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Atheists want own holiday display outside state Capitol

Post by John Henrikson / The News Tribune on Dec. 4, 2009 at 3:00 pm with 7 Comments »
December 4, 2009 3:00 pm

Brad Shannon over at the Olympian reports. Go here for the full story.

A Seattle-based atheists group asked state officials for permission today for an outdoor display on the Capitol Campus.

Jerry Schiffelbein, treasurer for Seattle Atheists and activist in other free-thought groups that want a separation between church and state, said the message is less confrontational than what went up last year. It will say:

“In this holiday season let us remember that kindness, charity and goodwill transcend belief, creed or religion.”

The request to display the sign near the Capitol’s outdoor Tivoli Fountain is under review along with a request to erect a Jewish menorah near the fountain.

The Department of General Administration has already approved a third request from Chabad Jewish Discovery Center in Olympia for a nine-foot-tall menorah in Sylvester Park, a state-owned property in downtown Olympia. There are just a few questions about how and where to run power to the nine electric lights on the second menorah by the fountain, Rabbi Cheski Edelman said. Edelman asked for both menorah displays.

All three requests are being handled under a new policy adopted this year after a ruckus over holiday displays inside the Capitol. The new policy bars anything but government-sponsored displays — including this year’s 40-foot noble fir “holiday tree” in the Rotunda — inside state government buildings on the campus.

Leave a comment Comments → 7
  1. Husky1B says:

    Why would an atheist need a holiday display?

  2. EugeneB says:


    Husky1B says:
    December 4, 2009 at 5:47 pm
    Why would an atheist need a holiday display?

    Because, Christ mass is a holiday and it’s a statement to be made.

    If you really understand the law, Theres supposed to be a seperation of church and state. The Governor and Lawmakers don’t seem to understand this. So Obviously, The Law is unenforcable requiring someone to stand up against it….

    On the outer shell, it seems like there is seperation; This is the capital, and there will be NO religious icons in the capital……….. Any, decoration adheres to the tradition of Christ Mass.

    No seperation…..

    New King County Executive, Christened in to office in a church………

    Seperation? The supreme court said seperate. Did They? No. Therefore, The Atheist have a valid complaint and protest and therefore so does every other religious orginization………..


  3. MaynerdGKrebbs says:

    Actually the U S Constitution does not have a seperation clause . There is a seperation of powers .it prohibits the government from establishing a religon.

  4. Hoodsportwriter says:

    I am a strict separation of church and state person but this bunch is just nuts. Why do it – is it just to tic people off? Christmas is a holiday that has been taken over by cultures (Japan) who don’t even understand what it represents.

    I don’t go to the mall or the capitol dome to truly celebrate the real meaning of Christmas – I go to Mass and I spend it with my family. The Olympia displays are meaningless.

    Once a holiday is moved from the community, the religious center or family it turns into a pointless exercise in capitalistic gluttony, greed and egocentric behavior.

  5. the3rdpigshouse says:

    Where do we find the low-life that post some of these comments!! Maybe we should mandate birth control with families that exhibit “stupid” as a primary mindset!!!

  6. crusader says:

    If there’s no Festivus pole it just won’t be the Holiday season.

  7. iamjimm says:

    The atheists already have one. They believe in nothing, right?

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