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		<title>By: Tompage</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on draft position, and how I observed him being used, I think Deon Butler is a lock, assuming he can make it through the preseason. Deon Butler is a little guy, I look huge standing next to the guy (I am 6’1” and 190lbs). He needs to prove to me he can take NFL hits. If he survives the preseason, he will make the team. I don’t necessarily agree with this, but it is based on what I have seen. 

I think Forsett is a lock, again based on what I have seen. It looks like the coaches like Devin Moore (as I predicted going into camp), but he does not look ready for the NFL. He can run, but he is not a good enough blocker. I see Forsett being used as often as Duckett in the drills I have watched. I have seen Forsett run behind the #1 line regularly during practice.  

I think Obomanu is close to a lock. It looks like he and Deon Butler are our primary punt returners. Nate goes back to snag a few punts but he does not look like a primary punt return guy, and I wouldn’t like it if he was. We need Nate as a receiver, and we will put him back there in key situation, but not to catch every punt. I have also seen Obomanu on the kickoff return in the past. So you have the most polished receiver, and is also valuable on special teams, he looks pretty strong right now.  

I think they keep six wide receivers because many of them play special teams. I think Kent, Payne, Taylor, Bumpus, Hass, etc. are all playing for one spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on draft position, and how I observed him being used, I think Deon Butler is a lock, assuming he can make it through the preseason. Deon Butler is a little guy, I look huge standing next to the guy (I am 6’1” and 190lbs). He needs to prove to me he can take NFL hits. If he survives the preseason, he will make the team. I don’t necessarily agree with this, but it is based on what I have seen. </p>
<p>I think Forsett is a lock, again based on what I have seen. It looks like the coaches like Devin Moore (as I predicted going into camp), but he does not look ready for the NFL. He can run, but he is not a good enough blocker. I see Forsett being used as often as Duckett in the drills I have watched. I have seen Forsett run behind the #1 line regularly during practice.  </p>
<p>I think Obomanu is close to a lock. It looks like he and Deon Butler are our primary punt returners. Nate goes back to snag a few punts but he does not look like a primary punt return guy, and I wouldn’t like it if he was. We need Nate as a receiver, and we will put him back there in key situation, but not to catch every punt. I have also seen Obomanu on the kickoff return in the past. So you have the most polished receiver, and is also valuable on special teams, he looks pretty strong right now.  </p>
<p>I think they keep six wide receivers because many of them play special teams. I think Kent, Payne, Taylor, Bumpus, Hass, etc. are all playing for one spot.
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		<title>By: BobbyK</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fischer&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fischer&#8221;
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		<title>By: BobbyK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobbyK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO Butler is more of a lock than Branch, although I do think both are locks.  

RDE does seem to suit Kerney better.  My main knock on Kerney is that he isn&#039;t very good in the running game and you&#039;d really like to have a guy who is more stout at that position.  I think the big man, Redding, will do a better job overall at LDE thanks to his ability to stuff the run and Kerney will be fine at RDE.   

I know a lot of people were hard on Wistrom when he was here and the money he was making for being a below average pass rusher, but that guy could stuff the run from the RDE position.  I know 2 years ago was basically a trade off in signing Kerney and letting Grant go, and although I do think Kerney is better b/c of his pass rushing ability, we certainly did suffer when we lost Wistrom with respect to run defense.  Tubbs was great and IMO our most valuable defensive player in &#039;05, but he certainly had some good help on the DL with respect to run stuffing ability.  Fishcer was a solid run defender (better than his replacement, Kerney) too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO Butler is more of a lock than Branch, although I do think both are locks.  </p>
<p>RDE does seem to suit Kerney better.  My main knock on Kerney is that he isn&#8217;t very good in the running game and you&#8217;d really like to have a guy who is more stout at that position.  I think the big man, Redding, will do a better job overall at LDE thanks to his ability to stuff the run and Kerney will be fine at RDE.   </p>
<p>I know a lot of people were hard on Wistrom when he was here and the money he was making for being a below average pass rusher, but that guy could stuff the run from the RDE position.  I know 2 years ago was basically a trade off in signing Kerney and letting Grant go, and although I do think Kerney is better b/c of his pass rushing ability, we certainly did suffer when we lost Wistrom with respect to run defense.  Tubbs was great and IMO our most valuable defensive player in &#8217;05, but he certainly had some good help on the DL with respect to run stuffing ability.  Fishcer was a solid run defender (better than his replacement, Kerney) too.
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		<title>By: Dukeshire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dukeshire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MadSweeney42 - I don&#039;t know if you saw Wilson&#039;s exceptance speech on Saturday, but he referenced that story about the Seahawks being such a disaster there.  lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadSweeney42 &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if you saw Wilson&#8217;s exceptance speech on Saturday, but he referenced that story about the Seahawks being such a disaster there.  lol.
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		<title>By: twocolorcrayon</title>
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		<dc:creator>twocolorcrayon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha MadSweeney I just read that and logged in to talk about it.  Beat me to it.  I did not know that!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha MadSweeney I just read that and logged in to talk about it.  Beat me to it.  I did not know that!!
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		<title>By: MadSweeney42</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Wiki, while the Miami Seahawks were pretty unspectacular in every way, they had a pretty decent effect on the AFL and eventually the NFL.

&quot;The franchise was folded after the 1946 AAFC season. A new franchise was granted to Baltimore, Maryland for the 1947 season to keep the number of teams at 8. That team was named the Baltimore Colts via a fan contest, in honor of Maryland&#039;s rich history of racing and breeding horses.

In 1960, Ralph Wilson approached the city of Miami about a replacement team in the American Football League. He was turned down, largely because of the city&#039;s bad experience with the Seahawks, and instead put his team in Buffalo, New York, where it became the Buffalo Bills. Several years later, after the success of the AFL was assured, the city relented and allowed the Miami Dolphins to take root in the city.&quot;

So the Colts, Bills and Dolphins all were impacted by how bad those Seahawks were!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wiki, while the Miami Seahawks were pretty unspectacular in every way, they had a pretty decent effect on the AFL and eventually the NFL.</p>
<p>&#8220;The franchise was folded after the 1946 AAFC season. A new franchise was granted to Baltimore, Maryland for the 1947 season to keep the number of teams at 8. That team was named the Baltimore Colts via a fan contest, in honor of Maryland&#8217;s rich history of racing and breeding horses.</p>
<p>In 1960, Ralph Wilson approached the city of Miami about a replacement team in the American Football League. He was turned down, largely because of the city&#8217;s bad experience with the Seahawks, and instead put his team in Buffalo, New York, where it became the Buffalo Bills. Several years later, after the success of the AFL was assured, the city relented and allowed the Miami Dolphins to take root in the city.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the Colts, Bills and Dolphins all were impacted by how bad those Seahawks were!
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		<title>By: pdway</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>random tidbit from peter king&#039;s column this morning:

&quot;So the tireless Pete Fierle of the Hall&#039;s staff has set up a behind-the-scenes tour of the Hall for us with one of the Hall&#039;s archivists, Jason Aikens.  It&#039;s Nirvana. I held Johnny Unitas&#039; 1956 contract in my hands (he made $7,000 for the Colts before he was somebody, and his handwriting was exquisite). Hanging from one of the shelves is Pat Tillman&#039;s garment bag (Samsonite, I believe). Aikens opens up one drawer and pulls out a game program from 1946, from Paul Brown&#039;s first professional game -- the Cleveland Browns against the Miami Seahawks, an All-America Football Conference game. Leather helmets. Jim Thorpe&#039;s Carlisle Indians sweater. &quot;


Miami Seahawks?  Who here knew there was ever another pro football team called the Seahawks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>random tidbit from peter king&#8217;s column this morning:</p>
<p>&#8220;So the tireless Pete Fierle of the Hall&#8217;s staff has set up a behind-the-scenes tour of the Hall for us with one of the Hall&#8217;s archivists, Jason Aikens.  It&#8217;s Nirvana. I held Johnny Unitas&#8217; 1956 contract in my hands (he made $7,000 for the Colts before he was somebody, and his handwriting was exquisite). Hanging from one of the shelves is Pat Tillman&#8217;s garment bag (Samsonite, I believe). Aikens opens up one drawer and pulls out a game program from 1946, from Paul Brown&#8217;s first professional game &#8212; the Cleveland Browns against the Miami Seahawks, an All-America Football Conference game. Leather helmets. Jim Thorpe&#8217;s Carlisle Indians sweater. &#8221;</p>
<p>Miami Seahawks?  Who here knew there was ever another pro football team called the Seahawks?
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		<title>By: HawksKD</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are doing personal opinions I&#039;m sure mine is to change after the first preseason game. I&#039;m a bit of a lame duck and isolated on an island by myself in not thinking Butler is a lock. I don&#039;t think simply because we traded up in the the third round to grab him means that he is a lock. I think the coaches are gonna choose the WRs that have the best chance to help our team right now. Butler doesn&#039;t quite fit that description just yet. 

1. Burleson 2. Housh 3. Branch

Based on pure performance I think the next 2 have better chances than the rest: Obomanu and Kent. There are your 5.

The 6 spot, which I do believe will carry over to the season is going to be a very difficult selection. Taylor, Butler, and Payne closely nipping into that fold I believe is bumpus.

Everything changes however, when the lights come on and the person on the other side of the LOS  is in the game solely to stop you. There lies the extra confusion as Taylor and Kent have both proven to fall on their face in an embarrassing fashion. Payne, Bumpus, and Possibly Butler are all gamers. What a great battle this will be. I&#039;m excited for whoever makes the team and it will be a travesty for those that we end up losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are doing personal opinions I&#8217;m sure mine is to change after the first preseason game. I&#8217;m a bit of a lame duck and isolated on an island by myself in not thinking Butler is a lock. I don&#8217;t think simply because we traded up in the the third round to grab him means that he is a lock. I think the coaches are gonna choose the WRs that have the best chance to help our team right now. Butler doesn&#8217;t quite fit that description just yet. </p>
<p>1. Burleson 2. Housh 3. Branch</p>
<p>Based on pure performance I think the next 2 have better chances than the rest: Obomanu and Kent. There are your 5.</p>
<p>The 6 spot, which I do believe will carry over to the season is going to be a very difficult selection. Taylor, Butler, and Payne closely nipping into that fold I believe is bumpus.</p>
<p>Everything changes however, when the lights come on and the person on the other side of the LOS  is in the game solely to stop you. There lies the extra confusion as Taylor and Kent have both proven to fall on their face in an embarrassing fashion. Payne, Bumpus, and Possibly Butler are all gamers. What a great battle this will be. I&#8217;m excited for whoever makes the team and it will be a travesty for those that we end up losing.
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		<title>By: Dukeshire</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it has more to do with matching him up with fewer double teams so he can better rush the passer.  Matching him up against LT should do that.  Redding is much bulkier and should be able to handle doubles more effectively.  I think it has more to do with matching players up to their strengths.  Any ancillary benefits are a plus, as I understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it has more to do with matching him up with fewer double teams so he can better rush the passer.  Matching him up against LT should do that.  Redding is much bulkier and should be able to handle doubles more effectively.  I think it has more to do with matching players up to their strengths.  Any ancillary benefits are a plus, as I understand it.
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		<title>By: BobbyK</title>
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		<description>Does anyone know what Payne has been doing on ST this season?   And, if so, how he has looked?  I remember the opener at Buffalo last season and he looked pretty brutal on punt return coverage.  

A reason I think Payne will be the #5 is because he&#039;s more of the Ruskell guy as far as being an overachiever (even though I just said he sucked on ST last year and in the previous post said ST play may be big in who the #5 WR is).  I&#039;ve been known to be wrong my fair share of times and probably am here but you never know.  

Since I was out of it for awhile, maybe this was discussed a few weeks ago?  Kerney moving to RDE.  Do any of you know if this switch had anything to do with his shoulder?  Sometimes certain body parts can be better protected with certain angles.  I don&#039;t know, I am just wondering if anyone has heard anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what Payne has been doing on ST this season?   And, if so, how he has looked?  I remember the opener at Buffalo last season and he looked pretty brutal on punt return coverage.  </p>
<p>A reason I think Payne will be the #5 is because he&#8217;s more of the Ruskell guy as far as being an overachiever (even though I just said he sucked on ST last year and in the previous post said ST play may be big in who the #5 WR is).  I&#8217;ve been known to be wrong my fair share of times and probably am here but you never know.  </p>
<p>Since I was out of it for awhile, maybe this was discussed a few weeks ago?  Kerney moving to RDE.  Do any of you know if this switch had anything to do with his shoulder?  Sometimes certain body parts can be better protected with certain angles.  I don&#8217;t know, I am just wondering if anyone has heard anything.
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