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Hawks not ready for prime time: No nationally televised games

Post by Eric Williams on April 14, 2009 at 4:42 pm with 50 Comments »
April 14, 2009 4:42 pm

Here are some quick thoughts on Seattle’s 2009 schedule.

Seattle opens up with four of six games at home, including St. Louis, Chicago, Jacksonville and Arizona.



Seattle head coach Jim Mora had to like that debuting as Seattle’s head coach in 2009.


Seattle’s bye week comes in week 7, which should work out better after having the bye week in the fourth week of the season last year, although last season the Seahawks needed to regroup early in the season.



The bye week coming later in the year should serve the team well.


Seattle plays three straight on the road in weeks 10 through 12, facing Arizona, Minnesota and St. Louis in consecutive weeks.


The Seahawks have no prime time games, including no Monday night or Thursday night games on the schedule, so it appears Seattle is getting no love nationally.


However, Seattle only has one game in the Eastern time zone, at Indianapolis Sunday, Oct. 4.


Seattle also will have to play a cold-weather game, traveling to Green Bay to take on the Packers on Sunday, December 27.


Here’s the full schedule. You can also view Seattle and the rest of the NFL team’s schedules at NFL.com here.


Sunday, Sept. 13, Seattle vs. St. Louis, 1:15 p.m. FOX


Comment: The two cellar dwellers in the NFC West, both the Rams and the Seahawks have new coaches and are looking to right the ship. Seattle swept St. Louis last season, and holds a 12-9 edge over the Rams.


Sunday, Sept. 20, Seattle at San Francisco, 1:05 p.m. FOX



Comment:
The Seahawks have won five of their last six in San Francisco.


Sunday, Sept. 27, Seattle vs. Chicago, 1:05 p.m. FOX


Comment: Seattle is 7-3 against the Bears. The two teams last played during the regular season in November 2007 in Seattle, a 30-23 win by the Seahawks. Seattle will get its first opportunity to face Jake Cutler in a Chicago uniform.


Sunday, Oct. 4, Seattle at Indianapolis, 10 a.m. FOX

Comment: The Seahawks only game in the Eastern time zone. Seattle finished 0-4 in games in the Eastern time zone last season. The Seahawks last met the Colts in December 2005, a 28-13 win for the Seahawks. The Colts have a 5-4 edge over Seattle in regular season games.


Sunday, Oct. 11, Seattle vs. Jacksonville, 1:15 p.m. CBS

Comment: Seattle is 3-2 against the Jaguars, last facing Jacksonville in September 2005, a 26-14 loss in Jacksonville.


Sunday, Oct. 18, Seattle vs. Arizona, 1:05 p.m. FOX

Comment: Seattle meets the NFC West Champion-Cardinals at home. Arizona swept the season series last season, so the Seahawks will be looking to turn things around against the Super Bowl runner-up. The Cardinals lead the series 11-9.



Sunday, Oct. 25: BYE (Week 7)


Sunday, Nov. 1, Seattle at Dallas, 10 a.m. FOX

Comment: The Seahawks got drubbed here in last year’s Thanksgiving Day game, 34-9, but now get to play in the newly completed Texas Stadium. Dallas holds a 7-4 edge in regular-season meetings.



Sunday, Nov. 8, Seattle vs. Detroit, 1:05 p.m. FOX

Comment: Seattle is 6-4 against the Lions, last facing Detroit in September of 2006, a 9-6 win in Detroit. This game marks the return of ex-Seahawks linebacker Julian Peterson to Seattle.


Sunday, Nov. 15, Seattle at Arizona, 1:15 p.m. FOX

Comment: The Seahawks haven’t won in Arizona since 2005.


Sunday, Nov. 22, Seattle at Minnesota, 10 a.m. FOX

Comment: The Seahawks last faced the Vikings in October 2006 at home, a 31-13 loss in Seattle. Seattle holds a 6-4 edge in regular season contests.


Sunday, Nov. 29, Seattle at St. Louis, 10 a.m. Fox

Comment: Seattle is 5-5 in St. Louis.


Sunday, Dec. 6, Seattle vs. San Francisco, 1:15 p.m. FOX

Comment: The two teams split the season series last season, with the Niners winning at Qwest Field and Seattle winning in San Francisco. The Seahawks hold a 11-9 advantage in the series.



Sunday, Dec. 13, Seattle at Houston, 10 a.m. FOX

Comment: This is the first meeting between the two teams since October 2005, a 42-10 win for the Seahawks in Seattle. It’s also the first trip for Seattle to Houston since 1994, when the Houston Oilers were there, who are now of course the Tennessee Titans.



Sunday, Dec. 20, Seattle vs. Tampa Bay, 1:15 p.m. FOX

Comment: The Seahawks are 7-2 against the Bucs, losing 20-10 to Tampa Bay last season in Tampa Bay. The game will mark the return of ex-Seahawk Jerramy Stevens to Seattle.


Sunday, Dec. 27, Seattle at Green Bay, 10 a.m. FOX

Comment: The Seahawks lost to the Packers in Seattle last season, 27-17. The two teams last met in the 2007 playoffs, a 42-20 loss for Seattle in Green Bay. The Packers hold a 6-5 edge in the regular-season series.


Sunday, Jan. 3, Seattle vs. Tennessee, 1:15 p.m. CBS

Comment: Seattle is 9-4 against the Titans. The Seahawks last played Tennessee in December 2005, a 28-24 win for the Seattle in Nashville.

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  1. JMSeaTown says:

    ridiculious. 2nd year in a row with no MNF. Maybe we’ll ge love during flex week..

  2. JMSeaTown says:

    ridiculous. No MNF for the 2nd straight year. Maybe we’ll get some love during flex week…

  3. JazBadAzz says:

    we could sneak up on alot of teams with this type of schedule… i love it!

  4. I don’t think we could have asked for much better. A good schedule to kick off the season and get us going in the right direction. Hopefully we’ll have a lot of momentum going into the bye week. The second half is a lot tougher in terms of road games and teams. If we can carry the mo into Green Bay and come out with a good attitude (even if we lose) that should set the stage for the remainder of the season. Injuries aside, if we get the o-line shored up we could end up 11-5, maybe even 12-4.

  5. nighthawk2 says:

    Eric, that 3 in a row should read Arizona, Minnesota and St. Louis for weeks 10-12.

  6. As a fan, I wish we’d be on Mondaynight once or twice.

    As a fan who wants what’s best for the team, I’m glad we don’t have any short work weeks like that.

  7. sometimes its good not to have a mnf or snf game….keep the same practice schedule…noeast coast trips….well one…nice

  8. If we do play well — you can expect that we’ll get one of those Sundaynight flex games. So we will still probably end up with at least 1 prime time game.

  9. PhilKenSebben says:

    I love this schedule. no stupid night games and we open at home against the effing Rams.

  10. nighthawk2 says:

    Considering our history after the bye week, I’d preter a home game instead of going to Dallas.

  11. emitch423 says:

    I was happy the MLS Cup was coming to Qwest until I saw the schedule. NFL.com said the reason we have three road games in a row is because of the game on Nov. 22 kicks the Seahawks to the road. Other than that, and the Green Bay game on Dec. 27, I like the home-away patten. The ahwks had a home-away-home-away pattern during 2005, and we all know how that worked for them.

    I’m just glad to see it set in stone so plans can be made.

    As far as the lack of primetime, who cares? Seattle will never be a media darling and coming on a 4-12 season, you don’t deserve to be in prime time. Detroit, St. Louis and Kansas City were all left off the primetime schedule and they had worse records than Seattle. The bottom line is the primetime schedule is reserved for good, quality, entertaining teams and Seattle was not that last year.

  12. hawks4372 says:

    Are people really asking why the NFL won’t give a 4-12 team with zero exciting players a nationally televised game? Take the homer hats off for just a second, would ya?

  13. Win games and then you will get national coverage

  14. TOUCHmeDOWNthere says:

    we’ll get our primetime games in january… and with this schedule, looks like they might even be played at home…

  15. Dukeshire says:

    Exactly, they may still get a Sunday night game. Last year they were scheduled to play the Pats on Sunday night when it came out. So if they have a good season they may get “flexed” into it.

  16. freedom_X says:

    I wonder why Cleveland rates 2 national games though? Cinncinatti, which had a better record, didn’t get any primetime games either, and Oakland and the Jags, just 1. I would think, among putrid teams, Oakland has more of a national following than Cleveland.

  17. snydro22 says:

    GRIFFEY!

    Huge win for the M’s! Did anyone not have goosebumps when The Kid was introduced?

    This state suffered a lot last year, all the way around.. But things are changing, boys.. Look for it to rub off on the Hawks.. Jump on the bandwagon now, because this is OUR year..

    You had a nice run, Warner, but you couldn’t capitalize.. Our revamped defense will have you placed on IR early. We are going to crush you. We are going to absolutely destroy the Cardinals this year.

    Super Bowl or bust. Under the radar, over the radar, it doesn’t matter..

  18. goneshootin says:

    No prime time games? Good! The only people who want them are those who don’t go to the games. Sunday Night home games suck for us season ticket holders. Thursday Nights’ are worse. And Monday Nights the absolute worst.

    No, the problem with schedule are all the 10 AM starts.

    It’s ridiculous that the NFL continues to allow these for the West Coast teams. It’s a competitive imbalance as East Coast teams aren’t “penalized” by their body clocks when coming out West to play.

    Thinking I’m just a whiner? Go check the recent years stats on how West Coast teams do going East in 10 AM starts.

    Over the past 2 years, they’re a combined 10-40+ on the road in 10 am starts.

    So, basically an Eastern team has a 75%+ chance, on average, of winning, when playing a West Coast team in a 10 AM start.

  19. Anniee882000 says:

    I actually cried when Griffey was introduced. And what an ending!!

    Anyway, I like the schedule. As my optimistic self, I have us going 12-4. (Don’t rain
    on my parade.)

  20. Pacman33 says:

    I can’t complain. Only 1 game in the Eastern time zone this year compared to 4 games last year

  21. goneshootin says:

    Pacman – It’s not the Eastern Time Zone. It’s the 10 AM starts. Check how many there are. THAT IS the Eastern Time zone in terms of start time slotting.

    And, you should complain with 6 10 AM games. We’ll be lucky to go 2-4 in those, if history is any indicator.

  22. I don’t like those 10 a.m. games either, but I do like the fact that there are less miles being traveled this upcoming season. Perhaps a team like Houston will surprise this season and our game there will get flexed and at least that could eliminate one of the 10 a.m. starts. Neither team is a sexy pick for a prime time game, but if they are both playing well, you never know (they do
    have talent, like us, to surprise)…

  23. GardnerHawksFan says:

    Thanks for picking up on the 10 AM games (goneshootin & Bobby K) – I have noticed several writers say that we only have 1 game in the Eastern time zone – which is technically true. However we have 6 games that start at 10 AM pacific time. So they may start at 12 PM in the time zone they are being played, but nonetheless they are starting at 10 AM pacific time. I know we are whining – because good teams win there games regardless. But there was study done by Stanford that showed that West coast teams playing in the earlier game slot had a much worst record than the east coast teams playing in the West. It compared many seasons (so when many west coast teams had playoff contending seasons) and showed the imbalance being significant.

    I also believe it does not matter that we do not get nationally telivised games. Thursday night games are not really an honor on the NFL network, and we do not deserve it after the season we had last year. If we win we will get noticed and I do not care about “national recognition”, when we win SB we will get it. Go HAWKS – and Go Mariners!

  24. goneshootin says:

    GardnerHawksFan – You’re welcome.

    A simple fix is this: The latest West Coast teams start at home is 1 PM (unless is a Sunday or Monday game)

    Yet, the earliest the East Coast teams start is 1 PM.

    It only makes sense, then, that West Coast teams going east should play the 4 PM game, which would be 1 PM on the West Coast.

    Then, Eastern and Central Time Zone teams could play the 4 PM EST game, or the 1 PM, once the West Coast teams have been scheduled.

    It’s the only “fair” way to do it and makes it so the body “clock” isn’t askew.

    And again, this isn’t just a homer Seahawk fan whining. Go check the stats… it’s an OVERWHELMING advantage to the home team in these games…

    And the Hawks have 6 of their 8 away games starting at 10 AM.

  25. Eric Williams says:

    Hey folks, can we ease up on the language here. I’ve had to clean up several posts today. The conversation is fine, but otherwise we could do without the language.

    Easing up on the personal attacks also would be a plus.

  26. I also think the frequecy of West Coast teams starting at 10 a.m. is B.S.
    It seems with the Seahawks it is only an issue in the Eastern time zone. The last time the Hawks lost a 10 a.m. start that wasn’t played in the Eastern time zone was during the 2006 season.

  27. Total outrage. Kicked in the teeth by the NFL yet again.

  28. bigmike04 says:

    who want to listen to bad annoucing on MNF, now Sunday night football is where it with john madden and his partner al michaels.

  29. goneshootin says:

    And the Cardinals do NOT HAVE ONE 10 AM start. All 1 PM, or later.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80fb2e1d&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

    Bull$h!t

  30. goneshootin says:

    My bad… those times are Eastern times. I just figured they’d put them Pacific since Arizona is in the Pacific Time Zone minus Daylight savings.

  31. hawkforever21 says:

    “Are people really asking why the NFL won’t give a 4-12 team with zero exciting players a nationally televised game? Take the homer hats off for just a second, would ya?”

    I guess this is a pretty good point here that hawks4372 has. As much as I love the Hawks……they’re one of those teams that doesn’t really have anyone that sticks out. They have a lot of solid players…..but no one player that is a standout other than Big Walt….and he’s an OT that’s getting old and injured.

    Matt, Branch, Housh, Carlson, JJones, Tatupu, Hill, Kerney, Trufant, etc., etc.

    All solid…..but no “prime time” players. That’s why it would be nice to get one in the draft……but they still should have as solid a team overall as anyone else post-draft. We’ll see.

  32. Dukeshire says:

    “This state suffered a lot last year, all the way around.. But things are changing, boys.. Look for it to rub off on the Hawks.. Jump on the bandwagon now, because this is OUR year..”
    …what have you done with Snydro?

  33. Duke – made it through the day w/o mentioning those two. Gonna try for 2 days in a
    row, but that last comment about needing a “prime time” player almost had me mention
    you-know-who for us to draft.

    I was obviously wrong, but I thought there was some agreement with the leage that
    every team, no matter how bad, got at least 1 nationally televised game. Oh well, I
    pretty much like our schedule and, again, I still think we’re going to have a great year
    and that means we’ll probably get a good road flex game.

  34. Dukeshire says:

    Congratulations, that couldn’t have been easy. And you’re right about the flex schedule. You never know how the season will play out 6, 7 months down the road, what games will actually carry additional weight, etc.

    We better be careful, too many posts today and we may have our jobs threatened.

  35. Soooo Glad NO STINKING THURSDAY NIGHT GAMES!!! or even MNF. I have to travel several hours to go to the games and it sucks. + with our last years record bottom line is we don’t deserve any prime time games. I don’t like the cluster of home then away games, but it is what it is. As for 10 am starts Winners Win, Loosers Loose. Time Schmime it’s just an excuse Loosers use when they can’t win. Wake up strap em on Kick their butts go home happy, sleep on the plane.
    As for Stand out players. They only become “stand outs” when the nation can see them
    and the announcers basically promote them. Of course there are a few standouts no matter what, but so many players become stand outs only after the national media give them a push.

  36. ChrisHolmes says:

    I like the schedule. It certainly seems reasonable on paper. Biggest win, I think, is the lack of East Coast games.

  37. The lack of east games is not really a big win, because it is part of the scheduling rotation. Next year we’re going to play the NFC South and AFC West. The bad part is we have the max 10am scheduled games and the 3 road games from weeks 10-12.

  38. it would have been nice to watch our boys on national tv at least once this season, especially since i am on the East Coast, but i’ll catch all the games at the local sports pub anyway. and with the looks of this schedule, it’s “Hello Playoffs!” in my opinion.

    GO SEAHAWKS!

  39. yankinta says:

    I don’t mind not being on MNF or SNF. It means more games for me to watch since I plan to watch all the Hawks games locally anyway. Now I have more free game options.

  40. BORNHAWK says:

    I am really tired of hearing the national media say ww are a really bad team, we have one bad season out of the last 6 and they want to act like we are rebuilding and that we have sucked like the Lions or something, give me a break.

  41. BORNHAWK says:

    We will never get the credit we deserve because they say we play in a weak division, if I remember right we play other teams outside of our division and up until last year we had very good success against them. I fell like Rodney Dangerfeild here.

  42. Palerydr says:

    You guys are all not recognizing the fact WE have a distinct home field advantage here in the NW. the key to this season as well as every other season is to win all of our home games. That obviously =8 wins go .500 on the road = 12-4 div winner so even if we go 2-6 this year with all the east coast starts we still should win the div as long as the 2 wins are against div opponents. I am a season ticket holder and it gets deafening in there. You can see it really does effect the other teams. Duke and Bobby keep up the posts who cares what some crass blowhole says he sits behind the safety of his keyboard and posts negative comments ad naseum. My thought is to completly ignore anything he says cuz all he wants is the attention I know I will.

  43. vichawkfan says:

    NFL Network last night breaking down the NFC West schedule. Basically giving Cards the division with SF challenging. Finally Mooch said something about “watch out for Hasselbeck” as they faded to commercial. JOKE!
    Not since 83 have we been without a national game.

  44. Dukeshire says:

    In ’07 they were 5-5 and in ’06 they were 6-4 outside the division. And it’s not just the division that keeps Seattle from national attention. It’s was like this when they were in the AFC West, too. It ‘s all about location and Seattle’s tucked away up here, it just doesn’t attract the national spotlight on a consistent basis. The majority of the national media (ESPN chief among them) really only covers 6 or 7 teams anyway, and they beat them over our heads year story after story, year after year. It’s just awful.

  45. Dukeshire says:

    BORNHAWK – Nice to see you have calmed down, a bit.

  46. Dukeshire says:

    BORNHAWK – Oh man, I’m sorry. I was confusing you with someone else.

  47. I like the whole home away in order as against having 3 or more home stands or away trips. That said the schedules and the teams we meet makes for an enticing schedule. Might even squeak in two road trips!

    On flex schedule we will not get a MNF game we might get moved to a Sunday night game but that is as far as it goes.

    One other note our record against the NFC East over the past few years has been overwhelmingly in our favor. last year was a blip that we will all move on from.

  48. nighthawk2 says:

    I’m going to curb the April enthusiasm until after the draft, after the mini-camps, after training camp and after pre-season. By then we’ll know who’s going to be on the roster, whether Walter Jones’ knee is likely to hold up or not, what holes have been filled, and who’s on IR and will miss the season (who know someone will be).

    I’m inclined to agree with Pacman33 and MauMau that the 10am start time whining is a crutch, an excuse for an inability to win on the road. Same is true with the whining the east coast teams did about back to back west coast trips last year. Difference is the eastern teams obviously have more clout because the league stepped in to “fix their problem”.

    As for the no prime time games, I think it sucks because Seahawk fans outside the PNW can only see the Hawks when they’re on national TV unless they pay out for Sunday packages. I don’t see why teams like Cleveland and Oakland got them though. Perhaps it’s not just lack of star power names among players, KZOK’s morning crew suggested it was the cost of not having MIke Holmgren as head coach anymore either. I don’t know whether that’s true or not. BORNHAWK you’ll love this, ESPN this morning, Merrill Hoge talking about “will Detroit win a game this year” had a list of five games he thought their best chances were, and one was here.

  49. Dukeshire says:

    No because of that, but Merrill Hoge is terrible. Unwatchable on NFL Live.

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