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9/11: Overcome our national PTSD

Letter by Margot LeRoy, Gig Harbor on Sep. 10, 2012 at 9:57 am with 51 Comments »
September 10, 2012 10:23 am

We are once again remembering that tragic day 11 years ago when our country experienced a traumatic act of terror. Every year we seem to need to relive that nightmare and go back to the violence and fear of that terrible day.

What has come to concern me is how it changed us as a nation. Most of those changes have not been positive. Just as our soldiers experience moments of rage, with their post-traumatic stress syndrome, we have yet to get control of our own anger because of that horrible event.

Partisan anger is extremely vicious and divisive. The sense of trust has been replaced by bitterness and suspicion. Muslims are still not accepted as members of our society. Their mosques are not welcomed in communities. Recently, one was burned to the ground in Joplin, Mo. The community of Joplin experienced its own recent trauma, and this event did not help.

As a nation, we need to recover and move forward. We need to start working together on serious problems and put our anger away. It hasn’t solved any problems and has made some much worse. Watching all this evolve into a crippling symbol of who we are is just wrong for America and Americans.

We should never forget what happened that day, but if we don’t make it a part of our past, even in death, Osama bin Laden wins. Light a candle, say a prayer and go volunteer in your community or your church. Make a difference. It will help.

Leave a comment Comments → 51
  1. aislander says:

    PTSD isn’t our problem. ADHD is…

  2. Frankenchrist says:

    Is Usama bin Laden better off now than he was four years ago?

  3. averageJose says:

    So true aislander.

  4. I would agree as well aislander. I do recognize the tendency for the news media to exploit disaster, however, and running film footage of the events of 9/11 may fall into that category to some degree.

    But what troubles me most about events subsequent to 9/11 has been the determination by some to scapegoat America, and by doing so, virtually excuse the actions of those responsible for the slaughter of innocents, including kids on field trips that morning.

    Mind you, we should be fully aware of the ways in which greed and corruption have infected our society– own up to it and do what needs to be done to clean up the mess, but to hear people still echo the Ward Churchhill/Jeremiah Wright crap about chickens coming home to roost is very troubling to me. As if anything could justify the cowardice of those terrorists and the horror of that day, especially when pausing to consider all the ways the U.S. has offered assistance to people the world over.

    Perhaps the single most offensive thing about our current president is his identity with the anti-American crowd. Clearly he sat at Wright’s knee and was thoroughly indoctrinated. The moment he threw Wright under the bus I found it hard to trust anything he said. He is not, imo, intellectually honest or trustworthy.

  5. aislander says:

    sozo writes: “[Obama] is not, imo, intellectually honest or trustworthy.”

    I agree, but I don’t believe that is so much a character flaw as it is the behavior of a committed revolutionary for whom the ends justify the means. “Lying for justice” is a time-honored tactic of the left.

    In the context of this thread, can anyone name the other prominent cohort for whom lying is proper behavior?

  6. Frankenchrist says:

    The GOP is the party of old white men who talk to empty chairs. The rest of the nation will vote for Obama.

    Romney/Ryan is going down in flames. Better shake the Etch-a-Sketch again!

    It will be interesting watching as repuke heads around the nation simultaneously explode as Obama is inaugurated for his second term.

  7. alindasue says:

    sozo said, “I would agree as well aislander. I do recognize the tendency for the news media to exploit disaster, however, and running film footage of the events of 9/11 may fall into that category to some degree.”

    I would agree with both of you on that too.

    However, I have to wonder which is more “un-American”:
    Listening to teachers and preachers with “radical” or “commie” beliefs and not really acting on those influences
    Taking advantage of the nations shock and grief proclaiming words of “Remember 9/11!” while wasting the lives of our soldiers (not to mention the financial costs) in a “preemptive” war with a country that up to that point had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks?

    True evidence of the nation’s ADHD is that President Bush was able to use “Remember 9/11″ to maintain support for his war for so long. People forget so easily that it was a radical splinter group not attached to any country (Al Qaeda) and not Saddam Hussein and Iraq that attacked our people.

  8. SwordofPerseus says:

    Speak for yourself ‘slander. Americas biggest problem is not ADHD or PTSD, it is denial and ignorance. Ignorance of our own wrongdoings the world over, under the name of the CIA, IMF or Word Bank by helping out so many people.

    True, Americans That is not the problem.

    The problem is our imperialism and gunboat diplomacy spearheaded by the MIC and the complicit media. The problem is we are loath to do any self examination in the light of honesty. The truth is not on the airwaves, or in mainstream print media, these were usurped by the corporatocracy for their own benefit over the last forty years.

    The truth is out there, it is far more frightening and disheartening than you might think. You won’t find it in the right wing noise machine or the Democratic talking points either, they are feeding at the trough as well. To solve this the only thing to do is to reform campaign financing, eliminate the corporate lobby industry. And most of all eliminate the FED.

  9. Wow, that was a lot of conspiracy for one post. You left off Area 51 and the moon landing.

  10. SwordofPerseus says:

    Area 51 and the Apollo project have nothing to do with 9/11 Conc. You are the winner of the dim bulb award again.

  11. SwordofPerseus says:

    The reason the psyche of the American public was permanently damaged on Sept. 11, 2001 is because we innately can distinguish a lie from the truth. We wanted to believe what we were being told. It is just that the lies became harder and hard to swallow, and now we live in a world where the government lied about the events of 9/11 and we have been at war ever since, longer than the civil war and WWII combined. No conclusions were ever drawn as to the exact cause of the collapse of three steel reinforced concrete buildings on the same day. One of which (WTC 7) was never even hit by a plane!

    “As official videographer for the U.S. government, Kurt Sonnenfeld was detailed to Ground Zero on September 11, 2001, where he spent one month filming 29 tapes: “What I saw at certain moments and in certain places … is very disturbing!”
    He never handed them over to the authorities and has been persecuted ever since. Kurt Sonnenfeld lives in exile in Argentina, where he wrote « El Perseguido » (the persecuted). His recently-published book tells the story of his unending nightmare and drives another nail into the coffin of the government’s account of the 9/11 events.”

    read more here:http://world911truth.org/911-fema-videographer-at-ground-zero-goes-public/

  12. lylelaws says:


    Did you think Saddam might have had weapons of mass destruction or not before we took action?

    If I remember correctly, even then Senator Hillary Clinton supported the invasion of Iraq.

    Hindsight is always 20-20 but as far I am concerned, since Saddam wouldn’t grant unfettered inspection and wanted the world to believe that he did possess WMD’s he was to blame for the war.

    If we error it should be on the side of the safety of the American people.

  13. How many times have you been ‘probed”?

  14. SwordofPerseus says:

    “In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I
    never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where
    the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators
    from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify
    the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft
    — and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. …

    The government alleges that four wide-body airliners
    crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of
    more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft
    evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential
    evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

    With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon
    crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that
    a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with
    all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was
    most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the
    ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

    As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives
    and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most
    troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans
    appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country’s

    Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former
    U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts
    authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force

  15. alindasue says:

    lylelaws said, “Did you think Saddam might have had weapons of mass destruction or not before we took action?”

    At the time the United Nations was investigating the situation. President Bush in his impatience did an end-run around the UN and took action of his own.

    As far as I was concerned, they weren’t likely to have any more WMDs than the countries surrounding them – and certainly fewer WMDs than the US has. I’ve always had major issues with the ‘we got them, but nobody else is allowed to’ attitude when it comes to international “defense” policies.

  16. lylelaws says:


    So do you think Iran wants to get the bomb so they can use it to defend against Israel or the U.S.?

    Weapons used for defense can also be used for offense and it is the sworn goal of Iran is to wipe Israel off of the face of the earth.

    I don’t practice religion, but I like to think that I do practice common sense and every time another nation acquires weapons of mass destruction the world is less safe.

  17. aislander says:

    So, alindasue, OUR having nuclear weapons is JUST the same as Iran’s having them?


  18. Incredible that she would want the US to not have an advantage. Incredible.

  19. normajean says:

    What happened on 9/11 was horrific. I was working for Merrill Lynch at the time & will never forget how it truly changed a nation. I have asked myself many times as to why this happened. Why did these terrorists hate this nation so much as to willingly die for their cause? What was done to these people to cause such hatred?

  20. alindasue says:

    lylelaws said, “…every time another nation acquires weapons of mass destruction the world is less safe.”

    I feel the same way about the USA acquiring further weapons of mass destruction. People don’t own guns (or, in this case, nuclear weapons) unless they intend to some day use them.

    CT8, I feel that the USA should be able to easily defend itself. I do not agree with the concept of “Manifest Destiny”, nor do I feel it is right for us alone to dictate policy for the rest of the world.

  21. aislander says:

    normajean: Sometimes evil is just evil.

    Why do you believe something was done to bring that evil upon us?

    Radical Islam is a malignant religion-cum-ideology that motivated the terrorists, and we cannot blame ourselves and we must not change the ways we engage with the world.

    Oderint Dum Metuant: “Let them hate so long as they fear.”
    Lucius Accius

  22. aislander says:

    alindasue writes: ” People don’t own guns (or, in this case, nuclear weapons) unless they intend to some day use them.”

    That isn’t thought, it’s a slogan and a crappy one at that. If you DID think and reflect on history you would understand that it is crap.

    Don’t you think it would have been easier, quicker, and cheaper to end the Soviet Union coming out of WWII when we had a monopoly on nuclear weapons? But we didn’t.

    Why do you think that was? Hint: it wasn’t because we didn’t understand the threat posed by the USSR…

  23. lylelaws says:


    “Willing to die for their cause?” What cause? Destroying the way of life of the freest country in the history of the world?

  24. MyBandito says:

    Lylelaws is attempting to rationalize the lack of rational on the part of the paranoid Right. It seems that PPD is their 9/11 disorder.

  25. Alindasue, it’s called deterrence. And no one is talking about more WMDs. Perhaps modernizing what we have.

    Manifest Destiny? What are you talking about?

  26. SwordofPerseus says:

    Normajean-I agree that the events of 9/11 were tragic. The truth is this attack was allowed to happen, if not directly facilitated by our own leaders at the time. Specifically by members of the Bush administration who were neo-cons and architects of the PNAC. They needed a reason to go to war. They were aware of the plot to fly planes into targets in New York months in advance of the attack. They further conspired to completely shock the American people and to do this they needed a world changing event, namely the very visible destruction of the World Trade Center Towers. This could not be accomplished without complete demolition of the towers. This event was planned and coordinated at the highest levels of our own government, and has been covered up for over nearly eleven years. Yes Normajean sometimes evil is just evil.

  27. averageJose says:

    What was done to these people to cause such hatred?

    We don’t worship allah.

  28. SwordofPerseus says:

    Could it be that the United States Government has supported and encouraged various dictatorial regimes throughout the middle east namely the Saudi’s, Mubaric, and even at one time Saddam Hussein? Or perhaps our involvement in the 1953 coup d’ètat of the democratically elected Iranian President Mossaddegh? Not sure which particular event/events turned them against us. Most of the alleged 19 “hijackers” were Saudi’s, several of whom are still alive.

  29. alindasue says:

    aislander said, “If you DID think and reflect on history you would understand that it is crap.”

    I reflect on history more than you know.

    CT8 said, “Manifest Destiny? What are you talking about?”

    “Manifest Destiny” is a historical term used to justify US expansion across the American continent. It was thought to be the will of God that we expand and tame these wild lands.

    It was later effectively continued by the Monroe Doctrine that essentially placed the United States in the self-appointed role of “international police power”. That’s a role the US still finds itself in and one which I seriously disagree with, especially in these days when we have such organizations like the United Nations and NATO to cover international concerns like renegade regimes or terrorist organization. The United States no longer needs to act – nor should act – as the world’s main police power.

    The only “deterrence” that comes from owning nuclear weapons and other WMDs comes from the thought that we might possibly use them if provoked. In fact, with all the countries that have developed nuclear weapons capability, we are still the ONLY country that has actually used nuclear weapons against another country or people. We are still the world’s biggest superpower – HOWEVER in taking on the role of preemptively starting wars and “police actions” against any non-ally country that looks like it may also be developing nuclear capability, we are now also the world’s biggest hypocrites.

  30. I actually agree that we are “loath to do any self-examination” much of the time. In fact, very few individuals, let alone societies are willing to examine themselves with candor. It is my opinion that the U.S. has turned away from God and his loving guidance for righteous living, and we ARE suffering the consequences of that turning, just as people throughout biblical history did. We’re in a mess of our own making. But this does not make us unique.

    Find me a society in which greed, abuse of power and corrupt politics do not infect and poison the society. Human beings are broken; abuse of power, greed and corruption will always rise to the surface.

    There will always be the threat of war; the threat of one country seeking dominance over another. A strong defense, including a powerful arsenal does NOT indicate a desire to use the weapons for anything other than defense.

    I don’t feel like rehashing the WMD discussion. Clearly leaders on both sides of the aisle agreed that Hussein should be stopped in his tracks. HIndsight is just that, hindsight. We do the best we can with the information provided, as in “intelligence.”

    Finally, let’s just say purely for argument’s sake that the terrorists rage was legitimate, how does that in any way justify or ameliorate their actions? It doesn’t of course. What they did 11 years ago today was evil, pure and simple. They did not engage in battle with other warriors, they slaughtered innocent people. We would be utter fools to not see these people for what they are. The one thing government must do (and this is coming from one who seeks always to limit the role of government in our lives) is protect the innocent to the best of our ability,and yes, this will sometimes lead to a measure of regret. But, the U.S.A. has always tried to be an advocate for the helpless and I hope she will always stand up for them.

    When I say “God bless America” I am not uttering a patriotic slogan, I am saying a prayer, and I say it every day.

  31. When I say “God bless America” I am not uttering a patriotic slogan, I am saying a prayer

    Unfortunately sozo, when it comes to American politicians, they cannot prosper with a private faith, they must proclaim their belief in (a Christian) God as loudly as they can in order to avoid being attacked by the opponents.

    Faith in God is just a political bumper sticker.

  32. A strong defense, including a powerful arsenal does NOT indicate a desire to use the weapons for anything other than defense.

    Unfortunately, the US’ history of involvement in military actions (both covert and overt) has been uninterrupted since WWII and it DOES indicate a desire to use the weapons for other than strictly defensive purposes.

  33. However sozo, it does seem a bit paradoxical that many believe that the US and Israeli nuclear armaments are strictly defensive when the POTENTIAL Iranian bomb has to be considered as an offensive threat.

  34. alindasue says:

    averageJose said, “We don’t worship allah.”

    Yes, in essence, most of us do.

    The God that Islamic people call “Allah” is the same God that the Jews call “Yahweh”. They both follow the same laws passed down to the people from God through Moses. That is the reason that “kosher” and “halal” foods are virtually identical – the only real difference being the organizations that certify them. Their cultures may have diversified quite a bit – but at the roots, they are both worshiping the same God.

    We Christians also worship the same God. We believe “Jehovah” – Jesus – to be the literal son of that same “Yahweh” that the Jews worship. I know of no Christian sect that ever stopped worshiping the Father “Yahweh” when Jesus came along…

    So, even Christians worship “Yahweh” who is also known by Islamic people as “Allah”.

  35. What hasn’t been asked is – what have we lost, as citizens, due – not to the threat of terrorism – but due to our willingness to give up our Constitutional rights in response to fear?

    There are no more protections against unreasonable search and seizure. There is no more habeus corpus. All of us are under more and more surveillance. Citizens have been sentenced to death and executed by executive order. The president may declare anyone an “enemy combatant” and held without charge, without access to legal representation, indefinitely.

    “We” have given up our freedoms and damaged this Republic far more than any terrorist could.

  36. It is really sad that, following the delusions of hate-televangelists like Rod Parsley, “religious” types believe that the God of Abraham is somehow different depending upon which of the three Abrahamic religions one ascribes to.

  37. aislander says:

    beerBoy and alindasue are both beginning with flawed premises. Anywhere they go from there HAS to be wrong…

    Some politicians pretend a faith they don’t really have, but for those on the left, their true faith is in government and their own personal power.

    If we play nice and don’t react to perceived threats as they grow, we’ll be run over like all the other chump nations of history. This can work to create peace if we submit passively and forget about freedom, because we sure as hell won’t be setting our own agenda.

  38. We know that Saddam had WMD at one time (but didn’t when we used that as a rationale to attack him) because the US sold them to him.

    And, for the folks that think that Saddam (and now, Iran) should have admitted more freely that he didn’t have them in order to avoid being invaded – then all of your blather about deterence based upon other countries’ perception of your superior firepower and willingness to use it is only valid for the US?

  39. aislander – Identify my “flawed premise” and demonstrate why it is flawed. Your dismissal by label of an unidentified premise that you state is flawed is made of straw until you demonstrate its substance.

  40. Frankenchrist says:

    Saddam didn’t have WMD. It’s amazing you are still swallowing the Bush/Cheney junta’s Big Lie almost ten years later.

    North Korea tested their nuke while your hero Chimpy McBush was still in the White House? Why didn’t your hero take on North Korea? Do you believe Obama should invade North Korea?

  41. alindasue says:

    My true faith is in Heavenly Father and in Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, whose teachings I try to live by. That includes caring for my fellow man and trying to live frugally. Where that falls in the political spectrum – left or right – depends on how far the political labels pendulum has swung at the present moment… and is, to me, irrelevant.

    beerBoy said, ““We” have given up our freedoms and damaged this Republic far more than any terrorist could.”

    True. Very true.

    How many here have read George Orwell’s Animal Farm? If you haven’t, you should. It’s an excellent fable (animal story with a moral) that demonstrates this very principle. It’s often cited as a cautionary tale against communism, but what it really is is an illustration of how easily our constitutional freedoms can be lost without a single bullet being shot because people simply weren’t paying attention and allowed it to happen.

    I made my daughters read the book. They all hate the book, not because it is not well written, but because they found the book to be frightening.

    The so-called “Patriot Act” frightens the heck out of me. The Guantanamo Bay prison and the fact that so many American people consider it okay that people can be labelled “terrorist” and be held there indefinitely without trial or even, in some cases, formal charges being brought against them frightens me even more.

    It is here on the home front that “the battle to protect our freedoms” really needs to be fought by those of us who care about this country enough to notice when the writing on the barn wall has been changed and question it. (Read the book. You’ll get the reference.)

  42. The tone is this conversation, on this day, is sickening.

  43. slugoxyz says:

    In 1980, Iraq threw Mustard Gas and Tabun (GA) – a nerve agent at the Iranians killing approximately 10,000-20,000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_warfare). Then, in 1988, Hussein kills 5,000 Kurds (probably more) all with the WMD some say Hussein didn’t have. Oh yeah… Hussein had “Chem” at some point and just prior to us gearing up to invade him, he said he had them. Not that I believe everything that everyone tells me but if I’m getting ready to go in and get a criminal and he told me he has guns and is going to shoot me with them, to err on the side of caution would be to believe him until I can safely prove otherwise. Every soldier that invaded Iraq went in with full NBC gear. If it was all made up, couldn’t they have lightened the soldier’s load a bit?

    Many seem to think that intelligence is this 100% proof positive thing. It’s not. Sorry. Despite all the money spent on it, sometimes, they just do their best to put the puzzle together without many of the pieces. You get the best idea you can and when your seniors ask for your opinion, you give them the best you’ve got. With any luck, other agencies have pieces and they can add their pieces to your pieces (fusion) but sometimes (and in the case of WMDs in Iraq), we just weren’t sure. But Hussein used them before and he said he had them… From an intelligence perspective, that’s a pretty good indicator if not proof.

    The difference between someone like us having NBC is that we have no real precedence of using anything other than nuclear weapons on Japan. I’d say, for the purpose of ending a terrible world war where millions (50-70m) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties) had died, our use was justified. Many will disagree. I respect that. But NBC in the hands of radical leaders with no checks and balances on their actions seems a little dangerous to me. In a perfect world, nobody should have them and we should all get along but in case you haven’t looked around lately (or for the last 1000 years)… I like having a distinct advantage over the crazy ones who will use them. So, maintain our supply and deny as many as we can.

  44. lylelaws says:


    Based on the tone of your comments I would bet dollars to donuts that both of you think President Truman should not have approved the use of the A-bomb which brought WWII to an abrupt end and saved a countless number of American and Japaneese troops as well as great number of Japanes civilians.

    Two of the American troops who might well have been sacrificed in a land invasion were my brothers who were serving in the U.S. Marines.

    I’m sorry alindasue but your prayers would not have brought them home safely.

    There is a time for prayer and a time for action.

  45. Lyle – this isn’t a discussion about the decision to drop the A-bomb in order to scare the Soviets with our superior firepower. Your attempt to personalize this through speculation about what would have happened if America hadn’t dropped nukes on the citizen populations of two cities is rather lame.

    Clearly – I don’t agree with you about the Hiroshima/Nagasaki – but that has nothing to do with this issue.

    Invading Afghanistan and then pulling out in order to invade Iraq without having first captured Osama bin Ladin was one of the largest strategic blunders ever committed by an American president. You claim to represent pragmatism in your support of W’s testosterone decisions – yet the facts demonstrate that there was nothing pragmatic about it.

  46. fanciladi says:

    Margot, it already IS a part of our past. We need to reflect on what happened each year so we will remember it. Just like Pearl Harbor…it is very sad, but it’s a part of our history and we just can’t forget…never forget!

    This is why they recorded so much about the holocaust. People naturally forget things and they wanted this to be remembered so that it wouldn’t happen again. Even now there are those who don’t believe it. I have faint memories of my parent’s reading about this horror when I was a kid!

    If we don’t talk about these horrors and show what pictures we have, it will fade from memories. We need to remember and honor those fallen and try to prevent any similar events in our future.

  47. cording to the official story, a handful of Arabs, mainly Saudi Arabians, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service, men without James Bond and V for Vendetta capabilities, outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs.

    It is hard to image a more far-fetched story–except for the second thing you need to know: The humiliating failure of US National Security did not result in immediate demands from the President of the United States, from Congress, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and from the media for an investigation of how such improbable total failure could have occurred. No one was held accountable for the greatest failure of national security in world history. Instead, the White House dragged its feet for a year resisting any investigation until the persistent demands from 9/11 families for accountability forced President George W. Bush to appoint a political commission, devoid of any experts, to hold a pretend investigation.


  48. averageJose says:

    The largest strategic blunder of all time was assuming democratics wouldn’t be turn coats for political gain after they gave authority to send troops into battle.

  49. fanciladi says:

    Hummmmmmmm…….just a trifle left-leaning article.

  50. averageJose says:

    “Obama! Obama! We are all Osama!”

  51. lylelaws says:


    So if you had been in Truman’s shoes and knew that a land invasion would cause a staggering number of brave young Americans to be killed you still would not have given the OK to use the Atomic bomb?

    Yes, many innocent Japanees citizens were killed, but the blame should be placed on their leaders not Harry Truman.

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