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Chambers Bay seeking state money for roads

Post by Jordan Schrader / The News Tribune on Feb. 4, 2010 at 2:52 pm with 16 Comments »
February 4, 2010 2:52 pm

Pierce County officials were in Olympia today to push their funding request of more than $500,000 for Chambers Bay Golf Course.

Legislators from the area agreed to support efforts to secure the money.

The public course in University Place, run by the county, will be the home of this year’s U.S. Amateur Championship¬† and the 2015 U.S. Open.

County Executive Pat McCarthy’s staff told members of the local legislative delegation that the county needs state money to pave roads and pedestrian paths and build a boarding area for buses. Gov. Chris Gregoire has put $511,000 in her budget proposal for the course.

“I know this is a significant ask, given the economic conditions,” McCarthy said.

But she said the state has funded Seattle baseball and football stadiums that she doubts will see a Super Bowl or World Series anytime soon. “The U.S. Open is as significant as the World Series, or it’s as significant as the Super Bowl.”

Doing the upgrades in time for the U.S. Amateur will help the course impress the U.S. Golf Association and convince the group to bring back the U.S. Open in future years,  county officials said.

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  1. bigbarb43 says:

    Is this deja vu of what’s to come, more taxpayer money down the hole?

  2. johnesherman says:

    Hey, the State of Washington is broke just like the Federal Government. Take a look at http://www.usdebtclock.org/ to understand how broke they really are today.

    Let the U.S. Amateur Championship and the 2015 U.S. Open pay for what they intend to use or require or need! The ‘Taxpayers’ don’t need it to reduce debt.

  3. ldozy1234 says:

    Anyone remember the movie ” The Money Pit”?
    So far Chamber received another “loan” from the Pierce County Council a couple of months ago….. $250,000.00 – I think this one came from some Equipment fund or something ( nice to know they can “find” $250,000.00 in these economic times Huh?)

    Now the State is willing to shell out $500,000.00 ….
    Plus Chamber has received agreement funds from USGA to prepare………………….

    I have no doubts that they are operating in the deep red in this economy already

    Anyone else appalled?
    Money Pit ………………………………..

  4. everythingalaska says:

    We can’t even staff the Sheriff’s Department! Sell the damn golf course!

  5. tacomajoe says:

    The US Open as significant as the Super Bowl? A comment like this is so stupid, Gregoire couldn’t help but believe it. FAIL!

  6. oldcenturian says:

    Given all of the layoffs occurring in county and state government, this is the kind of request that should be laughed at…but obviously won’t. I’m disappointed in both Pat McCarthy and our local legislators. (Maybe Gov. Gregoire will push back…but I doubt it.)

  7. finalfantasylvr says:

    I doubt there’s a market for golf courses right now. “Sell the damned golf course” is easy to say, everythingalaska, but not so easy to do in this economy.


    Bend-Over-And-Grab-Your-Ankles-Taxpayers !

    Remind Me, what was so great about John and Connie Ladenburg for Pierce County ?

  9. pccorrect says:

    The US Open at Torrey Pines in San Diego brought in over $140 million to the area and have over 240,000 at the turnstiles, so yeah, it probably is in a caliber with the Superbowl. The Open gets there by being a week long event. State and locals are going to make a lot of money on this.

  10. jiminycricket says:

    pccorrect-You’re absolutely correct and right on to point this out! C’mon everyone, open your eyes to the big picture and let’s eliminate the tunnel vision. We’ve got a tremendous asset in Chambers Bay that will pay huge dividends if we’re willing to think outside the box and consider the possibilities!

    “Behold, the turtle only makes progress when he sticks his neck out.”

  11. ldozy1234 says:

    Actually- there hasn’t been any source I have been able to find that has accounted for what the “true” profit was at Torrey Pines after the funds were spent on preparing, security, hosting , cleaning up , etc. was done.
    Plus during and after this event, ecology and other problems that developed had left USGA and San Diego not happy with each other .
    I remember reading something about USGA would probably NOT use the course again for an Open. Maybe they will settle their differences, otherwise it was a one shot deal.

    San Diego had a larger area of additional entertainment and tourist related interests, economy and industries than our section- unless they all go to Seattle.Compared to San Diego alone- what is the value of their tourist industry verses ours on a yearly basis?
    What’s Pierce really have to offer? Downtown Tacoma?

  12. jiminycricket says:

    “What’s Pierce really have to offer? Downtown Tacoma?” Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium, Fort Nisqually Living History Museum, Northwest Trek Wildlife Park, Mt. Rainier, Wright Park, W.W. Seymour Botanical Conservatory, The Theater District (Pantages Theater, Rialto Theater, etc…), Tacoma Museum District (Museum of Glass, Tacoma Art Museum, Washington State History Museum, Children’s Museum of Tacoma, Chihuly Bridge of Glass, etc…), Foss Waterway Seaport, Thea Foss Waterway, University of Washington (Tacoma), University of Puget Sound, Pacific Lutheran University, Stadium Historic District and famed Stadium High School, Tacoma Dome, Shanaman Sport Museum, Greater Tacoma Convention & Trade Center, Tacoma Rainier’s Baseball Club, Puyallup’s 1890 Meeker Mansion, Western Washington Fair, Pioneer Farm Museum & Ohop Indian Village, Dupont Historical Museum, Lakewold Gardens, Lakewood Historical Society & History Museum, The Fort Lewis Military Museum, Wilcox Farm, etc, etc and so on and so forth…………………………………………

  13. ldozy1234 says:

    Jiminey ( hello again)
    2008 numbers( per year)
    San Diego 31.1 million visitors
    7.92 billion spent by tourists
    120,000 direct tourism jobs

    Pierce County
    $897.4 million tourist dollars spent
    10,910 direct tourism jobs

    Won’t even break down what San Diego has to offer ( see their tourism page)
    But even comparing Pierce to Seattle check out this link and then tell me who you think will draw the lions share

  14. jiminycricket says:

    ldoz1234-Hi again! Comparing San Diego to Tacoma/Pierce County is like comparing a watermelon to a pea! Your point is well taken though! For starters, I’m sure that we can agree that San Diego has long been recognized as having one of the best climates in the world and that certainly gives it a leg up, no doubt. I, for one, don’t think that we can compete! However, this does not give us an excuse to not live up to our potential. We are not even coming close to doing that, and that’s a shame!

    Here’s the point that I respectfully want to make. If we (meaning Pierce County) are unwilling to support Chambers Bay with the needed infrastructure (roads) that’s required to help it prosper and grow, then we will not be able to attract the business necessary to make this investment pay off! I think that this would be a pre-requisite to the hotel, shopping, etc….and other improvements.

    As you know, both the US Amateur and US Open will be coming to Chamber Bay. Not only our country, but the entire golf world will be watching. This could be a prelude to other tournaments to come ie the PGA tournament, the Women’s US Open, etc, etc… The possibilities are endless and could mean a longterm financial windfall to our county and region, but it requires some thinking outside of the box, as well as government and private business working together!

  15. jiminycricket says:

    Ooops, I meant to say idozy1234, pardon me!

  16. ldozy1234 says:

    While I can agree with infrastructure changes, if Pierce County can’t even maintain their roads on a routine basis historically, why would any business contemplate a move here?
    I just had to drive into Tacoma- the Stadium road is a nightmare ( poor patients in ambulances) and it was not much better all the way down most of the major roads and towards Hwy 16.
    No doubt we need the roads but businesses already here have seen how sporadic and ineffective concern is addressing that issue and has cost us here already.
    It’s hard to think that road funds for a one time deal would be maintained any better after wards – the track record is too poor.

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