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		<title>By: dave8557</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave8557</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember Olivo couldn&#039;t hit .150 with Mariners.  I wouldn&#039;t bring him back for that reason alone.  Next, they&#039;ll be bringing back Jeff Cirillo, or Jose Vidro, or Richie Sexson, or...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Olivo couldn&#8217;t hit .150 with Mariners.  I wouldn&#8217;t bring him back for that reason alone.  Next, they&#8217;ll be bringing back Jeff Cirillo, or Jose Vidro, or Richie Sexson, or&#8230;
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		<title>By: Guts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 02:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand why management just commit a rebuilding plan. I mean, lets get real we haven&#039;t had a farm system for ten years and they keep burning holes in their pockets for scotch tape to fix this. They bust the bank for Beltre, Sexson, Silva. Add Vidro and Everett and think you get better. Ridiculous. They don&#039;t know how to spend money, or rebuild. You gotta do one or the other. The problem of this franchise lies at its core, which is upper management. 

Yes they spend money but they can&#039;t do it effectively. Maybe they&#039;ll soon realize you can&#039;t build through Free Agency, it&#039;s expensive and ugly. I don&#039;t know what else it&#039;s going to take to let upper management get the hint and figure it out.

Maybe they&#039;ll allow Jack Z to rebuild. My guts says no because they&#039;re blocking talent and clearly trying to win now. At least Jack Z is making progress in our youth movement. Smoak should be an all-star in a couple years. And a real good one. Felix is 1/1 in his 5 straight Cy Youngs. Gutti can be a cornerstone at center. We&#039;re pretty young, we just harvest the crops in a few years. That&#039;s how you win championships.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why management just commit a rebuilding plan. I mean, lets get real we haven&#8217;t had a farm system for ten years and they keep burning holes in their pockets for scotch tape to fix this. They bust the bank for Beltre, Sexson, Silva. Add Vidro and Everett and think you get better. Ridiculous. They don&#8217;t know how to spend money, or rebuild. You gotta do one or the other. The problem of this franchise lies at its core, which is upper management. </p>
<p>Yes they spend money but they can&#8217;t do it effectively. Maybe they&#8217;ll soon realize you can&#8217;t build through Free Agency, it&#8217;s expensive and ugly. I don&#8217;t know what else it&#8217;s going to take to let upper management get the hint and figure it out.</p>
<p>Maybe they&#8217;ll allow Jack Z to rebuild. My guts says no because they&#8217;re blocking talent and clearly trying to win now. At least Jack Z is making progress in our youth movement. Smoak should be an all-star in a couple years. And a real good one. Felix is 1/1 in his 5 straight Cy Youngs. Gutti can be a cornerstone at center. We&#8217;re pretty young, we just harvest the crops in a few years. That&#8217;s how you win championships.
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		<title>By: ksmyth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ksmyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first heard this deal, I was appalled.  Miguel Olivo blocking the development of Adam Moore was a big mistake.  

Then I looked at two things.  The first was the numbers, particularly defensive numbers.  Compared to every other catcher in the major leagues, Miguel Olivo has the best numbers--best Dewan ratings, best number against base stealers.  Trouble blocking passed balls, but still better than the Moore/RoJo combo.  

Hitting is still a damn sight better than any catcher in a Mariner uniform in 2010. .269/.315/.449 though he is an impatient right handed pull hitter. 

Perhaps the most important reason for this deal however, is Zdurencik&#039;s stated impatience with many of the young Mariners players.  Moore is going to have to show something in order to win a starting job and he&#039;s been put on notice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first heard this deal, I was appalled.  Miguel Olivo blocking the development of Adam Moore was a big mistake.  </p>
<p>Then I looked at two things.  The first was the numbers, particularly defensive numbers.  Compared to every other catcher in the major leagues, Miguel Olivo has the best numbers&#8211;best Dewan ratings, best number against base stealers.  Trouble blocking passed balls, but still better than the Moore/RoJo combo.  </p>
<p>Hitting is still a damn sight better than any catcher in a Mariner uniform in 2010. .269/.315/.449 though he is an impatient right handed pull hitter. </p>
<p>Perhaps the most important reason for this deal however, is Zdurencik&#8217;s stated impatience with many of the young Mariners players.  Moore is going to have to show something in order to win a starting job and he&#8217;s been put on notice.
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		<title>By: shaun9778</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Olivo is a joke!  If they were trying to find the one guy that fit with that disaster of a season last year they found him.  He&#039;s a perfect fit.  Can&#039;t wait for another .210 BA with a .260 OBP.   I bet Tom Lampkin could do better if he played today!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olivo is a joke!  If they were trying to find the one guy that fit with that disaster of a season last year they found him.  He&#8217;s a perfect fit.  Can&#8217;t wait for another .210 BA with a .260 OBP.   I bet Tom Lampkin could do better if he played today!
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		<title>By: nonstopjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonstopjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 13:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This time last year fans had high expectations.  Such is not the case this year - we know the Mariners are truly lousy and not likely to get better anytime soon..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This time last year fans had high expectations.  Such is not the case this year &#8211; we know the Mariners are truly lousy and not likely to get better anytime soon..
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		<title>By: moo</title>
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		<dc:creator>moo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 01:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ryan, is Olivo really better then Bard? or for that matter Jaime Burke?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, is Olivo really better then Bard? or for that matter Jaime Burke?
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