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OBAMA: Quotes some might find humorous

Letter by Robert Bennett, Steilacoom on July 27, 2012 at 10:48 am with 101 Comments »
July 27, 2012 10:48 am

These are 10 selected quotes from President Obama over the last three years.

1. The private sector is doing fine.

2. You will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime.

3. We can see the positive impacts right here at Solyndra.

4. I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.

5. Over the last 15 month, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been to 57 states.

6. The last thing you want to do is raise taxes in the middle of a recession.

7. The thing about hip-hop today is it’s smart, it’s insightful.

8. We don’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in the back.

9. When I’m president, I will go line by line to make sure we are not spending money unwisely.

10. What do you think stimulus is? It’s spending, that’s the whole point.

There are plenty of other interesting statements, but these are just a few. I find them very funny.

Leave a comment Comments → 101
  1. SandHills says:

    All trumped by Romney’s failure to fully disclose his tax records…..

  2. BigSwingingRichard says:

    What is also notable, is that if former President Bush mis-pronounced one word, the press and Saturday Night Live was all over it, yet, Obama can say completely false, misleading and outright lies and he never gets challenged by the press?

    When the President was in Bellevue a few months back he said the government created the internet and that Microsoft would not exist if it were not for the creation of the internet.

    The true is, Microsoft was in existence for twenty years before the internet and the internet was a threat to Microsoft because it allowed widespread dissemination of software and competing software development in an open architecture environment.

    The president seems to think if he says something, that alone makes it true.

    If he says the private sector of the economy is going fine, then I guess unemployment is not 8.2 percent, there is no deficit and home values have all risen to pre-recession levels. Thanks, good job Obama!

    Why would anyone vote for this guy? White guilt may have got him elected, lets hope it does not get him re-elected.

  3. SandHills says:

    C’mon Bigswing…Fox does a pretty good job by itself, even to taking any Obama missteps out of context to make more soundbite candy.

    Not to defend Obama, but both his supporters and detractors have enough glass in their houses to be chunking rocks…

  4. The thing about President Obama is that he speaks in complete sentences and paragraphs. I know it is difficult for some, but the context and surrounding sentences have to be taken into consideration to understand the meaning of his phrases.

    Most of these are not even quotes, but Fox News paraphrases. The only people who look foolish posting them are the posters.

    Including the hip-hop comment just shows the coded racism inherent in many attacks against Obama. One might want to read Hip Hop America by Nelson George to see why that cultural force has held the peak of American culture for over 20 years and ahs influenced worldwide trends in all the arts and even governments.


  5. sandblower says:

    Taken out of context the quotes are meaningless for anyone. Only an ignorant person would do such a thing and only an ignorant person would take joy in reading them.

  6. “When the President was in Bellevue a few months back he said the government created the internet and that Microsoft would not exist if it were not for the creation of the internet.”

    Obama said that Facebook and Google wouldn’t exist without the internet, not Microsoft, genius.


  7. Spread the wealth around.

    If it was once, he would be given a pass. Things like 57 states are funny but meaningless. The guy is recorded 24/7. The you did not build it junk, he owns. It follows his class warfare and statism. JULIA. Some quotes symbolize the man and his policies.

  8. “We drink from wells we did not dig; we are warmed by fires we did not kindle.” (Deut. 6.11)

    If one can read: “Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you did not build that–somebody else made that happen. The Internet did not get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off of the Internet. The point is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”

    Clearly some people need to retake English 101 so they can understand pronouns. “That” in the president’s statement obviously is talking about infrastructure, “roads and bridges”.

    There are many real things about which to disagree with the president. It only makes the commenter look foolish and mean-spirited to make things up and attack him and especially to make up motives then for the false attack.

    It just shows your “I hate Obama and will make up any lie I want to to make him look bad” when you post such garbage, CT7.

  9. Theefrinker says:

    Might I remind you that this is meant to be “Letters” to the editor. You’re just another person that’s upset with life and blaming it on a president, unsubstantially. Thanks for wasting space on this section of the TNT, and in general.

  10. olympicmtn says:

    Well Obama didn’t sweat, sacrifice and endure endless hours working to build my business. Clearly he is out of touch and arrogant.

  11. Has anyone else noted the responses to political letters of the TNT Letter Blog have a distinct characteristic. Most of the feedback in the afternoon comes from liberals. Most of the evening dialog comes from conservatives.

    My conclusion – most conservatives have jobs and are gainfully employed (or retired). Read into that what you will.

  12. SandHills says:

    IQ, but overall this forum accurately displays the divisive and seemingly uncompromising views held by those who respond.

    Yours for example serves up a little bit more gas for the flames of that cultural divide than any positive insight into any of the letters and views expressed.

    It is what America has become…and we are all on the losing side in a society split between uncompromising outlooks.

  13. I can find twice as many Romney gaffs just from his few days in London.

    BSR – only false and misleading when taken out of context as at least seven of the remarks were.

    CT7 which do you prefer – spreading wealth or concentration wealth in 10% of the population.

    Olymp – I doubt we would have to wait but a few minutes to know that you will never be able to build the education background that Obama has.

    IQ – what happens to the daytime liberals after conservative come on line?

    An equally valid deduction is that conservatives have to wait with their decoder rings to receive the daily talking points.

  14. olympicmtn, Tell us what your business is that doesn’t rely on any infrastructure built by others?

    Or, are you one of the ones who cannot read and just listens to Fox News? Or, are you one of the ones who likes to lie knowing full well what Obama really said?

  15. olympicmtn: Clearly he is out of touch and arrogant.

    Clearly you are just willfully ignorant

  16. bigrichardcranium, how do you just lie like that? I’m sure you’re not saddle with guilt so why not man up and say what you really want to? It’s easy to hide behind the keyboard.

  17. LeePHill says:

    Should I take the time to look up each quote and see how far the author has misrepresented Obama?

    Naw…..it would be redundant. I’ve done that too many times.

  18. Try out for late night television??

  19. Hill, how many times has it been pointed out to you that Romney did not send jobs overseas, yet you repeat the lie frequently?

    But go ahead, please go line by line (in one post, no wallpaper) and show where this is wrong. Thanks!

  20. CT7, you cannot prove that he didn’t, because he won’t release his records. We do know that he was the man responsible for all legal activities of his companies as CEO and President during the time that Bain purposely abnkrupted good companies and sent the jobs overseas.

    Interesting that you want to hold Obama responsible for every single thing that goes on in all of government (even court cases and congressional inactivity) because he is the president, but you don’t think Romney should take responsibility for the things his companies did while he was the responsible person.

  21. Please, tell me what company he bankrupted on purpose.

    Then, show me the companies BHO threw OUR money at that were doomed from the start.

    When do you hold BHO responsible? In your leftist fairyland, never. Save your time.

  22. LeePHill says:

    “CT7 says:
    July 27, 2012 at 7:40 pm Please, tell me what company he bankrupted on purpose.”

    The one that he took millions of dollars from and it went bankrupt.

  23. Focus on the leftist opening ceremony for the Olympics. You fail at political debate. You attempt to smear through lies. Thankfully Axelrod thinks like you, spent a boatload of money, and is leaving the people thinking Mitt is the businessman we need to fix the Obamaeconomy.

  24. LeePHill says:

    I wonder if 7 can post a comment without “socialist”, “leftist”, or

    I take it that 7 saw the segment of the Olympics opening that saluted nationalized health care.

    There is one less lie for the “tightierighties” to tell about health care – the one about the British coming here for health care.

    The “Brits” are calling “Mitt” the “Twit”…..LOL

  25. … you cannot prove that he didn’t, because he won’t release his records.

    What “records”? How do you conflate personal taxes with corporate activities? Your argument is not only spurious, it’s absurd. And what “illegal activities” are you referring to (make that refer-ing to)? If you’re so certain of the evidence, why no prosecution? Could it be because hyperbole is never admitted into evidence at trial?

    Bain Capitol has an 80% success rate at turning unprofitable companies around. I’d take an 80% success rate in my business. And the myth that they purposely folded the other 20% make sense… exactly how? Please, tell us all how investing cash into a company that ultimately fails is a profitable business strategy.

    While you’re groping for validation of you beyond-tenuous position, here’s some clear-headed reasoning to aid your recovery:

    PE (Private Equity) entrepreneurs buy companies that are undervalued, need financing, or must be be restructured. The latter scenario applies to companies that will inevitably fail if they are not reconstituted from a financial and/or operating perspective. Sometimes this entails job cutting. These are risky situations that result in great benefits to the PE industry and the employees if the projects are successful. PE firms never intentionally suck the life out of acquisitions and force them into liquidation. It makes no sense and is not a profitable business model.


  26. SandHills says:

    Well one thing Romney got right was that London was not ready to host the Olympics judging by such a tremendous flop of an opening ceremony – they should have hored the Chinese to put it on for them.

  27. Well there is one quote I’ll disagree with….”hip-hop is stupid, not insightful, and gutter trash rates higher on the scale of human achievement.

  28. Clam.. – You asked how investing in a company that fails makes any sense. Well it’s easy just make sure you take your profit first from the debt you load up on the company. This way it does not matter if the company lives or dies you (Bain) got yours so who cares. This is the Bain business model.

  29. You asked how investing in a company that fails makes any sense.

    No, I asked how it’s a proven business model.

    Well it’s easy just make sure you take your profit first from the debt you load up on the company. This way it does not matter if the company lives or dies you (Bain) got yours so who cares.

    Ahhh the ‘ol dividend recaps meme – sloppy shorthand for what actually happens. Tell me, afret, if a PE firm such as Bain is typically required to put up 33% of their own money to rescue a business, and the bail-out for said business is 100 Million, how often would said PE company actually realize a profit from their initial investment through the use of dividend recaps before the banks cut the life line(s)?

    This is the Bain business model.

    LMAO, if it were, they would have needed help from some other PE firm a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng time ago. Risky business model indeed. Would you invest in such a “business model”? Do you think a firm with such a track record of habitually fleecing banks and clients would have a chance of remaining in business as long as Bain Capitol (never mind having as impeccable reputation outside of the liberal/ progressive hive)?

  30. President Obama’s remarks most certainly indicate that successful business owners owe a great deal of the credit to the government and its taxpayers. OK, lets take that premise as a given. It should logically follow that the government and its taxpayers are also partially responsible for the failure of any business owner who does not succeed. If one wishes to take credit for success one must also be willing to shoulder the burden of failure…….bailouts for small business owners, anyone? Naw, we’ll just pat outselves on the back for all of the success stories.

  31. LeePHill says:

    oldoc….so you claim that those responsible for infrastructure and public improvements are responsible for bad management of a company?

    Romney would be proud of you.

  32. LeePHill says:

    What a “PE” firm does, on a episode of the Sopranos, would be called a “bust out”.

  33. Clamat0, part of the records people have asked Romney to release are the Board minutes, at least the names of the people voting on certain decisions during the time in question, even if the entire records are not released. Romney has refused. Do they show that he actually did take part in board meetings. He used the board meetings as an example of why he returned to Mass so often during the governor’s race, so was he active or silent?

    Also, Romney claims he did nothing to earn the “more than $100,000″ income he received each year durig the time in question from the Bain companies. Did he claim that as earned income, a gift or unearned income? What were his expenses during that time? He claimed during the governor’s race that he returned to Massachusetts during the time in question and lived in his son’s unfinished basement so he could qualify as a Massachusetts resident.

    Did he claim business expenses for the trips he took from SLC to Mass.? Did he receive income from the companies he said he retroactively retired from?

    One of the biggest questions I have is whether or not he took part in the amnesty program for people who illegally hid certain amounts of money from taxes in offshore accounts. He said his shelters were perfectly legal, but during the amnesty period he quickly moved his funds from a targeted amnesty site where he ahd paid no taxes to a legal site where he had to pay some taxes. Without disclosure we don’t know if his investments were legal or if he received amnesty.

  34. The truth lies in the complete opposite. Govt exists (and is funded) to support the individual and commerce. Without businesses there are no roads, bridges, Internet.

  35. Clam, great posts. As the responses show, they do not care about about the truth.

    As to releasing forms/records, if is has to do with Bain it would be in SEC filings. Find a new reason for your witch hunt

  36. … part of the records people have asked Romney to release are the Board minutes, at least the names of the people voting on certain decisions during the time in question…

    Who’s “asking”? The 0bama reelection committee? The Daily Kos? The Huffpo?

    Romney has refused.

    Under what authority would Romney be able to comply with a request of a company with which he no longer has a managing interest? Are you aware of federal rules regarding beneficiary ownership? If Romney were to vote on issues regarding any public company in which Bain had invested, it would be public record in that company. And since the period of time in question was before his runs for Mass Governor and the Presidency (not to mention current lame-ass attempts to make this a phony issue for the purpose of deflecting attention from a colossal failed presidency), what possible reason would Bain have for committing
    such a fraud at that time? It makes no sense.

    He used the board meetings as an example of why he returned to Mass so often during the governor’s race…

    Oh… so it wasn’t because he was running for governor of Mass?

    And since when is it illegal for a former chairman to sit in on board meetings of a company from which said former chairman is in the process of divesting himself?

    Also, Romney claims he did nothing to earn the “more than $100,000″ income he received each year durig the time in question from the Bain companies.

    100K? Seriously? And Michelle 0bama did nothing to earn her 300K annual salary, but that’s okay because we’re fully engaged in deflection from the original topic of this LTE… not to mention the economy, foreign affairs, an out of control Justice department with an embarrassing idiot in control, a no-show job presidency, etc, etc, etc, ∞…

    And now, back to the topic:

  37. Some of my favorite 0bamaisms (you know, from the smartest guy ever to perpetrate a no-show presidency in order to punch his ticket to party, golf, and incessantly campaign to do it to us all over again):

    “And finally, Bos, I just want to say thank you for Youkilis.” –joking at a fundraiser in Boston about the Red Sox trading their beloved slugger Kevin Youkilis to Chicago White Sox, Obama’s hometown team. The line drew boos from the audience. (June 25, 2012)

    “When I meet with world leaders, what’s striking — whether it’s in Europe or here in Asia…” -mistakenly referring to Hawaii as Asia while holding a press conference outside Honolulu, Nov. 16, 2011

    “We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad.” —Cincinnati, OH, Sept. 22, 2011

    “We’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you’re providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy.” —on Wall Street reform, Quincy, Ill., April 29, 2010

    “One such translator was an American of Haitian descent, representative of the extraordinary work that our men and women in uniform do all around the world — Navy Corpse-Man Christian Brossard.” –mispronouncing “Corpsman” (the “ps” is silent) during a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast, Washington, D.C., Feb. 5, 2010 (The Corpsman’s name is also Christopher, not Christian)

    “The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries.” –Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010

    “UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.” –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009

    “The Cambridge police acted stupidly.” —commenting on a white police officer’s arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009

    “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.” –in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009

    “It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There’s a lot of — I don’t know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing.” –confusing German for “Austrian,” a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009

    “No, no. I have been practicing…I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics, or something.” –making an off-hand joke during an appearance on “The Tonight Show”, March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)

    “I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances.” –after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)

    “I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” — defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama’s policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008

    “What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith…” –in an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying “your Christian faith,” which Obama quickly clarified (Watch video clip)

    “I’m here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis.” –speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008

    “Let me introduce to you the next President — the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden.” –slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008

    “Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee — which is my committee — a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don’t obtain a nuclear weapon.” –referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008

    “Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under a McCain…administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change.” –Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008

    “How’s it going, Sunshine?” –campaigning in Sunrise, Florida

    “On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.”

    “Hold on one second, sweetie, we’re going to do — we’ll do a press avail.” –to a female reporter for ABC’s Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)

    “I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” –at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)

    “Why can’t I just eat my waffle?” –after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania

    “It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” –explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters

    “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”

    “Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions.” –exasperated by reporters after a news conference

    “You’re likeable enough, Hillary.” –during a Democratic debate

    “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” –on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people

  38. Oh, and just for Larry, kindly note extra text… for context, cuz’ I know you would neverpost a quote by a conservative without including the entire quote text, or reminding the reader of its proper context. Nope, never, not you.

  39. ThomasSkidmore says:

    This was signed – J. Gobbells wasn’t it ? Proof once again – those who watch Fox “News” know less about what is going than those who watch nothing at all….

  40. JLSchweizer says:

    If we want to get silly, don’t forget to include dumb Mitt Romney quotes, courtesy this link: http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/mittromney/a/Mitt-Romney-Quotes.htm

    1. “Corporations are people, my friend… of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People’s pockets. Human beings, my friend.” —Mitt Romney to a heckler at the Iowa State Fair who suggested that taxes should be raised on corporations as part of balancing the budget (August 2011)

    2. “I like being able to fire people who provide services to me.” –Mitt Romney, using an unfortunate choice of words while advocating for consumer choice in health insurance plans (January 2012)

    3. “I’m not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there.” —Mitt Romney (January 2012)

    4. “He [Obama] says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It’s time for us to cut back on government and help the American people.” —Mitt Romney at a campaign event in Council Bluffs, Iowa, June 8, 2012

    5. “I’ll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry’s come back.” –Mitt Romney, –Mitt Romney, on the American auto industry, despite having written a New York Times op-ed in 2008 titled “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt,” in which he said if GM, Ford and Chrysler got a government bailout “you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye”

    6. “It’s hard to know just how well [the 2012 London Olympics] will turn out. There are a few things that were disconcerting. The stories about the private security firm not having enough people, the supposed strike of the immigration and customs officials, that obviously is not something which is encouraging.” –Mitt Romney, insulting Britain on the eve of the Olympics by suggesting the country is not ready, NBC News interview, July 25, 2012

    7. “I’ll tell you what, ten-thousand bucks? $10,000 bet?” –Mitt Romney, attempting to make a wager with Rick Perry during a Republican presidential debate to settle a disagreement about health care (December 2011)

    8. “I should tell my story. I’m also unemployed.” —Mitt Romney, speaking in 2011 to unemployed people in Florida. Romney’s net worth is over $200 million.

    9. “[My wife] drives a couple of Cadillacs.” –Mitt Romney, campaigning for president in Michigan (February 2012)

    10. “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” –Mitt Romney (January 2012)

    Bonus Quotes:

    “PETA is not happy that my dog likes fresh air.” —Mitt Romney in 2007, responding to criticism from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals following revelations that he had once put the family dog in a carrier and strapped it to the roof of his car during a 12-hour road trip

    “I have some friends who are NASCAR team owners.” —Mitt Romney, after being asked whether he follows NASCAR racing (February 2012)

    “There were a couple of times I wondered whether I was going to get a pink slip” –Mitt Romney, attempting to identify with the problems of average folk (January 2012)

    “I’m not sure about these cookies. They don’t look like you made them. No, no. They came from the local 7/11 bakery, or whatever.” —Mitt Romney, visiting a local bakery while campaigning in Pittsburgh, PA, April 17, 2012 (The owner of the baker later told MSNBC he was offended by Romney’s remarks.)

    “I like those fancy raincoats you bought. Really sprung for the big bucks.” —Mitt Romney to a group of NASCAR fans wearing plastic ponchos at the Daytona 500 (February 2012)

    “We have a president, who I think is is a nice guy, but he spent too much time at Harvard, perhaps.” —Mitt Romney, who has two Harvard degrees (April 5, 2012)

    “I love this state. The trees are the right height.” —Mitt Romney, campaigning in Michigan (February 2012)

    “I’m running for office for Pete’s sake, we can’t have illegals” –Mitt Romney, recalling his reaction when he learned that there were illegal aliens working the ground on his property, employed by a firm that he subsequently fired (October 2011)

    “I get speaker’s fees from time to time, but not very much.” —Mitt Romney, who earned $374,000 in speaking fees in one year according to according to his personal financial disclosure (January 2012)

    “It’s not worth moving heaven and earth, spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.” —Mitt Romney, speaking in 2007 about killing Osama bin Laden

    “Who let the dogs out? Who, who.” –Mitt Romney, during an awkward photo op with a group of African Americans kids at a Martin Luther King Day parade (January 2008)

    “I’m Wolf Blitzer and yes, that’s my real name.” —CNN’s Wolf Blitzer at the beginning of a November 2011 Republican presidential debate
    “I’m Mitt Romney—and yes Wolf, that’s also my first name.” —Mitt Romney, getting his own name wrong (his first name is “Willard,” and his middle name is “Mitt”)

    “I’m not familiar precisely with what I said, but I’ll stand by what I said, whatever it was.” —Mitt Romney (May 17, 2012)

    ~Compiled by Daniel Kurtzman

  41. “I know it is difficult for some, but the context and surrounding sentences have to be taken into consideration to understand the meaning of his phrases” —

    Patronizing tone notwithstanding, let me assure you tuddo that I for one consider the context in which a thing is said, and it is the context and content of the president’s ideology, his dreams for America, with which I fundamentally disagree. Apparently you embrace the unsavory stereotype of conservatives based on what you read here. This blog represents a very narrow segment of society.

    Now about context,and let’s add tone as well…the Brit response to Romney’s comments regarding security was pretty much absurd IF you listened to the whole of what he said and how he said it.

  42. Touché, JL, pretty funny stuff too. There are some serious contextual issues with a few of those, but let’s not let fact get in the way of a good laugh.

    Speaking of a good laugh, who do you think has the actual capacity to laugh at his own gaffes – contextual or otherwise; Barack Hussein 0bama, or Mitt Romney?

    If eyes are the mirror to the soul, humor, especially self-depricating humor, is the vanity light.

  43. LeePHill wrote: (oldoc….so you claim that those responsible for infrastructure and public improvements are responsible for bad management of a company?

    Romney would be proud of you.)

    No moreso than President Obama’s claim that those responsible for infrastructure and public improvements are responsible for the good management of a company!

  44. sozo, you say: “Apparently you embrace the unsavory stereotype of conservatives based on what you read here. This blog represents a very narrow segment of society.”

    I am reacting and commenting on what is said here. I agree that there are some conservatives who do not fall for Fox News ignorance and do not make idiotic comments like saying the president said that business people did not build their own businesses.

    I don’t mind at all when people disagree with real policies and real issues. The problem on the right is that about all you can find right now is anti-Obama, no discussion of real issues.

    The Senate introduced a bill that keeps all tax cuts for any dollar amount under $250,000 earned income per year and agreed to discuss with Republicans how to abide by their agreement on tax/spending limits for the rest of the revenue loss if all tax cuts were extended.

    Dems passed it in the Senate, but because Obama is for it, Republicans will not agree to any legislation in the House until December or January, so we the people are left in limbo about next year’s taxes and spending plans for the fiscal year.

    If Republicns wanted to help the economy, give epople confidence in their buying power, instead of just being anti-Obama, they could at least give this tax cut that affects every tax payer, including the top earners. Don’t they tell us they are for tax cuts?

    And, as for Romney’s Olympics gaffe, I haven’t had anything to say about that. What I do feel is that when a political candidate goes abroad, it is for the purpose of building good will, not to critique the host country. No one asked Mitt to be a consultant. I think the American people would have had the same reaction to some foreign dignitary criticizing our people, volunteers and efforts. I don’t tell friends they should have washed their windows before my visit if they invite me to dinner and then ask me how I like their new place – even if I can’t see out of them.

  45. alindasue says:

    Clamot0 said, “Speaking of a good laugh, who do you think has the actual capacity to laugh at his own gaffes – contextual or otherwise; Barack Hussein 0bama, or Mitt Romney?”

    Judging from what I’ve seen, I’d say both Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama are both pretty good about giving depreciative laughs at their own gaffes – however, that’s not really an issue in determining the better candidate.

  46. I’ll have to respectfully disagree alindasue. I think 0bama is the single most thin-skinned, narcissistic, and ego-centric president in my lifetime. That spans 12 presidencies. He cannot take criticism, and outside of the Press Club dinner, I’ve never heard him utter a bit of self deprecating humor. Further, he never reacts well to being the butt of a joke – by anyone, friend or foe.

    Those are some troubling traits.

  47. Tuds, so you rather have the typical pol? All spin, no direct answers, no simple truth?

    Bottom line is no matter how much you liked the socialist display called the opening ceremony, England has has issues with the Olympics. He personally managed our very successful games. He was asked for an opinion, and gave a straight answer that honestly was pretty harmless. Guess you prefer blown smoke up the backside.

  48. It was not a gaffe (like a certain congresswoman’s socialist comment). And you try to pat yourself on the back for not jumping on the bandwagon then… you know what you did.

  49. CT7, you’ve baited us several times with that “socialist display” business.

    It was apparent that they paid respects to both the ruling class as well as the workers who built the stadium. They highlighted the
    agrarian society that was the foundation of British culture for many centuries and showcased their great writers and thinkers. They highlighted and celebrated the industrial revolution, which was hardly a socialist enterprise as well as many other industries that made Britian great. Britian created the earliest advances in germ theory and medicine that started the health care industries and started occupations like nursing.

    With corporations paying the bulk, if not the total of the costs, these games, including the opening ceremonies are some of the most commercial of all enterprises.

    Quick, look under your bed. I think I see a socialist there!

    Definition of gaffe: a social blunder, esp a tactless remark

    Kind of like Bush massaging Germany’s leader’s shoulder’s uninvited, or Michelle Obama touching the Queen (that O’Reilly said was total disrespect of the Queen’s position right before the Queen hugs Michelle). Gaffes all.

  50. So you decide to harp on my use of socialist (accurate) and dance around answering a question. See, unlike BHO, Mitt is an expert on things. Running a very successful Olympics qualifies him to speak on the games.

    He was honest. Tactless? Showing incredibly mild concern? Come on.

    Yes, with the current admin and hard left shift America and Europe are undertaking I will be hyper-alert for all things socialist. It is the patriotic American thing to do.

  51. CT7, I guess you are not going to tell us why a corporate Olympics is considered socialist by you, and I’m sorry, I can’t find a question that I didn’t answer, unless its the false dilemma you present of a would I rather have a typical politician (than what – a liar, a tax dodger, a person who will not show the American [people if he received amnesty for evading taxes he owed, a person who will not show whether or not he lied to Massachusetts during the governor’s campaign or is lying now when he said he did not do anything at the Bain companies when he returned to Massachusetts and lived in an unfurnished and unfinished basement.

    I would say we have two very typical politicians to choose from. Fortunately, one knows how to be president – Obama.

  52. And, if you want to talk about socialist Olympics, the Salt Lake City Olympics cost over $1.5 billion is US federal tax dollars, not counting grants and other costs paid directly to athletes, training facilities and sports associations.

    That was one and a half times the federal expenditures for all of the other US Olympics combined, (including inflation) and including Atlanta. Most of the money went to Utah private contractors, many of them Romney associates and supporters.

    Romney and the SLC Olympic Committee didn’t build it by themselves.

    In his 2004 book, Turnaround, Romney acknowledges the central role of the federal government in making the Olympics possible. “No matter how well we did cutting costs and raising revenue, we couldn’t have Games without the support of the federal government,”

    The GAO said that the Bush Administration “failed” to provide oversight to the funds and the SLC Olympic Committee was not able to account for a large amount of the expenditures.

    So much for Romney’s expertise. You don’t run the federal government like your own private business, shoveling funds to your friends and not accounting for the money. You have to show accountability and have transparent documentation.

  53. CT7 – name a company BC bankrupted while Mitt the Twit was in charge – why not ask Gingrich, Perry, or Santorum where they got their data from. All three made the same charges.


  54. X- did you even read the article? Just a google and paste. Nothing in there was damning. While he might have had a win-win in a few cases of a company going out of business (almost a decade later of wages paid to employees), that was not the desired outcome.

    Grow up, all of you. He tried to save companies already failing. He saved some, lost some. The ones that went out of business were already dead. Read the link, read the other fact checking articles on his wildly successful career.

    Tuds- govt exists to support the community and business. No one is calling for an end to universal services, just the selective benefits. Stop the rhetoric.

    CBO and GAO also has interesting things to say about BHO…

    A failed community organizer is the better choice? Have you read one report on today’s economy? Do you see how divided we are?

    Turn your emotion down and be rational.

  55. CT7, stop the rhetoric, ha! From you that is a knee slapper. You still haven’t explained why you think the Olympics, or more specifically, the opening night, was socialist. Talk about empty rhetoric.

    You just can’t ever stand a real debate with facts. You just immediately go for the personal attack.

    We are divided on purpose because it is to the advantage of politicians to keep us divided. It is obvious which party, however, actually wants to work at fixing the economy and working with the other party to make progress on important issues. One hint, it isn’t the Republicans who have blocked more legislation and refused to even debate issues in Congress.

    Prove that Romney is not a destroyer of businesses. Stand up for him by presenting facts. There are plenty of first-hand account of people who worked for and managed Bain-purchased businesses that were doing fine until they were purposely bankrupt by Bain while Romney was responsible.

    So, show us the records that either prove he was not in charge and did not participate in decisions, show us records that show why he received earned income for doing nothing. Facts, man, facts. That is how to have a “rational” argument, not lying about what the president said and repeating false propaganda from Fox.

  56. Tuds, http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-new-attacks-on-romney-and-outsourcing/2012/06/29/gJQA5FbbCW_blog.html

    Are you going to stop the outsourcing rhetoric or lies?

    Those factory workers became nice props for Axelrod and BHO. I am sure they understand corporate finance. Are you really that big of a sucker for campaign ads??? You take them at face value?

    The national healthcare showcase, did you miss it?

    And was that a gaffe or do you agree BHO and Harry blocking good policy?

  57. LeePHill says:

    CT7 said – socialist, leftist, leftist, socialist, leftist, spin, socialist, rhetoric, leftist, spin, marty

  58. LeePHill says:

    “The national healthcare showcase, did you miss it?”

    Oh geeeeeeeeeez….I knew it!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    One of these days CT7 will understand that the US is the country that is behind the 8 ball on health care. The overwhelming majority of developed countries in the world have nationalized health care, or something similar. They look at the US and shake their heads at a society that makes money off illness and injury.

    The “actors” in the Olympic salute to national health care? Doctors and nurses.

  59. Most doctors in America, you know the place we live, do not want Obamacare, our most recent step toward socialized medicine.

    We should follow Europe? Why? There economies minus Germany and oil are terrible. Unemployment, no growth.

    We are not Europe culturally, economically, politically. We fought wars just to get away from their control.

    Evil insurance company line again? What is their profit margin again? What % of major institutions and groups are non profit? We have been down this road already. You put your fingers in your ears and cried over the facts.

    Yes Lee/Larry, I use statist, leftist and socialist often describing democrat and progressive ideals and personalities. Make a point.

  60. LeePHill says:

    “Most doctors in America, you know the place we live, do not want Obamacare, our most recent step toward socialized medicine.”

    You have no valid proof of that statement.

    First of all, medical professionals have nothing to lose with the Affordable Health Care Act. The legislation was all about insurance and has nothing to do with patient/doctor relationships.

    If you really knew what the legislation was all about…instead of just parroting RIGHTIST TALKING POINTS (and you’re not really very good at that, either), you’d know that REAL DOCTORS have no ax to grind on the issue.

    As to their business side…why would they turn down all that additional business created by mandatory insurance?????

    CT7 – you are a caricature of a conservative pundit – you try to talk like them, but your support data is little to none.

  61. LeePHill says:

    Here, CT7 – a softball from FORBES:

    “A recently released poll of more than 2,000 physicians, conducted by Athenahealth and Sermo, is alarming. The poll, part of a broader Physician Sentiment Index, indicates that 79% of physicians are less optimistic about medicine since the passage of health care reform. Fifty-three percent indicate they will consider opting out of insurance plans with passage of the bill. Worst of all, 66% indicate that they will consider opting out of all government-run programs. The same reform bill that will provide “care for all” may drive away more physician caregivers than attract previously uninsured patients. What a predicament that would be.”

    Now, re-read who conducted the survey…..INSURANCE INDUSTRY.

    According to them, doctors would be ‘driven away’ from successful practices because they have a larger marketplace of patients. Anyone that believes that sort of tripe, probably believes that Mitt Romney never had anything to do with outsourcing jobs.


  62. CT7, FactCheck stated they were going to take the word of Romney that he retroactively retired and had no decision-making role, although he had the authority to make the decisions and even the authority to override any board decision during the time in question. The FactCheck article was rating the claims that the Obama campaign said they had evidence that “proved” he was in charge. That claim was hyperbole, as we know. It is only circumstantial evidence, so I agree with FactCheck on that.

    Without a court order to produce records, evidence one way or the other is not available. Romney could clear it up if he would produce records, but for some reason he won’t. I think that is a big character flaw and a dangerous precedent for a presidential candidate.

  63. We will not agree with the evidence (or your perceived lack of evidence) if Mitt has outsourced (offshored) jobs.

    I will stick with the media and fact checking organizations, you can “hope” he releases something damning. You take your talking points straight from Axelrod.

    Either way BHO has no record in private sector business. His record as a pol is weak. The record of his admin is terrible.

    Now, let’s look at their plans. Romney- decentralized govt with power back to the states and local govts. Flat and simplified tax code. A history of fixing problems. BHO- big central govt. Handouts to select industries and voting blocks. More money into failed programs. “stimulus” myth. Keynes.

  64. Hill, more patients, partial payments. More regulation and red tape. Political interference.

  65. LeePHill says:

    CT7 – another made up scenario?

    Since when does the President’s position require “business experience” (as if managing a non-profit doesn’t qualify?). That is the newly concocted crapolla because Mitt’s political leadership experience was a miserable failure. No wonder he isn’t running on his gubernatorial experience.

    The last “business genius” we elected, took us to a major recession.

    I love your “big government” crap whenever you mention Obama’s name…totally ignoring the bigger government required for more voting regulations and more regulations on women’s health care choices.

    You are a walking, talking contradiction of yourself.

    “The record of his admin is terrible.”

    Let’s just examine this for a minute. The unemployment rate in January 2001 was 4.2. In January 2009 it was 7.6. Who was in charge?

    As of July, 2012, the total is 8.2

    So…that means that unemployment almost doubled during the Bush Administration but has only increased a bit more than 1/2 of 1 percent since Obama took over.

    In conservativespeak…this is “Obama’s failure”……

    And they wonder why we laugh at their faulty attempts to brand Obama as a failure…..

    I’d bring up the doubling of the stock market, but that one has been played over and over….thus redundacy sets in….

  66. LeePHill says:

    “CT7 says:
    July 29, 2012 at 1:02 pm Hill, more patients, partial payments. More regulation and red tape. Political interference.”


  67. LeePHill says:

    As to Romney’s management time at Bain….

    Mitt has to tell us which time he lied – was it when he said he wasn’t working for Bain after 1999…or did he lie when he ran for Governor of Massachusetts and said he was working for Bain and living in the state while heading the Olympics in Utah?

    Did he live in MA in the basement of his son’s house?

    Mitt’s gamble is that certain people will believe anything he says. Of course, those people would never vote for Obama, anyway.

  68. 1.5% GDP growth. Economists are starting to forecast a double-dip recession. He is focused on raising money and selective social issues. Stopped meeting with his jobs council.

    Not forcing people or business to buy BC requires zero govt workers. Do you know how many IRS agents alone are required for Obamacare?

    BHOs past is littered with drug abuse and radicals. Pick your poison.

  69. LeePHill says:

    “BHOs past is littered with drug abuse and radicals. Pick your poison”

    OH…everyone can play that game.

    Mitt’s past is littered by physical abuse among the private school boys…which likely led to sexual abuse. Why else would adolescent boys abuse one of their classmates who had long hair. Remember, there were no females at that school for them to exercise their hormonal instincts.

    Did I mention that he was a traitor who ran and hid in France while other males his age were fighting for our freedom in SE Asia?

  70. Obama Obama, that beer drinking man,
    Can do no right because a Dem he be.

    Romney Romney, no beer can drink,
    Does no wrong because no Dem be he,

    These ‘quotes’ tell me two things:
    First, right wing media knows how to distort the truth.
    Second, zombies GOPhers will believe anything.

    Romney gave the McCain VP committee 21 years of tax records, but WE THE PEOPLE don’t have a right to view the records that Mitt’s own wife says has information in them that could cost him the election.

    ‘Never heard Obama utter a bit self-deprecating humor’ Then you are blind, deaf and dumb.

    CT7 – we now know there are liars, damned liars, and you.

    The truth is – the right wing can’t handle the truth.

  71. Sexual abuse?? What are you talking about? Now he is a rapist. You are sick. That is why the guy never mentioned it? Cheers Larry.

    As to his service, I have no feelings. What he did was not uncommon (not serve in those years). Did you serve?

    No X, you don’t have the right to those records. BHO is a closed book. A drug user with terrorist mentors. A poor student as described by all that knew him that made it to the best schools. How did that happen?

  72. LeePHill says:

    CT7…prove that Romney didn’t commit sexual abuse when at the boys school.

    As to military services…I didn’t avoid the draft. The draft avoided me. Romney used his religion as an escape method during a time when there was no lottery system.

    Let’s think about descriptions for a minute….

    You, CT7, are a drug user – you admitted it several times on this forum.

    What is a “terrorist”? Would that be someone who terrorizes others? I’d say terrorizing fellow students in school would make Romney a terrorist.

    Now that we are done with this little game…..

    “A poor student” doesn’t graduate with honors. You might was well quit while you are ahead since you are now a drug user, that is voting for a terrorist and you’ve made a fool of yourself claiming an honors graduate to be a “poor student” (remember, “poor” means “without money”)

  73. “Prove that Romney didn’t”. Did not what? Not commit a crime a crime he was never accused of committing. Are you that scared BHO will lose in a landslide you resort to making stuff up? Sad. Very sad. A sorry, honorless state the left is in.

    Choom gang or a bunch of typical prep school kids picking on the oddball. You choose druggie, I choose the successful businessman.

    Society labels me a casual user of alcohol. Labels BHO a druggie. For a good reason. The decision to snort coke is way different than drinking a beer.

  74. took14theteam says:

    So tuddo, are you willing to share the position that GWB appointed you to in Texas?

    You said you were a Bush appointee for a position in Texas on on another letter. I have been waiting to find out what you actually did.

  75. I think 0bama is the single most thin-skinned, narcissistic, and ego-centric president in my lifetime

    You seem to have forgotten Richard Nixon……..

  76. LeePHill says:

    “Are you that scared BHO will lose in a landslide you resort to making stuff up?”

    Now THAT is funny…..you can bet your birth certificate that there are more lies told about Obama than Romney.

    But…but…but…if you can’t prove it wrong…..then it must be….

    “The decision to snort coke is way different than drinking a beer.”

    That is one of the favorite sayings at Alcoholics Anonymous meetings.

    “Choom gang or a bunch of typical prep school kids picking on the oddball. You choose druggie, I choose the successful businessman”

    I’d say a few kids smoking a little pot is much more harmless than abusing someone….but to each his own. Just think if Jerry Sandusky had chosen to smoke pot instead of…..well…you know….

    Why would someone be called “successful” with a history of bankrupt businesses in his wake?


  77. He bought FAILING businesses and tried to turn them around. I know this is really complicated, I think you can understand.

    He was successful at making money for a lot of people, including himself. I know you think business is charity, but in the real world it is about making money. As much as possible.

  78. You seem to have forgotten Richard Nixon……..

    Thin-skinned, yes – narcissistic, and ego-centric… not so much.

  79. took14theteam, I’ve said it on several occasions that I was the director of a state agency that helped people with disabilities prepare for and get jobs. It was a medium-sized agency by Texas standards, but it had more employees than DSHS does in Washington State.

    I retired and came here when Gov Locke appointed me to a job in Washington’s similar agency. What that has to do with this letter, I’m not sure, but maybe you could relate it.

  80. Clamt0 – fits Romney to a Tea.

    BTW – over the weekend Mitt told the Israelis that when He was president the US ‘wound never NOT back down’.

  81. LeePHill wrote: Let’s just examine this for a minute. The unemployment rate in January 2001 was 4.2. In January 2009 it was 7.6. Who was in charge?

    As of July, 2012, the total is 8.2

    So…that means that unemployment almost doubled during the Bush Administration but has only increased a bit more than 1/2 of 1 percent since Obama took over.

    The unemployment rate in all 41 months of Obama’s presidency has been higher than that of any single month in President Bush’s 8 years in office.

    In January, 2009, 11.6 million Americans were unemployed, with 23% of those unemployed for more than 6 months. By January, 2012, 12.8 million were unemployed, with 43% of those out of work more than 6 months.

    Obama boasts of having “created” over 3,000,000 jobs during his presidency yet 1,200,000 or more Americans are out of work now than when he took office. Very simple mathematics tells us that
    4,200,000 jobs have been LOST during his administration.

    Patting Obama on the back because unemployment has only “increased a bit more than ½ of 1 percent since Obama took office” sounds a lot better than facing up to the reality that the hope and change deal just is not working.

  82. Patting themselves on the back for 1.5% GDP growth and ‘only’ a small rise in unemployment.

    That is the metric of success?

    Time for a real change. Romney 2012.

  83. White guilt may have got him elected, lets hope it does not get him re-elected.


    What got Obama elected is that he is a brilliant speaker and Hillary had some serious baggage (both deserved and not) from her past and her husband; eight years of bad judgment from Bush/Cheney made the “independent voter” more likely to go Dem; and McCain sold his soul in 2000 for nothing and apparently had taken mega doses of Viagra before interviewing his running mate and couldn’t think clearly.

  84. SandHills says:

    Ok, Romney has most of the 2%ers, and those wannabes who truly believe that they too can win the lottery.

    Aside from entrenched liberals, a lot of everyday working Americans believe they have the right to see Romney’s tax returns.

    Romney comes across as those privileged folk who live behind gated communities, with elevators for their cars in responding to being transparent about his wealth and his tax records…his response is simply defined as “let them eat cake”

    I suspect his advisors are scratching their heads trying to divert attention from this simple issue – when so many larger issues have yet to find a firm position by their candidate. But If wealth, as a measure of being a successful businessman, is such a positive aspect of Romney….why is he unwilling to let us in on all the smart decisions he made to protect his wealth. Could it be the advantages given to the rich in our tax codes, his off-shore accounts, or tax shelters the everyday man doesn’t have? Where there is smoke there is fire, and just like his religion, there are just too many secrets Romney is hiding.

  85. Unlike this admin, you can see Romney can keep a secret. Definately a positive.

    BHO was a closed book 4 years. He spoke well and promised the world. He got elected and failed. We are more divided then ever. Economy is in the tank.

    Know when to fold ‘em.

    Oh yeah, Romney is rich. Very, very rich. Keep you jealousy in check. You managed to keep it in check for the entire Kennedy clan and Kerry. You can do it.

  86. CT – the issue is HOW Romney got his wealth, hot that he has it.

  87. JFK got a lot of flak because of his religion. He was asked hard questions about his beliefs and whether or not he would toe the line that the Roman Catholic Church was taking on certain issues. He proved he was his own man and not an envoy of the Pope.

    No one is asking Romney the hard questions about his religion. For example, did he declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel because of the LDS belief that the tribes of Israel will gather there and move to Independence Missouri to create the New Jerusalem as prophesized by their founder?

    Or did he make the statement to prove his far-right credentials to separate himself from George Bush, knowing some far-right hardliners are still mad at George Bush for declaring 14 times that Jerusalem is not the capital and claiming security reasons for that decision, just as Obama has done?

    Perhaps all of our ambassadors just like living by the sea and being in a clean, modern city, but Bush and Obama have both said it was because we needed a negotiated settlement, not an overt war between Palestinians and Israel. Does Romney really want an outright war in the hopes that Israelies will have to move out of Israel to the New Jerusalem so prophesy will be fulfilled?

  88. SandHills says:

    Hey I only asked why he doesn’t release his tax records…not about his special underwear….

  89. SandHills says:

    Tuddo touches upon bigger issues than what the PC rules of religion should object to. I admit I am not knowledgeable enough about Mormans to make any sort of theological argument (and the secretiveness of that sect makes any non-member at a loss for it’s inner workings) – but the very nature of Mormanism point to why Romney himself is so secretive – much more so than JFK was about his beliefs.

    The Morman religion by its very nature employs misdirection and obfuscation whenever questioned about their inner workings. Romney is only practicing what is preached by his avowed religion.

  90. LeePHill says:

    “The unemployment rate in all 41 months of Obama’s presidency has been higher than that of any single month in President Bush’s 8 years in office.”

    Yeah…it increased 1/2 of 1 percent and held steady. During the Bush Admininstration, it almost doubled.

    That is what is called “relavtive equivilancy”

  91. Speaking of funny quotes. I am dieing to hear the right explain why Romney said this while in Israel:

    “Do you realize what health care spending is as a percentage of the G.D.P. in Israel? Eight percent,” he said. “You spend eight percent of G.D.P. on health care. You’re a pretty healthy nation. We spend 18 percent of our G.D.P. on health care, 10 percentage points more. That gap, that 10 percent cost, compare that with the size of our military — our military which is 4 percent, 4 percent. Our gap with Israel is 10 points of G.D.P. We have to find ways — not just to provide health care to more people, but to find ways to fund and manage our health care costs.”

    Doesn’t Romney realize that Israel has a mandate that all citizens purchase insurance through not-for-profit HMO’s and those who cannot afford buying insurance are given free coverage by the government? People pay on a sliding scale based on income, but average paying 40% of the costs for insurance collected through the tax system, and the state pays the other 60%.

    Now, was this another Romney “gaffe” in praising European-style socialized care, or was he sending a signal back home for Republicans to cool their rhetoric on the Affordable Health Care Act and be happy they at least got to keep for-profit insurance companies?

  92. SandHills says:

    tuddo…just more obfuscation from Romney. Most of his supporters really don’t care what positions he has on any issue.

    The ONLY issue that will give him most of his votes is the he is the GOP standard bearer to defeat Obama.

    Once you understand that, you can see why even the South, who largely rejected Romney in the primaries, play deaf, dumb, and blind, about any specific policy stand by Romney and will vote for him in November.

    It is sad, but the only solid plank in his and the GOP platform is that he is not Obama.

  93. Mitt’s Israel Twit-ness has more to do with the need for ALL politicians in the US national stage to demonstrate their Israel First beliefs. Me – I want a president who puts the US first, second, third, fourth. Any allegiance to any ally must be determined, first and foremost, by how it serves the interests of the US.

  94. Bb- if you ha to choose one side, what would it be and why?

  95. With Obama, actions speak louder than words. Israel’s Defense Minister said today: ““But I should tell you honestly that this administration under President Obama is doing in regard to our security more than anything that I can remember in the past.”

    Barak (the Defense Minister) has a long history and a long memory, so his unconditional statement is very telling indeed. It should put a stop to the unfounded lies conservatives tell about Obama’s lack of support for Israel, but it won’t. Obama haters just don’t care for facts, they just like to make up anything that feeds into their hatred.

  96. MililaniJag says:

    Pres.Obama for all 57 states.

  97. Bb- if you ha to choose one side, what would it be and why?

    America – because I am an American.

    Regarding the I/P situation – I do not see it as a zero sum – BOTH sides have to “win”. The Israeli policies are not working if they are about creating peace and security for the State (there are some who have concluded that Israel’s politicians don’t really want peace and security). The ONLY way that Israel will ever have a hope of a secure peace is, in my estimation, for an equitable two-state solution to be developed and implemented. BOTH sides are guilty of their terrorist extremes which, in the end, only serves to prolong the suffering of their peoples.

  98. I wrote: “The unemployment rate in all 41 months of Obama’s presidency has been higher than that of any single month in President Bush’s 8 years in office.”

    LeePHill responded: (Yeah…it increased 1/2 of 1 percent and held steady. During the Bush Admininstration, it almost doubled.

    That is what is called “relavtive equivilancy”)

    I reply: Is your “relavtive equivilancy” a Democrat talking point contrived to soften the disaster of the Obama administration losing 4,200,000 jobs and having 12,800,000 Americans unemployed? It isn’t working!

  99. Hey Sandy, how’s that “brokered convention” theory workin’ out for ‘ya?

    Obviously, pretty much like the rest of you theories and opinions.

  100. averageJose says:

    “Michelle didn’t go down all the way” has to be one of my favs. :D

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