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VOTER ID: Lax licensing poses vote threat

Letter by Richard L. Reynolds, Graham on July 16, 2012 at 9:35 am with 25 Comments »
July 16, 2012 10:08 am

Several letters have been published recently concerning Voter ID.

Washington state has no voter identification requirements. You can fill out a Washington voter registration form at the Department of Motor Vehicles when you get your driver’s license, or you can go online and fill out the form.

The voter registration form has you check two boxes, asking if you are a U.S. citizen and if you will be over 18 on election day. You provide your name, date of birth, phone number and marital status along with your home and mailing address.

Voting is all done by mail, so there is no requirement to even prove that you are the voter the ballot was intended for. Of course, we all know that there are no dishonest people out there. Right?

Washington is one of two states that issue driver’s licenses to anyone who can pass the test. Again, there is really no requirement for you to prove who you are or that you are a citizen.

Some time back, The News Tribune published a story about how relaxed Washington’s licensing policies had become. As a result, illegals were flying in from other states and getting their license. They can then take those back to whatever state they are living in and trade them in for that state’s license and voting privileges.

I am concerned that we have corrupted, beyond repair, our election process, and through our inaction have had an adverse effect on other states as well.

Leave a comment Comments → 25
  1. A dozen suspicious votes for Rossi a few years back, one actual case of fraud, and you want us to pay millions of our tax money to fix a problem no one can show any evidence that we have?

    You have to define the problem if you want to get a real solution. There are two different steps that need attention. The first is registration to vote and the other is the ballot.

    If you think we have registration fraud, which is very different than fraud on the actual balloting, then point out the elements that cause the problems at registration.

    Just because a form is easy to fill out doesn’t mean that there isn’t a check and balance system to see if the form is legitimate.

    The other issue is ballot fraud after someone is registered. With signature check, I think we don’t have a problem if we are registering citizens and residents only, so what do poll workers look at and ballot counters look at? The signature to see if it matches.

    Come back with some evidence of real problems, and maybe your vague “concerns” that have been drummed up by people who do not want certain citizens to vote, and maybe solutions can be found that won’t strap our state budget even more.

  2. Richard, You’ve got to remember that this is a democrat controlled state. They don’t want tougher protection for legal voters. They like having votes from convicted felons, illegal aliens and others who will vote for more social programs, hence more state bureaucracy.

  3. BlaineCGarver says:

    What BS….It’s laughable NOT to show an ID to vote….I seem to recall that it was found that King County had “the worst cases of voter fraud” ever….that’s a proven. This is just another race-baiting scheme by ‘Crats to further divide the votes and races. There are far more old, poor whites than there are old, poor blacks, and it’s funny they don’t carp about it….Disgusting!!!

  4. averageJose says:

    I want every person 18 and above who is an actual living human and not a felon that resides in the US legally to be able to vote once in every election.

  5. Blaine, could you link to any voter fraud facts? As I pointed out, voter registration and voting are two very different subjects. Mixing them together like right-wingers like to do is just a way to confuse the issue.

    The King County attempted fraud was discovered using current methods already available and in use all over the state to catch it, and no one that was ineligible to vote was registered. So therefore there was no voter fraud.

  6. jerryman47 says:

    Frosty. you are absolutely correct, this is a Democrat/Union controlled state. They know what they are doing. One of the highest taxed states on gasoline, cigarettes, and liquor around. Food stamps and welfare are there for the asking. And this state doesn’t have any voter ID requirements, a haven for illegals to come here and live on the taxpayer’s dime.

  7. bobcat1a says:

    Blaine, your statement is internally inconsistent. “I seem to recall that it was found that King County had “the worst cases of voter fraud” ever….that’s a proven.”
    You “seem to recall” and then take it to “that’s a proven.” It’s proven because you “seem to recall”? You have a pretty low standard of proof to work with. Maybe you could come up with a FACT on which to base your proof?

  8. truthbusterguy says:

    http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-immigrants-openly-working-for-patty-murray

    don’t tell me they are not voting. Recently jury pools have been investigated and it was found that illegals were thrown off the jury because they are not citizens but voter rosters show they have been voting.

    Only democrat want to stop the use of ID to vote.
    I have to show ID and provide my SSN to buy a fishing license. Give me a break.

  9. If you want to show your ID when you vote just hold it up to the mailbox before you deposit your ballot. Feel better now!

    If voter fraud is such a problem and it is a felony then where are the convictions? Sorry but there are none just like there is no such thing as voter fraud.

  10. TBG,
    Guess you missed the articles about all the Romney, Arnold, and a host of other Republicans having illegal immigrants working for them.

    ‘Illegals on voter rolls’ – last time this republicon talking point came up it was illegals were being selected for jury duty because they had driver’s licences.

    For now let us move beyond voter suppression and talk about unreliable voting machines.

    Afet,
    Bush, DOJ, 2001 – 2006, could only find 270 incidents of voter fraud involving illegal voters casting ballots.

  11. FYI, IMO, the rpots in this state are so mad because their voter supression schemne (code named – operation voter id) won’t work here.

  12. Maybe if ol’Rob had not spent so much of his time trying to ram the repeal of Obamacare down our throats he would have had some time to investigate voter fraud here in Washington.

  13. OLYMPIA — The voter-registration form arrived in the mail last month with key information filled in: Rosie Charlston’s name was complete, as was her Seattle address.

    The problem: Rosie was a black lab who died in 1998.

    A group called the Voter Participation Center has touted the distribution of some 5 million registration forms in recent weeks, targeting Democratic-leaning voting blocs such as unmarried women, blacks, Latinos and young adults.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2018684401.html

    Yeah, we don’t need common sense voter ID laws in THIS state, LMAO.

  14. LeePHill says:

    Are we now increasing the size of government? I thought the idea was to make government smaller.

    We’ll need more people in the Secretary of State’s office, in addition to County Auditors…..and of course, THAT will cost money – AKA taxes.

    I wonder what the new CON complaint will be.

  15. Clamat0, are you trying to make a point that the groups mentioned (voting blocs as you call them) are ineligible to vote somehow?

    To you would it be necessary to eliminate these “Democratic-leaning” people from registering using new voter ID laws?

    By making the comment you did, it is obvious that is your intent, and that is the intent of the Republican overreach on this issue.

  16. LeePHill says:

    “OLYMPIA — The voter-registration form arrived in the mail last month with key information filled in: Rosie Charlston’s name was complete, as was her Seattle address.
    The problem: Rosie was a black lab who died in 1998″

    It would seem that the current system of weeding out illegal voters is working quite well, otherwise, they wouldn’t have caught Rosie.

  17. LeePHill says:

    Did James O’Keefe submit Rosie’s name?

  18. Clamat0
    It is not voter fraud until the Rosie attempts to register or to vote.

    The story lacks evidence of criminal intent, and is more indicative of the old saws ‘you get what you pay for’ and ‘trust but verify’.

    LPH,
    And that is only to handle the registration. If the rpots get their way, we will have to go back to precinct voting.

  19. averageJose says:

    2004… It was reported that there were 3,539 more ballots counted in King County than voters who cast them.
    The 3,539 is only the net. This comes from having roughly 1,500 more voters than counted ballots in some precincts, and about 5,000 more ballots than known voters in other precincts.

  20. averageJose, the actual statement is that the total number is of people who voted who do not appear on official list of registered voters. This happens every election and is perfectly legitimate. The reasons are the following:

    1.they cast a federal write-in ballot in accordance with provisions of the Federal Voting Assistance Program (which includes non-registered service personnel and overseas voters);
    2.they are participants in the state’s Address Confidentiality Program (victims of domestic violence and stalking whose information is secured from public record);

  21. took14theteam says:

    You got a little blue koolaid on your chin there tuddo…….

  22. averageJose says:

    LOL… sure Tudds.

  23. averageJose, you got any proof or information. I know what you are quoting, some early outrage by Rossi supporters. When the truth came out in the trial, they shut up, but the lie lingers on in the minds of gullible conspiracy theorists.

  24. and, took, my info came straight from the factual analysis done in the trial over the recount. Give us your source of koolaid.

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