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Answers to your questions, vol. 54

Post by News Tribune Staff on Nov. 14, 2006 at 12:39 pm with 20 Comments »
November 14, 2006 12:39 pm

LB Lance Laury is one of the rare backups who stands out at practices. He’s always hitting someone. This was most evident in training camp, when they hit in full pads regularly. It was very apparent in the game Sunday, as our readers have noted (1, 2). That was Laury blasting Isaiah Kacyvenski on the return team. I didn’t see it very well during the game, but the replays were incredible on Fox. Kacyvenski’s helmet and/or shoulders were the first thing to hit the ground. It was a de-cleater all the way. …

Holmgren does write reminders on his playcards. Many, many coaches do this. “Stick with the run” is one he’ll write on there occasionally. It’s not like those little reminders are what dictate how he calls a game. They are there so that when the bullets are flying, so to speak, he doesn’t lose sight of the big picture. …

Chuck Darby is a pro all the way. That was a great effort Sunday. I think he’s the type of guy who responds when people talk about how the run defense will suffer with Marcus Tubbs out of the lineup. The run defense still might suffer, but Darby has almost always stepped up when needed. The game against the Giants last season was an all-time example of his toughness and drive. He was hurt and actually sneaked back into the game to force a pivotal interception by Eli Manning. …

drmossguy: The questions at press conferences become harder and more pointed when the team is losing. Wording is very important when it comes to asking questions. The goal is to get the best answer, not to ask the question in a way that causes the coach to clam up. As I recall, I asked about the play calling immediately following the game, and Holmgren admitted he regretted calling the receiver pass. I’m not afraid to ask anything. At the same time, I’m not going to be abrasive unless I think it’s the best way to get the information I’m seeking. I do agree that the line of questioning in a press conference can be repetitive and doesn’t always reflect positively on reporters. I can only be responsible for the questions I ask. …

buddhabrad: That was Trufant blocking Looker on the Burleson return, was it not? My thought upon watching the replay was that you had a Tacoma guy (Trufant) clearing out a Puyallup guy (Looker) to free a Renton guy (Burleson). Lots of local angles on that one. It’s a note I would have done for the Tuesday paper had we gotten locker-room access Monday. …

It’s only a horse-collar tackle if the runner is pulled down immediately. …

I’m done talking about Kacyvenski and his departure unless there’s something new to add.

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  1. What’s your analysis of the Seattle rookies at this point?

  2. chuck_easton says:


    I know it’s early in the season to start thinking about this, but am I correct in saying that Seattle is the #2 seed in the NFC right now?

    I base this on the NFL rules for tie breakers. There are three teams at 6-3, Seattle, NYG, and N.O. First tie breaker is head to head, so we move ahead of the Giants. We did not play N.O. so the second tie breaker is Division record. Seattle is 3-0 and N.O. is 3-1.

    Would this be accurate?

  3. PhilKenSebben says:

    Stew: Plackers is a shoe-in for rookie of the year.

  4. chuck,

    When it’s a three way tie, i believe the head to head is irrelevant. The rankings of NYG, NO and Seattle would be completely based off of their conference records (unless there is another tie). If there’s a tie, i think they then go with either strength of schedule or winning percentage of the teams they’ve beaten.

    So theoritically, if NYG had a better conference record than we did, they would be ranked higher than us, regardless of the fact that we beat (some might even say dominated) them.

    I remember this was important a couple years ago when the ‘Hawks could have been in a potential three way tie with Dallas and another team (Green Bay?) if we lost our final game (which i think we did not)

    Sorry i’m not citing anything, this is simply from memory, so i could be wrong about a couple small details

  5. Plackers? Are you talking about Plackemeier. LOL. He is one bad game away from the unemployment line from what I can tell. What Holmgren is looking for is consistency (which he has said time and time again) and he has been terrible in that regard. He can really boom it, infortunately he only seems to do that when he is trying to drop it inside the 20 yard line.

  6. HawkFromDay1 says:

    Every time I saw Chuck Darby ripping around in that game I kept thinkin of Rod Marinell’s line “Oh man, I love Shorty.”

    Someone needs to get a #91 jersey that says “LUV SHORTY” on the back.

  7. I nearly posted information on the NFC standings last night, but the league needs to straighten out information on its Web site. They currently have Seattle fourth in the NFC without taking into account the victory over the Giants. They tell me they are fixing this, but the incorrect standings are still online at this time. The league’s tiebreaking procedures are worded poorly, in my view. I’ll post the information when I know it is correct. As for the three-way-tie criteria and whether it applies to Sea/NO/NYG, I’ll have that too. The league’s potentially incorrect standings are here:

  8. dcrockett17 says:

    I had a chance to see a good bit of Laury here at S. Carolina. He’s definitely a hitter and very fast. His profile is not unlike D.D. Lewis’ except that he joined the team with far deeper talent at LB than the team Lewis signed with as an undrafted free agent.

  9. Last year I would always wonder why Mike Holmgren was never on the NFL Networks show “Coach Speak”. (A run down of coach press conferences around the league)

    Yes, I will listen to each and every conference that he has. But I often miss half of it because I fall asleep on my keyboard. The only thing I get out of his speeches are the up to the minute injury reports.

    He is pretty boring. He doesn’t get mad. He doesn’t raise his voice. Even when he is mad, the only thing that happens is that his face gets all red, but yet he still speaks in a mono-tone voice.

    I wish they had a mic on him during the game. That’s is where he would make a lot of money. That, and he needs to dressed up like Clinton Portis did last year.

  10. We should be 3rd in Conference Rankings…


    1. Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild-Card tie breakers. As an example, if two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to step one of the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins the tie breaker, all other clubs revert to step 1 of the applicable two-club or three-club format.
    2. In comparing division and conference records or records against common opponents among tied teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor since teams may have played an unequal number of games.
    3. To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.
    4. To determine home-field priority for Wild-Card qualifiers, apply division tie breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild-Card tie breakers (if teams are from different Divisions).

    It’s rule 3 that applies here…for Conference Rankings, the Wild-Card tie breaking procedures are used. Here’s the list:

    Three or More Clubs
    (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
    1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
    2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in conference games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    12. Coin toss

    Procedure 1 – This is skipped since it doesn’t apply.

    Procedure 2 – There’s no way to apply the Head-To-Head at this point. The Giants *will* play the Saints, but not until Christmas Eve, so there’s no point considering it now.

    Procedure 3 – The next tie-breaker is Conference Record. The Saints win that at 5-1, the Giants & Seahawks are both 5-2. That puts the Saints at #2 and leaves a tie with just the Giants & Seahawks. At that point, the tie-breaking procedure goes back to the start for the remaining teams…

    Procedure 1 – Again, this gets skipped.

    Procedure 2 – With just the Giants & Seahawks, the Head-to-Head *does* apply. We won that game, so we get #3 and they end up #4.

    So, as things stand now, we would be #3 and hosting the #5 team in the Wild-Card Round. Provided we win (why bother otherwise ;), we would go to New Orleans for the Divisional Round.

    Possible ways to get the #2 Spot (over the Saints):

    1) Better overall record
    2) Tie with better NFC Record
    3) Tie overall & NFC records, win more common games (Win/Loss % of combined TB, NYG, GB & SF games)

  11. I think Seattle is third in the conference right now –

    of the 6-3 teams,
    – no team has a head to head sweep of the other two,
    – NO has a 5-1 conf record => NO #2, two-way tie between SEA and NYG,
    – SEA has a head to head victory over NYG => SEA #3, NYG #4

    I base that on the tie-breaking rules for non-division three-way ties for the wild-card, which are the only ones published that seem to cover seeding teams from different divisions with the same record.

    SEA and NYG have 5 conf games remaining, and NO has 6, one of which is a head to head match up against the NYG, so it’s not possible for all three teams to “win out” – an unlikely possibility in any case.

    If SEA and NYG finish the season tied, SEA will be seeded above them, if SEA and NO finish the season tied, the best conference record will be seeded highest.

    Even if the Seahawks drop games at Denver and against San Diego and finish 11-5, the schedule favors them as the rest of the top half of the NFC will play a round-robin schedule amongst themselves for the remainder of the season, and so they have the clearest shot at the #2 seed (assuming Chicago doesn’t tank.)

  12. Heads up: We have a blog item showing Seattle third.

  13. twisted_steel2 says:


    What’s your opinion of the Leonard Little sack? The one where he caused Seneca to fumble and the Rams to return it for a TD. It looked like a roughing the QB call to me, helmet to helmet. Pretty clear he lowered his helmet and smashed it into the side of Seneca’s helmet. But no call, yet they ref’s seem to be calling every other sack this year.

  14. PapaHawk says:

    I don’t like Leonard “drunk driver” Little. But how else can you hit a guy? Hit seemed normal to me. No malice. If he wanted to spear Wallace he would have gone about that play differently. I can’t stand Little, but the play seemed fine. So did the horse collar play. He wasn’t trying to hurt him, just make the play.

  15. A Seahawks Rookie report card article could be an article idea Mike? Hint hint.

  16. doubledink says:

    I keep thinking of your comment in training camp that the only guy who bottomed out the blocking sleds all the way down the drill was Chuck Darby. You can see the evidence of his power when he hits the line. It was great to see him get the sacks Sunday.

    Just choppin wood, as he would say.

  17. We can’t talk about Hutch… We can’t talk about Weaver… We can’t talk about Kaz… We can’t even talk about Hamdan, since we brought him back…

    Can we whine about Gomez’s release some more?

  18. twisted_steel2 says:

    “I don’t like Leonard “drunk driver” Little. But how else can you hit a guy? Hit seemed normal to me. No malice. If he wanted to spear Wallace he would have gone about that play differently. I can’t stand Little, but the play seemed fine.”

    Watch the play in slow motion(if you have it Tivo’d), as he’s approaching he lowers his helmet and makes contact with the top of his helmet into the side of Seneca’s head. That’s a spear.

    I’m just surprised, apparently this year, any helmet to helmet hit on a QB draws a penalty. But I guess not on that play.

  19. Hey Mike,

    I was reading Dr. Z’s column today, a guy who really has a good read on O-line play, and he mentionned that Hutch has just been ok this season and a disappointment. I was wondering what your thoughts were on the positive impact having Walter Jones next to him all those years might have had? It’s often said that guard positions are not an area to spend big on and is it possible Jone’s dominance at LT actually made Hutch appear better then he actually is?

  20. joemamma says:

    I didn’t know that it was Kaz that he hit- wish I could find that video somewhere, ought to be on youtube…..

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