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Houshmandzadeh a Seahawk

Post by Eric Williams on March 2, 2009 at 2:45 pm with 156 Comments »
March 2, 2009 2:45 pm

Multiple news sources are reporting that the Seattle Seahawks have signed free agent T.J. Houshmandzadeh to a multi-year deal.


Houshmandzadeh reportedly is in Seattle, presumably to sign the contract. Adam Schefter of NFL.com reports the deal is five years for $40, with $15 million guaranteed.


Seattle, who signed defensive tackle Colin Cole to a five-year, $21.4 million deal on Sunday, now adds a veteran receiver to a group that struggled with injuries last season. The Seahawks had nine different starters and used 11 different receivers in the 2008 season.


Houshmandzadeh, 31, is known for his consistency. During his five years as a starter in Cincinnati, he averaged 89 receptions, over a thousand yards and seven touchdowns a season.

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  1. BORNHAWK says:

    yesssssssssssssssssssssss

  2. the3mitchells says:

    noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    toooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    oooooooooooooooooooooooold

  3. If true, this sets the table for the Hawks to draft their OT of the future.

  4. Told you so! i knew it before Eric (maybe, maybe not) ;D

  5. Ruskell bashers, don’t get your panties in a bunch about the $$. It’s all figured into the big picture and there’s obviously more going on behind the scenes than us common folk will ever know.

    I love the move.

    We all know how Tim/our FO addresses an area of need, we may see Crabtree coming out west as well.

    Position of weakness… now a position of strength.

    If Hass’ back holds up, he just may end up with the comeback player of the year award for ’09.

    GO SEAHAWKS!!

  6. redneckhawk says:

    I’ll believe it when I see it…with all the rumors you would think we were trying to sign Peyton or Ed Reed

  7. Welcome TJ Houshyamomma :)
    Oh man, I’m going to have fun with that name!

  8. redneckhawk says:

    and just like that, the link is gone

  9. ESPN just reported that Housh signed a contract with the Seahawks!

  10. BenderHawkFan says:

    If its true, I’m excited to have a reliable WR. I hope he stays healthy. Will we cut Branch or keep him for depth?

  11. Confirmed…ESPN lead Sportscenter with the news.

  12. edstang45 says:

    ESPN.com is also saying according to sources Houshyomomma is headeing to Seattle …….”Championship”

  13. ProblemSolved says:

    Why do people care how the money is spent as long as there is some to spend? It isn’t your money and it’s not like they don’t know what they’re doing, like us at the end of a pay cycle. Like a GM is sitting there signing TJ and then forgets to save for Willis. Like, “Oh crap! We forgot Willis!!!!’

  14. SeatownHustler says:

    This is the best thing Ruskell has pulled off. I’ve got to give it to him.

  15. You say HoushmanZAADA I say Houshmanzaada
    But people quit with the hoosyourmama stuff if he’s a hawk gotta learn the name or just say HOOSH at the game when he catches everything

  16. bigsmooth says:

    No doubt. Why worry so much about money that isn’t yours? You think these guys would willingly handcuff the franchise. One thing I know about the NFL is that contracts can be manipulated and shaped in many creative ways. More importantly, the Hawks just picked up a rock of a receiver. Reliable, sure-handed, tough. Great sign.

  17. From KFFL

    Seahawks | Houshmandzadeh agrees to terms
    Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:00:23 -0800

    John Clayton, of ESPN, reports the Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms with unrestricted free-agent WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh (Bengals). Terms of the contract were not disclosed.

  18. Dukeshire says:

    5 years 40 million. On a sad note, this all but seals Bobby Engram’s fate as a Seahawk.

  19. TJ contract: 5 years 40mil (15 guarenteed) DO NOT FLOP!!!

  20. hawkforever21 says:

    Well we’ll have to see how much of the money is guaranteed before we know what we really paid to get TJ.

    I do like the move…..again, it gives us more options during the draft.

    He may not be able to stretch the field like some other receivers, but that’s not Matt’s game anyways…….so we get a solid receiver with great hands.

    So we’ve got our big DT, and our big(ger) name receiver.

    Now we can look towards OL, DB, and perhaps DE during the draft.

  21. Damn you Dukeshire, you just beat me with that one!

  22. Dukeshire says:

    bigsmooth – There’s such a thing a a salary cap, that’s why. Mismanaging it can cripple a franchise for years. And before you give us the “no cap next year nonsense”, it won’t be a free for all. There are rules in place and the cap will return when the new CBA is settled. Yes, the money matters.

  23. redneckhawk says:

    Suck it Minnesota!!

  24. Drillslinger says:

    I’m not 100% sold yet (and I won’t be until the Divisional round of the playoffs, lol) but I LOVE the flexibility it gives the Hawks in April! No “need” to take a chance on Crabtrees fooot if it doesn’t look 100%, etc. etc.

  25. Dukeshire says:

    Bobby Engram is / was a GREAT Seahawk. If he is in fact gone, I wish him the best and I hope someone gives him another year or two. He can still play.

    I just heard the Pat have 4 of the first 58 picks this year. They way they choose players, they are going to continue to be great for years to come. Good grief.

  26. hawkforever21 says:

    5-year, 40 million with 15 million guaranteed……hmmmm, so that’s probably back loaded as far as yearly salary. So it’s probably more like a 3-year 21 million dollar contract. Just guessing.

  27. ksigsmith says:

    Thats great we got TJ but whats the deal with getting a safety to replace that waste of space Russell. Sharper is out there and R. Williams is available for trade supposedly.

    We needed a receiver but I dont want to see another season with Russell.

  28. clwallace says:

    Hasmazilly HE77 Yeah

  29. turboskylinegtr says:

    Well then. OT in the first round. Hopefully we can get alex mack (played center but can play equally well at guard) and pat white (think about the possibilities of him and seneca wallace behind center in a shotgun/wildcat, not to mention mora/knapps experience w/ vick)

    It will be interesting to see if branch gets released, since ruskell brought him in. i suppose its not far-fetched since branch was brought in as an emergency move to elevate us during out ‘window of opportunity’.

  30. Dukeshire says:

    The pieces are falling into place. Very nice. Resign Willis, and draft Smith / Oher in the first and Chung (if he’s still there) in the second.

  31. IdahoHawk says:

    I THINK IT WAS A GOOD MOVE FOR THE HAWKS… NOW IF SEATTLE PLAYS CINCY WE DON’T HAVE TO WATCH ANY MORE 100+ YARD GAMES FROM T.J. (GOD PLEASE KEEP THEM HEALTHY) I CANT DO ANOTHER 2008 SEASON

  32. nighthawk2 says:

    “Why do people care how the money is spent as long as there is some to spend? It isn’t your money and it’s not like they don’t know what they’re doing, like us at the end of a pay cycle. Like a GM is sitting there signing TJ and then forgets to save for Willis. Like, “Oh crap! We forgot Willis!!!!'”

    Dude you should really wait until you have a triple digit IQ before you post again.

    $15 mil guaranteed, for a 32 year old receiver? I don’t like the sound of that. I’m glad he signed here, but damn that’s a lot of guaranteed money for a receiver on the downside of his career.

  33. microbeer says:

    The deal is for much less than 4th pick money and he is proven. I like it. Way to go Ruskell. I can see some light at the end of the tunnel. Playoffs? Are you talking about Playoffs? Playoffs?

  34. bigsmooth says:

    Dukeshire – Of course the salary cap matters. I assume the people that are paid to manage it know how to do just that.

  35. If nothing else – it’s nice to see the Hawks chase and get a guy that was clearly desirable to plenty of other teams in the league. He’s been as reliable as any WR in the league that last several years – and will make a great target in the WCO short game.

    As others have said – this gives us much more freedom in the draft. Two nice additions to the squad.

    Now, let’s re-sign Weaver, and find a Safety in the draft.

  36. He’s a perfect fit for our offense! He can play both Slot and Flanker. Welcome Housh!!

  37. bigsmooth says:

    Also, with the 32 year old business. Come on, WR’s are able to play longer and be more productive than most positions. The guy will be a rock for 3 seasons. Bobby is 34, true? You expect him to be productive this season, true? Housh’s game isn’t predicated on speed, he won’t stop beings savvy and having good hands because he is 35.

  38. microbeer says:

    I would love to see Warner go to the 49ers.

  39. nighthawk2 says:

    “Dukeshire – Of course the salary cap matters. I assume the people that are paid to manage it know how to do just that. ”

    You mean like giving all that money to Alexander instead of Hutchinson and watching Alexander tank in 06 and 07 and releasing him and eating the cap hit in 08? Or signing Branch to all that money after trading our 1st round pick for him and having him miss 11 games in the last 2 years (and being a $5mil cap hit this year)? Or signing Burleson to a lot of money when he had just one good year and giving up a 3rd round pick for him? Or overpaying for Grant? And giving Hasselbeck all that money so he’s a $10.5 mil cap hit this year? And signing Duckett and Jones to ridiculous contracts? Those guys?

  40. doubledink says:

    Apparently he says it was the money he was looking at, but I think the brand new facility for camp and workplace every day had a significant influence. It is really a tool to help lure guys. It says Class with a capital C.

    I like the move. He is what we needed to replace an aging Bobby, sorry to say – wish him well. Classy guy, same style of receiver.

    How let’s get a big draft horse for the OL! pun intended.

  41. Dukeshire says:

    bigsmooth – You asked why worry about money that isn’t ours. I’m telling you why, because it’s a real concern. These same people you “assume” are here to make sure they don’t handcuff themselves, have created a situation where, as an example, it will cost more to cut Kerney than hang on to him bloated contract. They are not always right.

  42. artrickwo says:

    :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

    yay!

    Now we don’t have to draft cragtree (cringe) and can get a real football player with are top 5 pick! :)

  43. > $15 mil guaranteed, for a 32 year old receiver? I don’t like the sound of that. I’m glad he signed here, but damn that’s a lot of guaranteed money for a receiver on the downside of his career.

    i dunno if i would call 32 on the downside yet, tho it is getting close. but the better WR’s in the league seem to have the ability to make up for the loss of a step or two with experience and smarts, at least well into their mid 30’s.

    oh, and Bobby just turned 36, not 34.

  44. Dukeshire says:

    Okay, enough on bigsmooth. He doesn’t deserve a double team. You get the point.

  45. nightwulf says:

    Close, Duke:)
    Resign Willis, trade down (preferably wiht Philly) (at any rate, if you get to #18 or lower, draft draft Mack, if you have 2 2nd rounders (from trading down) use one on Unger and the other on Chung. (of course, if that happens, I’m gonna end up shorting out my keyboard…)

  46. If we resign Ray, then I am glad we have Housh. If this factors into his leaving, I despise the signing. We’ll see… It obvioulsy improves our current situation at WR though, but we still need a better OL so our playmakers can make plays. Right now, our OL isn’t good enough to allow our playmakers to make plays. It’s still early in the off-season. Looking forward to the rest of FA and the draft!

  47. kurtisballard says:

    why is it so clear that he is on the downside of his career? bobby engram had the best season of his career at age 35.

    this is a great pickup. i love the way matt’s weapons look on paper. only thing that can stop us right now is bad luck and offensive line problems. but guess what…we’ve got the number 4 pick in the draft, and another pick not far from where our first pick has been the past several years.

    the optimism has arrived seahawks fans. take it or leave it.

  48. also, FINALLY we have a starting receiver with decent height (6’1) and wingspan (i don’t have the figures but it looks pretty wide). if even one of our better receivers stays healthy and Carlson continues to make good on his terrific potential Matt should be a happy camper this year.

  49. It’s not likely anyone is willing to trade up into the #4 spot due to the cost of signing top-5s.

    As mentioned, Bobby is already 36, which would basically be Housh’s age when this contract expires.

  50. QB_Sneak says:

    Regardless of whether you think Housh is worth the money, tell me it doesn’t feel good that our team snagged one of the top prizes in free agency? I appreciate just being players in FA for once. But on to other things:

    With the 4th pick, in the 2009 NFL draft, the Seattle Seahawks select….

    ??????

  51. nighthawk2 says:

    So how long of a learning curve is it supposed to take for him to learn the WCO? And if he’s playing flanker, what does that mean for Branch? If we trade him, are we still on the hook for his $5 million cap hit this season?

  52. ProblemSolved says:

    The Seahawsk have not had cap problems in years, since alomst the early Holmgren/Erickson era. They were one of the first teams to hire a cap specialist. They did not lose Hutch because of cap issues, they lost him because he wanted out. That we still even mention a guard on this blog day in and day out shows the football ignorance here. People regurgitate scouting crap like they are the bee’s knees but then followup with garbage about a guard that wanted out, desperately, three years ago. Just ignorant. Or drafting banged up slow college WR’s. Or drafting banged up RB’s. Just silly. Don’t worry about getting back at me, I am leaving for the day, but I’m sure it’ll come back up tomorrow and the next day, and the next day until I get fed up and say something again.

  53. PhilKenSebben says:

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I LOVE YOU RUSKELL!!

  54. ryanryan says:

    Nighthawk – Easy big fella…Alexander had already proven to be a great seahawk, we gave him a contract he deserved and then had to pull the plug…imagine what we would all be saying if we hadn’t signed him and he went on to a productive few years with someone else. Our line fell apart for 3 reasons, our center retired (he who makes the calls) and our wiley and effective if not super RG retired as well. So sure, you lose 3 starters on your O-line and you will see a drastic difference. For me the most important person on the line is the center. He HAS to know what is going on and tell the dum road-pavers who to maul with their physical talents.

    Branch is still going to pay off, mark my words: (screen shot?) with the likes of a healthy, more developed and confident Burleson and now a proven producer like HOUSH (can’t wait for that chant – then hearing madden say, “they’re not booing, they’re saying ‘HOUSH’!”) in the mix, he will really prosper these next few years.

    Grant is a solid safety and I believe him to be WAY better than Hamlin or Bouleware, no matter that Hamlin went to the pro-bowl…he is very inconsistent (not to mention we needed him to do more than the cowboys are asking of him).

    Hass is the face of our franchise and a terriffic guy in the lockeroom and deserves the tier of his contract dollars.

    Duckett and Jones…WHIFF!

    So to re-cap…you were 2-7 in your analysis as I see it.

    SUCK ON THAT TREBEK!

  55. Housh was just interviewed on ESPN.

    Highlights:

    Said playing with Hasselbeck was a big factor in his decision

    Enjoyed Mora’s Attitude

    Had a tough choice choosing between Hawks/Vikings, in the end said he was “overthinking” things and just needed to go with his gut.

    Said that Carson Palmer lobbied hard to keep him in cincy, but in the end he decided with the Hawks and won’t look back.

  56. BrianBlades says:

    microbeer @ 15:29 – Monday, March 2nd, 2009

    I would love to see Warner go to the 49ers.

    Um. Did anyone else see this? Microbeer would love Warner to go to the niners. He posted it in a Hawks forum, about TJ Housh.

    Umm…I only had five beers at lunch. But, am I missing something?

    Is this performance art?

    GREATEST POST EVER.

  57. Drillslinger says:

    Huck Futch.
    That said, I would expect Housh. to produce almost immediately. I would imagine (in my ignorance) that the slot position (and it’s relatively short routes) would be easier to learn than say, flanker.

  58. Love the Move!!! Nice Job!!! This is Classic Rusk! Set up for the draft… Just need to do a bit better in the draft itself! …. Still liking a stud OT at #4, a WR in the 2nd rd… after that, all defense/special teams….
    Here’s a thought… are we now in position to move “up” in the draft? Yup, that’s what I said… We can now afford to be sure and get Jason Smith, yes? Drop a later round pick???

  59. edstang45 says:

    I like it!!! Now I want to see them get Aaron Curry …What a beast!!! then get OL/or Chung at top of 2nd. we could even take crabtree still. The draft is going to be a exciting weekend, lots of options

  60. Southendzone says:

    Nice signing, I don’t see TJ as on the downside of his career. Someone mentioned cutting Branch due to this, I hope that’s not necessary DB was coming on strong as the end of last season. I expect him to continue to play like he’s got something to prove in ’09.

    If we could somehow keep Engram around it would be great though that seems unlikely now. I’m hoping for the ABC plan in this year’s draft:

    Anyone
    But
    Crabtree!

  61. nightwulf says:

    Getting Housh for 15 mil gaurenteed is a steal! And if he makes all of his incentives, he will have earned that 8 mil per year…Just like picking up Engram all over again, only better:) I must admit though, I am sad to see Bobby leave…Now go sign Willis to a decent contract.

  62. This is an absolute nightmare. Now I will have to learn how to spell his name.

    Seattle should also pick up a backup LB and TE before the draft.

  63. monroe or smith should be the choice now at #4 but getting curry would be nice, but i dont think hell be there. Housh, nate and branch should be solid, especially with carlson emerging. WE NEED TO DRAFT A RB ON DAY 1 THOUGH.

  64. nighthawk2 says:

    “People regurgitate scouting crap like they are the bee’s knees but then followup with garbage about a guard that wanted out, desperately, three years ago. Just ignorant.”

    What’s ignorant is regurgitating that crap about how he wanted out of Seattle (untrue). Now it’s “desperately”, which is even more untrue. But why let facts get in the way of a favorite folk tale.

    Alexander didn’t deserve that contract. He was coming up on 30 with a lot of mileage on him and his best years in the rear view mirror, and he’d just gotten a gargantuan payday from being Franchised. Handing off the ball 90% of the time to a one dimensional back is not what Holmgren’s WCO was all about. That money should have gone to the best guard in the NFL, who should have been Franchised. It’s history now but let’s not re-write it.

  65. Our Draft Strategy:

    1st round: Take the OT that we want, if he is there. If not, it’s Moreno. We would probably take Curry if here is there, which he won’t be. It we don’t take a OT, we will resign Willis.

    2nd round: Duke Robinson, Mack, or Unger

    3rd round: Safety, Hamlin?

    4th round: Receiver (seems to be a deep draft for them)

    5th round: BPA

    etc…

  66. ryanryan says:

    And in MORA (hehe) defense of Branch, he has been playing with receivers who are young and EASILY fooled by the defense. Remember, the WCO is dependent of the WR and QB to see the same thing…tell me that OB1 or Taylor or Kent have ONE BIT of a clue where to be at any given time. You can’t, its impossible. You see that Branch knows where to be but because of his injuries he hasn’t been able to spend ONE OFFSEASON with Hass to get their stuff together…you will see our top 3 (branch, housh and nate) working hard with matt and i bet that you will see that this year during training camp the offense just might be ahead of the defense which will ACTUALLY CHALLENGE our defense to get better during camp instead of the ‘feel good’ ass kicking they have been doling out on our offense the past few camps.

    ni-night nfc west

  67. toughguy5128 says:

    dude, warner going to the Niners would all but seal the deal for the Hawks to start a new streak of NFC West Division titles!!!! That’s why he posted.

  68. i think the whole crabtree saga sealed the deal for us to grab housh, otherwise if crabtree doesnt have this foot injury i think we were all over him

  69. oh, one question about Housh – how’s his run blocking?

  70. nighthawk2 says:

    “Grant is a solid safety and I believe him to be WAY better than Hamlin or Bouleware, no matter that Hamlin went to the pro-bowl…he is very inconsistent (not to mention we needed him to do more than the cowboys are asking of him).”

    I didn’t say he wasn’t better, I said Ruskell overpaid for him. Which is what I said about all the guys I mentioned, a point you specifically ignored.

    “Branch is still going to pay off, mark my words: (screen shot?) with the likes of a healthy, more developed and confident Burleson and now a proven producer like HOUSH”

    Really? When? And how long before he stays healthy enough to earn the ridiculous amount of money a guy who never had a 1000 yard season was giving (including the $5 million he’s going to get this season)? I’ll be happy if he plays 16 games for once. A more developed and confident Burleson? I’m still waiting for that. In 2006 he started 7 whole games, in 2007 he started 12, and last year played in 1 whole game before being out for the season. I bet if I looked up Pollyana in an ecyclopedia I’d find a lot of you guys faces there.

  71. I love it!! We have a tight end who was amazing as a rookie & now this great wide receiver
    Now I’m looking forward to this year!

  72. doubledink says:

    ibgoofy,

    move up for an OT in this talent pool of OTs? ubgoofy alright. :)

    I too would love to manage to get Jason Smith so we’ll keep dreaming.

  73. We may have gone after Housh anyway, but agree w/seahwk8 that Crabtree’s injury was probably a factor in our pursuit of TJ. I like the way he plays, like his toughness – glad he’s a Seahawk. If Branch is healthy, and Burleson comes back, that’s a nice trio of receivers.

  74. Dratf OL 1st, RB 2nd, S 3rd, than BPA’s, maybe QB in the later rounds.

  75. With the 4th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the 4-12 Seattle Seahawks select…

    Mark Sanchez, QB USC.

    Sorry, I forgot Timmay! was our GM…

    Eugene Monroe, OT Virginia

    I saw T-Ho play in SS a couple seasons ago. He’s a really, really good player. Nice grab for a cuple years anyway.

  76. Resign Weaver and Willis

  77. Drop JJ and Ducket, use Weaver, Forset and 2nd/1st Round draft RB

  78. Drillslinger says:

    While I like Weaver, I don’t see him coming back. We have O.Schmitt as a pure FB and TJ #1 (Duckett) who can play both HB and FB.

  79. nighthawk2 says:

    Here’s Sando’s and Scouts Inc’s Matt Williams take on how Houshmandzadeh affects Seattle. Interesting stuff.

    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-6-60/How-Houshmandzadeh-fits-in-Seattle.html

  80. Yahoo! This is great news, Housh is a play maker. If they don’t sign Bobby E, I also hope he finds a good home not in the NFC for a few more years. And thanks for being a great player, and person.

  81. hawks4372 says:

    This is one of the worst days in franchise history. To be anything but disgusted about this idiotic signing is baffling. You guys want to point a finger at the Redskins and laugh and say “Why do they throw gobs of money at these guys every year? Bwahahahaha”, then you jump for joy about signing a 32 year old possession receiver to a 5 year, 40 mil contract in which an astounding 15 million is guaranteed.

    Is this 4-12 team (in the worst division in football, no less) with one of the lowest rated offenses and defenses in football a TJ away from battling for a championship? It’s an easy one but you guys need the help. The answer is a resounding no. When your team is sh-tty, like this one is, you blow it up and start anew. Tampa Bay is doing it right. Heck, even the Rams are smart enough to put their money into a good young center (by the way- our center still blows) and soon they will cut Holt and Pace. That’s what you do when your team is putrid- like Seattle is.

    Enjoy 5-11 or worse for the forseeable future, you dopes. Hurry up and by those TJ jerseys. You better wear them every day because in two years it’ll be worthless. He’ll still be damaging our salary cap beyond repair long after that but the jersey will be obsolete.

    This organization is run by pure morons and we won’t make the playoffs for at least the next five years. Maybe you easy-to-impress stooges are ok with that. I’m jealous of that, really. I’d love to be happy as mongoloids like you, oblivious to just how stupid this organization is and how rotten this team is. It’s humiliating and embarrassing to call this team mine.

  82. double…. Key is, if we want the stability the best OT can provide, like Walt, don’t take a chance! Hopefully we’re never in this 4th pick overall position for a long, long time…. We move up 2 positions? Trade with Rams? They need draft picks.. Take our 4th rounder? They still get an OT, just not the best one??? Everyone wins… OUR run game gets assured, almost regardless of who the running back is, sets up the passing game even more, keeps our “D” off the field more… all for a #4??? I’d do it in a heartbeat if a available…
    BTW… no comments here on YOUR ID NAME… LOL! not sure why you’re relating to mine.. If I happen to enjoy life more than most, that’s my business… has nothing to do with Hawks football….

  83. hawks4372 says:

    This is one of the worst days in franchise history. To be anything but disgusted about this idiotic signing is baffling. You guys want to point a finger at the Redskins and laugh and say “Why do they throw gobs of money at these guys every year? Bwahahahaha”, then you jump for joy about signing a 32 year old possession receiver to a 5 year, 40 mil contract in which an astounding 15 million is guaranteed.

    Is this 4-12 team (in the worst division in football, no less) with one of the lowest rated offenses and defenses in football a TJ away from battling for a championship? It’s an easy one but you guys need the help. The answer is a resounding no. When your team is sh-tty, like this one is, you blow it up and start anew. Tampa Bay is doing it right. Heck, even the Rams are smart enough to put their money into a good young center (by the way- our center still blows) and soon they will cut Holt and Pace. That’s what you do when your team is putrid- like Seattle is.

    Enjoy 5-11 or worse for the forseeable future, you dopes. Hurry up and buy those TJ jerseys. You better wear them every day because in two years it’ll be worthless. He’ll still be damaging our salary cap beyond repair long after that but the jersey will be obsolete.

    This organization is run by pure morons and we won’t make the playoffs for at least the next five years. Maybe you easy-to-impress stooges are ok with that. I’m jealous of that, really. I’d love to be happy as mongoloids like you, oblivious to just how stupid this organization is and how rotten this team is. It’s humiliating and embarrassing to call this team mine.

  84. What do Grant, Branch, Housh, Ruskell, SA, Nate, Matt, Duckett, Jones &
    Bigsmooth have in common?

    Nighthawk bashed them all in 48minutes.
    Can you list ONE thing that you’re happy with re: the Hawks?

    How come you haven’t bashed on Walt for getting injured last year?
    He was signed to a big contract the same year as Matt wasn’t he?

  85. hotthumbs says:

    If this gets us to draft a OT, I’m thrilled!!!! If we draft Crabtree I’m not so thrilled!!!

  86. DJammmer says:

    bobbyk said:
    “If we resign Ray, then I am glad we have Housh. If this factors into his leaving, I despise the signing. We’ll see… It obvioulsy improves our current situation at WR though, ”

    Bobby, isn’t this tipping Ruskell’s hand. He’s going OL w/ the 4th. I don’t think we would resign Ray for starter Tackle money, and draft one w/ the 4th. We can’t pay 4 tackles starting money.

  87. hawkdawg says:

    Anybody who says that signing a player for $15 million guaranteed over 5 years in today’s NFL is “damaging our salary cap beyond repair long after” two years have expired does not understand the NFL, or the cap. At the very least.

  88. hawkdawg says:

    On Willis, what I conclude from the lack of apparent effort to re-sign him is that Solari had him for one year, and has advised the Hawks not to break the bank. And Solari is a good OL coach.

    That’s not for sure, of course–maybe he is screaming at them to do it, and they won’t. But I doubt that.

  89. Dukeshire says:

    hawks4372 – “This is one of the worst days in franchise history.” Hardly. The day the sale of the team was approved from the Nordstrom family to Ken Behring, that was one of the worst days. Watching the Mayflower vans pull out from their Kirkland headquarters, headed to Anaheim, that was one of the worst days. The day Michael Frier was paralyzed in a drunk driving accident, another low point. Today people are excited about the a good player coming to town. Blow up and start over? No playoffs for 5 years? I’m guessing you’ll make room for yourself on the bandwagon, when ever you see fit. As for now, this is one of the youngest defenses (the core of it) in the league, that has yet to scratch their potential. And an offense that has significantly improved it’s receiving corp. Is Ruskell a moron? Hard for me to argue. One of the worst days in franchise history? Only if you became a fan after week 2 of last year.

  90. doubledink says:

    goofy,
    All in fun. I love the optimism though.

  91. doubledink says:

    Duke,

    well said

  92. This is a great move. If you are complaining about this you are a moron. We needed a
    playmaker on offense. We dont have to rely on stiffs like Courtney Taylor and Ben
    Obamanu. Good move by the Hawks. We still have the cap room to do what we have
    to do. If you think this kills our cap you dont know anything about how the NFL
    salary cap works.

  93. Dukeshire says:

    It is a good move, if not an overpaid one. I wouldn’t go so far as calling Obo a stiff. Taylor? well…

  94. BrettinBonneyLake says:

    Great signing by the Hawks. I don’t support drafting Crabtree, but thinking about a 4 receiver set of Housh, Crabtree, Burleson, and Branch makes me drool. It also makes me think about how much money we would have tied up in those four guys.

    OL was also decimated by injuries last year, and wasn’t that good to begin with. Anything other than an OT with the 4th pick would just be lunacy.

    What is available as far as safeties are concerned? I wouldn’t mind seeing Grant back at FS.

  95. QB_Sneak says:

    It’s humiliating and embarrassing to call this team mine.

    No, I’ll tell you what’s embarassing.

    “Fans” like you. Fans who think a team that has turned itself into a perrennial winner is run by morons. Fans who spend their entire day telling other fans they are mongoloids. For that matter, people who use the word “mongoloid” are embarassing.

    Take your toxic, vitriolic, myopic, immature, uninformed, misguded “fandom” and bail. Don’t suffer embarassment any more by what is – according to all accounts in the national media – a solid, well-run franchise.

    Good bye. 4372? What is that, your inmate number? Pi$$ off.

  96. first 3 draft picks should be offensive line

  97. CeaYoung says:

    Wow… look at all the blog-heads poppin’ up now.

    Nice to meet you guys…

  98. Remember how long it took Shaun to get over the stress fracture in his foot? Please, not Crabtree with the fourth overall pick.

    If Hass ends up on IR because the O line still can’t protect him, what good is TJ? If the O line can’t open holes for JJ, what good is he. Fix the O line. I so much wish the Hawks had spent that money on Ravens center Jason Brown instead of TJ.

  99. jeezus, hawk4372 – enough with the sky-is-falling hyperbole and insults already . . .what’s your argument against Housh? He’s a good player – we’ve managed to snag a very productive, good player at a position that was arguably our weakest area last year, the money is market-dictated, we weren’t the only team interested in the guy.

    Glad to see us players rather than spectators in the FA market – esp after a disastrous year like the last one. Hawks are a good franchise, one down year, doesn’t wash away the success of the last five.

  100. travisr11 says:

    hawks4372 —
    I give you a 5/10. You made a good effort but you ran out of steam near the end though. Keep trying!

  101. twocolorcrayon says:

    I like this. Hopefully Mike Hass breaks out and becomes our #4 WR too, we should have a very, very, very good WR corps this year if healthy and Hasselbeck stays healthy and UPRIGHT!!!

  102. I’m very happy with this. I’d also like to see Engram & Robinson come back (for low $’s). Last year showed that we need the depth at WR.

  103. OutSydeDog says:

    Holmgren turned this franchise into winners during his time. I think/hope that TR and Mora can keep us there. 4-12 or 12-4, I’m always on the bandwagon, drinking the blue koolaid :)

    I like this signing, but hate to see Bobby E go. Doesn’t TJ Housh wear #84?

    GO HAWKS!!!

  104. chuck_easton says:

    Now the debate begins and can go right up until final cuts in September. The team traditionally keeps either 5 or 6 WR’s.

    Housh, Branch, and Burleson are the top three.

    Who gets the remaining 2 to 3 spots?

    Obiwan has an inside chance. Does Payne make it? I don’t ever wish to see Taylor in Sehawk blue again. Do they keep Kent?

  105. This is a good pick up. It allows us to make other moves for different areas we need to improve – O line.

  106. They should keep Payne and Kent. We need Kent’s speed now that we have Housh

  107. bigmike04 says:

    I know alot of people are fans of Bobby engram but let kind of face it the guy is close to retiring. Only chance he get with hawks is as coach or in some other capaticity from what Jim Mora was refering to in one of his press conference.

    Thought good move for hawks.

  108. Dukeshire says:

    Who is the webmaster for the Seahawk’s home page? Always so slow to update. Considering where Paul Allen made his fortune, it’s rather embarrassing.

  109. twocolorcrayon says:

    I really wish we could trade Branch and still draft Crabtree.

    People will think I’m insane for saying that, but Crabtree is cold blooded. He’ll be successful in the NFL, he’ll put up star-like numbers. I’m sure of it, hell, he may struggle his rookie season, but all rookies do (for the most part). Yeah, we need Oline help, blah blah. It won’t happen, but, just sayin’. I’d be confident with Housh/Crab/Burle/Carlson running around out there.

  110. In my opinion we are not really a 4 – 12 team. there is alot more talent on this team than cle or kc or cincy or any of those other constant losing franchises. When your starting QB basically misses the season and your playing guys off the streets at WR for the first half of the year then your obviously not gonna have a very good season. What happened on defense is really inexcussable, but ill give them a mulligan and hope we get some new safety help and a full year of kearny. Drafting monroe, smith, or curry would be awesome in my opinion, but i really think we need some fresh legs in the backfield and hope we have a new RB on board on day 1 of this years draft. Maybe ian johnson from boise st.

  111. twocolorcrayon says:

    I mean, if you’re drafting BPA and not need.

  112. freedom_X says:

    hawks4372 – don’t call it your team then. Go root for the Jets. There a law that says you are stuck with Seattle and have to post on a Seattle blog?

  113. ryanryan says:

    NH2

    I didn’t ignore your point of being overpaid…I felt there was obvious inference to the lack of validity of your overpaid argument by my statements

    I feel like you didn’t take in what I had to say about Alexander…I will concede that we waited a year too long to drop him, but with the injuries he had after he signed the contract there was no way to know he was washed up…he had never been injured before and the line was terrible, you had to give him a pass (well…YOU didn’t, but Ruskell did).

    I know you did not say that Grant wasn’t better safety…but had last season unfolded (in the secondary) as the first year of Grant and Russel’s tenure your argument would hold no water whatsoever (in my humble yet adament argument), they played great that first year and everyone seemed pretty happy and payment seemed commensurate with performance. So then I deduce that it boils down to our differing opinions; I believe last year was an aberrition, while you believe it to be the normality which we will all come to recognize (as you have already done) this year. I suppose this year will tell the tale.

    As far as my ‘opinion’ that branch will pay divedends (what he’s being paid) with the other wide receivers that are in our stable, I specifically told you when…THIS YEAR, so I suppose your question has been answered.

    With Burleson…re-read your comments about him playing in more games (he didn’t know the WCO his first year, and EVERYONE knows you don’t JUMP IN RUNNING) each of his first two years. You can also look at his stats as both a receiver and as a returner his second year as a seahawk as showing improvement as a player and getting more comfortable with his new team (yeah, yeah…I know I am somewhat of a liberal cuddly-bear). Don’t forget that while we needed a WR, he was a little bit of a pawn in the MN and SEA negotiations that year which put a lot of pressure on this kid: coming home, signed for a lot of money (backloaded and BS but nevertheless), and our whole seahawk community expecting him to come in and virtually erase the Hutch debacle with this super shiny brand new receiver.

    Pollyanna? I think not…actually, YOU think not!

    Whoa, that was a bit much but hey, gotta love the hawks right?

  114. vichawkfan says:

    i´ll be brief (excuse the keyborad manner, in Punta Cana) TJ is the perfect signig for the us….character, hands, dowfield blocker-reszone target etc. I dont give a sh”t about the money, not our issue eitherway. Anyone think JoeJ is missed….don´t now.
    As mentioned Eric ‘ any break down of the cap afther this deal is apprcesieactedddd…..too many dwinks.

  115. This is what I think we should do

    Draft crabtree 1st round

    Resign willis

    Patrick Chung safty 2nd round

    3-4 round running back and OL

    Release or trade brian Russel

    Maybe sign shawn spring

    This would help us for next year playoff run and set us up for the future
    What do you guys think

  116. ryanryan says:

    I think Gabe doesn’t know Ruskell…crabteee is a moot point. Willis will not be resigned now that we can draft an OT in the first round. We will not draft a safety in the 2st round, TR likes veteran safety’s. Springs hates Seattle and 3rd and 4th round picks are spent on DL.

  117. BORNHAWK says:

    Still want Crabtree.

  118. ryanryan says:

    like I said, we will not draft a safety in the 2st or 1nd round.

  119. There is a chance that the fifth year of the contract is unreasonable and that TJ won’t finish out that year as a Seahawk (unless his contract is restructured). This deal may be better for us than the 5 year $40 million. Perhaps it’s really a 4 year contract for $28 million or something like that. I’m not saying that’s what it is — I am just speculating. This way the agent saves face thinking that Housh would get more on the open market than he did.

    Now, with respect to this opening the door for us to take a tackle at #4… I really don’t see how taking Monroe makes us that much better if we allow Willis to leave via FA. It’s just like allowing Hill to leave, only to draft Curry. We lose one and gain one. We don’t get better and there are still holes on the team that need to be addressed.

    None of you can guarantee that Monroe is going to be a stud (or anyone). You just can’t. What I can almost guarantee you is that Willis will be a better run blocker than Monroe (or Smith). This we know. We have film of Willis pancaking the hell out of DEs at the NFL level. I agree with the reader who said you don’t need 4 starting tackles making big bucks. However, we have Walt, Lock, and Willis. We have versatility. One can play guard. We have a HUGE hole at RG right now.

    I’m not advocating Orakpo (I have stated that’s who I think Ruskell will pick), but it makes more sense to be 4 deep at DE than it does OT. You don’t rotate on the OL like you do on the DL.

    In my perfect world (besides the obvious scenario of us winning the next 75 Super Bowls) we will get Willis resigned to we can take the BPA at #4 (if we can’t trade down). Such as a game changing RB (hello Mr. Moreno!). I think the perfect fit would be Mack in the 2nd round, but we’ll see…

  120. Coolalvin says:

    Too bad Mays decided to stay at the University of Scandal.

    Anyways… I like idea of a 4 WR set with Housh, Branch, Burleson and Branch.

    Go Seahawks and Go Dawgs!!!

  121. ryanryan says:

    bring back steve hutchinson…I NEED YOU TONIGHT, CAUSE I’M NOT SLEEPING…THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT YOU TIMMY…THAT MAKES ME PUKE.

  122. Coolalvin says:

    Last WR on that last post was suppose to say Engram

  123. ryanryan says:

    oh, I though that branch was going to have to play 2 wr postions to earn his salary (nh2) ;)

  124. Add those two yardage totals from each Branch and finally it may add to over 1,000 yards in a season!

  125. ryanryan says:

    see? proves me right

  126. No matter what, we may be giving a lot of money to a specific position.

    Yes, Branch, Housh, and Burleson each make a lot of money. But Crabtree may be the BPA and would add youth to the position.

    We all know how much we’re paying the LBs, but if Curry is the BPA… well, it’s stupid not to take the best guy.

    If we have Walt, Lock and a resigned Willis… if Smith or Oher are there… again, it’s stupid not to take the best football player.

    Age at some WR spots may make us want to take a WR, Hill essentially playing on a 1 year deal may make us want the LB, or Walt getting old and coming off surgery may make us want to go OT even if Ray is resigned.

    Either way, BPA just makes the most sense and Timmay! is getting us closer to being a solid team going into the draft. There’s still a problem with FS and RG (and C, RB) but pieces are starting to come together.

  127. ryanryan says:

    goodnight fellow hawk fans…almost 10:30 in stupid atlanta and ryanryan needs some sleep, DAMN WIFE AND HER GROWING UP HERE IN THE SOUTH.

  128. Report: Seahawks talking with TE Josh Daniels of the Lions. A converted D lineman, known for run blocking. Could pair nicely with Carlson and is a much better and bigger blocker then Heller. Im down.

  129. Sorry ryanryan because you know ruskell so well what players will he take. Oh let me guess your going to say a DE first round and a center 2nd round or another corner

  130. seahawk0824 says:

    Will everyone do me a personal favor and calm…the… f*&k… down. Seems like there is hysteria in just about every facet of daily life these days. As far as the Hawks is related I granted am no expert but this signing makes sense.

    Reasons:

    Joe Jerivicious’ (please forgive spelling) hands are in retrospect proving to be more and more important to the Hawks’ Superbowl run. We’ve missed that….and badly since he left. In other words, you don’t need to stretch the seem when you are consistently getting first downs.

    Hoosh is a big name, ergo he will factor in to opponets’ game plans and even if he gets nullified every week that leaves (or it should anyway) someone else open.

    Word is that he is not afraid to throw a block which is refreshing since NFL WRs aren’t known for their willingness to engage in run protection.

    Now I am fully aware of the considerable factors against him

    Age, 31 in football years is a scary number the onus is on him to make sure production doesn’t slip

    Money, 5 years $40 mill, anyway you look at it that is a lot, however this to me smells of backloading. TJ will need to prove himself for the first three to even get a whiff of the last two years. $15 mil guranteed does make me nervous though as dead money is a serious drain on a team’s cap resources (paging Jamie Sharper)

    I don’t and I will never buy the “if he stays healthy” argument because it is true for every player in the NFL. NOBODY knows when a player’s body starts to give out it could be year 2 or year 12; so sitting and fretting about it doesn’t do anyone any good….at all.

    Consequences

    Where does Deion Branch fit in all of this? It is my understanding that he is due to make a big chunk of change. Will he get released? or will he re-structure? Or maybe surprisingly none of the above

    Leroy Hill is currently sucking up a lot of cap space as the franchise player (the correct call in my opinion); is the organization making any progress to signing him long term which would increase this year’s space?

    Other Seahawk free agents: Personally I would like to see Floyd Womack go by the wayside and retain Willis and Weaver but can we do that now?

    Draft: This is perhaps the most puzzling of all the offseason tasks. Where oh where do the hawks go from here? Well for one thing I think that they will almost assuredly move down but then what? OT? QB? (neither Matt nor Walter are getting any younger) DL (seems unlikely with Cole now) WR? S? (brother Brian needs to either shape up or get shipped out!). I have no idea but sure will be fun finding out. Remember NO free agent has ever sunk an organization but bad draft picks on the other hand……..(insert horrid memory of Rick Mirer here)

    Last but definitely not least, I would like to personally thank Bobby Engram for all his hard work and production for the Hawks. Bobby is a victim of agesim and it stinks but he will find a team to play for and I hope he is productive for that team for at least 3 more seasons (who knows the Bears maybe?)

    In the meantime all the Ruskell hat……you know what? second thought keep hatin’ keep telling us what should be done and how Tim screwed up again. Keep shouting that every move he makes is one step away from the superbowl while somehow forgetting he is the only GM to take us there.

    Tim worshipping is equally dumb because the man has made some glaring mistakes (but really who hasen’t?) but the man is at least trying his very best which is A LOT MORE than I can say for all the prior GMs combined (yes including coach Holmgren as great as a coach as he was) who were with the exception of Holmy (juggling to many big things) were asleep at the wheel.

    now as always, GO HAWKS!!!!

  131. ryanryan says:

    gabe – First round OT, 2nd round cb or rb, 3rd round rb or cb, 4th-7th round all Kickers baby…can’t EVER have too many Kickers on payroll…seriously, goodnight.

  132. I am totally down with signing a dominant run blocking TE to pair with Carlson. IMO – that’s vital. Housh is a good run blocker – something else I’m very happy about.

  133. Branch and a 3rd round pick to Cleveland for Braylon Edwards?

  134. It sounds like ryanryan think ruskell will draft the same positions ever year

  135. twocolorcrayon says:

    Is that just some random thought or an actual rumor, BobbyK? Don’t mess with my head like that.

  136. twocolorcrayon says:

    “For those who have asked, the Seahawks are holding a news conference at 11 a.m. tomorrow.”

  137. flahawker says:

    Guys,
    RDon’t waste your text on nighthawk2. He is a Raider fan pretending to be a Seahawk fan. I exposed him a few years back. He’s a fraud who hates the Seahawks.

  138. hawkcrazy says:

    Since Ruskell arrived, we’ve signed some “prized” free agents (all pros)

    JP
    Kearney
    Housh

    Not to mention some very valuable pieces…

    Burleson
    Branch
    Julius
    Duckett
    Grant
    Wahle

    His drafts have included some big hits (Tatupu, Hill, J. Wilson, Mebane) and misses (Spencer, Jennings, Greene).

    Yeah, I miss Hutch, Alexander (in his prime), Tobeck, Mack and Gray…but admittedly (w/the exception of Hutch) those players were in the twilight of their careers.

    I think Ruskell has done a phenomenal job BUILDING on the foundation that Holmgren set and IMHO is taking us to the “NEXT” level. I can’t tell you how grateful I am to be a Hawks fan.

    Ruskell bashers…stick with your day job. At least hopefully, you’re good at that!

    :-)

  139. hawkcrazy says:

    Just saw that A. Cromartie is on the trading block apparently because of a bum hip last year? What’s he worth? I thought he was spectacular a few years ago but if last year’s injury is significant, forget it.

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/03/chargers-looking-to-deal-cromartie/

  140. signing okay – but it depends on what they do from here on out.

    Weaver is important but will probably make too much money. Willis still isn’t getting a ton of attention so maybe he comes back.

    I still would love to trade down with Oakland!! but I doubt it will ever happen. You know Al would be drooling over Crabtree! Let them get him and try and fleece them out of their 2nd rounder!! Even if we had to give up our fourth or third to get it!

  141. hawkcrazy says:

    Could the Hawks be angling for JEREMY MACLIN? He IS healthy and a burner!

    Yeah, yeah…OL, OL. If it’s Smith, I’m down. Monroe…maybe.

    A lot of scouts like Maclin’s athleticness (think S. Smith). If we do get the injury bug or Nate is quite ready to go, I sure would love to have someone that can stretch the field. What was his forty? Good, I’m sure.

    Anyway, just thinking out loud. Haven’t seen anyone else mention it…yet.

  142. hawkcrazy says:

    This is gonna gain momentum…seriously.

    “As far as his character is concerned, Maclin is supposedly one of the most genuine, down-to-earth people you could ever meet. Maclin comes from a well-reported background, one that only further endeared him to a fan base who needed no excuse to embrace him anyway. When Maclin cried at the press conference announcing his decision to turn pro, a part of all Missouri fans cried with him. He cited how much he loved the Missouri “family,” and for that, the Missouri family will always love him.”

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/2/13/758094/niners-nation-scouting-rep

    I hate the 49er’s but the scouting report was pretty sound.

  143. Hawkfan_55 says:

    hawks4372 or whatever the hell….
    this is not your team. anyone who talks that much trash about a franchise does not get to claim them as his team. maybe it’s time to find a new sport. go pester the WNBA!!!!!

    loser

  144. Like the moves so far…and should get back to the top of the division as the injury plague can’t hit us 2 years in a row. Hope we go Oline with #4 and RB or even Oline again in 2nd round. Can’t wait to see the Hawks on the field again to erase last years memories.

  145. NickHawk1 says:

    The Hawks will not draft a WR with the fourth pick (Too much money invested in one position, just like the LB’s) AND it will be VERY HARD to trade down.

    GEZZ…now can we think rationally?

    With the first pick – Monroe or Orakpo…

    Curry, Smith will be gone before our pick. Also I do not see the Hawks drafting a QB that high, again to much money to sit on the bench. So no to Stafford and Sanchez. AND no to Raji, to much like Mebane.

    Any questions?

  146. DJammmer says:

    BobbyK said:
    ” I agree with the reader who said you don’t need 4 starting tackles making big bucks. However, we have Walt, Lock, and Willis. We have versatility. One can play guard. We have a HUGE hole at RG right now. ”

    At least can we all agree that whoever is drafted 4th needs to start? The only way we should be paying $10M per to a backup – is if he is our future franchise QB.

    The only position I can see drafting a starter for at 4 now, is tackle. Curry’s not displacing our LBs, Crabree’s not discplaing our top 3 (not as a rookie w/ a cracked foot), The top CB is too slow, The top DL has character issues.

    I guess we could draft a safety @ 4 (God knows we need one), but that would be too much $$.

    Unless the hawks can trade down; I think they have to draft a starting tackle – and play him at guard. Because whoever they draft will immediatly be one of the top five paid players on the team – and he better start.

  147. hawkcrazy says:

    Ah, the ever prophetic C. Farnsworth. Eric, no worries…you’re still our guy.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/396622_hawk19.html

  148. F12CHawk says:

    hawks4372 @ 16:48 – Monday, March 2nd, 2009

    “This is one of the worst days in franchise history. To be anything but disgusted about this idiotic signing is baffling. You guys want to point a finger at the Redskins and laugh and say “Why do they throw gobs of money at these guys every year? Bwahahahaha”, then you jump for joy about signing a 32 year old possession receiver to a 5 year, 40 mil contract in which an astounding 15 million is guaranteed.

    Is this 4-12 team (in the worst division in football, no less) with one of the lowest rated offenses and defenses in football a TJ away from battling for a championship? It’s an easy one but you guys need the help. The answer is a resounding no. When your team is sh-tty, like this one is, you blow it up and start anew. Tampa Bay is doing it right. Heck, even the Rams are smart enough to put their money into a good young center (by the way- our center still blows) and soon they will cut Holt and Pace. That’s what you do when your team is putrid- like Seattle is.

    Enjoy 5-11 or worse for the forseeable future, you dopes. Hurry up and buy those TJ jerseys. You better wear them every day because in two years it’ll be worthless. He’ll still be damaging our salary cap beyond repair long after that but the jersey will be obsolete.

    This organization is run by pure morons and we won’t make the playoffs for at least the next five years. Maybe you easy-to-impress stooges are ok with that. I’m jealous of that, really. I’d love to be happy as mongoloids like you, oblivious to just how stupid this organization is and how rotten this team is. It’s humiliating and embarrassing to call this team mine.”

    You’re an idiot.

  149. F12CHawk says:

    NickHawk1 @ 21:55 – Monday, March 2nd, 2009

    “With the first pick – Monroe or Orakpo…”

    I would love Orakpo!!! Dude is an absolute man beast. He would play as a 4-3 End but could also move to 3-4 Backer with his speed. It sounds to me that Mora and co. are considering mixing it up between a 4-3 and a 3-4 at times next season thus making Orakpo a very intriguing and possible pick at #4.

  150. vandeway says:

    I would love to see if we could trade down in the first round to either Oakland or Cincy(they may not have a warm fuzzy with us right now though) or if Cleveland wants to swap picks and take either Branch or Burleson for Edwards I would be all for that. With that pick an OT would be nice but I would love to see us go after Orakpo or Moreno and for the love of all that is holy get rid of either Duckett or Jones especially since I think Weaver could fill the role that Duckett currently is filling. Then going after a G/C with our 2nd round pick would be good especially if Oakland is willing to part with theirs in order to swap first round picks with us and then we could get one of the top rated Safeties in the draft(I would love to see Chung wearing green and blue). I would also love to see the Hawks go after Mike Reilly or John Parker Wilson in the fourth round. I would love to see a long term replacement for Walt in the draft but I really don’t think someone of his caliber is available in this years draft even as impressed as I was with Jason Smith during the combine. We were a lot closer than our record dictated last year to being decent but couldn’t get a darn thing to go our way and I cannot wait to see what a more aggressive defense, simpler blocking schemes and a better running game will do for us. I am a first time blogger so please take it easy on me.

  151. Championship.

  152. Jammer – If that’s your logic than we need to take Moreno and let him gain 1,600 yards as a rookie. Nobody can tell me that if teams would do a redraft in 5 years that this guy won’t be one of the high picks in the “redo.” This is after resigning Willis and making tackle insignificant (although I still predict Orakpo).

  153. Also, Braylon Edwards? Really? Karen Dropinson is cheaper, and the fact that he’s lost a step doesn’t really matter since they’re just going to drop the pass anyway…

  154. B. Edwards drops a TON of passes!! Not excited about getting him unless it helps us get younger and clear cap space – And correct me if I am wrong – he gets INJURED! Nice talent but not always that you can count on.

    I would rather see a healthy Cromartie from SD if he is available!

    As far as trading down it is hard BUT This is why I think it is possible since Oakland would covet Crabtree and if he is available at 4 I think they may be willing to jump. But that would only bring us an extra 3 or 4 unless we where willing to send something their way beyond the #4.

    But that being said according to the NFL value chart swapping our 1’s and then Oaklands 2nd for our 3rd works out very well! I would be very happy with 7, 36, 39 and 100 on the first day!

  155. DJammmer says:

    Bobby,k,
    I could live with Moreno. Ruskell would take crap for drafting the 15th best player in the draft (ala espn) w/ the 4th pick. But I agree that we can pay $10M / year to a RB drafted in the 1st round. I don’t even think he needs to go above 1000 yards his rookie year; as long as they are doing smart situational running with him JJ + TJ. And maybe we still develop Forsett.

    So that makes Willis your long term RT, and we already have Walt’s replacement playing RT right now.

    Yeah – I could live with that. I guess deep down, I always hoped we’d get another Walt w/ the 4th – but that’s a reach. Lightning is probably not striking twice.

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