
There’s growing speculation about the possibility that Mariners manager Don Wakamatsu be fired this week. I think we know where I stand on this subject. Still, this team is coming off a 6-22 record in July, and is in the midst of a seven-game losing streak. It would seem like a logical time for GM Jack Zduriencik to make that move.
Why?
Well the team is playing terribly – and Wakamatsu is the next guy to take the fall.
In the past few weeks, we’ve seen Chone Figgins blow up at his manager and cause an embarrassing scene in the dugout. At no point has Zduriencik or Chuck Armstrong or Howard Lincoln made Figgins own up to any accountability for that incident. He was clearly in the wrong and yet still hasn’t addressed the media or offered up a public apology to his manager, his teammates and fans. Instead, he walks around with a Carlos Silva-sized chip on his shoulder that the entire world, including the manager, is against him.
Perhaps even worse is that it appears Zduriencik and Armstrong are not taking any sort of strong stance behind Wakamatsu. Neither has said that what Figgins has done is wrong or will not be tolerated. They’ve distanced themselves from their own manager – never a good sign.
If you add to that the Ken Griffey Jr. situation and the controversy and accusations surrounding his retirement earlier this season, and the other minor incidents, Wakamatsu must feel like Caesar – surrounded by enemies posing as friends.
About the only person we know that seems clearly to have his back is Russell Branyan, and that’s not exactly going to be the deciding factor that keeps Wakamatsu employed.
Is it right? No, not even in the least bit.
But as Wakamatsu told me months ago when the firing speculation first cropped up, the responsibility still falls upon him, and the possibility of being fired for not winning comes with the job.
While he can’t make Figgins hit his weight or play somewhere near the player that got a $36 million contract, or get Jose Lopez to play with more focus or make Milton Bradley and Branyan healthy enough to play every day, Wakamatsu still most likely will be the first person to take the fall for this mess.
Is it fair? Nope, but baseball is far from fair. After all, think about the fact that the two top home run hitters in baseball history likely will be Barry Bonds and A-Rod.
But perhaps the biggest criticism that can be leveled at Wakamatsu is the growing belief that the players have quit on him. It’s the worst criticism for both a manager and a player. No manager wants to be accused of his players not playing hard, and no player wants to have that label of not trying. It’s not the type of accusation you make lightly.
I haven’t been with the team this week. And I can’t tell if they have quit on Wakamatsu or are in the process of quitting, for one major reason.
My thought: They are just a bad baseball team and they are basically playing to about a level to be expected right now. Don’t confuse an anemic, punchless offense that simply gets overwhelmed by above-average pitching to mean a team isn’t trying. They are trying to hit – they simply can’t. We’ve seen it before this season. It’s just that the starting pitching was so good it allowed them to still stay in games. Well, the starting pitching regressed to an expected level and suddenly the offense looks worse – it was always bad, but the team was able to overcome it for a few wins.
Maybe this team is playing like a 100-loss team because it was closer to that than we first thought. There’s been team-wide underachievement for some reason. Whether it’s crumbling under lofty expectations set by the front office, the fans and even themselves, or just an overall complacency after last year’s success, they have fallen hard.
Ask yourself which players on this team have exceeded or met your preseason expectations? Check the multiple projections on Fangraphs.
For me it’s Michael Saunders, who started the season in Triple A for good reason, and Cliff Lee, who’s been traded.
Gutierrez? He hasn’t been bad, but I thought he’d turned the corner offensively last season. But he’s been forced to bat high in the lineup, when he would be better at five or six.
Felix? He’s been good, but not what I expected.
Ichiro? He seems to even be infected by the team-wide apathy and depression.
Lopez? Awful. Just awful.
Bradley? He’s hitting .205 with an OPS of .641
Figgins? Well, plenty has been written about that.
Jack Wilson? Missed games with an injury, which was expected.
Adam Moore? Struggled to adjust and now wallowing in Triple A when he should be called up.
The bullpen? Not good. Inconsistent. And injury-plagued.
A year ago at this time, it would have seemed impossible to think of such a fate for Wakamatsu. He preached about building a belief system in the players, the team and the organization. And it seemed like he had done that.
But part of that system was built and based on a relationship with players. What we found is that players above all else are loyal to themselves first.
Still, Wakamatsu maintained belief in players. That they would produce. That they would play solid fundamental baseball. That they would continue to compete and grind and play for pride if not the postseason. That they would be professionals.
It looks like that belief might ultimately cost him his job.
My opinion continues to be that Wak should stay, but i agree it’s likely he’s going to get fired. Between the Figgins & Smoak situations, that seems pretty clear.
I wrote the following on 6/9 in the thread linked to in Ryan’s post above, & I still feel the same:
“I’d like to see Wak have at least another year. Hate to say it, but Jack Z & budgetary constraints should get the blame for 2010, not Wak.
My understanding is that the budget was cut from 100 mil to 85 mil. That 15 mil could have made a huge difference, so I also hesitate to overly blame Z. I’m leaning towards blaming Armstrong/Lincoln.
In addition to the 15% payroll cut, last year numerous players had career years. This year the only players playing above expectations are Fister, Vargas & Josh Wilson; & for that matter the only players playing at expectations are Ichiro, Lee & (marginally) Gutierrez (Yes, I left Felix out, he is pitching below expectations).
Other then the above, the ENTIRE TEAM is playing below expectations. Mind you if Z had that other other 15 mil, we’d have an offense.”
Sjnce I wrote the above Saunders started to hit, both Ichiro & FG forgot how to hit, Felix improved & Lee was traded.
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Want to respond to your comment Moo…
“Other then the above, the ENTIRE TEAM is playing below expectations. Mind you if Z had that other other 15 mil, we’d have an offense.”
I COULDN’T AGREE MORE! That and you’d probably have more asses in seats!!! Which would be a definite plus too!
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The simple fact is this Team has never known how to win not in the past and i don’t see it in the future either! they have proven to me at least that from the top down they are accustomed to nothing but sub par mediocre in fact they are so accustomed to losing that when they do lose they actually think they win! Poor Poor Mariners losers they are Losers they will be.
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It isn’t right, but Wak will be fired. How can this mess possibly continue. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. So, Wak will go. The Figginsgate issue has not gone away, the Griffey issue has not gone away, and Wak will go away. Players do NOT need to like the coach, but they do need to respect the position, and with the exception on Branyan I cannot see other players respecting the position of the manager, so much so that they are willing to fight in the dugout. So, it isn’t fair, yes they are underachiving, yes, there should be better players, but an 0-7 road trip, 15 strikeouts, two back to back shutouts and a dismal July – well Wak goes.
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I think the front office should be blamed, it is the same as it always has been. Armstrong and Lincoln have been in the front office too long. They will not spend any more money as they have to as long as the fans keep coming. It’s the same story over and over!
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The Budget wasn’t cut period, You all do know Kenji is still getting money from the Mariners until his contract runs up, it not like football where it doesn’t count toward the budget. Their mariners owe Kenji for rest of his contract that count toward the budget.
The blame all goes toward Chuck and Howard for destroying this team since 2001, they don’t care about fans so you guys might as well stop believing what crap they have to say because all they want is your money, so keep coming to the game and buying merchandice because in reality their not going to care how this team is because as long people come to game their just going to put out average team.
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Figgins not hitting his weight? Actually, he’s hitting his weight and then some – the guy’s not very big.
The problem is he’s not hitting his accustomed 2x his weight!
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This teams sucks/it isn`t Wak`s fault it`s upper management fault. And yes, unfortunately Waks expendable… Always fire the coach,never the players being accountable/or upper management. Wakamatsu is a good coach.Keep him/unload the over-paid/playersnot playing to their abilities.
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I’d fire the Howard and Chuck show a thousand times before I’d ever consider firing Don Wakamatsu. This organization needs a coach who gives a crap and would be here for the long haul. Show some loyalty to the guy and it just might pay off. You already suck… why not see if he can manage his way out of it and become a better top man. It isn’t his fault he’s surrounded by talent-less bums. And it isn’t like he’s pulled a Jim Mora and thrown a bunch of people under the boss. He’s done his job with class and consistency (for better or worse).
Give the guy another shot and let somebody more adept run the whole show. Howard and the Chuck are just pathetic. Everything Howard touches turns to crap.
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The most disappointing situations so far: Figgins getting away with being a perfect jerk and apparently the fair haired boy on the team; Tolerating the inept performances of both Bradley and Figgins; assuming that Griffey should have been in the lineup at all; not benching the whole bunch of prlima donnas and playing anyone–pitchers, bat boys, spectators in their places.
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I am going to add one thing, and it is this. If I trusted management to find somebody better then I guess I could get behind a firing of Wakamatsu. The problem is that they have used all trust they had with me and now they get zero tolerance. I don’t trust anything they do. Look at our list of previous managers over the last 8 or 9 years. Melvin (one good season with Lou’s team) then two AWFUL years, Hargrove (2 average seasons after one rotten one, but quit mid-year because he couldn’t deal with the upper management anymore either, went out just like Lou…. no trust in upper management), McLaren (good LORD, this guy sucked as a third base coach… why move him to manager?!), Riggleman (is the most decidedly averagely below-average of managers ever… but this was our upgrade?!), and now Wakamatsu who seemed like a miracle worker to get us 84 wins. That speaks volumes about how crappy this organization had become. 84 wins was a miracle.
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Wak will not be fired this season.
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Wak should definitely be given more time. I agree with the poster who said that Wak has done his job with class and consistency. He is a good manager when you come down to it.
As Ryan pointed out, even if things had went well we knew that this offense would have trouble. And then when you have new guys having terrible years (Safeco field effect? Big contract effect?) we get this disaster. And as someone pointed out, this “suck” was contagious (players press more and try to do too much when you have so many blackholes in the lineup) and even the productive members are struggling now.
Injuries also took a toll.
By the way, I noticed somebody above wrote that the Mariners are still paying Kenji. Not true.
Johjima gave up his remaining salary to go back to Japan. A really classy move.
The budget was indeed cut and I think the surplus Johjima money was used on Kotchman and possibly someone else (although the Kotchman move turned out to be a bad choice so far).
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The Zman should know its not entirely Waks fault. Looking at the batting averages of this team, its amazing to see that every player is 20 to 80 points below their lifetime batting average (on the back of their baseball cards). It’s hard to overcome that. The big culprits are Chone Figgins, Casey Kotchman, Jose Lopez, Ken Griffey, Franklin Guitierrez (lately), Miltion Bradley. Not to mention all the first time players like Rob Jonson, late pick ups like Josh Bard.
Although Ichiro is the only player with a decent average, he’s a lead off hitter with no power.
I haven’t seen a team hitting this badly since the 68 Mets. They at least had potential. This team needs a lot of work again in the off season.
Might as well start seeing what the young guys can do. If they avert 100 losses all the better. Probably not though.
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Salk on Kiro was peculating that Figgins may still be traded or even possibly claimed on waivers if anyone is willing to pick up the contract.
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Great post tomiron24. I hope to read more of what you have to say. You seem tuned in and informative. Good work.
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