Comments on: Smith, Baird remain undecided on health care vote

By: Jason Fishbeck

Jason Fishbeck — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:22:02 +0000

Great post can you recommend any forums to join?

By: johnesherman

johnesherman — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:46:39 +0000

Pelosi: “We need to pass the health care bill in order to find out what is in it”.

Now that say it all within just a few word as said by a person that knows.

By: moo

moo — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:03:39 +0000

Baird hinted that the latest version of the bill might be more to his liking.

“The legislation that is currently being discussed in the House of Representatives is far different from the bill I voted on in November 2009,” Baird said in a statement released late Friday.

yes, it’s far worse

” It’s possible I vote for the Senate bill and against reconciliation,” Smith said.

Yes, & how much has the health industry “donated” to your coffers, Mr Smith???

These “conservative” Congressmen should be ashamed of themselves. If they cared at all about the American people we’d have single payer SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. Yes, some socialism is a GOOD thing. People’s lives are far more important then corporate profits. Look what Capitalism has gotten us: the Wall Street “Bail Outs”.

By: Reaganomics

Reaganomics — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:43:28 +0000

malaglot, sorry I Kevin’s post addressed to you and thought it was your post.

Kevin my second post was meant for you also.

By: Reaganomics

Reaganomics — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:32:52 +0000

malaglot, so you disagreed with reconciliation when the Republicans did it (supposedly) then tell us why it is a good idea now? If it was wrong then, it is wrong now. My kids like to make the same argument you just made, “well my sister did it, so why can’t I?”. Pretty childish argument.

By: Reaganomics

Reaganomics — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:29:04 +0000

Kevin22262, you can’t be serious. When you look at the debt we have now you have to give Bush, and a (D) controlled legislature some of the credit, but this clown in the White House makes even Reagan look frugal, and this clown is spending it on things that should be done by charity. The government has got to get out of the money giveaway business. The cold war may have been expensive but it also kept a lot of people that wanted to work at work. The only way we beat the soviets was to out spend them. Who is Nobama trying to outspend? Health care reform has got to start by limiting access and curbing malpractice awards. Those two things will lower health care costs to a point where we can seriously consider reforming the system. There is absolutely no reason for us to provide anything but life sustaining case to illegal aliens. And that care needs to be followed by immediate deportation to their country of origin. Attorney’s fees on malpractice claims need to be capped and if a lawsuit is found to be bogus the attorney needs to be held accountable. Blaming the past President is getting pretty old, at some point Pelosi and Nobama are going to have to take responsibility.

By: hreardon

hreardon — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:25:47 +0000

Oh Kevin..
1. We got into this debt hole primarily through entitlement spending and the inability of both parties to control it.
2. The levels of debt brought on by the HC bill will be historic in proportion to our GDP. Not to mention the Medicare cuts assumed by the bill which were never enacted (by both parties). How did the initial Medicare budget predictions work out? Who really believes there is a chance this bill will pay for itself as claimed.
3. Reconcilliation has never been used in this type of massive entitlement spending bill. period.

Healthcare reform yes.. However, we never seem to ask the question “how much can we afford”

By: kevin22262

kevin22262 — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:39:27 +0000

First off…. to john… How do you think wer got in this debt debt hole we are in? Two main reasons are… the reagan admin with cutting taxes and raising spending and then borrowing. And…. bush jr. For the exact same reasons.

How worried were all of you “debt is bad” people (which I agree it is) when reagan, bush and 12 years of repub control of congress were in affect? Not a peep… was it because it was for “national security? (“we have always been at war with east asia”)

Now web… you just spout the right wing talking points which are bunk.

malaglot … sorry, but the repubs have rammed reconciliation down the throats of the Democrats and this country many times. Those HUGE tax breaks… which by the way went to the RICH and the CORPORATIONS… were opposed by most of the Democrats in the Senate and they were blocking them. Why… because of how much they would end up hurting the economy and raising the national debt!

I believe dick cheney once said: “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter,” Dick Cheney told Paul O’Neill during a Cabinet meeting. “We won the (2002) midterms. This is our due.”

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0119-06.htm

By: malaglot

malaglot — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:32:40 +0000

Reconciliation has NEVER been used in the way the Democrats are attempting to use it right now. Smith is not being completely honest. They are attempting to vote on a reconciliation bill and buried inside is the statement that they deem the senate bill to be passed. In other words they pass the bill in the house without actually voting on it. For Smith to suggest that it’s been done before like this and this is simply business as usual is flat out wrong. Contact Adam Smith’s office and make sure you let him know you know better.

By: webtimes22

webtimes22 — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:38:01 +0000

If this so important and vital, why do none of the key provission take place until after the next presidential election cycle? Just work on providing us, the citizen, the true ABILITY to address our own needs. Support Dedcut-ABILITY (equal tax treatment); Select-ABILITY (right to chose the content of our plans); Port-ABILITY (right to buy across state lines) and Defense-ABILITY (practical and trageted Tort reform).