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OBAMA: Presidents deserve some free time, too

Letter by Lyle Laws, Puyallup on Sep. 14, 2012 at 2:04 pm with 192 Comments »
September 14, 2012 2:04 pm

I didn’t vote for Barack Obama in 2008, and I do not plan to vote for him in November because I do not think that he has a realistic plan to turn our economy around, and his approach to foreign policy is weak and misguided.

Having said that, I flamed angry when I heard Sean Hannity taking him to task for taking vacation time and spending time playing golf and basketball.

Ronald Reagan and George Bush spent a lot of well-deserved time cutting brush and doing other work on their ranches to relax and replenish, and Bush logged in many miles riding his bike with family and friends. I think it is the height of political pettiness for people to complain about how our leaders choose to spend their private time.

Common courtesy dictates that some things should be off limits.

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  1. ItalianSpring says:

    LOL. Hilarious. Well- on my way to my 105 golf outing in the past 4 years……

  2. They balanced those activities with actual work.

  3. Lyle, I don’t agree with you very often, but I do this time. Well said.

  4. alindasue says:

    Italian Spring,

    Putting it in perspective, 105 golf games in four years is less than two games per month.

    Enjoy your game today. ^-^b

  5. A Romney win = a lose for American and her Citizens.

  6. Fibonacci says:

    Friday afternoon post by good old Lyle. Back to normal.

    CT8
    Give it a rest or come up with some new material.

  7. Lyle – thank you for demonstrating that some conservatives have some sense.

    Unfortunately, with the tone of political discourse these days – abetted by the internet – all sorts of nonsense is put forward in an attempt to demonize the other guy. It no longer seems enough to disagree with their policies – the opponent must be defined as the Antichrist (which was actually claimed about Obama for awhile).

    Before folks on the Right jump on this and say “you guys do it too” – I acknowledge that this idiocy seems to know no ideological boundaries.

  8. LeePHilI says:

    I agree with CT.

    Bush mixed work with brush cutting and that is why he ignored over 50 memos about terrorism prior to the 9/11/01 attact on America that took place less than 9 months after taking office, which means just over 5 memos a month.

    Nothing wrong with that.

    Who stole the real Lyle and where did they put him????????????

  9. aislander says:

    Perhaps the Bamster could make time to attend his own daily security briefing…

  10. aislander says:

    So…what actionable memos did W ignore?

  11. aislander says:

    Besides, doesn’t SodoffPerseus et al maintain it was all an inside job? What good were security memos if that was the case?

  12. Our favorite beer child ‘independent’ is a raging truther himself.

    Lar, so on one hand Bush was war crazy but in the other he ignored actionable intelligence (or are you confusing him with Clinton)?

  13. Dave98373 says:

    If Obama would have taken four years of vacation, the economy and the world would have been far better off. As far as you saying that you didn’t vote for Obama in 2008, Lyle….you can’t even attempt to say or write that with a straight face! Especially given your hyper-politics, biases, and obsession with trying to write TNT with as many letters as you possibly can.

  14. LeePHilI says:

    “Dave98373 says:
    Sep. 14, 2012 at 5:47 pm If Obama would have taken four years of vacation, the economy and the world would have been far better off.”

    I always love Dave’s “independent” take on our President.

    The economy was in free fall in January of 2009. The stock market was half of what it is today. If President Obama walked on water, Dave would complain that he can’t swim.

    “so on one hand Bush was war crazy but in the other he ignored actionable intelligence”

    Yep. That nails it. Bush and Company were so blinded by their obsession with Iraq (who did not attack us on 9/11/01, by the way) that they missed all the warning signs about the attack that did happen on 9/11, thus missing the boat on being ready to defend our country against enemies. Pretty damned embarrassing, huh?

    “Perhaps the Bamster could make time to attend his own daily security briefing…

    Perhaps we could discuss Obama’s birth certificate, which has about as much depth as the issue about “security briefings”. Soon we’ll be hearing the Cons complain about Obama’s bowel movements.

  15. Figured BHO would have learned from that lesson. Attacks on 9-11 should have not come as a surprise.

    Oh, and Bush is not running

  16. took14theteam says:

    P P P _hill

    Trolling as usual.

    With your hatred of Bush, I bet you never do the “nasty” anymore…..

    :-)

  17. lylelaws says:

    Dave98373,

    Tell you what, Dave, I will control my obsession next week to make room for you to write in, hut remember, you will have to identify yourself.

    Since you use 98373 I assume that you may live in the South Hill Puyallup area because my zip is 98374.

    I will be looking for your letter.

  18. LeePHilI says:

    “Oh, and Bush is not running”

    Remind me of that the next time Clinton’s name or Jimmy Carter’s name comes up.

    Don’t you get tired of saying the same weak crap over and over?

    “Figured BHO would have learned from that lesson. Attacks on 9-11 should have not come as a surprise.”

    Did we have an attack on 9/11 02? How about 03? 04? Must have been 05, huh? 06, 07, 08? I know there was none on 09, 10 and 11.

    Now, comparing the attack on the Libyan Embassy to the attacks on the WTC is about like comparing a brain surgery degree to your elementary education.

    I’ll bet that you support Romney’s criticism of Obama’s statement that he never made.

    Obama did learn a lesson from Bush – don’t do stupid things and act like a cowboy.

  19. You and your boy have made that comparison.

    No, I do not tire.

    Last, since you have been behind a desk for 11 years, you have no idea how serious 9-11 is treated.

  20. averageJose says:

    Whata fun thread… Personally, I wish Barry would spend MORE time golfing, and take Michelle with him.

  21. averageJose says:

    … say, since Obarry has done such a bang up job so far, let’s see to it that he gets to golf full time. In fact, how about we just give him a jacket now… you know, like the Nobel Peace Prize premptive suck up.

  22. I almost forget about the NP. Another thing he ruined.

  23. MyBandito says:

    taxedenoughintacoma- A comforting thought which keeps me smiling when the Right gets particularly annoying.

  24. Trueblue22 says:

    @ LLaws–“you will have to identify yourself.” You obviously are more intent on reading your own warped perceptions of life and not open to new ideas. I already have had several letters published. Just not every week. Pay better attention and you just might learn something….neighbor. :)

  25. CT8 – if you persist upon labeling instead of discussing then I will have to stop talking to you too.

    All my quote from Paul Craig Roberts did was summarize the official findings of all of the failed security of the 9/11 Commission and then point out that the 9/11 Commission wasn’t appointed for nearly a year after the tragedy and none of the members were experts in the field. If you think that acknowledging the truth of those statements – without putting forth any alternative theories – somehow qualifies as being a “truther”, you aren’t worth talking to.

  26. took14theteam says:

    Pretty soon beerBoy will just be talking to himself…..

    ;-)

  27. took14theteam says:

    Don’t you get tired of saying the same weak crap over and over?

    This coming from a _hill is priceless…

    LMAO

  28. MyBandito says:

    Don’t you?

    There’s plenty of that to go around.

  29. took14theteam says:

    As a matter of fact, I do.

    Every letter here boils down to the same comments after a while from EVERYONE. It does get kind of old.

    Unfortunately, I don’t see the division in this country going away anytime soon. It will go on for another 4 years regardless of who is elected president, because the losing side will not be happy.

  30. LeePHill wrote:Perhaps we could discuss Obama’s birth certificate, which has about as much depth as the issue about “security briefings”. Soon we’ll be hearing the Cons complain about Obama’s bowel movements.
    _____________________________________________________

    Informed sources say, “they don’t stink.”

  31. averageJose says:

    Soon we’ll be hearing the Cons complain about Obama’s bowel movements.

    Que beerBoy…
    “Scatological references are popular with very young children – many grow out of it.”

  32. MyBandito says:

    We would be much better off if we could learn to work together.

  33. Bb, in a yes or no answer, are you a truther?

    It is not a mainstream recognized ‘alternate theory’. It is reserved for people who hate President Bush and need to spin what happened to justify/excuse/ignore extremist Islam.

  34. LeePHilI says:

    I would admit to being a “truther” without knowing what inane, silly definition that CT puts behind the word.

    Anything with the word “truth” separates me from the Birchers.

    What is really humorous is that Obama is steadily distancing himself from Romney in credible polling and Romney’s followers are pulling the same crap as they did in 2008 that worked so well for Obama. Rational adults don’t buy into the childish namecalling and nitpicking.

  35. LeePHilI says:

    I’m still taking up collections for TaxedEnoughs moving expenses after Ref 74 is passed in Washington.

    One less childish complainer and more space for people that understand you have to be part of the community to enjoy it.

  36. averageJose says:

    citation Larry

  37. There is nothing rational about supporting BHO in 2012. Nothing.

  38. averageJose says:

    Kooky, Rassmussen shows Romney ahead and Gallup shows Barry is ahead but dropped back one point from last week.

  39. LeePHilI says:

    Romney’s foot in mouth disease act is better theater than McCain freezing on the economic crisis in 2008.

    yeah…let’s rationally support Cowboy Romney and start more wars that are not funded because he cut taxes.

    Never done that before….have we????

    Why is Romney paraded as the Saint of Economics, when all he has done is bankrupt companies and made millions for himself? It that the pattern that we want for America?

  40. BHO is bankrupting America. He has spend $5tril more than the govt took in.

    What are you talking about?

    Romney is respected as a businessman because he outrageously successful. He was a smart man who surrounded himself by the best and it worked. He had responsibility. He paid people. BHO has never been held responsible. You make excuses for him daily. With investors, excuses do not work.

  41. alindasue says:

    CT8 said, “I almost forget about the NP. Another thing he ruined.”

    When people start awarding themselves Nobel prizes, then maybe you can make that claim. As it is, the Nobel prizes are awarded by a committee of five people in Norway and have absolutely no connection to American politics.

    http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/committee/

    Everyone – including President Obama, no doubt – was quite surprised when it was awarded to him so early into his term as president. Being unable to get into the minds of the Nobel committee members, I can only surmise that they thought Barack Obama’s pre-election trip went much smoother than Mitt Romney’s journey did this last summer and they thought he was a breath of fresh air after eight years of President Bush.

    truthbusterguy,

    Please note that I said “President Bush”.

    The TRUTH is that, although I like his father, I have very little respect left for George W. Bush. Regardless, I address him or speak of him using his proper name and title. That is the polite thing to do.

    When a person places sophomoric twists on names or refuses to use proper titles, that says more about that person than the person he is trying to insult.

    CT8,
    Your “yes or no” questions usually cannot be answered fully with “yes” or “no” answers without attaching qualifications to them. That’s because your “yes or no” questions tend to be of the “Are you still beating your wife?” type, intended to entrap the person you are questioning no matter how they answer.

    I generally ignore such questions and would not be surprised if beerBoy chooses to do likewise.

    It’s only Saturday morning… It looks to be a loooong weekend.

  42. Are you a truther (the 9-11 meaning, Larry)? Why is that complicated? Why do one have to twist and spin? Be proud of you beliefs or why have them?

    Why call yourself “independent ” when you show blind allegence to one party (directed at the masses, not you Alindasue)?

    The whole world rallied around PRESIDENT Obama. Then he let everyone down.

    I know he did not award the NP to himself. That was just another example of progressive politics getting in the way of reason and sanity.

  43. sumyungboi says:

    alindasue: “Nobel prizes are awarded by a committee .. have absolutely no connection to American politics”

    Hahahahahahahahahaha!!

  44. sumyungboi says:

    Ever notice that almost all 9/11 truthers are progressives? Just goes to show the stupidity and ease of mental training among leftists.

  45. Sum, it is anti-Bush/Cheney sentiment. It is an excuse for extremist Islam and shame of US values and power.

    Truly sad.

  46. alindasue says:

    sumyungboi,

    Read, please:
    http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/committee/

    I did not say that the decisions we not based on world politics. The committee is looking at that, of course, but the only connection that has to American politics is in how our politics affect the rest of the world.

    As I said before, my guess is that they were impressed with then-Senator Barack Obama’s pre-election trip abroad which, unlike Mitt Romney’s trip this last summer, showed his willingness and ability to work within the international community – and was probably a breath of fresh air after eight years of President Bush’s cowboy politics.

    CT8,
    In the context of the current political atmosphere and these forums, what exactly IS a “Truther” (or at least your definition of such)?

    If you mean “Truther” as someone who wants to know the truth about the events on that day and who was behind the attack, the we are all “Truthers”, aren’t we? At least, all of us except the few who don’t ever want their opinions complicated by facts.

  47. sumyungboi says:

    You’re correct, CT8, but it wouldn’t matter if it was Bush / Cheney or Haysoos / Mary. The left hates anything conservative, and I mean _HATE_. They want, in a big way, to believe anything that makes conservatives evil. They’re simply weak minded, which is why they’re so easily manipulated by those who crave power.

  48. sumyungboi says:

    alindasue, everything. _EVERYTHING_ involves American politics. Listen to your brother.

  49. averageJose says:

    LOL… even according to Larry’s cherry picked NYTimes/CBS poll, the margin of error makes it a tie…

  50. alindasue says:

    CT8 said, “Sum, it is anti-Bush/Cheney sentiment. It is an excuse for extremist Islam and shame of US values and power.”

    CT8, It is possible to dislike the Bush/Cheney administration and be understanding of Islam and Muslim people while still being appalled by extremists, Islamic or otherwise.

    I have several former co-workers that I still consider friends who are immigrants from Somalia, Djibouti, and ethnic-Turks from Russia. Most of them, proud to now be American citizens, know more more about “US values” than many of us here seem to. The majority of them are Muslims who are just as appalled by the extremists as the rest of us are.

    We’ve had this “power” discussion in another thread regarding WMDs. Power is two-edged. It can be used for strength or it can be used to suppress. When American power goes toward enhancing our people and the world, I am proud. When it is used to destroy, not so much so.

    And we have all gotten way off topic. Given the headache that sometimes comes from just discussing politics here, I can understand why any president would need to take a few hours every week or so to golf, go bike riding, or anything else just to maintain sanity while in office.

  51. alindasue says:

    sumyungboi said, “alindasue, everything. _EVERYTHING_ involves American politics. Listen to your brother.”

    You know, When Japanese or any other foreigners visit the USA, we expect them to come prepared to communicate in English. When I traveled to Japan, there were signs all over in English, as well as Japanese, to aid travelers in navigating. It’s more common for Americans to not bother to even to try speaking the local language. Nearly all Japanese people study a foreign language. In the USA, less than 10% of the people ever do.

    I mention this to point out that Americans tend to be a bit on the ego-centric side. The fact is that TO AMERICANS everything involves American politics. To the Nobel committee in Norway, that may not necessarily be the case.

  52. bobcat1a says:

    taxedenough, there are a lot of states more “screwed up and blindly stupid” than this one; look at any good electoral map and you will find all those colored in red. And you could easily move to one of them and be happier, since the cost of living is lower (to go along with the wage scale).

  53. sumyungboi says:

    funny you bring that up. I lived in Japan for several years in the 70’s, and yes, everyone there at the very least understands English. Oh, did I say English? Do you speak American? Didn’t think so.

    Go anywhere, babe, English is the language of business.

  54. alindasue says:

    sumyungboi,

    Too many “real” natural born Americans take their citizenship in this country for granted, not thinking about what it really means to be an American. Those immigrant friends of mine, much like my great-grandfather, worked hard for years to become American citizens because they understand what being a citizen really means. Both are equally citizens, but those that had to work harder for it also tend to appreciate it more.

    The real question here is not whether an immigrant can be considered “more American” than you, but how much do you really understand and appreciate your citizenship in this country? Do you fully understand the responsibilities that come with that citizenship? (Those are meant to be rhetorical questions for people to answer within themselves. I’m not expecting a reply to them from anyone.)

    By the way, whether I am a “young idiot” or an old fool depends on your point of view. I am 49 which means, I suppose, that I am a little bit of both.

  55. sumyungboi says:

    alindasue, I’m saddened by either:

    1) you don’t listen to your sisters, or

    2) you don’t listen to the ward as a whole

    If you’re cool with living under the thumb of an atheist, that’s up to you, it’s your life, not mine.

  56. alindasue says:

    sumyungboi said, ” Oh, did I say English? Do you speak American? Didn’t think so.
    Go anywhere, babe, English is the language of business.”

    Yes, actually, I do speak American just as you do, although I am relatively fluent in English as well. I know that the dustman collects the rubbish, and that he uses his torch to find the wheel spanner in his car boot when it is dark out.

    Did you learn any Japanese when you lived there? (I am amazed at the number of Americans who don’t.) If you did, then you would know that “ingurisu-go” (English) refers to England and not “amerika-go” (American English). “The language of commerce” is not necessarily just an American language.

    The United States is a great and powerful nation but it is only the center of the world to those of us who live here. A Japanese world map has Japan in the center.

    Which brings us back to why the Nobel committee’s decisions are not necessarily concerned with American politics. To them, the center of the world is in Norway.

  57. alindasue says:

    sumyungboi,

    I don’t even understand what you are trying to say in your 1:36pm post… My sisters? The ward? Thumb of what atheist? Huh?

  58. sumyungboi says:

    alindasue, I knew enough to know what was being said around me, though I rarely actually spoke Nippon. As for the rest, you know.

  59. alindasue – as we get closer to the election and Romney’s fade becomes more evident, the hardcore Obama-haters are getting more rabid. I have just given up on a few of them and hope that, after November, their foaming at the mouth decreases.

  60. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Truth_movement

    They try and fluff it up but bottom line is they believe something other then Islamic terrorists destroyed the WTC.

    Sum, I think you are being a little hard on Alindasue. Her view of ‘American’ is a Washingtonian.

  61. aislander says:

    alindasue: Truth is to truther as birth is to birther…

    Do you believe there is a distinct American culture?

  62. SwordofPerseus says:

    Conc. It is obvious that you have no idea how a sky scraper is constructed. I do.

    Anyone that believes that the WTC towers, which imploded on 9/11/01, from aircraft ramming them has never been involved in construction of such buildings or the characteristics of an aircraft fire. I have/do. Building 7 was not struck by an aircraft.

    I know this is beyond the scope of this blog, however, CT8 posed the query. If by “Truther” you mean do I not buy the BS fabrications concocted by the 9/11 Commission, then yes I am. Along with anyone with experience in modern building construction who has read the report and thought about it at length.

  63. alindasue says:

    ailander,

    Actually my view of “American” is anyone who lives on the American continents, but I do often use the term to mean specifically a person who is a citizen of the United States of America, as was the case today.

    Yes, I believe there is a distinct American culture – well, several actually, depending on where you live in the USA. The United States and Canada are unique in that the bulk of their population is made up of immigrants and the descendents of immigrants. That tends to have an effect on local populations, but there is an overall Americanism (or Canadianism) about all of them.

  64. alindasue says:

    SwordofPerseus,

    Whether there were other action involved with event or not (I’m surmising that you think explosives were used), there are enough eye witnesses to attest to the fact that buildings were indeed struck by aircraft.

  65. took14theteam says:

    If you lose the load carrying capability of the beams were the aircraft struck, you lose the ability to support the remaining structure above the point of impact. If there is nothing to support the weight, it will fall due to gravity (remember the apple thingy and Newton’s head). The acceleration of the mass above the point of impact is what caused the force to bring down the building in a domino effect.

  66. Why are we even talking about this? This topic (some conspiracy to kill Americans) is too stupid for words.

    Papa Bush was a hero shot down in war. W is Texan. For those ignorant of regions that love America, Texas is the center.

  67. MyBandito says:

    We’re getting closer and closer to an election where those on the Right, in Washington, know that their vote for Romney will be for naught.

  68. aislander says:

    And yet I’m REALLY looking forward to the election…

  69. averageJose says:

    Me too. :D

  70. LeePHilI says:

    “Romney is respected as a businessman because he outrageously successful.”

    By who?

    I respect people like Bill Gates who build successful businesses and make others successful.

    Romney’s company is responsible for bankrupting companies, eliminating jobs and leaving pensions the responsibility of taxpayers. There is nothing “successful” about that, unless your only measure of success is how much money he stuck in his pockets.

    Romney brags about “saving the Olympics”. How much taxpayer money did he use to do that?

    There is one reason why Romney gets the description of “successful” – the people who bestow the term on him. If Romney was a Democrat/Progressive, he’d be called a crook.

    Finally….if anyone cares to take a look at the topic of Lyle’s letter, you’ll see why the converation has been distorted into ridiculous thing like 9/11 and such. Lyle invoked a little intellectual honesty about the childish attacks on Obama and the Cons know they are guilty as charged.

    From all appearances, Romney’s camp took directions from Sarah Palin this week. They must have been overseas counting the money from ill gotten gains in 2008 and not noticed that Palin’s tactics took McCain to the sewer, from which he never returned.

  71. lylelaws says:

    American Presidents are the most powerful people in the world, but they also carry hellish loads.

    When I saw a video of President Obama giving his Saturday radio address today he looked like he had had very little sleep in the last few days, and although I know that comes with the territory, we might consider a way to take some pressure off of our future leaders.

    In this day and age of instant worldwide communication do we really need to put the lives of our diplomats and their families in grave danger by physically staffing embassies in countries in which known hate-America terrorists groups operate with virtual impunity?

  72. GW went on a 30 day vacation right after taking office

  73. SwordofPerseus says:

    Lyle, in diplomacy, there is no substitute for face to face interpersonal communications.

  74. SwordofPerseus says:

    Alindasue, there is no doubt in my mind that aircraft struck the North and South towers of the World Trade Center. It’s what happened after that, which has never been investigated or explained properly.

  75. SoP and alindasue,

    Unfortunately, the label of “Truther” lumps in all who question the official version of the story with all theories that have been put out there. So, when I point out that the Bush Administration failed on every level and that, instead of immediately trying to figure out what went wrong, they delayed appointing a commission to investigate, I am dismissed as a “truther” who believes that there were no planes crashing into the buildings (Let’s not mention Building 7…..).

    The same approach has been utilized to equate anyone who is an Arabic Muslim (or even anyone who is an Arab or a Muslim) with al Qaeda. There share one characteristic so, in the minds of the simpleminded, sloganistic, keyboard warriors, they must share ALL characteristics.

  76. sumyungboi says:

    lee: “Romney’s company is responsible for bankrupting companies ..”

    Sounds like you kinda hurt “down there”.

    Romney wouldn’t have been my first choice, either, but my left slipper would be better than mega db ‘bama.

  77. Larry, try some honest here. BHO doesn’t attend intel briefing and abandoned his jobs council. He is on the perpetual campaign. He blew off our strongest ally in the ME while the place is exploding.

    He deserves no break or vacation. We hear from him how big our problems are yet he does nothing. He passes blame and you buy it.

  78. averageJose says:

    Hopefully the author of the 6:34am post will remember what he wrote the next time he calls someone a “birther”… probably not tho.

  79. Bb, your logic is beyond flawed. The fact that you are a truther because you buy into XXX has nothing to do with ‘all Arabs are AQ’.

    Stop trying to alter what a truther is or paint it in a different light.

  80. MyBandito says:

    It’s amazing what goes on here. Nothing but pointless bickering. I may as well be watching Fox News.

    Time to go outside and get some fresh air.

  81. I do not care about Obama’s downtime. Everyone has there way to destress. What I care about is what he does on the job.

  82. “You and your boy”

    “obamaboy”

    More racist name-calling garbage.

  83. “They try and fluff it up but bottom line is they believe something other then Islamic terrorists destroyed the WTC.”

    LOL – that’s pretty funny. The GOP has repeatedly blamed Clinton for 9/11.

  84. “you hate joos and conservatives and the USA”

    Projection. Look it up.

  85. “Larry, try some honest here. BHO doesn’t attend intel briefing”

    No, he reads them every day. “Try some honest” yourself.

  86. sumyungboi says:

    beerboy: ” I am dismissed as a “truther” who believes that there were no planes crashing into the buildings (Let’s not mention Building 7…..)”

    Hahahahahaha!! What a loser! Nooo .. don’t believe a bunch of them durn “scientists” and stuff, beerboy, sitting on a loveseat in his frontyard next to the pigpen knows waaaay more, cuz he hates them durn joos, so don’t pay no never mind that he’s stupid, poor, and failed his GED test, them there joos “pulled it” on building seven. Hahahahahahaha!! :)

  87. sumyungboi says:

    Truther, ehill? Hmmm? You little kiddies crack me up!

  88. “Truther, ehill? Hmmm?”

    Nope. Take your garbage elsewhere. While you’re at it, look up “projection” – I think you’ll find your picture.

  89. aislander says:

    Reading briefs is no substitute for being briefed–especially if one has the problems with the language that Obama does…

  90. sumyungboi says:

    ehill, glad to see that you’re not a truther idiot whack job. I think it’s awesome that you refer to trutherism as “garbage”, in essence, telling beerboy and sword that they’re stupid nut cases, and in that, you’re correct. One simply cannot be a truther and right of mind at the same time.

  91. “Reading briefs is no substitute for being briefed”

    What an idiotic thing to say. But then, you’ve been shown to have language problems yourself. Oh, wait, let me correct that. You’ve been shown to have honesty issues yourself.

  92. menopaws says:

    Sometimes we need to remember that being President is NOT an easy job—regardless of which party our leader comes from…..all this sniping isn’t much different than when bush was criticized for all his vacations on his Crawford ranch…….They are President 24/7 and carry that job with them wherever they are…….So, Lyle gets some points here for looking at this issue fairly………….I really am sick of all the mean sniping……..Sometimes, I am sure our Presidents wonder why they are working sooooo damn hard to protect people they don’t like or respect……….Lord knows, I wonder why they bother myself..

  93. “I think it’s awesome that you refer to trutherism as “garbage””

    To quote aiSlander: “learn to read for comprehension, loser”.

  94. They have to work “sooooo damn hard” before they can have that emotion.

    “Mean”. Too funny. This is not about playing nice. You are content to sit back and watch America collapse financially, socially, politically under the watchful eye of one President Obama.

  95. sumyungboi says:

    So .. you _don’t_ think trutherism is garbage. Can’t have it both ways, you either buy into it, or you don’t. You’re either a loon nut case with a sofa in your front yard, or you can see trutherism for what it is: a band of mentally re!arded nut cases. Which is it? Are you simply afraid to out yourself?

  96. Backed into a corner ehill starts to cry and deflect. Good job, Sum.

    Ehill- Why not state your position clearly? Are you a truther or not?

  97. “You’re either a loon nut case with a sofa in your front yard, or you can see trutherism for what it is: a band of mentally re!arded nut cases.”

    Excellent use of the “false choice” logical fallacy. LOL

  98. “Ehill- Why not state your position clearly? Are you a truther or not?”

    To quote aiSlander again: “learn to read for comprehension, loser.”

  99. Why are you embarrassed of your positions? What does that speak about you and those positions?

    No spine or intelligence.

  100. lylelaws says:

    swordofperseus,

    “In diplomacy there is no substitute for face to face interpersonal communications.”

    Explain that to the families of the four Americans who were murdered in Libya and to our diplomats in Egypt and many other countries who are wondering if they may be next.

  101. LeePHilI says:

    I see CT and boi are still trying to keep the topic away from the childish antics of those who whine about the President having personal time.

    While there is no question that airplanes flown by terrorists who Bush’s Administration ignored crashed into the WTC, it appears that there is substantial question about other things that happened to the buildings and those questions haven’t been answered, nor probably ever will be answered.

    I still don’t see what that has to do with the topic of the letter – that being childish complaint about the President playing golf less than once a week. It seems that the Speaker of the House is known to play golf about three times a week, many of those rounds not near his district, nor Washington DC. I guess The House of Representatives is doing such a bangup job and has such a great relationship with the constituency that Boehner need not discipline himself to a more astringent work schedule.

    What we know to be true is…during the past 3 1/2 years, Obama has mixed in 100 golf outtings with the capture/killing of Bin Laden (a seemingly impossible task for the previous admin), the stablization of employment that was in free fall in 2009, and had time to save General Motors and all of the collective businesses who depend on GM for contracts and the labor force affected as well.

    Lyle – welcome back. I knew someone had just hidden you, but your last comment was classic “Laws’ laws”. Interpresonal communication needs has virtually nothing to do with the murder by the terrorists in Libya, but somehow, you’ve attempted to tie the two issues into one and do so in a way that is supposed to made Sword look bad. Now if we can just figure out who wrote this letter that had a moment of sanity..

  102. Eleven ehill posts. Ten of the posts contain two or fewer sentences. One treatise contained four complete sentences. I have seldom seen such an unique ability to present such a huge quantity of rubbish in so few words. Amazing.

  103. LeePHilI says:

    “You are content to sit back and watch America collapse financially, socially, politically under the watchful eye of one President Obama.”

    Now the President is responsible for the anti-social behavior of those who oppose him?

    It’s bad enough when they try to tag him with the financial collapse of America during a time when the stock market is at its all time high and has grown over 100% since he took charge of the country, but when he is held responsible for the childish social skills of the Republicans, much of which was displayed during their convention…..well….ya just can’t win, can ya?

    As I witness some of the ridiculous actions of the CONs, I’m left to wonder how Obama doesn’t just break out in laughter to the point of tears. I guess his dignity won’t allow such a natural human response.

  104. averageJose says:

    Popular Mechanics ran a series of investigations and articles of what happened Truther.

    Why doesn’t he break in laughter??? Because he knows he’s in trouble.

  105. Aislander wrote: “Reading briefs is no substitute for being briefed”
    __________________________________________________

    Ehill responded: What an idiotic thing to say. But then, you’ve been shown to have language problems yourself. Oh, wait, let me correct that. You’ve been shown to have honesty issues yourself.
    __________________________________________________

    Ehill has obviously mastered a method of questioning a piece of paper to gain a fuller understanding of its content. We’ll stand by for his explaination on how he and President Obama manage to do this.

  106. I see Jr called in reinforcements.

    If the Speaker’s district has issues with his work/play balance, it’s up to them to act on it. But we all vote for the President. Nice try.

    Killing Bin Laden was impossible without actionable intel. You know, the stuff BHO got through tactics and procedures he campaigned against. How amateurish to claim BHO did something better when the Bush admin had no opportunity.

    Bush saved GM, and Ford did just fine without any govt handout.

    The free fall ended with the end of the recession. Since then people have just given up and take their check from the taxpayer, claim disability, etc. he has not made anything better. Quite the contrary, he has hindered a natural recovery while spending insane amounts of borrowed money.

    By the way, see our latest downgrade?

  107. LeePHilI says:

    Keep squirming CT.

    The only person that buys into your versions of history is you.

    You say you have a latest downgrade? I notice you refer to it as “our”

    “Because he knows he’s in trouble.”

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/09/16/obama-ahead-of-romney-in-pennsylvania/70000445/1

    Dispite the attempts by the Republicans to block voting in PA…..

    We could check a few other bellweather states if you’d like.

    How is the Pres doing in Florida?

    Oh…what the heck…let’s have some fun….

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-14/obama-leads-romney-in-poll-of-florida-ohio-and-virginia

    Now…was we all know…Business Week is a liberal propaganda rag…

  108. LeePHilI says:

    “hatred of jews and America to buy into that nonsense. Hahahaha!! What a mook!

    There is only one person that can turn everything into a “hatred of jews” and uses the word “mook”.

    If anyone is a “nutjob”……LOL

    Sybilicious!!!

  109. averageJose says:

    Larry just reminded my of his fail when he predicted the outcome of the 2010 elections. Keep ‘em coming Larry of Oly.

  110. LeePHilI says:

    Someone is blowing their cover all over the place….LOL

    Just a little gift….

    The conversation then turned to D’Souza’s documentary, 2016: Obama’s America, in which he claims that Obama is influenced by his father’s anti-colonialist views. When D’Souza tried to defend his allegations, Maher asked him “how far up [his] azz” he had to go to think up that claim. And as for the contemporary applications of Obama holding anti-colonialist views, D’Souza argued that it is part of an anti-capitalist ideology Obama holds that views America as a “rogue nation.”

    Watching it live was so much better….LOL

  111. LeePHilI says:

    Well…about 6 characters will drop out of the conversation. Look forward to some new ones.

    LMAO

  112. “Why are you embarrassed of your positions?

    I’m not. I was perfectly clear that I’m not a “truther”. Why are you unable to read for comprehension?

  113. “Eleven ehill posts. Ten of the posts contain two or fewer sentences. One treatise contained four complete sentences.”

    I have to keep them short so you’ll be able to follow along.

  114. “Ehill has obviously mastered a method of questioning a piece of paper to gain a fuller understanding of its content. We’ll stand by for his explaination on how he and President Obama manage to do this.”

    Ever heard of the telephone? I hear it’s catching on.

  115. “I mean, seriously, you gotta be really dumb in addition to your hatred of jews and America to buy into that nonsense.”

    Thanks for living down to my expectations.

  116. 3 more posts from a Hill, absolutely zero contribution.

    Ehill has obviously never led anything or made decisions based on complex problems.

  117. I wrote: “Eleven ehill posts. Ten of the posts contain two or fewer sentences. One treatise contained four complete sentences.
    ___________________________________________________

    Ehill says: I have to keep them short so you’ll be able to follow along.
    ___________________________________________________

    Make that twelve!

  118. Aislander wrote: “Reading briefs is no substitute for being briefed”
    __________________________________________________

    Ehill responded: What an idiotic thing to say. But then, you’ve been shown to have language problems yourself. Oh, wait, let me correct that. You’ve been shown to have honesty issues yourself.
    __________________________________________________

    I wrote: Ehill has mastered a method of questioning a piece of paper to gain a fuller understanding of its content. We’ll stand by for his explaination on how he and President Obama manage to do this.
    ___________________________________________________

    Ever heard of the telephone? I hear it’s catching on.
    ___________________________________________________

    You do not require a telephone to convey the impression that you have
    little or no interest in the subject. Failure to attend such meetings
    displays such disinterest especially in light of his dedication to campaigning. Why not campaign by phone if it is such an important and time saving device??

  119. MyBandito says:

    What a pathetic display of adolescent behavior.

  120. Bandit, you are correct. The Hills should be ashamed of themselves.

  121. MyBandito says:

    CT8- Herein lies the problem. You obviously want to create the illusion that I’m not talking about you.

    Delusional disorder is an uncommon psychiatric condition in which patients present with circumscribed symptoms of non-bizarre delusions, but with the absence of prominent hallucinations and no thought disorder, mood disorder, or significant flattening of affect. For the diagnosis to be made, auditory and visual hallucinations cannot be prominent, though olfactory or tactile hallucinations related to the content of the delusion may be present.

  122. The latest reliable poll, from NBC/Wall Street Journal by Marist, gives Obama a seven-point lead in Ohio, and five-point leads in Virginia and Florida. If Obama wins two of those states, it’s over. Heck, if he wins one of them, it’s most likely over, provided he holds on in the other swing states where he now holds small leads (Colorado, Iowa, etc.)

    http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/13501-focus-romneys-last-ditch-strategy

  123. Thanks for all the insults. They show that you can’t refute the facts.

  124. And Dukakis was up 17 at this point in the campaign. I am sure these polls make you feel good (as the ones in Wisconsin did) but they are fairly meaningless.

    Ehill, start using facts instead of commenting on the commentators.

    MB, ironic that you attempted to insult me after whining about childlike behavior.

  125. “Ehill, start using facts instead of commenting on the commentators.”

    Was this supposed to be a good example of that? LOL

  126. MyBandito says:

    CT8- Insulting you is the last thing on my mind. Pointing out what is obvious to most of us, is.

    People like you have turned this forum into a worthless pit of obnoxious behavior. The topic means nothing to you. All you want to do is to put down those who you disagree with. You have no credibility because your motives are disingenuous.

    Please don’t reply. It means nothing to me.

  127. Too funny. I can and will reply or comment on whatever I desire, as long as it is within the rules.

    You want this to be a forum for leftists to pat each other on back. Your partner in progressivism, Hill, has a blog he can point you to.

    “People like me” keep the conversation honest, and take pity on ignorant leftists by taking the time to tell them the truth.

    You and your ilk are welcome.

  128. averageJose says:

    When ever I see a link that has opinion in it I chuckle.

  129. SwordofPerseus says:

    Conc & sumdumboy; I normally would not point out that neither of you has the the writing skills nor the reading comprehension of a nine year old. It is apparent to anyone who struggles to decipher and interpret your posts. I find it not least bit surprising that you have nothing close to a logical or well thought out rebuttal to my statement. All you have are your usual mindless name calling and dim witted rants. You both are part of the problem, low information, easily fooled, so called patriots with a limited education and an aversion to the well read and liberally educated in society. Led along by media slogans and fallacious arguments, you are fighting the wrong enemy. Someone should really should sit you down and read some history written by someone with a broader perspective than your own. Do not reply, I will not attack you anymore, it is not fair to you. You have no defense against intellect.

  130. averageJose says:

    … unless, of course, I’m projecting an opinion.

  131. sumyungboi says:

    Dude, you’re a 9/11 truther. This means you’re not thinking straight, and are easily fooled because you hate jews and the USA. Nothing you write means anything.

  132. averageJose says:

    You just made my day Sodoff… well, last 45 seconds anyway.

  133. lylelaws says:

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I would like to find out what some of the regulars would think about not physically staffing embassies in countries that either can not or will not control terrorist attacks against our people.

    President Obama is OK with reading intelligence memos rather than having to be briefed in person because no matter where he is or what he is doing modern communications allow him to take the White House with him and be able to react just as quickly as he could from the Oval Office.

    It is time to modernize some of our foreign relationships to protect our diplomats and their families in the future.

  134. took14theteam says:

    Lyle-

    Didn’t President George W. Bush have a communication center set up in his home in Texas that allowed him to react just as quickly as he could from the Oval Office?

    You know, when the Lefists said he was on VACATION during the month of AUGUST, as well as CONGRESS being on VACATION during the same period. I am pretty sure Mr. Bush was able to attend security briefings during the month of AUGUST from his home that was wired with modern communication equipment. Yet the Lefists say he did nothing.

    Yet The current president would rather spend time on the Letterman show and play basketball or golf than keep up on National Security matters.

    Perhaps the Blackberry he caries isn’t powerful enough.

    Oh, some Americans were killed and dragged through the streets of an Islamic country on the anniversary of 9-11, when there was 48 hours notice of the impending violence, and the President slept.

  135. ““People like me” keep the conversation honest”

    ROFLMAO

  136. Sonofwashington says:

    This “fluff up” about the president golfing on occassion and reading memos vs. getting briefings is right up there with the hyped-up disgust that he uses (OMG!) a teleprompter (just like Reagan, Bush I and II, etc.)

    More to the point, when G.W. Bush received the infamous briefing at his ranch about “Osama determined to attack the U.S.” he dismissed the briefers with the words, “OK, you covered your a****s. Now you can leave.” You may recall that the following month America had the worst attack on it since Pearl Harbor and when informed of it, G.W. kept on reading “The Pet Goat”.

  137. Bush showed great leadership after 9-11. Try again.

  138. aislander says:

    You know that the general caution that “Osama determined to attack the US” was far too general to do anything about, and that W finished reading “My Pet Goat” to the kids to avoid scaring the Democrat out of them…

    You need to quit using the netroots cheap shots, SOW…

  139. Bush showed great leadership after 9-11. Try again.

    You mean, when he read My Pet Goat? Or when he got on Airforce One and was in flight while Cheney made the decisions until a speech could be written for him to claim a political advantage with a bullhorn ontop of the remains?

  140. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I would like to find out what some of the regulars would think about not physically staffing embassies in countries that either can not or will not control terrorist attacks against our people.

    My understanding is that security staffing these days is contracted out to “private contractors” like Xe/Blackwater – increasing the cost to taxpayers immensely. I don’t understand why privatizing our military services is considered appropriate.

    That said – I have read that the consulate was a minor one and there is some confusion as to why Ambassador Stevens was even there in the first place. Perhaps someone who is following this more closely could provide an informative link?

    As we learned in Beirut and with the USS Cole and the Pentagon attacks – even our military installations are not 100% safe from successful attacks by small groups who are willing to spend their own lives in the action. Not certain that installing servicemen as security at every building in every country (including the US – remember OK City) could prevent every possible incidence from occurring.

  141. LeePHilI says:

    “CT8 says:
    Sep. 16, 2012 at 9:25 pm Bush showed great leadership after 9-11.”

    Yeah….he attacked Iraq, who had nothing to do with 9/11

  142. LeePHilI says:

    “CT8 says:
    Sep. 16, 2012 at 4:40 pm And Dukakis was up 17 at this point in the campaign.”

    Dukakis wasn’t an incumbant President running against a one term governor with no foreign affairs experience.

  143. ErnestTBass says:

    Former Intel expert on Obamas missed briefings You Tube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7qOU-ZDxBM

  144. You are right. He did not have to explain 8% unemployment and trillions in debt. No budgets. Arab Winter. War in Afghanistan. Divided nation.

  145. LeePHilI says:

    So in your world, Dukakis should have beat a sitting VP who had low UI, relative debt (his boss tripled it) yadda yadda…..

  146. “I have read that the consulate was a minor one and there is some confusion as to why Ambassador Stevens was even there in the first place. Perhaps someone who is following this more closely could provide an informative link?”

    “The ambassador, Mr. Stevens, was visiting the city Tuesday from the United States Embassy compound in Tripoli to attend the planned opening of an American cultural center, and was staying at the mission.” — http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/middleeast/us-envoy-to-libya-is-reported-killed.html?pagewanted=all

  147. old_benjamin says:

    “Common courtesy dictates that some things should be off limits.”

    At least we have been spared telephotos of Michelle Obama au naturel – for which we may be duly thankful.

  148. o_b – backhanded snarky is still snarky……and only serves to reinforce the stereotype of conservative men having EXTREMELY limited versions of what makes a woman attractive.

  149. Please, like every conservative’s significant other fits some textbook definition of attractive.

    And on a short term basis one can argue that contractors are more expensive. Now calculate the life time costs of a servicemember. These heroes were former SEALs. Their qualifications speak for themselves.

  150. BlaineCGarver says:

    All the usual suspects bleeding at the mouth again…..

  151. BlaineCGarver says:

    You People can get off topic faster than a bunch of loony blondes.

  152. old_benjamin says:

    Au contraire, garcon, the Duchess of Cambridge is attractive however she presents herself. I appreciate her brains and personal charm as much as her beauty. While Michelle is clearly an intelligent woman, I do hope she stays out of papparzzi range when sunbathing.

  153. averageJose says:

    Re:The latest “reliable” poll, from NBC/Wall Street Journal by Marist

    “All of these polls were conducted Sunday through Tuesday, before the flare-ups in the Middle East, before all of that…” Chuck Todd

    I wonder what the percent of oversampling democrats was on THIS one…

  154. averageJose says:

    Michelle O reminds me of Cruella de Vil…

  155. “Michelle O reminds me of Cruella de Vil…”

    Thanks for living down to expectations again.

  156. So….are we to conclude that old_benjamin has actively sought out the topless shots of the duchess?

    And, I’m not sure why he felt the need to repeat his snarky comment about the First Lady. I guess, being a good Christian whose morals are (in)formed by the Bible, his reasons are different than mine.

  157. LeePHilI says:

    I wonder if Concerned got a tingle up his leg seeing Bush in codpiece under “Mission Accomplished”.

    Are these cons really small enough to talk about nude photos of the First Lady? These are the same people who applauded a First Lady who looked like George Washington.

  158. old_benjamin says:

    bB – how did you know the photos were topless? Sneaked a peak perhaps?

    BTW, I have never claimed to be “a good Christian,” just a grateful beneficiary, like John Newton, of “amazing grace.”

  159. averageJose says:

    Oh… and speaking of bB and polls…

    beerBoy says:
    September 10, 2010 at 7:55 am
    It’s interesting how polls are always most significant when they support one’s own views and rather unimportant when they don’t.

    ;)

  160. averageJose says:

    applauded a First Lady who looked like George Washington. (she did LMAO!)

    … cue Jr.
    Thanks for living down to expectations again.

    ;)

  161. “You know that the general caution that “Osama determined to attack the US” was far too general to do anything about”

    Except that other memos warned specifically about al Qaeda hijacking airplanes. Nice try at spin. Failed, but nice.

  162. so what does it say about the recent attacks on our citizens that intelligence was ignored? The guy responsible when 9/11/12 happened is running for reelection, unlike Bush.

    I know you leftists would like to make this election about Bush, but it is not.

  163. “Only 26 percent of those following the news in the Middle East approved of Romney’s statements about the attacks, compared to 48 percent who disapproved” — http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81299.html#ixzz26lPZhxtu

  164. ” The guy responsible when 9/11/12 happened is running for reelection, unlike Bush.”

    Gee, by that standard, Bush shouldn’t have been re-elected in 2004.

  165. MyBandito says:

    Actually this election has alot to do with Bush since he was the one who created the recession that Obama has not yet been able to fully repair. Romney says that he has a plan but his plan looks like the (Bush) plan that got us in this mess. He thinks that the economy will be stimulated if we cut taxes for the overly wealthy.

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

    George Santayana

  166. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

    George Santayana
    _____________________________________________________

    Think Greece. Think Italy, Think Spain, Think Portugal, Look out France. We are headed in the same direction. Maybe we should think of our future and drink a toast to financial sanity.

  167. And the latest QE helps who? And for all his talk, what has BHO done? He had a chance to set the tax rate/reform in 2009-2010 and did nothing but spend and set temp cuts.

    He loves the poor so much he creates more by the day.

  168. And BHO thinks the economy will be stimulated if he taxes the wealthy to a greater extent. Which plan, 0% or 100%, if taken to the extreme, has a better chance of helping the economy. Heck, how does taxing the rich help the economy at all?

    For $5tril in debt we got $1+tril in GDP. Get the govt out of the economy. Let people, rich or poor, make and keep their earnings.

  169. MyBandito says:

    You couldn’t bring yourself to say, “the OVERLY wealthy,” could you?

  170. Think Greece. Think Italy, Think Spain, Think Portugal, Look out France. We are headed in the same direction. Maybe we should think of our future and drink a toast to financial sanity.

    Think Bush, Think 2008 and….if you understand history, think Black Friday – brought on by the same sort of unregulated creation of debt and speculative “investment” that has been the accelerated norm since Reagan, Clinton and Bush made supply side the religion of the land.

  171. Nope, no such thing.

  172. bB – how did you know the photos were topless?

    The headlines in the Guardian UK I read this morning (didn’t bother reading the articles as I don’t bother with meaningless scandal). But, you thought it important enough to post about in order to take a potshot at the First Lady.

  173. LeePHilI says:

    Concocted is still trying to equate 9/11/01 to the recent attack on the Libyan embassy…..and is not one bit successful at it.

  174. “Think Greece. Think Italy, Think Spain, Think Portugal, Look out France.”

    And all those countries are EXACTLY like us, aren’t they? LOL

  175. “He had a chance to set the tax rate/reform in 2009-2010 and did nothing but spend and set temp cuts.”

    243 Republican filibusters in the Senate since Obama was sworn in.

  176. lylelaws says:

    About the only thing lower than trying to discredit or make fun of Presidents and others in the poliical arena for taking some vacation time and golfing or pursuing other forms of recreation is attacking their family members.

    That is why after David Letterman said, “During the seventh inning of the game Sarah Palin and her 14-year-old attended the other day, A-Rod knocked up her daughter.”

    I responded by sending a Letter to the Editor asking, “By the way, Dave, which one of the Three Stooges knocked-up your mom nine months before you were born?”

    I felt guilty about saying that but as Harry Truman said, “If you can’t take the heat stay out of the kitchen.”

  177. Yet they can pass Obamacare as a tax…

  178. old_benjamin says:

    bB, I’m sure you just read the editorials in Playboy too.

    What a guy.

  179. I haven’t read Playboy since I was an adolescent.

  180. old_benjamin says:

    Too bad you left the Church. You’ve have made a fine saint.

  181. Think Greece. Think Italy, Think Spain, Think Portugal, Look out France.”
    ___________________________________________________

    Ehill wrote: And all those countries are EXACTLY like us, aren’t they? LOL
    __________________________________________________

    How do you say messenger…messenger in Greek?

  182. old_benjamin says:

    ἀπόστολος (apóstolos) comes pretty close.

  183. BeerBoy wrote: Think Bush, Think 2008 and….if you understand history, think Black Friday – brought on by the same sort of unregulated creation of debt and speculative “investment” that has been the accelerated norm since Reagan, Clinton and Bush made supply side the religion of the land.
    __________________________________________________

    Does seem to me that the US Government has shown a great deal of “unregulated creaion of debt” capability. It is rather convenient to heap all the blame on supply side economics……can we really point to SSE as the author of $16 trillion in government IOU’s. We have a government that creates social programs without the means to pay for them or redirects taxpayer contributions from those programs that do have a funding source.

    When we start understanding that government is at the root of every economic problem that we face, only then can we start to correct the problem. Party rhetoric keeps us in opposing camps, each blaming the other for the nation’s economic cancer. This blog is proof enough that we thrive on manufactured controversies that offer little hope of solving the real crisis facing us.

  184. “How do you say messenger…messenger in Greek?”

    Apparently, logic is Greek to you. I didn’t mention a messenger.

    Fail. Try again.

  185. I wrote: Think Greece. Think Italy, Think Spain, Think Portugal, Look out France.”
    ___________________________________________________

    Ehill wrote: And all those countries are EXACTLY like us, aren’t they? LOL
    __________________________________________________

    I replied: How do you say messenger…messenger in Greek?
    __________________________________________________

    Ehill sagely provided a suprising two-liner: Apparently, logic is Greek to you. I didn’t mention a messenger.

    Fail. Try again.
    ________________________________________________

    Using your superior Greek logic, please explain just how debt did not create the financial problems now exploding in parts of Europe. Tell us all how trickle down economics caused the Irish, Greek, Portugese and Spanish economic troubles. You are definitely the primere one-liner idiot that couldn’t recognize logic if it was tattooed on the end of your nose.

  186. Nice try at changing the subject away from the fact that I didn’t mention a messenger. Think anyone noticed?

  187. Does seem to me that the US Government has shown a great deal of “unregulated creaion of debt” capability.

    Obtuseness as a strategy may work with the obtuse but it don’t work with me.

    Clearly, the Banks/Financial Industry were able to engage in reckless speculator Debt creation (I can’t call it capitalism as what passes for capitalism these days has no interest in manufacturing anything but debt which it sells to some poor suckers who think they can get out before the whole pyramid comes crashing down) only because Congress – supported by various Presidents – got rid of the regulations that prevented these activities.

    Really, if you are going to come back with stupidly snarky comments I am going to have to sadly conclude that you are actually stupid and snarky.

  188. BB, is it really obtuse to place the blame at the feet of a feckless government and its spendthrift politicians? Trying to cast any
    economic system as the primary culprit in our doomsday financial situation is similar to blaming a credit card for bankruptcy.

    I will continue to address comments to ehill which befit his role as one-liner-in-chief of the far left. If you view them as stupidly snarky, that is your perogative. Any poster who continually refers to others as liars deserves snarky.

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