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Alexander meets the press

Post by Darrin Beene / The News Tribune on Nov. 28, 2007 at 6:24 pm with 77 Comments »
November 28, 2007 6:24 pm

Here are some quotes from Shaun Alexander’s post-practice press conference:


On resuming practice: "Today was exciting. I’m blessed I could have Christmas a little bit earlier than everybody else because I got to do something I love to do which is play football."


On if he feels fresh: "Yeah, I definitely feel fresh. This was a good day."


On how it felt missing practice time: "It’s one of those things. We’ve been playing our whole lives so it’s always a weird feeling when you’re gone but to come back, it felt good."


On if his injuries are healed: "No. Nothing’s healed. This is football. It’s definitely something I can play with and I’ll just try to go out there and play hard."


On the new pass-first offense: "We’re 3-0 the last three games so whatever we’re doing is working so we’re just going to keep on rolling …. We’re going to do the same thing we’ve been doing and hopefully we can keep on winning. I love it. I think we needed to do it and obviously we’ve been winning so I’m definitely all for it."


On what his role will be in upcoming games: "It’s the same as always; go out there and make plays and play hard and that’s what I’m going to do."


On Maurice Morris continuing to get playing times: "Mo has always played a little bit. Mo and I, we have a great relationship just like when I was the backup for Ricky (Watters). We let the coaches decide what’s going to happen and we just play, and we always, I’m not the guy that holds on the secret to this. Mo did a lot of great things while I was gone, and he’s going to continue to do them. Whatever it takes for us to keep winning, that’s what we’re going to shoot for."


On his knee: "I won’t be surprised if I’m a little sore, but it feels really good right now. I kept on asking if I looked normal, if it looked OK, and everyone said I looked fresh. That’s a good thing."

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  1. elperrograndedos says:

    Alexander plays 1 or more plays = Seahawks BLOWN out

    And Shaun, not too worry, this is God’s will!

  2. Gawd! I can hardly stand to read his substance-less quotes. Look at my knee, Look at my knee! What is he 12 years old?

  3. elperrograndedos says:

    God just called me and He said that if Alexander plays the Seahawks will be BLOWN out …

  4. Anyone else notice that Cortez Kennedy is a Hall of Fame semifinalist? Quite a change from last year when he was not even on the initial list.

  5. cititravis says:

    What is starbucks having a sale on hateraide? He says all the right things and you still hate it. I would hate to see how you treat a guy that brought the seahawks to their only superbowl, won their only MVP award, and is a standup guy in the community…oh wait I see how it is. RIDICULOUS!

  6. mibuttiznum says:

    If you are only seeing it now, then where have you been all year?
    The guy is an a$$. Made that decision when he would magically “vanish”
    when autographs were being done at training camp the last couple of years. I was at training camp for two weeks and NEVER saw the guy signing anything. I wish we would at least wait until he is 100% before sticking ol’ one arm back in there.

  7. Anniee882000 says:

    I love how he says “Mo always gets to play a little bit.” Is he insinuating that’s how he wants it?

    Why would Holmgren give Mo less playing time; he has been great. He doesn’t turn around and sit down the minute he gets hit. He keeps going and looks hungry. Maybe that’s how you run when you really want the job.

    Ack. If he gets a bunch of playing time we’re sure to lose. Anytime he comes in the line up the Eagles will know there won’t be a swing pass to the running back, nor will there be any substantial block from the RB.

  8. star4343 says:

    wow I guess there are alloit more crass people out there than I thought. To bad that you all have nothing better to do than Hate aguy who said everything right. This is why the seattle fan base are alaguhing stocks around the league.

  9. CADjockey says:

    Maybe everyone will get lucky and the fact that Mo has been showing himself capable to carry the load alone will give Shaun a little bit of a chip on his shoulder. Maybe he is starting to feel his job crumble below his feet. They could cut him after the season and not take too much of a crippling hit to next years cap assuming they draft a back high in the draft. For his sake he better finish this year off and start playing with some HEART!

    This game scares me for some reason….but if they can find a way to leave Philly with a win they could gain a lot of confidence in playing on the road. That could lead to a really exciting end of the year.

    Now that would be an early Xmas present.

  10. JazBadAzz says:

    Having SA back will be an extra weapon in the arsenal if the coaches use him effectivly. Ask any coach in the league would they want SA to be added to their team than all of them would say yes; if not than why do they game plan for him so much? When SA is in the starting line-up the 1st thing the opposing D-coordinator does is prepare to slow him down! If you don’t think so than go back and read some of the coaches pregame/postgame comments and see for yourself!

  11. RichmondHawk says:

    That is the stupidest thing I’ve heard.

    Nice assesment does playing the less-gifted RB give us a better chance to win? I guess the “Timmy Numbskull’s and idiot for signing Kerney” argument went out the door so you haters have to hang on to whatever you can to put this team down.

    I just love how Mo’s such as stud for getting nice runs when they pretend to throw. The fricken safety he gave up last game almost cost us the game. Yet nobody even mentions it, if SA did, you would never hear the end of it.

    Don’t get me wrong Mo’s played pretty good for what he has to offer but he’s not a feature back like SA. His inability to get 1/2″ on a consistant basis even with a bad offensive like is proof of that.

  12. hawkforever21 says:

    I’ve got to start by saying…..I don’t hate Shaun. I know Shaun had a great year in 2005. He played harder that year than any other year that he has in a Seahawks uniform. He also tends to play harder inside the 10-yard line. I will also give him that. He also benefits greatly from Holmgren’s west coast style offense. He played behind a great O-line and managed to do some great things. He is not in the league of an LT or a Barry Sanders, or Emmit Smith, or Walter Payton…..those guys gave a sh*t each and every time they touched the ball. They did anything and everything to help their teams win. Block, protect, catch a ball of two…..run over a guy or two…..anything. Shaun does not, and has not (with the exception of his 2005 season).
    The way Mo hits the holes….and catches passes out of the backfield…..and protects Matt….makes him more valuable than Shaun. Bottom line. Mo is not a God….he is just more valuable to this team, than Alexander is.
    While Shaun is looking for the perfect hole to cut through, he is losing yard after yard….forcing us to punt. His inability to pick up the blitz, puts Matt at risk, and his inability to catch a pass makes him useless on screen plays. Another weapon that could be so deadly for them.

    I don’t hate Shaun, I just don’t think he’s as good as his stats have shown in the past. Other backs would have been so much more valuable in this offense.

    Just one man’s opinion.

  13. RichmondHawk says:

    That is the whole gist of the situation. If you put SA in the situation as Mo is in right now, he would out do him.

    Sorry to say but this is NOT the same offense SA had to play with before his injury. When they handed the ball to SA prior to the change to the passing attack it was usually a hand-off to the left or right on first or second downs. Its a lot harder to run the ball when teams know you’re running on the play and your o-line is crap. You get a 4 reciever set then drop back to pass then hand it Mo so he can run when nobody’s around him is totally different story. Whop-di-doo, Josh Brown could probably run for 80 yards a game given 10 of those a game.

    Bottom line is, Mo’s a third down back at best. Holmy knew that things weren’t working with the o-line and Mo is not a feature back; hence, the switch to the passing game.

    Mo getting 80 yards a game is a gloss over of the real situation. We run Mo, to keep them honest. We’re not going anywhere trying to pound Mo for 25 carries a game, period.

  14. navy_at_3 says:

    Alexander meets the pressPosted by Darrin Beene @ 06:24:50 pm Here are some quotes from Shaun Alexander’s post-practice press conference:

    On resuming practice: "Today was exciting. I’m blessed I could have Christmas a little bit earlier than everybody else because I got to do something I love to do which is play football."

    On if he feels fresh: "Yeah, I definitely feel fresh. This was a good day."

    On how it felt missing practice time: "It’s one of those things. We’ve been playing our whole lives so it’s always a weird feeling when you’re gone but to come back, it felt good."

    On if his injuries are healed: "No. Nothing’s healed. ([b]im as good as a 1 armed red head step child[/b]) This is football. It’s definitely something I can play with and I’ll just try to go out there and play hard."

    On the new pass-first offense: "We’re 3-0 the last three games so whatever [b](i havnt payed attention to what we are doing.. what have we done to win 3 in a row?) [/b]we’re doing is working so we’re just going to keep on rolling …. We’re going to do the same thing ([b]what are we doing again?[/b]) we’ve been doing and hopefully we can keep on winning.([b]by giving me the ball more. I WANT THE BALL more. i’ll just slow down so the o line can keep up[/b]) I love it. ([b]i love getting the ball[/b]) I think we needed to do it and obviously we’ve been winning so I’m definitely all for it. ([b]as long as I have the ball[/b])"

    On what his role will be in upcoming games: "It’s the same as always; ([b]what have we been doing in the last 3 games?) [/b]go out there and make plays and ([b]break easy)[/b] play hard and that’s what I’m going to do. ([b]which is lay down before the D can target me and hurt me again… did i mention im going to get the ball ALOT[/b]?)"

    On Maurice Morris continuing to get playing times: "Mo has always played a little bit.([b]20 carries all season long until i decided i needed to sit out 3 games…. it was all me[/b]) Mo and I, ([b]I first, Mo second[/b]) we have a great relationship ([b]like china and usa have[/b])just like when I was the backup for Ricky (Watters). ([b]i hurt him so i can get the ball more[/b]) We let the coaches decide what’s going to happen and we just play,([b]and argue it during the game… put me in coach give me the ball[/b]) and we always, I’m not the guy that holds on the secret to this. ([b]?[/b]) Mo did a lot of great things while I was gone, ([b]I AM still the starter, i can get two TD’s in 3 games too!…. but coach wont let me[/b]) and he’s going to continue to do them.([b]what was he doing[/b]?) Whatever it takes for us to keep winning, that’s what we’re going to shoot for. ([b]as long as i get the ball[/b])"

    On his knee: "I won’t be surprised if I’m a little sore ([b]i am a great actor[/b]), but it feels really good right now ([b]No. Nothing’s healed[/b].). I kept on asking if I looked normal, if it looked OK, and everyone said I looked fresh.([b]im a great actor. i get what i want too[/b]) That’s a good thing. ([b]cause i want the ball[/b])"

  15. navy_at_3 says:

    btw the above is just a mock at SA.. nothing personal… just something to laugh about….

    next victim.. regis i mean richmondHawk…

    That is the whole gist of the situation. If you put SA in the situation as Mo is in right now, he would out do him.

    Sorry to say but this is NOT the same offense SA had to play with before his injury. When they handed the ball to SA prior to the change to the passing attack it was usually a hand-off to the left or right on first or second downs. Its a lot harder to run the ball when teams know you’re running on the play and your o-line is crap. You get a 4 reciever set then drop back to pass then hand it Mo so he can run when nobody’s around him is totally different story. Whop-di-doo, Josh Brown could probably run for 80 yards a game given 10 of those a game.

    Bottom line is, Mo’s a third down back at best. Holmy knew that things weren’t working with the o-line and Mo is not a feature back; hence, the switch to the passing game.

    Mo getting 80 yards a game is a gloss over of the real situation. We run Mo, to keep them honest. We’re not going anywhere trying to pound Mo for 25 carries a game, period.

    serious dude?

    Hence the passing game… ummm we went to that passing game before SA was benched.

    Running just to keep them honest.. well duh. We are built as a passing team first always have been. Homley is a pass O type of guy (you have heard of the west coast offense right?) The WR’s hawks have and had were all ment for Matt to throw alot. It just so happened in 2005 season that SA ran alot… and ran well… but guess what? Those were also the years Matt broke passing team records (or tied)… guess what, it was a pass O. You can’t possibly tell me that because SA ran so much each game, hawks decided they wanted to pass towards end of games to run down the clock.

    Lets be realistic mate. SA is old, broken (he himself said he’s still not healthy even though he also said he feels fresh :~/ ?) Your little comparrison of “if SA was healthy and put in the same situation as MO did he would of out performed him”… well no SH&^ SA is a better back when healthy. NO ONE will say otherwise however he’s not fully healthy, and because of his cast he can’t block and protect Matt…. you honestly think we are going to change our “pass first” game plan against the 7th ranked Philly D just because SA is back? Oh…. you did… that’s so sweet.

    Face it, this is tied for our longest winning streak of the season… wait no it’s our longest. SA doesnt know what we have been doign but us fans do. Stop doing that, and we simply slip back to our old ways… which was below average at best.

    ALSO my lil theory i threw out about 3 weeks ago that O line doesnt like blocking for SA cause he doesnt work hard and they like to block for MO cause he does work hard… i think this is more true after hearing the same thing come from CHI’s O line not liking to block for Benson who was having a worse year then SA was…. yet they like to block for Adrian Peterson and he did great coming in last sunday…. mate i dont make this shiza up.

    “We have a lot of faith in him,” center Olin Kreutz said to the Chicago Sun-Times. “He’s a strong guy. He comes in there and he comes to work. He is a hell of a team player.” Hmmmm weird… sounds like this could of also came from any of the Hawks O line.

    Bottom line is… and this is to all the SA “i’ve got a shrine in my bathroom dedicated to SA” fans…. He’s NOT the same guy as he was in 2005 so until he’s 100% healthy.. hell i’ll give him 90% healthy, he’s not going to be as good as MoMo is when MoMo is 100% healthy (which btw he’s not at the moment still nursing a sore knee).

    I’m tired of reading these comments on “if SA was in there he’d do way better then Mo did” and “take away all of Mo’s big gains and you have crap” ALl of your points are dumbfounded and completly insane.

    Point is so simple, MOmO is a better back in this “new” O that hawks have brought back.

    Say what you wish to me, but remember, I was defending SA all last year, and even drafted him in my fantasy league this year…..

  16. RichmondHawk says:

    [quote]Bottom line is, Mo’s a third down back at best. Holmy knew that things weren’t working with the o-line and Mo is not a feature back; hence, the switch to the passing game.
    [/quote]

    What’s the matter you can’t read?

    Nice for you do blindly omit my mention of the offensive line. Yes your credibility is in question.

  17. RichmondHawk says:

    [quote]ALSO my lil theory i threw out about 3 weeks ago that O line doesnt like blocking for SA cause he doesnt work hard and they like to block for MO cause he does work hard… i think this is more true after hearing the same thing come from CHI’s O line not liking to block for Benson who was having a worse year then SA was…. yet they like to block for Adrian Peterson and he did great coming in last sunday…. mate i dont make this shiza up.
    [/quote]

    This is crazy…where do you come up with this stuff? Fact is they can’t block for either it has nothing do if they WANT to block for a certain back it their ef’in job. No but sorry didn’t mean to interrupt your Mo is the second coming of Earl Campbell rant.

    [quote]Bottom line is… and this is to all the SA “i’ve got a shrine in my bathroom dedicated to SA” fans…. He’s NOT the same guy as he was in 2005 so until he’s 100% healthy.. hell i’ll give him 90% healthy, he’s not going to be as good as MoMo is when MoMo is 100% healthy (which btw he’s not at the moment still nursing a sore knee).[/quote]

    Yes please show up Qwest next game so we can your ass out of there.

    Fact is, which obviously you missed for some reason, any RB with a broken wirst isn’t 100%. Remember he did have a 200 yard game last year with a bummed ankle and came up huge in Chicago. Sorry I don’t live in fantasy world where Mo could’ve done that.

  18. RichmondHawk says:

    [quote]next victim.. regis i mean richmondHawk…[/quote]

    Thanks Kathy Lee, I least I’m not he one wearing the dress.

    :)

  19. gravy_for_tea seems to think we’re the same person. This is because he has no valid arguments for his SA-hater-bs, so he’s decided he has to make jokes. Then he multi-posts “fact is…” bs as though what he writes are real facts.

    Fact is, bullsh*t.

    Want a prediction? Here we go. SA will play against a tougher run-d than MoMo has. He will basically get the same numbers as MoMo has against weaker defenses. SA-haters will ignore Philly’s better ability at run-d than the stellar teams MoMo has faced (all 20th or worse) and try to portray the fact that SA did the same as MoMo as a valid argument to bench him.

    You get more success with 2 weapons than you do with only 1 and MoMo’s wearing thin after 3 whole games starting. If SA is good enough to play, use him. And if wavy_gravy doesn’t like the fact that he’s not getting 200 yards a game for his fantasy team, too f*cking bad.

  20. The real question is that given Philly’s blitz package, does Alexander provide the blocking on pass plays they will need to succeed? If he can’t (or won’t) pick up those blitzing LB’s then they will have a long game. My guess is that Holmgren gives him one or two chances to prove that he can do that and if he fails then his knee is going to “flare up”.

  21. tezzer21 says:

    The onus is on HOLMGREN to do the right thing with Shaun and Momo. Half the time it is Holmgren who is either too stubborn or too conservative to deal properly with Shaun. I say, give SA a shot…sitting out watching Momo might have been just the Rx for him…maybe he will go out there and blow it up. If he gets in and continues to suck, then it will be up to Holmgren to adjust back to Momo. There’s no reason to think that the Hawks aren’t actually in a stronger position now, with the pass game and two able runners. Maybe we can really confuse the opposition if it is done correctly. I just hope Holmgren doesn’t screw it up….

  22. elperrograndedos says:

    Holmgren is way too soft. He’d stop Shaun from driving the boat at about 100 feet … that would be 100 feet under the surface and still sinking … Holmgren is a moron …

  23. JerseyHawk12 says:

    Long time reader, lifelong Hawks fan & first time poster.

    I believe Shaun was running for a new contract in 2005. And he got it. This drop in production happens all too often when a player gets a monster contract.

    Bill Parcells said on ESPN that teams are nuts to give RBs big contracts since the lifespan of most RBs is about 3-4 yrs. He called it a disposable position and pointed to the success that New England & Denver have had with a host of different RBs. Its more of the system being successful than the player itself.

    Shaun doesn’t hit the hole hard. Too many times he tries to string the play along to the sideline and loses yardage.

    I say keep Shaun but draft a new kid very high in the draft. If next year Shaun is not very productive then cut his carries and eventually cut him. Maybe we can luck out with a Jones-Drew type of back

  24. JerseyHawk12 says:

    Sorry Perro….but Holmgren is considered a genius in the NFL. I’m certain ANY team would love to have a coach of his caliber. We’re lucky to have him. What I do think is that he is sometimes too conservative. You won’t get the trick play from Mike.

    But as far as planning, coaching and an offensive scheme he is at the top or very near the top in the league.

  25. mibuttiznum says:

    Everyone who can’t read between the lines on Shaun’s comments are retarded. It’s pretty obvious.

  26. elperrograndedos says:

    Alexander meets the pressPosted by Darrin Beene @ 06:24:50 pm

    Here are some quotes from Shaun Alexander’s post-practice press conference:

    On resuming practice: Darrin, here, can you help me up from my chair. You know God told me that I should never have to get up on my own. That is why I want you to help me. "Today was exciting. I’m blessed, God told me so, you know. I could have Christmas a little bit earlier than everybody, but, of course, I am a Jehovah Witness.

    On if he feels fresh: "Yeah, you know, after I lie down toward the end of a play, I wait for a lineman to come by and pick me up. That saves me a lot of energy.”

    On how it felt missing practice time: "It’s one of those things. You know I haven’t really been playing this year anyhow, I mean, I haven’t been hit by the other team since week one because I have mastered the art of falling down right before the defender reaches me. I don’t think anything really changes this week”.

    On if his injuries are healed: "God will heal me, He told me so, He just didn’t tell me when”.

    On the new pass-first offense: "We’re 3-0 the last three games so whatever we’re doing is working so we’re just going to keep on rolling. And I expect to have an even bigger role, since I can’t pass block or catch a pass, this is the perfect offense for me".

    On what his role will be in upcoming games: "I do what I do, I am the man on this team, and they can not win without me, those last 3 games were obviously flukes”.

    On Maurice Morris continuing to get playing times: "You know, sometimes Mike just calls running plays, and that scares me. It increases the chances of me getting hit or hurt. That’s when I like to take myself out and let Mo have a few carries."

    On his knee: "Off the record here, and just between you and me, there is nothing wrong with my knee. I’m just a pu$$y."

  27. elgranderojo says:

    I honestly feel this is a one game audition for Shaun to see if he’ll get to play much, if at all the rest of the year. He was hurt/benched for Morris and Mo performed fairly well. I think Holmgren was trying to light a little fire in Shaun. We’ll see how he reacts. If Shaun doesn’t deliver the goods I really, really hope he is benched for good. Personally, I think he is done… if 2/3 of the fans booing him can’t motivate him, benching (called an injury when he probably could have played) him won’t do it either.

  28. RichmondHawk says:

    [quote]Shaun doesn’t hit the hole hard. Too many times he tries to string the play along to the sideline and loses yardage.
    [/quote]

    That’s pretty funny you just relized he does that?

    He had the same style in 2005 and got huge numbers the only difference is this year is he’s playing with a broken wrist. So, you have to excuse him because he can’t stiff arm guys with a broken wrist and he has tuck that hand away on every collision. Its beyond me how fans don’t know this or choose to ignore it.

    Its tough enough playing against 11 extremely strong guys who want to take a piece out of you but when you break you wrist it shouldn’t effect you?

  29. mibuttiznum says:

    it shouldn’t allow you to be on the field if you are only half-armed.
    I wouldn’t go into a gunfight with only 3 bullets in a six-shooter.
    Why should he even play if he’s not healthy? His pride and such affected the team’s play, and he also hurt himself worse. The big loser in that? US because shaun’s still getting paid, regardless.

  30. RichmondHawk says:

    [quote]I honestly feel this is a one game audition for Shaun to see if he’ll get to play much, if at all the rest of the year. He was hurt/benched for Morris and Mo performed fairly well. I think Holmgren was trying to light a little fire in Shaun. We’ll see how he reacts. If Shaun doesn’t deliver the goods I really, really hope he is benched for good. Personally, I think he is done… if 2/3 of the fans booing him can’t motivate him, benching (called an injury when he probably could have played) him won’t do it either. [/quote]

    How could he be done? His wrist will never heal?

    That’s what I just don’t get from the site people always miss the obvious.

    Lets see the offensive line sucks and he has a broken wrist so his lack of production has only to do because he’s over the hill?

    Holmy is probably sitting SA longer than should be because he knows just like every game this year the offensive line suck and the cast isn’t coming off till around the playoffs. I don’t how you read into it more than that.

  31. RichmondHawk says:

    So, what he’s suppose to be wuss and say he can’t play?

    That’s not for him to decide. Holmy and the coaching staff has full control over that situation.

    I just don’t see why you’re pinning it SA. I actually respect players who will play hurt, show more dedication and heart but he always runs out of bounds and smiles so he can’t have that.

  32. Section317represents says:

    ElPerroGrandeDos
    cram
    (First two idiotic posters at the top of this column)

    Welcome to the crowded pantheon of online morons. You post comments 20 min. after the blog story so you can have your crap at the top of the screen.

    I think “ElPerroGrandeDos” and “cram” suck. They are terrible posters and have no game. I hate them. They are over-rated and dumb. I am tired of their worn out exuses.

    I can only hope that noone forms an opinion based on your crap when there are so many other posters that can actually watch the games and think at the same time.

  33. antediluvian says:

    I still find it amazing that to some, anyone who questions SA’s ability to make this team better is a “hater” I spent years defending SA in the Seahawks group on Usenet against those who ALWAYS thought he hit the hole too slowly. I remember watching a guy in Alabama absolutely tear up opposing defenses. I’m not so old I can’t remember 2005 when the Hawks converted all but one 3-and-1 plays. I remember watching SA near the goal line be truly unstoppable. You can’t argue with his past production. But as they say on Wall Street, past performance does not predict future performance.

    Take a look at now. SA’s a 30 year old running back. It is a fact that once running backs reach age 30 in the NFL, nearly all of them suffer a tremendous decline in performance. The fact that SA is showing that as well, does not diminish what he’s done for this team in the past and his standing in Seahawks history. He is the best RB the Hawks have ever had on their roster….absolutely.

    But he is in the twilight of his career. And if you can’t see that, you need to take off your rose colored glasses.

    No one…I repeat, no one, has said that Morris is a great running back. But it’s awefully hard at this point to say Morris is not more effective that Alexander in the system that Holmgren is currently deploying. If you disagree, fine. But it would be nice if you can point out how Alexander is going to be able to catch with a cast. Heck, he couldn’t catch without a cast. And you can’t just conveniently ignore that. It’s part of the package. Same holds true with blocking.

  34. elperrograndedos says:

    Section 317 is the top of the Bank of America Tower, and hence it is hard to see from up there …

  35. RichmondHawk says:

    Nobody’s denying that SA is getting older but when people ignore that they is playing with a cast. Then flat out say the problem with SA’s production this year is because he’s taking it easy and too old well that’s a different story.

    I guess I should know better because its the same guys who called Ruskell an idiot for drafting a smallish LB out of usc. What is it recently? Oh yeah “Kerney was a bum and Ruskell blew that one”. We all know how that’s working out.

    Now they’re on to “SA is over the hill” and the the cast has nothing to do with it argument. Judge the guy when the cast comes off that’s all I’m saying.

  36. montanahawk says:

    You guys that fight amongst yourselves should start your own blog. Sifting through some of this Bullsh… rubble is becoming a pain.

    I fear you’ll squeeze out the more intelligent input from long time Insider readers that have something worth while to read.

  37. stumptownhawk says:

    Personally I get a real kick out of the SA controversy. All the posts are very entertaining. EPGD your ‘gods will’ posts are priceless.

    And look, to all the folks who say that not wanting to play SA means you are a SA ‘hater’ -please – this is not a charity event. Just because the guy was 2005 MVP does not mean we own loyalty and a job to an underperformer until he does not feel like playing anymore. If I stopped making money for my company – stopped showing up and giving effort – do you think they would keep me? Anyone? Would people say “hey he did great in 2005, leave him alone”. The answer is No. There is no hating of underperformers, there is just moving on to someone who is better. And what a man did 2 years ago is irrelevant. All the touchy feely types need to understand that this isn’t or shouldn’t be an emotional decision. It is based on Merit. If you can’t get that concept then please don’t ever coach the Seahawks ’cause I for one love watching them win!!!!

    Go Hawks!!

  38. RichmondHawk says:

    [quote]If I stopped making money for my company – stopped showing up and giving effort – do you think they would keep me? Anyone?[/quote]

    I hear you. You’re poor and you wish you had SA money could agree with you more. I can see where all the hate is coming from how.

    But seriously here’s a man with all the answers and no solution. So, what you’re trying to say is the bogus offensive line and broken wrist has nothing to do it with it he’s just under achieving? Yup the football acumen on this blog just went down a notch.

  39. As mentioned above, and I agree, Sunday is a one game audition for Shaun. We’ll all be watching closely and this includes the coach the only eyes that really matter. If we see missed block(s), dropped passes or holes not exploited to ther full potential I think he gets yanked and at very least the media will be on Holmgren after the game (this means you Frank) big time.

    Richmond- you brought up the fact that Mo benefits from the new emphasis on passing that our offense has shown of late. I agree, he has but Shaun has always been a beneficiary of either a great line (’05) or Matts propensity to surprise defenses with draws or off tackle runs.

    Shaun as a full on featured back in a mostly conventional offense, (until recently) with the defense expecting the run is an ugly affair as we all saw earlier this year.

  40. PapaHawk says:

    I believe this next game will reveal a lot about Holmgren and Shaun. I just hope that the game unfolds in such a way that allows both MoMo and Shaun to be utilized in the running game. As long as we aren’t in a hole early, we’ll be able to do it. Anything we can do to get a quick start will be helpful.

  41. RichmondHawk says:

    ochawk,

    I don’t think its an audition. If SA’s back, he starts point blank. Holmy’s the coach and I know that he would do it that way. As far as going back to the same offensive plan as before, I don’t think its going to happen; hence, SA will get less snaps. But he will get most of the work load unless it calls for Mo on certain situations.

    Mark my words, there is not audition he is the guy, regardless. Look how crappy the o-line has played and Holmy hasn’t pulled anybody.

    Bottom line is I don’t expect SA to be effective until the cast comes off but he will do a lot better job than Mo in most situations. Blocking situations and catching the ball Mo should go in because of the cast.

  42. stumptown – I agree 100%. Anyone who takes these blog posts with any sort of seriousness (which a lot seem to do) needs to get a life. Many of these posts are hilarious, some by design, many by being ludicrous.

  43. As long as Shaun blocks effectively and doesn’t drop passes, I’ll support him. Mo is not great, but he blocks, catches, and runs hard. If Shaun could do those things well I could stomach him getting the majority of carries.
    But we are all in agreement, are we not, that it is imperative that the Hawks either through the draft or free agency get a quality back. The window of Shaun Alexander is closing rapidly.

  44. elgranderojo says:

    antediluvian, well said.

    Richmondhawk, I will agree with you on one point, Shaun would probably get similar or slightly better yardage than Mo when running draws and using mostly 3 and 4 WR sets. The problem is he can’t catch and his blocking is suspect. So everytime he is on the field is the play a run? Because if it’s a pass your basically playing with 10 men.

    Also, Frank made a post about how much we punt compared to our ranking as a team. I agree Holmgren’s conserative nature has something to do with it… and so does being in 2nd and 12. Poor first down play results in more punts. Shaun is notorious for losing yards on first down rather than making it 2nd and 9. The point is, I think Shaun is also one of the reason we punt a lot.

  45. bulldog80 says:

    Richmond, You are making me sick with all of this oline sucks stuff. You keep stating the obvious. We know the oline isn’t playing well and hasn’t all year. The issue is that even with the bad oline, we are winning with Mo and losing with SA. And exactly how would SA have benifitted from this change to a pass happy offense like you’ve been saying? Dude, SA CAN’T CATCH and he can barely block. He couldn’t do either even before he was injured. How much value do you think he has with our current offense?

    Also, WE KNOW HE HAS A CAST. That’s why he shouldn’t be playing. Your SA puppy love is clouding your judgment.

  46. GeorgeOhWell says:

    Quite a p_ _ _ _ _ _ match going on here. I’d have to say Ante and Jersey put it right in the tea cup. Carry on lads.

  47. stumptownhawk says:

    Bulldog –

    It is nice to hear clear thinking.

    Richmond: your not fooling anyone, I know you are really SA’s mom. I don’t blame you, I wouldn’t like people hammering on my son either. Maybe you should look away until it is all over.

  48. ballgame says:

    IMO I think to many people are using past and current performaces to make their point. I’m seeing a lot of Shaun can’t run anymore and he can’t block. The fact is Shaun was/is doing a much better job of blitz pick up this year compared to his past years and I think he was doing a better job than Morris in that area. He did a great job in the Clev game. I still don’t understand how Shaun coming back is a bad thing. If anything we now have 2 backs that have proven they can run the football when the D isn’t stacking 8 in the box, which they can’t do any more with the passing game we have going right now. If anything we have 2 backs with different strenghts that again IMO complement each other so now we can call plays to both of their strenghts instead of have 1 back and having to deal with their weaknesses.

  49. Does Shawn still have a cast on? If so I do not think he should play.

  50. The day SA is no longer a Hawk, the amount of posts on this blog will drop by about 75%. Then posting can begin anew about how Hutch’s departure was the downfall of the organization and who was to blame.

  51. JimWilke says:

    I swear I saw Shaun on the sidelines of the Chicago game without a cast.

  52. Section317represents says:

    What makes moron posters (reference the top two posts on this column)like “ElPerroGrandeDos” and “cram” a moron is their mindless, substance free blasts . They are crap posters and the day they leave the Forum is much anticipated.

    I do enjoy the intelligently explained critiques of SA. They are rare, however. Mostly I read blither about his personal faith or his effort.

    I have yet to read how defenses that have to drop linebackers back as we pick them apart with passes will simultanously be able to run blitz. SA will flourish as a part time decoy and runner of draw plays.

  53. navy_at_3 says:

    yup O line can’t block, Momo can’t score TD’s (one was a draw play… but the O line still had to block) and momo can’t break lose for 40+ yards on one play. O line can’t block allowing momo to have a decent 4.2ypc on the season, 4.1 in the last three games.

    Yup your 100% right O line can’t block.

    SA was 2 years ago mate, let it go. As long *sigh* as long as he is not 100% healthy he’s a liability to the team and NOT an assit. Suppose we will see this sunday.

    You can’t read, i did say i hope he does well. When he’s healthy he is better then MoMO. geesh.

    jimwilke.. he was wearing a hoodie…. was hard to tell but you might be right. I think i read the cast smaller cast he’s been wearing is mainly to prevent further cracking and or a full break (which would heal faster… hmmmm :P ) It is possible he wasnt wearing it. Hell i’d probably opt to take it off too if i wasnt playing.

  54. navy_at_3 says:

    numbskull i TOLD you where i got it from….

    Comment by RichmondHawk @ 02:28 – Thursday, November 29th, 2007 [quote]ALSO my lil theory i threw out about 3 weeks ago that O line doesnt like blocking for SA cause he doesnt work hard and they like to block for MO cause he does work hard… i think this is more true after hearing the same thing come from CHI’s O line not liking to block for Benson who was having a worse year then SA was…. yet they like to block for Adrian Peterson and he did great coming in last sunday…. mate i dont make this shiza up.
    [/quote]

    This is crazy…where do you come up with this stuff?

    “”We have a lot of faith in him,” center Olin Kreutz said to the Chicago Sun-Times. “He’s a strong guy. He comes in there and he comes to work. He is a hell of a team player.”” this is about CHI’s other vetern rb, A. Peterson.

  55. navy_at_3 says:

    “Yes please show up Qwest next game so we can your ass out of there.

    Fact is, which obviously you missed for some reason, any RB with a broken wirst isn’t 100%. Remember he did have a 200 yard game last year with a bummed ankle and came up huge in Chicago. Sorry I don’t live in fantasy world where Mo could’ve done that. ”

    WOW richmondHawk you catch on quickly….. you yourself said he’s not 100% healthy.. so wtf are all of you saying he’s still better then MoMo for and should be starting/playing?

    Dumbarse, that chicago game you speak of was in playoffs, divisonal playoffs. SA had 108 yards on 26 carries. He WAS 100% healthy at that time with NO cracked bones in the ankle. Thats why he took games off in the season to let that heal. THATS why i’ve said he should be sitting out until he’s healed (in time for the playoffs one would hope for).

    BTW when did he have that awsome 200+ rushing yard game? or were you talking about total yards (rushing/receiving)?

    In last years wild card he only had 69yards on 24 carries.
    I already mentioned the playoff game against chicago so maybe you were talking about the reg. season game with chicago last year….

    hmmm nope SA wasnt playing that was a weak after he cracked a bone in his foot. Mo had his first career start and had 35 yards on 11 carries. if you remember, we lost 6-37.

    AHHHH i finally found his 201 rushing yard game… problem is, it wasnt against CHI, it was against GB. STAT wise he looked like the 2005 NFL MVP with 201 yards rushing, 0 td’s (oh well) and a nice 5.0 ypc. He carried the ball for a really high 40 attempts. It was his second game back after missing 6 games (+ a bye week). Hawks won that game, 34-24.

    So SA was back, next game he posted 90 yards, 3.5ypc and 1TD. The game from his return he posted 37 yards, 2.2ypc and 0TD’s but he was sharing reps with Momo. Still, 2.2ypc? btw he ony had two 100+ rushing games last year compared to his 11 100+ yard games in 2005. (sure you say O line and ok O line was worse last year… but they were alot worse (is that a word? lmao sorry) they were crap last year. This year, he has posted 2 100+ rushing yard games. Other then that MoMo has posted more yards per game when starting then SA has. SA’s next most yards was 78 on 25 attempts (3.1ypc). That was in week 4 right after he posted a cool 100 yards on 21 attempts 4.8ypc… it was all down hill after that averaging just 2.35 ypc since then where Mo has posted 4.1. And you tell me that SA is a better back when not healthy then Momo is healthy. whatever mate.

    BTW SA’s ypc dropped from 5.1 in the 2005 season to 3.6 last year to 3.3 thus far this year.

  56. navy_at_3 says:

    lol you crack me up Regis

    Comment by Regis @ 03:49 – Thursday, November 29th, 2007 gravy_for_tea seems to think we’re the same person. This is because he has no valid arguments for his SA-hater-bs, so he’s decided he has to make jokes. Then he multi-posts “fact is…” bs as though what he writes are real facts.

    Fact is, bullsh*t.

    Want a prediction? Here we go. SA will play against a tougher run-d than MoMo has. He will basically get the same numbers as MoMo has against weaker defenses. SA-haters will ignore Philly’s better ability at run-d than the stellar teams MoMo has faced (all 20th or worse) and try to portray the fact that SA did the same as MoMo as a valid argument to bench him.

    never once did i ever say “i hate SA” infact it was the opposite. I said i liked the back… but… he’s injured and useless as he can’t block for matt, he cant catch with cast and he can’t run hard (never has ran hard which means being a north south runner, not a east west runner… you do know what that means right?).

    Regis your just butt hurt because someone was bold enough to give you the hard cold facts… SA can’t perform well when injured like he is and im just talking about the cast. So wtf would you be putting a guy that can’t perform well in against the 7th ranked D called philly for?

    ALso i never once said MOMO is a better back then SA healthy. But you’ll neglect to read this part…. again as yes i have to multi post it because you NEVER read it. Momo lacks vision which comes with experience. MoMO didnt get a chance to start in 2005 when MATT was carring the team to a SB. SA has MVP experience… MoMo doesnt. SO is it completly fair for you to say that i think MoMo is better then SA?

    Here’s a prediction, REGIS will ignore (if it happens) ANYTHING that MoMo does against a tougher D which you yourself pointed out. IF MoMo gets a TD it will be because SA got them to the red zone right? IF MOMO gets more yards per carry it will be because “take away his long gain and he has crap bs” SA has the same ability and chances to break off a long gain as MoMo does!

    But for now, we will see. I honestly hope SA does well… but it’s not realistic with a cast on his hand and Hawks running to the left 75% of the times.

  57. navy_at_3 says:

    Comment by iqbal70 @ 06:40 – Thursday, November 29th, 2007 The real question is that given Philly’s blitz package, does Alexander provide the blocking on pass plays they will need to succeed? If he can’t (or won’t) pick up those blitzing LB’s then they will have a long game. My guess is that Holmgren gives him one or two chances to prove that he can do that and if he fails then his knee is going to “flare up”.

    shhhhh dont say stuff like that… the SA fan base is here. and this makes you a SA hater… dont want that here.

  58. navy_at_3 says:

    Comment by tezzer21 @ 07:15 – Thursday, November 29th, 2007 The onus is on HOLMGREN to do the right thing with Shaun and Momo. Half the time it is Holmgren who is either too stubborn or too conservative to deal properly with Shaun. I say, give SA a shot…sitting out watching Momo might have been just the Rx for him…maybe he will go out there and blow it up. If he gets in and continues to suck, then it will be up to Holmgren to adjust back to Momo. There’s no reason to think that the Hawks aren’t actually in a stronger position now, with the pass game and two able runners. Maybe we can really confuse the opposition if it is done correctly. I just hope Holmgren doesn’t screw it up….

    Your right… but if he continues to suck… it will be because Philly is a tougher D then MoMo has ever faced… so we will have to give SA another chance against AZ, then with BAL, then with…… see where this is going.

  59. navy_at_3 says:

    ElPerroGrandeDos

    LOL good one EL… thanks for the laugh.

    No regis and richmond and anyone else, this doesnt make me a SA hater… it makes me someone who can laugh at something comical… which it is.

  60. navy_at_3 says:

    RichmondHawk

    YES he did string along the run… after the Pass was established and the D had backed off the line oh yeah and he was 2 years younger, a 4th year starter should i continue? Each year the D gets faster and smarter and EVERYONE knows SA will do this where in 2005 everyone was caught by surprise… there is also a guy named Walter whom SA ran behind…and a younger first time pro bowler in Mack Strong. All three of these players have aged and lost a step. Now when SA strings along the run, it takes 5 seconds before he either makes up his mind, or is tackled. He’s slower now. You can’t string along the run when your slow.

  61. navy_at_3 says:

    lol GeorgeOhWell thanks mate :D

  62. elperrograndedos says:

    Does anyone know if you are required to wear one of those orange balls on piece of wire in Section 317 as a way to warn off low flying aircraft?

  63. Welcome to the “gravy_for_pee” network. No need for anyone to post…gravy will tell you all what to think…15 posts in a row. :P

    MoMo won’t face a tougher defense. That’s the whole point. The only way he could is if he starts the Baltimore game, which isn’t likely. San Fran, Chicago, and St Louis are all 20+ ranked against the run. Philly is 7th. As usual, MoMo gets the easy defense and you’ll be trying to make a case against Shaun. The blatant hypocrisy cracks me up.

    Shaun with cast is equal to or better than MoMo. Use him.

  64. stumptownhawk says:

    Some of you – i.e. Regis and Richmond need to get a better tv, or glasses or something. Shaun with a cast equal to or better than MoMo? Really? And don’t try to say – no you get a better tv because my season tickets are row 2, behind the hawks so I see pretty darn good.

    Think of your logic: We (the folks who do not enjoy the idea of SA getting a lot of carries) support our team but think that a different combination of backs works better and because of that we HATE Sa. I guess follwing that same logic you are MoMo and Weaver HATERS – right?

    Navy: don’t let them get to you, anyone that can fire out posts like you do is ok in my book.

    Anyone have the stat on how many quarterbacks our D has knocked out of the game this year. I know I saw Garcia, Smith and Bulger – any others? Not that I like seeing guys get hurt but I think this qualifies us as a ‘physical team’

  65. My logic starts with the fact that MoMo has never been more than a backup. If he were, we would never have known who Shaun Alexander is. When people start rooting for him over Shaun, I have to wonder at their motives. When words like “overpaid”, “prima donna”, etc. come out, I can pretty much guess their motives. When people like navy cut to personal attacks, can’t make their point in one post, and/or just act like a jerk, I don’t even bother. If you think the snide sh*t is funny, fine, just don’t complain when it’s directed at you.

    Weaver is our projected future fullback. He should be in to help block and to pound the rock when it’s 3rd and short, as Mack used to do. I was screaming at the tv last week when they kept using MoMo for 3rd and short instead of Weaver…he’s got the bulk and strength to force the 1st down that MoMo doesn’t…and it cost us. They finally called his number when we had 1st & goal and he bulled his way in in one try. If he can catch out of the backfield as well, so much the better (we could trade MoMo ;-p).

    Don’t forget we also have Pearman out on IR this year.

    As for QBs, no others that I know of…unless we had something to do with Lienart after we played in AZ.

  66. bandito1o says:

    Navy I agree with your point but do you you have to repost every word as if reading it the first time wasn’t bad enough??? sheesh…

  67. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    ok guys and girls, here is a way shaun playing mite work. mo and shaun in backfeild together pro set formation(for those of you who don’t know this is side by side backs)either can run mo is there to catch or fake the pass run a delayed draw to shaun. this also works with weaver,the great part with this play is it’s already in the play book. think on this, shaun is in with weaver keep both in to block bleed weaver out into the flat 10-20 yards.

    we don’t have to get personal on here and talking trash does no good except for entertainment purposes. i just gave everybody something that would work.

    regis. what if shaun goes out and just plain stinks it up, is that then just the eagles D? get a grip shaun works for running but at this point is a 1/3 reciever he drops more then he catches and even on the running game until he heals is suspect.

  68. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    regis so what i think you are saying is this; if shaun and mo get equal carries and mo has 2x the production plus more recieving yards and no dropped balls shaun is still better?

  69. hawks4372 says:

    Stop being surprised about the segment of cavepeople that think SA is still a football player. As long as a quarter of the country insists prez Bush is doing a good job, it can’t be a surprise that an equal segment of dolts think SA is anything more than a cheerleaser sans pompoms (and a spine). He plays, we lose, and the team dry cleaner once again has to deal with pee-stained pants.

    Counting the days until she gets cut.

  70. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    4372, see this is exactly what im talking about, healthy shaun can still work in this O in a diminished roll, hopefully with a reworked contract.

  71. elgranderojo says:

    hawks4372, that was freakin’ hilarious.

    I also saw that someone had the answer to all of our running problems… and that is waiting until Alvin Pearman returns next year. hmmm… maybe not… although he is probably about the same as Morris.

    I really hate to say it, but Shaun is done. If you want to see him be a good running back again go find some old highlight clips because it won’t happen anymore.

  72. navy_at_3 says:

    bandito1o

    Navy I agree with your point but do you you have to repost every word as if reading it the first time wasn’t bad enough??? sheesh…

    lol ok i did that this time as a joke :P smile, relax.. it’s going to be sunny today (before the snow then strong winds kick in).

    Sorry bandito1o… see the problem is, in the military i work nights. Get off work at 2am… come home and see all the posts… and because i can, i respond to them. Now im a logical simple guy…. i feel if i didnt repost the person’s im responding too… how would anyone know what im talking about (no comment needed regis)?

    Sorry if this bugs you mate. This blog would be alot better if it had a quote function.

  73. navy_at_3 says:

    oh yeah sorry.. not to mention the blog would be even better if each comment was numbered in order… that way we could say #32 … your right that is smart.

    Hawkfan great idea. Hawks do use the split back formation alot anyways. They usually come out lined up in that, then matt will audible them into i formation or near/far formation. Your idea sparked one of my own… how good is MoMo’s or SA’s or even Weaver’s arm? could you see a play that calls for them to attempt a pass? Probably not with the way Holmey’s game plan goes… but … hmmm… could be interesting right?

  74. navy_at_3 says:

    I was impressed by this back called pearman in the preseason. Then again… it was just preaseason.

    LMAO pee-stained pants… now that’s comedy!

  75. So…navy_at_3 is hawkfaninoklahoma. He writes 15 posts to himself, then responds 30 times.

  76. Hey navy_at_3, thanks for the warning. I was trying to provide some reasoned analysis from my limited perspective, but it doesn’t appear that is what people expect from this blog any longer.

  77. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    regis you crack me up, i give you bone a give a possible way that an un-healthy alexander would work and you say i am someone else,lol. in 05 70% of our run plays were run out of a pro set no maybe 30%, if you want i will go back and look at the numbers a verify it exactly? i hope shaun plays well hell i hope he plays great however he can’t hold the ball in his left hand can’t catch and can’t block leading with the broken hand.doesnt sound good does it when you look at it that way does it?

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