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Red Sox 12, Mariners 8: A loss for the record books

Post by Ryan Divish on July 24, 2011 at 3:41 pm with 7 Comments »
July 25, 2011 3:00 pm


15 straight losses

That’s a franchise record. The 1992 team is off the hook. The 2011 team now owns sits atop the record books for streaks of frustration and futility.

With a 12-8 throttling by the Boston Red Sox at Fenway Park, Seattle lost its 15th consecutive game, eclipsing the previous high of 14 straight losses set by the 1992 team. It’s the longest streak in baseball since the Kansas City Royals lost 19 straight games in 2005. The longest losing streak in the modern era belonged to the 1961 Philadelphia Phillies at 23 games, while the longest American League losing streak was 22 by the 1988 Orioles.

“I honestly feel like every time we suit up we are going to win, but this is beyond Groundhog Day,” shortstop Brendan Ryan said, referring to the Bill Murray movie where the lead character experiences the same day over. “It’s pretty unbelievable.”

What’s more difficult to believe is that this team was once a half game out of first place on June 19 when they were 37-35.

Now they are 43-58. That means they are 6-23 since that infamous game in DC where Brandon League got hurt with a 5-1 lead and David Pauley came in and gave up that grand slam, and then the walk off hit.

But on to the streak and the game today.

The Mariners scored eight runs on 13 hits and got a grand slam from Brendan Ryan and still lost. Even worse, it didn’t feel like they were going to win after the first inning. And just about the time you thought it was possible, the fifth inning happened.

Michael Pineda struggled in the first, giving up six hits and a homer — all on fastballs.  His location wasn’t good.

“I don’t know what happened,” Pineda said. “I wanted to throw pitches my down and some of them were up.”

“He was missing some spots with his fastball and they were aggressive,” Wedge said. “They came out and tried to get on him early.”

However, Ryan hinted that Pineda might have been tipping his pitches.

“Obviously something was going on there,” he said. “You are not teeing off on a guy like him just coincidentally.”

His catcher Miguel Olivo wasn’t certain, but thought it might be a possibility.

“In the first inning, they were taking all the sliders and swinging at only his fastball,” Olivo said. “I went to the mound and he changed a little bit and it worked. I’m not 100 percent. But maybe.”

Part of it is the Red Sox ability as hitters too. They hit the fastballs, even at speeds up to 97 and 98 miles per hour.

“They have good hitters, everyone is like a No. 4 hitter,” Olivo said. “You can’t make a mistake, or they will make you pay.”

I’m sure if that’s the case, the Mariners will pick up on it.

The Mariners made it manageable in the fifth, cutting it to 5-3.

After Pineda got runners on first and second with one out and a run of left-handers coming in the lineup and Pineda’s pitch count at 85, Wedge went to lefty Aaron Laffey.

But the left-on-left matchups didn’t help.

David Ortiz reached on an infield single when Laffey fielded the ball in front of the mound and looked to third base only to see that no one was there because the Mariners were shifted over.

“He has to be aware that Adam Kennedy is going to come after that ball too,”  Wedge said. “He has to know that if he fields that ball his only play is first.”

The free out loaded the bases, but they were quickly unloaded as Carl Crawford singled home two runs and Reddick doubled off the wall in right-center to score another run. Saltalamacchia continued the pounding by ripping a two-run single to right-center.

Laffey was lifted without getting an out. Five runs scored while he was in, but two were charged to Pineda.

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  1. SandlotSam says:

    Well, I’ve been an M’s fan since the day it was first announced that Seattle would be getting a new team. It’s been a bumpy ride. But this streak really takes the cake. From where they were 2+ weeks ago to where they are now has been a true baseball free fall. So I’m gonna put on the Tom Petty song “Free Fallin'” and have a few beers. And then watch the next game.

  2. SharkHawk says:

    So… who suffers the axe from this? We’re now at the point of no return. If it falls on Wedge, then I won’t watch another game until certain things take place. I’ve already posted them 100 times over the past 5 or so years. I know I’ve beaten the dead horse beyond reason. But really we need to stop replacing managers and look at the constants that have been here since the freefalll has taken place in this organization.

    Hire Gillick. Do it now. Give him complete organizational control. It should have happened before they let him walk last time. But Howard had to do a typical Howard Power Play and lost the two best men to ever lead this team in Pat and Lou. Look where we’ve been since then. One middling season, and the rest were absolute crap. Time to move forward and stop scapegoating managers.

  3. I agree with Sharkhawk on Gillick, if we can get him go for it!

    Other than that, WHY is the pitching all of a sudden completely tanking?

  4. SharkHawk says:

    I think it’s easy to tank when you go into a game realizing that you’ll get zero support. You give up a run early and try to overdo it and to be too fine rather than throw and keep the ball in the park and rely on your defense.

    Remember back in our winning days, we had pitchers that trusted their offense, trusted their fielders, and would just make sure to keep the other team honest. Moyer allowed runs. But the team scored more than he allowed the majority of the time. He could relax and throw his game. Not go out there with the idea that he had to throw a no-hitter every game to even have a shot at winning.

    The Z-Man hasn’t done much to build a decent offense unfortunately. As a matter of fact it’s downright embarrassing.

  5. stevenrey says:

    The one constant here is Howard Lincoln and Chuck Armstrong. I applaud their ability to turn a profit off us suckers despite the poor performance of their team. I want them to be accountable too, not just the GM, manager and players.
    “Rebuilding a team with young players” is an excuse to cut expenses. We have one recourse. Let them know their product is unacceptable. If they want my money now, they’re going to have to earn it. I’m tired of it.
    Pat Gillick could build teams without the excuses. He did it four times without stripping the unready minor leaguers and I don’t think anybody can touch that record. He’d never come out a of retirement he so justly deserves.

  6. SharkHawk says:

    Gillick said 3 days ago that he wanted back in to a president position with an organization. His name was linked with the Cubs, but he said he’d look at any team that would give him control.

    He is currently advising the Phillies as he stepped down from day-to-day operations, but he’s anything but retired. If Chuckie and Howard stepped aside and gave Pat full control of the organization then I bet he’d come. My guess though is that he wouldn’t trust the two stooges to not meddle. It would need to be a contractual agreement that he has FULL control without any interference from them on any baseball related/payroll matters aside from setting a budget. As long as he worked within that framework then he’d have carte blanche.

    Gillick may enjoy the opportunity to come back and do it all over again, but with additional control beyond what he had last time. There is no better man for the job, nor is there a better man to take over and handpick his own successor to keep going what he builds. He wasn’t given that opportunity last time and we ended up with Buzzy Bavasi’s incompetent jackhole of a son.

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