Comments on: Will QB Stafford be available for Hawks?

By: itscarlstime247

itscarlstime247 — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:37:47 +0000

Why do people think that Sanchez would fit better in the Seattle’s offense than Stafford? Stafford played a system very similar to the one that Knapp runs, especially in the passing game. It was very similar in that it was a precision and timing offense in that they spread the field horizontally. Only, they ran more shotgun formations that Knapp typically tends to run, nevermind his days in Atlanta where the shotgun was called primarily because Vick was their quarterback.

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By: klm008

klm008 — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:36:51 +0000

If DET picks J.Smith, Hawks pick Stafford. If DET picks Stafford, Hawks pick Curry.

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By: RichmondHawk

RichmondHawk — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:38:08 +0000

Seattle’s QB Lazor watched Freeman workout now apprently he’s coming to visit Seattle, they’ve also had varied interests in Sanchez and Stafford. I’d like to believe all BPA reports but its apparent Seattle is targeting a QB.

Look for Seattle to pick Stafford or try to trade up or down for Freeman or Sanchez.

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By: hawks4372

hawks4372 — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:32:37 +0000

Graham Harrell. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaa! Colt Brennan and Jason White think that would be a fantastic pick.

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By: CamanoIslandJQ

CamanoIslandJQ — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:55:07 +0000

Yes Stafford is a Junior. His first year (part-time) was 2006 when he was 135 comp in 256 attmps. for 1749 yards, 7-TD’s, 13-Int and a 108.99 QB rating. He did however improve considerably as a starter in 2007 & 2008.
Graham Harrell as a freshman in 2005 (part-time) was 37 comp. in 55 attmps. for 422 yards, 3-TD’s, 0 int. and a 149.73 QR rating. So for comparison purposes we are looking at 3.1 years for Harrell and 2.5+ years for Stafford.
However: Note the numbers for Harrell are nearly DOUBLE those of Stafford. That is the point I was trying to make. System QB or not that is a lot of chucking the ball. I think Harrell is worth a strong look with a mid to late round pick as a project QB behind Matt H. for a year or two. Did you see Texas Tech’s win over Texas this year? Just because Greene was a bust doesn’t mean this kid will be.

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By: klm008

klm008 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:09:19 +0000

Stafford is a Jr, so he doesn’t have 4 yrs stats.

’06 07 TDs 13 Ints 13 Sacks
’07 19 TDs 10 Ints 15 Sacks
’08 25 TDs 10 Ints 17 Sacks

“Stafford displays excellent arm strength. He is nimble moving around for a player his size, but is best throwing from the pocket than on the move. He could have used another year to work on improving his accuracy on underneath and crossing patterns and will never be a threat with his feet. Can be overconfident in his superb arm strength, but he can make all the throws and when he steps up in the pocket, a team that loves the vertical passing game could find the kind of success that Atlanta and Baltimore experienced with rookie quarterbacks in 2008.”

Hawks haven’t been a vertical passing team for awhile, don’t really have the personnel or coaching staff for it. Long passes are lower in completion percentage than the typical underneath and crossing patterns of the WCO.

“Ranks third in school history by completing 564-of-987 passes, topped by Eric Zeier (838-of-1,402; 1991-94) and David Greene (849-1,440; 2001-04)”

I’m glad TR didn’t take Greene with a #4. I would be happier if he didn’t take Stafford with a #4.

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By: CamanoIslandJQ

CamanoIslandJQ — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:23:39 +0000

I think if Stafford, or to a slightly lesser degree, Sanchez is available at #4 a trade with a QB hungry team is possible, what we could get in return is open to debate. I would hope at the very least we could switch first round positions with the trade team and pick up one or more second to fourth round picks which would accomplish draft depth for the Seahawks. As to QB’s to consider, I offer the following stats obtained from ESPN.com on two of the QB’s in this draft.
(1) MATTHEW STAFFORD;
CAREER #’s from 2006-2008;
564-compl. / 987-att. / 7731-yds. / 57.14-compl. %/ 13.7-yds-per compl. / 51-TD’s. / 33-INT. / 44-sacks / 130.48-Avg. QB rating.
2008- #’s: 235-compl. / 383-att. / 3459-yds. / 61.35-compl. %/ 14.7-yds-per compl. / 25-TD’s / 10-INT. / 17 sacks / 153.54-QB rating.
(2) GRAHAM HARRELL:
CAREER #’s from 2005-2008;
1403-compl. / 2010-att. / 15,793-yds. / 69.8-compl.% / 11.25-yds-per compl. / 134-TD’s. / 34-INT. / 51-sacks / 153.25-Avg. QB rating.
2008- #’s: 442-compl. / 626-att. / 5,111-yds. / 70.6-compl.% / 11.56-yds-per compl. / 45-TD’s / 9-INT. / 14 sacks / 160.04-Avg. QB rating.
As pure stats go these #’s are stagering & would seem to indicate Harrell should receive some significate draft consideration by the Seahawks. The most common industry knock on him is that he is a system QB that primarily ran the spread formation and that his total yards are inflated due to after the catch yards.
Here is a quote from his coach:
3/19/2009 – Texas Tech coach Mike Leach insists his quarterback is the best in the NFL draft. I know what you’re thinking, asking a coach about his players is like asking a parent about their children, of course they are going to exaggerate, but Leach’s comments directed toward NFL scouts and coaches was simply too amusing not to share. March 17, Dallas Morning News: Leach, who scoffs at the system-quarterback label, angrily talked about NFL teams’ concern regarding Harrell’s ability to work from under center. "You bring up easily the most pitiful NFL cop-out of all," Leach said in a telephone interview. "And you can send that message to the whole NFL. Any coach who has ever said or uttered those words or considers that a concern, here’s my message for them: How could you possibly look yourself in the mirror and consider yourself an NFL coach and not be able to teach a guy to run back three steps, five steps and seven steps? I can teach a child that! “Any coach in the NFL who can’t do that ought to be fired!"
It would seem to me that this kid does indeed have some talent and should be well worth a shot with the Seahawks and he should most likely be available mid to late draft. With Matt H. around to tutor him, he could have the potential to be great and eventually Matt’s replacement. Maybe under Knapp, a spread offense wouldn’t be a bad system?

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By: ryanryan

ryanryan — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:29:47 +0000

I agree with duke…

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By: Osiris33

Osiris33 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:07:08 +0000

Not a QB @ #4? How can you say that? The Seahawks need one, desperately IMO, and we’ll discover that about week 6 when Matt goes down again. He’s degenerating. And how often does a decent team with a decent roster get lucky enough to draft a franchise QB this high?

Stafford, Sanchez, either way. They will both be as least as good as Matt, as long as they are not rushed into it too soon. Sanchez’ lack of starts is a concern, but he’s been in a pro system for several years, is extremely cerebral and loves the game. If I was “Timmay!” I’d be taking either one at #4.

Also, I met Pete Carrol recently through a friend of a friend, and he said Sanchez will be better than Carson Palmer when it is all said and done. So think of it this way; would you take Carson Palmer with the #4 pick right now? I would.

That said, I am really warming to Michael Crabtree again. More and more scouts think he is a sure thing, and his injury concerns seem to be fading. The Eagles are said to be in lust with him, and I guess if they offered the right package (#21 and #28, + a 2nd and a 6th is how the points add up), it might be worth it to consider a trade down. But with 10 draft picks now and no glaring needs (thanks T-Ho), it might be time to target specific players for quality purposes over quantity. They could then use some of those picks to move back up into the 9-10-11 range and get Sanchez there if they so chose.

On the other hand, turning over the roster on a 4-12 team is never a bad plan, and 10 picks (13 if you count the Eagles package) can help you do that.

My guess is the Seahawks will start to focus more and more on Crabtree in an effort to see what they can shake loose from other teams. But if Stafford is there you gotta take him.

And you’ll all rip me, but I’d be just as happy if they signed Rex Grossman to be the QB of the future. He’s still young, he’s led his team to a Super Bowl and he’s never been properly coached up in Chicago, IMO. You could probably get him in a 2-3 year deal for $3 million per year, with a promise he gets a shot at the starting job after this season. And it would be nice to have a QB that can throw an accurate deep ball for a change, especially if we get MC. Granted, I’m biased because I played blackjack with the guy at the Palms and he was really cool, but he certainly has the physical talent you want at the position.

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By: JacDG

JacDG — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:24:48 +0000

Try to put Crabtree in ou system, i do not think that is good, the guy don’t know how to run routes, i like him but again we thought he was at leat 6’2 or 6’3 he is 6’1 and he is not a blazer nor a route runner.
It really bugs me that Minnesota got Rosenfels i hoped they’d trade up to get a stafford or sanchez.
but you left out my personal favorite scenario: We trade our #4 for Philly’s #21 and #28…and we pick Moreno, Mack and Unger with our first 3 picks:)
I was thinking the exact same thing! or at leat move around a bit so we could get Moreno + an O lineman (maybe Oher?) then mack or unger + a C or S in the 2nd that would be a dream scenario!

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