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Ten random thoughts on the Mariners payroll

Post by Ryan Divish on Oct. 18, 2012 at 5:14 pm with 4 Comments »
October 18, 2012 10:48 pm

RkYearTmLgWLFinishPlayoffsStadiumAttendanceAttend/GRankEst. PayrollPPFBPF
12012Seattle MarinersAL West75874 Safeco Field1,721,92021,25811th of 14$78,235,6009190
22011Seattle MarinersAL West67954 Safeco Field1,896,32123,4118th of 14$86,110,6009290
32010Seattle MarinersAL West611014 Safeco Field2,085,63025,7498th of 14$86,510,0009593
42009Seattle MarinersAL West85773 Safeco Field2,195,53327,1057th of 14$98,904,1669594
52008Seattle MarinersAL West611014 Safeco Field2,329,70228,7627th of 14$117,666,4829796
62007Seattle MarinersAL West88742 Safeco Field2,672,22332,5886th of 14$106,460,8339796
72006Seattle MarinersAL West78844 Safeco Field2,481,16530,6326th of 14$87,959,8339797
82005Seattle MarinersAL West69934 Safeco Field2,725,45933,6484th of 14$87,754,3349695
92004Seattle MarinersAL West63994 Safeco Field2,940,73135,8633rd of 14$81,515,8349797
102003Seattle MarinersAL West93692 Safeco Field3,268,50940,3522nd of 14$86,959,1679595
112002Seattle MarinersAL West93693 Safeco Field3,542,93843,7401st of 14$80,282,6689597
122001Seattle MarinersAL West116461Lost ALCS (4-1)Safeco Field3,507,32643,3001st of 14$74,720,8349294
132000Seattle MarinersAL West91712Lost ALCS (4-2)Safeco Field2,914,62435,9834th of 14$60,495,0009394

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Now that it is the offseason, the payroll talk intensifies. For the last five seasons, the payroll has decreased. Will it be a sixth straight season? GM Jack Zduriencik obviously can’t publicly comment on it, though there seems to be a few hints he might get a little more money this year. Mariners CEO Howard Lincoln offhandedly mentioned not spending money on upcoming traffic infrastructure that could otherwise be given to payroll. But that should be viewed with an eye roll. It would be like saying, not spending money on making bunch of Figgins bobbleheads that could otherwise be given paid to payroll.

Being back on the Mariners beat, I feel like there is an expectation to write a blog about payroll. So from my expert opinion, here’s 10 random thoughts.

1. Lowering payroll is a bad thing.

2. Increasing the payroll is a good thing.

3. Spending an increased payroll wisely is a better thing

4. Spending an increased payroll unwisely can be a crippling to an organization.

5. Spending more money usually equates to more wins – unless your GM’s name rhymes with Mavasi

6. While raising the payroll could possibly help the Mariners credibility level among fans and maybe change some perceptions (which aren’t too great right now), raising the payroll in no way guarantees the lagging attendance significantly increases. Wins will  bring fans before free agent signings.

7. Lincoln said the possibility of the Mariners being sold is “pure nonsense.” I’m not sure what impure or corrupted nonsense would be like. But ultimately all payroll decisions will come down to him and the Nintendo Corporation. I really don’t know what he will do. But he often reminds me of Montgomery Burns.

8. The concept of a big television contract suddenly helping the Mariners financially in the future seems plausible. But usually those lucrative and somewhat inflated contracts are the result of some competition for those rights. Exactly who would  be competing with ROOT Sports? JoeTV?

9. The Mariners could add payroll and still be the fourth best team in the AL West in terms of overall talent.

10. The Yankees were just swept by the Tigers as I was typing this. It was very amusing and satisfying and distracting. Did you know that the Yankees owe Alex Rodriguez this much …. 2013:$28M, 2014:$25M,2015:$21M, 2016:$20M, 2017:$20M.


Leave a comment Comments → 4
  1. bbnate420 says:

    Ryan, there has been talk of the Yanks trading AFraud. Exactly who in their right mind would trade for him? Assuming that the Yanks didn’t cover 90+ % of his contract. Also, how much payroll is expected to be owed to players under contract or likely to be kept for 2013? I think I read somewhere around 60-65 million. Thanks.

  2. All teams will benefit from the near doubling of the MLB national media rights sale. When the 2015 opt out of the M’s local medias deal comes around they will probably see that more than double. NBC is now competing for local media sports deals and that is expected to increase the Dodgers new local deal to an average of about $225MM a year for 20 years in the nation’s second largest media market. This is why they spent so much for the exsox to demonstrate they will invest to build their audience before they renegotiate their deal this off-season.

  3. jimkingjr says:

    Anyone wanting to understand the Mariners, payroll, and the inability to put a winner on the field needs to read “Shipwrecked”…

    We’ll get a winner when we get new ownership. All better media dealsdo is improve the Mariners bottom line- and we don’t benefit from that.

  4. mojjonation says:

    This team has been irrelavent since Lou left and have finished above the cellar just once in the last five seasons (three times if you go all the way back to 2002). Until you lose the front office of Dumb, Dumber, and King Koopa Troopa, this team will continue to lead the league in sushi chokings and fan friendly atmosphere. Oh yeah, they moved the fences in. A lot of good that will do when your team doesn’t even have warning track power. Maybe they could play on a regulation softball field and have better luck.

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