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PARKS: Too many bucks for ducks

Letter by Rod Chiapusio, Gig Harbor on July 16, 2012 at 1:02 pm with 31 Comments »
July 16, 2012 1:02 pm

Re: “Don’t feed the critters” (TNT, 7-16).

The article informs us that Metro Parks is paying off-duty Tacoma police officers $55 per hour to tell people to stop feeding the ducks and other critter at Point Defiance Park.

If Metro Parks has money available for this kind of frivolous spending, I suggest that its future tears and begging for additional tax dollars which support this type of spending be totally ignored.

Leave a comment Comments → 31
  1. sandblower says:

    Yes, we could take the officers out of the park and then close it down…….or keep it open and let people be bitten and have other law enforcement problems. The officers would then be available to write tickets for people on the phone or texting while driving.
    I’m not sure the trade-off is very good, but it makes as much sense at the letter does.

  2. Why not use volunteers? Place a sign up by the entrance that you enter at your own risk for animal bites?

    Lawyers are winning.

  3. BigSwingingRichard says:

    Today in America we have 43 million people on food stamps, but you can’t feed the ducks at Pt. Defiance Park.

    Welcome to the Obama nation.

  4. tree_guy says:

    Yes, we could take the officers out of the park and then close it down” sandblower

    Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/07/16/too-many-bucks-for-ducks/#comments#storylink=cpy

    Once again Sandblower you haven’t read the letter to the editor carefully.

    The writer didn’t suggest that we shouldn’t pay somebody to enforce the no-duck feeding rule, nor did he suggest that we close down the parks.

    He suggested that paying somebody $55 per hour for this service was unreasonable. I happen to agree.

  5. sandblower says:

    tree_guy, who beside law enforcement personnel can legally do what has to be done to stop the illegal feeding of animals? Volunteers will not work; the liability would be horrendous. Unarmed security guards would not work either; they have no power to arrest.
    It is a logical conclusion to close the park or to let the feeders be bitten if one is going to remove the only enforcement possible. It costs money to keep stupid people in line.

  6. BigSwingingRichard: What’s your point? What’s Obama have to do with feeding the wildlife at the parks? Do you want to swim in the polluted waters of Wapato Lake?

  7. tree_guy says:

    who beside law enforcement personnel can legally do what has to be done to stop the illegal feeding of animals?” sandblower

    Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/07/16/too-many-bucks-for-ducks/#comments#storylink=cpy

    City council or metro parks board can provide for any enforcement arrangement they wish to. There’s no need to have a $55 hour cop with a gun to cuff a senior citizen giving some day old bread to a stupid duck. Try to be reasonable sandblower.

  8. Instead of 55 bucks an hour, give them 10% of tickets written.

  9. alindasue says:

    The excessive goose droppings issue had rendered parts of the park nearly unusable. It took a rather large sum to clean up the park and make it as nice as it is. If people don’t take the order to not feed the animals seriously, all that money spent would be wasted by the uncontrolled geese populations seeking a handout of food that’s not terribly good for their digestive systems.

    In that light, the $55 per hour for a few hours a week of police enforcement is but a small investment that keeps us from having to make another huge investment later.

  10. … who beside law enforcement personnel can legally do what has to be done to stop the illegal feeding of animals?

    How about park employees? Geez, blower, have you not been to PDP lately? They must have 1,000 employees.

    I use the park frequently. Metro parks maintenance vehicle traffic outnumbers police vehicles by 20 to 1. They don’t need cops to enforce rules against people feeding animals in the zoo, so what would be so difficult about posting signs and having existing park personnel keep an eye out for offenders?

  11. MyBandito says:

    Better that $55 should go into the pocket of the person who earned it than end up in some corporate profit sinkhole and being exported to a third world country, or in an account in the Cayman Islands.

    That officer will spend that money locally, helping our economy.

  12. tree_guy says:

    Better that $55 should go into the pocket of the person who earned it than end up in some corporate profit sinkhole and being exported to a third world country, or in an account in the Cayman Islands.

    That officer will spend that money locally, helping our economy.” bandito

    Flag comment

    Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/07/16/too-many-bucks-for-ducks/#comments#storylink=cpy

    Well, using that “logic” we should pay the officers $1000 per hour or more because that way we would be improving the local economy and hurting the private economy which sends all it’s money to the Cayman Islands. Brilliant!

  13. MyBandito says:

    You flagged my comment?

  14. tree_guy says:

    nobody flagged your comment bandito. when I copy and pasted it into my response that message just showed up. sorry. I like your comments. Keep ‘em coming.

  15. $105,000 per year job handing out tickets to violent wild animal feeding felons. Perhaps Metro Parks service should double the wages considering the danger involved. I’m sure it won’t be very long before Metro Parks will be after more tax revenue to support this very worth while and hazardous job.

  16. alindasue says:

    oldoc,
    There is a police substation at Wapato Lake. While they may be out occasionally handing out tickets to people who choose to ignore the dozens of “do not feed the wildlife” signs, that is not their only purpose for being there in the park. They are not paid $105,000 (or whatever their actual salaries are) just for handing out the tickets.

    However, the time that is spent handing out those tickets is a good investment in maintaining the quality of the park we just paid to clean up.

  17. Off duty means their regular employment hours have been satisfied. The $105,000 per year handing out tickets is an entirely seperate remuneration and IT IS EXCESSIVE!

  18. alindasue says:

    oldoc,
    Unless the police officers are constantly working 16 hour days, the “off duty” work is not going to equal anywhere near $105,000 per year.

  19. sandblower says:

    Only duly sworn law enforcement officers can enforce the law. If you do not understand that simple point, I cannot help you. And it is more than enforcing the wildlife feeding issue.

  20. tree_guy says:

    Only duly sworn law enforcement officers can enforce the law. If you do not understand that simple point, I cannot help you” sandblower

    Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/07/16/too-many-bucks-for-ducks/#comments#storylink=cpy

    So, deputize some minimum wage labor ready workers and give them a ticket book and tell them to get busy. If you don’t understand this simple point, I cannot help you.

  21. MyBandito says:

    It’s always about minimum wage with you. No job is so important that it should pay more than minimum wage.

    Try living on minimum wage.

  22. MyBandito says:

    And Labor Ready….the bottom feeders…the dredge of society. Those with no skills or ambition who need a daily dose to survive.

  23. tree_guy says:

    Try living on minimum wage.” my bandito

    Try living on no wage…then tell me which one is worse.

  24. MyBandito says:

    Yes! Minimum wage is better than no wage.

    Living wage is better than minimum wage.

    Now you’re starting to get it.

    Prosperity is better than austerity.

  25. MyBandito says:

    But if you can’t make it on minimum wage……..what makes it better than no wage?

  26. tree_guy says:

    Why is minimum wage better than no wage? MyBandito

    Minimum wage= $18,080 income per year
    No wage= zero income per year

  27. MyBandito says:

    Yep! Not much.

  28. Alindasue wrote: “oldoc, Unless the police officers are constantly working 16 hour days, the “off duty” work is not going to equal anywhere near $105,000 per year.”

    $55.00 per hr. X 8 hrs=$440.00 per day
    $440.00 per day X 5 days=$2200.00 per week
    $2200.00 per week X 4 weeks=$8800.00 per month
    $8800.00 per month X 12 months=$105,600.00 per year.

    Alindasue, the complaint is about the excessive HOURLY RATE OF PAY, not that off duty police are performing it.

  29. MyBandito says:

    The letter is about paying someone to “tell people to stop feeding the ducks and other critter at Point Defiance Park.” And that if they have money “for this kind of frivolous spending,” they need not bother to ask for more.

    The “hourly rate of pay” is not what this letter is about.

  30. I cannot believe someone actually believes overpaying someone to yell at old people and kids for feeding ducks is a form of stimulus. How absolutely asinine, and a great example of what is wrong with the leftists today.

  31. MyBandito says:

    I CAN believe that someone actually believes that underpaying someone is a form of stimulus. What’s good for me is good for me. Screw the rest of you.

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