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9/11: Commemorative flags taken from yard

Letter by Kerri D. Williams, University Place on Sep. 11, 2012 at 3:08 pm with 74 Comments »
September 11, 2012 3:08 pm

For the past 11 years, my family has put flags in our front yard to remember the victims of the 9/11 attacks and to honor the first responders. My husband, Mike, and my son, Ryan, completed this task last night. However, when we woke up this morning, our flags that were so strategically placed in our front yard were gone. Only one was left in the hedge by our mailbox.

These flags were not expensive, but the point is that the person or persons who took them knew that today was a day not one American will ever forget. My family and I are proud to be Americans and show it by displaying these flags yearly. We just hope that whoever took these flags in the dark of night is proud to be an American, too.

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  1. taxedenoughintacoma says:

    Want to bet it was the same anti-American democrats that hate America, hate the military, hate God and hate a balanced budget.

  2. taxed – you really are divisive at every opportunity. Your post is just as destructive and counter to what should be commemorated on 9/11 as the idiot vandal(s) who stole the flags.

    I will take that bet – and counter that it probably was some dumb kid(s) who have no political interests at all. who broke into Dad’s liquor cabinet.

  3. Frankenchrist says:

    Obviously Dick Cheney is creeping your neighborhood and wants you to forget that he and Chimpy McBush ignored the CIA’s warnings about 9/11.

    Also, please forget the embarassing moment when Bush froze when Andy Card told him about the attacks.

  4. Waiting for Bb to scold FC….

  5. Ms Williams,
    Thank you and your family for remembering the day and for putting the flags up.

  6. bbsbxringrliars says:

    Give them back BB, figures that you still live at home in the basement…Frankenchrist, BB named you as his toady in crime “as the idiot vandal”, a spot on description. You should be ashamed but since you have no shame, that is impossible….

  7. LeePHilI says:

    “CT8 says:
    Sep. 11, 2012 at 4:33 pm Waiting for Bb to scold FC….”

    Waiting for CT to comprehend the difference between a right wing divisive jerk and a lefty making fun of him

  8. LeePHilI says:

    “bbsbxringrliars”

    WOW….someone has a major resentment. Making up monikers to display it?

    “spot on”….

    “have no shame”…..

    Hmmm….wonder who over uses those terms….

  9. SwordofPerseus says:

    Probably a senior prank perpetrated by Curtis seniors, they probably meant no disrespect. Sadly many people have forgotten 9/11 and I would wager most kids under 18 have no idea what it even means.

  10. Kerri, I thank you for putting out the flags as a reminder of 9/11. I don’t know what motivates people to vandalize or steal, but I love what you said at the end of your letter, “We just hope that whoever took these flags in the dark of night is proud to be an American, too.”

    If by chance they were young people, maybe one day they will understand what those flags represented. One of the best projects I have ever seen to help young people understand patriotism is what Clover Park High School students do every Memorial Day; a marker for every soldier lost in our current war is placed in the front lawn of the school. When it becomes personal there is a whole new level of understanding in the hearts and minds of young people. To my knowledge I don’t believe the display has ever been vandalized.

    Thank you for your letter and for raising your son to already know what it means to have pride in our country and to show empathy for others. Blessings to you.

  11. lylelaws says:

    Testing,

  12. If “Clinton” had taken one of the “TWO” opportunities “HE” had to take out Bin Laden, “WE” wouldn’t ever had to go to Iraq & Afghanistan, and, if Clinton, Bush 1&2 or Bama had the “cahones” to push the button like Truman did in WWll, gas would be 2 cents a barrel !!! Political Correctness is killing America

  13. hellbntrn says:

    Thanks Kerri for thinking of those who serve and for those who were murdered on that horrific day. After today’s events in Cairo and some other meaningless country that doesn’t come to mind, the demonic hatred is still there. I only wished that the Marines guarding the embassy in Cairo would have been given the authority to defend this country’s property today to the last man. Obviously some politician saw to it again that we turn and run, and beg for forgiveness. And to think that our government gives Egypt 1 Billion a year, FOR WHAT!! Had that been their Embassy in this country, our police force would have defended to the last bullet. As for you progressive whiners on this blog, step in front of a fast moving truck.

  14. Maybe it was the same bunch that overran our embassy in Cairo.

    Thanks to Obama the world knows we’re a paper tiger.

  15. LeePHilI says:

    “Thanks to Obama the world knows we’re a paper tiger.”

    Which president got Bin Laden and has done the most damage to Al Quaida?

    Someone is highly ignorant of the facts of Obama and our enemies.

    By the way….the Embassy was empty. Try reading something for a change.

  16. Oh Larry Larry. You’re not really going for the whole Bin Laden thing are you?
    The same Bin Laden Valerie Jarrett convinced Obama to not kill 3 times?
    Fourth time’s a charm? Some Commander in Chief.

    Open your eyes and ears, look past the golf course out back of your house. The Arab world hates us and always will.

    Osama Bin Laden… Sheese.

  17. One recent president supported the overthrow of two regimes led by extremists. One recent president supported the overthrow of stable regimes and handed them to extremists.

    By the way, anybody else see mask Guy Fawkes mask being worn by a terrorist on the embassy wall? Where else have we seen those recently….

  18. surething says:

    Hey, old mean bastards….it was probably stupid kids. Quit making it more than it is, give us a break.

    Jesus, can we address something and keep it on topic?

  19. MyBandito says:

    It was either stupid kids in the neighborhood, maybe Ryan’s friends, playing a prank, OR, it could have been a local cell of Right wing or Left wing extremist working under the cover of darkness heII bent on gathering up all the American flags in the world with the sole purpose of taking over our country while we slept.

    We can’t be too careful. There are mean people out there.

    Next year put new flags in your front yard. Post round the clock surveillance and report back if you see any more UN-American activity in your neighborhood.

  20. dlockner says:

    The almost complete breakdown of civil discourse in the replies to letter and story’s explains why there is no like/dislike or direct reply to individual letters in the TNT. You people only succeed in looking foolish. If you were more fully educated you would have learned that the first one to deviate from the accepted rules of debate has already lost it. I want to thank the flag flyers and those who responded with compassion for their grace. I have no appropriate words of my own for the rest of you so i will borrow a few from the President of Ireland to describe what I think you are: “little wankers”. Yes, i know. For me the debate has ended.

  21. according to the official story, a handful of Arabs, mainly Saudi Arabians, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service, men without James Bond and V for Vendetta capabilities, outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs.
    [...]
    The humiliating failure of US National Security did not result in immediate demands from the President of the United States, from Congress, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and from the media for an investigation of how such improbable total failure could have occurred. No one was held accountable for the greatest failure of national security in world history. Instead, the White House dragged its feet for a year resisting any investigation until the persistent demands from 9/11 families for accountability forced President George W. Bush to appoint a political commission, devoid of any experts, to hold a pretend investigation.

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/09/11/the-11th-anniversary-911-paul-craig-roberts/

  22. “it was the same anti-American democrats that hate America, hate the military, hate God and hate a balanced budget.”

    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response — Wikipedia

  23. Except, ehill, that quote is 100% accurate.

    What you just described is BB’s last post.

  24. LeePHilI says:

    “The same Bin Laden Valerie Jarrett convinced Obama to not kill 3 times?”

    HUH????????? The same Valerie Jarrett that was outted by the Bush Administration and hasn’t worked in government since Obama took over?

    Looks like Whirled Net Daily is working overtime…

    What’s the next conspiracy?

    “The Arab world hates us and always will.”

    Maybe we need to hold hands with them more….

    When the United States stops trying to run the world, they will run into less conflict. Of course, there is nothing our conservatives love more than a good skirmish. I think it will be great to see who is financing this latest adventure in Eqypt and how many American oil people are friends with them…

    Oh and the fundamentalist Christians of the US???? Then can now say “see….we told you so”. Who made the film?

  25. ct – please point out anything in the Paul Craig Roberts quote I posted that isn’t an accurate reflection of what happened.

  26. “that quote is 100% accurate.”

    Exactly. The quote from Wikipedia describing the first post as the work of a troll was VERY accurate.

  27. BB, you have posted this before, haven’t you? Are you a truther like the author?

    Bush was in charge less than 8 months. The changes in structure can and should be blamed on the previous admin.

    Yes, the intel and military community was caught off guard. Is there a point to any of this? Problems were addressed and Homeland Defense was made much stronger.

    Are you one of those that blames some video, not the extremists for killing our personnel in Libya?

  28. averageJose says:

    Kerri, that’s the world we live in… where some people actually believe that if they desire something someone else has they are entitled to it. They simply saw something they wanted, took a que from Barry, and redistributed those flags to themselves.

  29. LeePHilI says:

    My mistake. Jarrett is so high profile and is so involved in foreign affairs that I should have known she was a “senior advisor”.

    Let’s dig into this silly story about her counsel on Bin Laden….

    When you search “Valerie Jarrett tells Obama not to kill Bin Laden”, you get a gaggle of the most ridiculous of the ridiculous right wing blogs. They are stories about a book written by Richard Miniter.

    Let’s take a look at Richard:

    “Miniter was the editorial page editor and Vice President of Opinion at The Washington Times” Kinda says it all…doesn’t it???? A Vice President of Reverend Moon’s little rag. Of course, he didn’t like the idea of being pressured to attend the Unification Church and sued Moon and Company.

    I wonder where Miniter gets all of his inside information on alleged conversations between advisors and the President? In Moonland, you usually can just make stuff up, if you’d like.

    I’m glad to know he’s non-partisan.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/07/18/why-the-democratic-party-is-doomed/

    With Jarrett’s high profile and such….you’d think that at least one network would have covered the story….even FOX…

    Oh wait…here’s something….

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/29/opinion/bergen-obama-osama-books/index.html

    “Richard Miniter, the author of a number of books with a conservative slant about U.S. national security, has just released a new one about President Barack Obama whose title, “Leading From Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors who Decide for Him,” leaves you in little doubt about the overall theme of the book.”

    Enough said. Considering I wasn’t aware that Jarrett was even working, I’m gonna guess she doesn’t control the President….

  30. Since you don’t even know who she is (and shame on you for that) why is she so invlved with day to day decisions?

  31. LeePHilI says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett

    Oh geeez….I mistook “Jarrett” for “Plame” How silly….need more coffee…

    Yeah…when you read Jarrett’s bio you can see she would be right there in the thick of things advising the President on killing a terrorist leader :::::heavy sarcasm:::::

  32. LeePHilI says:

    “why is she so invlved with day to day decisions?”

    She is???? Or is this just the fiction of a writer….as CNN outlines?

    I wonder if she was in the picture with the Prez and Hillary and crew the night of the killing?

    Why would someone with a background in real estate be a foreign affairs advisor to the President…..or is she?

    Shame on you for being a rube that buys into sensationalism.

  33. LeePHilI says:

    “HUH????????? The same Valerie Jarrett that was outted by the Bush Administration and hasn’t worked in government since Obama took over?”

    shame on you for not knowing that I pulled a faux pas….

    Someone who knows so much about Jarrett would have caught my error.

    Or do you?

  34. keep dancing Hill.

  35. leehallfae says:

    About all one can say: Vandalism and theft happen, and maybe next year, your family will use flags that are so secured they cannot be easily removed.

    Kind of like how some people have their mailboxes reinforced with concrete.

  36. The Flag should not have to be guarded or secured in concrete. It speaks to our values as a nation.

  37. Some put the miniature flags out for the public to take

  38. Bush was in charge less than 8 months. The changes in structure can and should be blamed on the previous admin.

    Pure unadulterated bull manure.

    So…..because the Bush Administration were slow learners and didn’t pay attention to the Presidential Daily Briefings that indicated that bin Laden was determined to attack us on our soil – it is Clinton’s fault!

    Wow, the Party of “individual responsibility” sure makes a lot of lame excuses.

  39. I will post it again: What, exactly, is inaccurate in the Paul Craig Roberts quote I posted?

    If nothing is inaccurate in that statement – how can you dismiss it as “truther” nonsense?

  40. mcgintey says:

    Give us a break, Taxedenough.

  41. itwasntmethistime says:

    Next year she should string them along an electric fence wire. We can all hide in the neighbors yard and get a good laugh watching some teenage punks get zapped.

  42. “Are you one of those that blames some video, not the extremists for killing our personnel in Libya?

    ROFLMAO – that’s absolutely hysterical, coming from someone who just got through blaming Clinton for 9/11! Thanks for such a great laugh!

  43. Frankenchrist says:

    It’s vile and disgusting how Mitt Romney is trying to politicize the death of the U.S. Ambassador to Libya. Even conservative commentators on Faux News say the Mittwit is way out of line.

    Romney is beyond shame. His nauseating attack on this day of mourning makes me physically ill. Excuse me while I hurl my cornflakes.

  44. After you hurl, take a reality check about the world we are living in fc. Imagine what would be happening today if a group of Christians savagely murdered a group of diplomats, shredded their flag and mounted a cross in its place.

    And before you blast the makers of the film that so outraged these murderers, remember that the National Endowment for the Arts in the U.S. supported the work of a man who illustrated Christ in a vat of urine.

    It’s called freedom.
    I’m curious, what do you think of our president’s plans for today given current events…to carry on with his fundraising activities in Las Vegas?

  45. nonstopjoe says:

    Use flags with metal flagpoles and hook them up to a wire plugged into an electric socket. This would provide would-be thieves with a “shocking experience.”

  46. LeePHilI says:

    “Imagine what would be happening today if a group of Christians savagely murdered a group of diplomats, shredded their flag and mounted a cross in its place.”

    You mean like the groups of Christians that used to burn down churches and hang people for the crime of being Black? What did happen? As I recall, in Mississippi, they were aquitted by a judge who was understanding that their behavior was because of “outside agitators”.

  47. And before you blast the makers of the film that so outraged these murderers,remember that the National Endowment for the Arts in the U.S. supported the work of a man who illustrated Christ in a vat of urine.

    Oh please sozo…..remind us how the religious right is all for censuring art – just like the Taliban.

  48. It is interesting that someone who declares their belief in all of the 10 Commandments is so readily offended by a picture of a cheap plastic crucifix (graven image??????) in a glass of urine.

    btw – the image itself is not offensive, just the idea that the artist put a piece of plastic in a glass of urine.

  49. What happened to the marines guarding the consolutes embassies? Would have been a nice time for target practice!

  50. Frankenchrist says:

    Sozo,

    I presume you are referring to the brilliant piece of conceptual art by Andres Serrano. Bravo!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

    However, this went on display over 25-years ago. Get over it, man.

  51. Not sure which is worse, the idea of some Tacoma low-life stealing private property, or most of the moronic comments made in these threads.

    And to the letter writer, there’s a painful lesson about living anywhere near Tacoma.

    Never, ever set yourself apart from the crowd.

    Never do or say anything that would draw attention to yourself.

    Be invisible. Life is so much easier that way living in this petty berg.

  52. LeePHilI says:

    “XBJ98N says:
    Sep. 12, 2012 at 2:06 pm Not sure which is worse, the idea of some Tacoma low-life stealing private property, or most of the moronic comments made in these threads.”

    Don’t be so hard on TaxedEnough. He always says that kind of stuff.

    Meanwhile, since this thread is addressing the Egypt issue, our President again, reminded us of why he is so well respected as a leader. After Romney inserted his foot all the say down to his bellybutton, President Obama commented, when asked, “Governor Romney shoots first and takes aim later”.

  53. averageJose says:

    so readily offended by a picture of a cheap plastic crucifix… last time I checked sozo wasn’t running around killing people and dragging their body in the street yelling “Obama! Obama! We are all Osama!”

    Maybe I missed it.
    ….
    Oh yea… so Kerri’s flags were stolen.

  54. JLSchweizer says:

    I just want to throw it out there that all American flags, regardless of size, should be properly lit during hours of darkness. If they weren’t, then I can imagine that theft of a flag would be someone’s reminder not to leave them out at night without that proper lighting.

    I have talked to business owners whose flags are torn, telling them that their flag is not fit for flight. No, it never goes over well, but respect the flag.

  55. Recent Ohio poll of Republicans = three-quarters of them thought Romney deserved some credit for getting Bin Laden, and one-fifth thought Romney deserved more credit than the President.

  56. bbsbxringrliars says:

    You have a problem xring? Your boy has been taking credit and blaming other constantly…Bush was the greatest, Clinton the worst and Obama garbage…

  57. Since he is part of the 50% that fund the military, and part of the population that pays way more than his fair share, he deserves more credit than BHO.

  58. Your boy has been….

    Your boy????? You mean the duly-elected President of the United States?

  59. Ummmm…..ct….even if you believe your bizarre logic that tax payers deserve more credit than the Commander in Chief for the military operation that took out bin Laden – Obama is, in addition to being the Commander in Chief, a tax payer too.

    btw – because posts made in response to other posts are sometimes separated, the use of pronouns in your post made it difficult to discern exactly what you were referring to.

  60. averageJose says:

    Look at all the terrorists Obama has created since he became president.

  61. “Look at all the terrorists Obama has created since he became president.”

    Blame America first.

  62. bbsw/CT8 – lies upon lies upon more lies. So typical of mineless fox bats.

  63. averageJose says:

    “Obama… Obama… we are all Osama”

  64. So the Associated Press did a careful investigation of the ‘Sam Bacile’ who supposedly directed the hate film, ‘The Innocence of Muslims.’ And AP found that probably he does not exist, but is a persona used by a convicted Coptic Egyptian fraudster, Nakoula Bassely Nakoula.

    But the story gets more complex. Nakoula had Coptic and evangelical associates in the shooting of the film, including Steve Klein, a former Marine and current extremist Christian who has helped train militiamen in California churches and has led “protests outside abortion clinics, Mormon temples and mosques.” My guess is that most of the Egyptian Copts involved are converts to American-style fundamentalism.

    The Egyptian Coptic church has roundly condemned the hateful film they made smearing the Prophet Muhammad.

    Anyway, the bigotry of the edited film, directed at Muslims, is part of a movement of religious prejudice that also targets . . . Mormons.

    http://www.readersupportednews.org/opinion2/289-134/13458-romney-jumps-the-shark-libya-egypt-and-the-butterfly-effect

  65. averageJose says:

    Opinion ? Kooky.

    beerBoy says:
    October 11, 2011 at 6:18 am
    You quoted an blog – not a news story – another person’s opinion to support your opinion.
    Try using your brain, it might work if you give it some exercise.

    :D

  66. In Cairo, the rally allegedly got out of hand because the Ultras or soccer ruffians joined in, and they were probably the ones who tore down the American flag and ran up a black Muslim-fundamentalist one. Ultras are not fundamentalists but they are mischievous and resent authority, so a superpower that backs the army and police they hate might be a target of their wrath. There may have also been a handful of al-Qaeda supporters there, not surprising on the anniversary of September 11. The crowd at the American embassy was tiny by Egyptian protest standards.

    http://www.readersupportednews.org/opinion2/289-134/13458-romney-jumps-the-shark-libya-egypt-and-the-butterfly-effect

  67. averageJose says:

    I would think you would have supported “Sam”. He pretended to be an Israeli born Jew possibly in an attempt to smear Israel and Jews. Aren’t the enemies of your enemies your friend?

  68. averageJose says:

    So you’re claiming it was spontaneous?

  69. averageJose says:

    For the second time… so you’re claiming it was spontaneous? ;)

    (see if we get to 6)

  70. To clarify for outside readers: yungboi started an ad hominem attack on me based on a quote I posted. I challenged him to point out any inaccuracies in the quote.

    This attempt to goad me into a discussion is by someone I haven’t been engaging for the past week or so and appears to be a rather pathetic attempt to get me to pay attention to him.

  71. averageJose says:

    Somebody is pouting… your so funny.

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