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CLIMATE: We humans are heating up the Earth

Letter by Martha Bishop, Port Orchard on July 10, 2012 at 11:33 am with 26 Comments »
July 10, 2012 2:45 pm

Monday night a torrent of rain woke me, and then came the thunder and lighting. A thousand years ago I would have blamed it on the gods and despaired of their anger. Now I blame it on humankind and feel despair.

I have lived in the Puget Sound area for nearly 60 years. That storm would have been uncommon 10 years ago. Now it is less so. Drenching rains similar to the monsoons I experienced in Japan happen more often. Links between extreme weather and climate change are rarely made, but it is time to start making them.

Bill Nye the Science Guy can surely be trusted. He has done an experiment with two jars. One of the jars has CO2 in it, while the other has oxygen. He shines a light on them and watches the temperature of the jars. The one filled with CO2 gets hotter faster.

His experiment mimics what we do every day. We pour 88 million tons of CO2 into the thin blanket of our atmosphere every day. It does not go into outer space. It is only logical that this is going to cause problems.

We in the beautiful Northwest have escaped many of those problems. We have not experienced devastating floods like Thailand and Bangladesh. Our houses are not in flames. Our crops are not ruined by drought.

Why care about a little thunder and lightning? Because it is our country and our world that are hurting. The earth gods are angry.

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  1. Please do not use Bill Nye as your example. He should be knows as Bill Nye the DUI guy, drunk driver…cant be trusted

  2. Theefrinker says:

    Martha, it is incrediby arrogant to think that we are a threat to the earth. Even before us, the earth has experienced numerous climate changes, earthquakes, and thunderstorms; and it is doing just fine. We are the only ones threatened by our actions, and that’s the way it should be. And just to be clear, when I say “we” are the only ones being threatened, I’m clearly ignoring the damage we’ve caused to many animals but that’s a different conversation.

  3. aislander says:

    Another self-flagellating lib…

  4. Check out NOAA latest study – was on the nightly news –


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    (CBS News) On Tuesday, for the first time, government scientists are saying recent extreme weather events are likely connected to man-made climate change. It’s the conclusion of a report by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

    The report says last year’s record drought in Texas was made “roughly 20 times more likely” because of man made climate change, specifically meaning warming that comes from greenhouse gasses like carbon dioxide. The study, requested by NOAA, looked at 50 years of weather data in Texas and concluded that man-made warming had to be a factor in the drought.

    The head of NOAA’s climate office, Tom Karl, said: “What we’re seeing, not only in Texas but in other phenomena in other parts of the world, where we can’t explain these events by natural variability alone. They’re just too rare, too uncommon.”

    Aside from the Texas drought, NOAA called the entire year of 2011 the year of extreme weather events, starting in Joplin, Missouri.

    But…go ahead and dismiss their conclusions as the product of “self-flagellating libs” – ab hominem attacks are just so useful when you don’t have empirical data to support your denial.

  5. Fibonacci says:

    The dinners on the right will be the downfall. How many scientists will it take before they believe that the earth IS heating up and that humans re one contributing factor? Would it be 99%? 99.995% Or will you hold out as long as there is one guy out there that says what the right wants him to sayh?

  6. Fibonacci says:

    Ah that would be deniers not dinners–lol

  7. Earth’s population control attempt.

  8. aislander says:

    beerBoy: I get an ab hominen attack after about 200 situps…

  9. bobcat1a says:

    Science is a liberal trick to keep rich people from enjoying their money.

  10. SafewayOrangeSoda says:

    “That storm would have been uncommon 10 years ago.”



    I don’t know how long “Martha” has actually lived here, but I don’t think it’s been nearly “60 years”. Maybe 60 days, as a transplant from California? There’s a reason why the Pacific Northwest is considered to be a deciduous rainforest area.

    I’ve been living here in Washington for twenty years (not nearly 60, but far longer than I believe Martha has been here), and I’ve seen the entire gamut of weather- from many, many frequent rainstorms to the ice storms during the Clinton administration and, every once in a while, a nice summer like we’re having here.

    You can argue all you want about climate change, but to claim that rainstorms are unusual here is just plain batty.

  11. averageJose says:

    Martha, as I have been told several times… “Weather does not equal climate. Ergo, a six foot tall pygmy does not mean that pygmies are now all tall.” :)
    Take a deep breath sweetheart.

  12. LeePHill says:

    Please do not use Bill Nye as your example. He should be knows as Bill Nye the DUI guy, drunk driver…cant be trusted

    ergo George Bush is not to be trusted….

  13. LeePHill says:

    “but to claim that rainstorms are unusual here is just plain batty”

    and not knowing the difference between rain and thunder/lightening is….????

  14. beerBoy: I get an ab hominen attack after about 200 situps…

    I thought it was after folks had downed a six-pack.

    ab/ad Never took Latin so it is all Greek to me.

  15. It all is Pope John XXIII’s fault – if I had had to learn Latin to be an altar boy I could spell ad hominem correctly.

  16. aislander says:

    Nice break, bB, especially since we BOTH committed typos!

  17. SandHills says:

    Ok, is apppears to be a waste of energy to use any scientific references to convince the unconvincable about humans causing a shift in the climate. I’ll even go so far as to concede that maybe we are merely in a natural cycle of warmer temperatures. But even the naysayers have to admit that if the heat we have seen so far this summer becomes the norm, even for a few years, it will have some serious effects on how we live. As if the weak economy we are living with needed another kick in the gut while its down, what is higher food prices going to do to it? In a capitalist syatem it is all about the golden rule of supply and demand. Well, demand for food is only going to go up, as with our popuplation. What happens if there is a drop on the supply side of the house? We can already see that in such items as king crab legs, and blue fin tuna – only those who can afford the price they demand eat those. It doesn’t take a genius to see that a drop in the production of major crops like wheat and corn will mean higher prices at the grocery – the only question is how high. Maybe the price of gas was mostly affected by speculation, not a drop in production, but long trends of warmer weather will most certainly effect food production – whether it is caused by scientific facts, or political opinions.

    Then some very interesting blue state / red state values will have to be resolved. Will ultra conservatives concede that abortions and birth control are not such a bad idea? Will ultra liberals concede that feeding those who do nothing else but reproduce more mouths to feed only contributes to the problem – no matter how many Prius’s they drive, or how much organic food they themselves eat?

    I guess the one thing both sides can agree to in that we may not like the Chinese solution to population growth – well, unless there is a more acceptable method nature will just have to take its course. Warmer weather trend – whether man made or natural cycle – affecting food prodution just might be natures answer.

  18. SandHills says:

    XBJ98N – my point exactly. Nature will take its course no matter what political color you want to paint reality.

  19. MililaniJag says:

    Interesting that ones belief or disbelief in man made Global Warming….whoops…I mean Climate Change, or is it now Global Climate Disruption hard to keep track as the title keeps changing?? is based on ones political beliefs. More likely it’s telling.

  20. All in favor of reducing the world’s population are invited to a jumping off ceremony on the Tacoma Narrows bridge. Let’s see just how many libs volunteer.

  21. SandHills says:

    But at the heart of it all is human population – there is an end game somewhere down the line, which might be less appealing than what frosty stated.

    We have passed the tipping point. About the only thing that could be done would be even less humane than China’s enforced birth control – and even that program has shown that those with money/influence can get around the draconian rules.

    Warmer weather that effects agriculture production – on top of a growing divide between the haves and have nots (and more have nots are being born every day, and more of the middle class is slipping into the have nots as well) – may be coming sooner than many ever expected. Batten down the hatches, it is going to be a wild ride.

  22. Theefrinker says:

    I would have to agree, SandHills. I’ve always been a fan of natural disasters because it’s one of the few remaining population-controlling methods that the earth has left. But the numbers are usually too small to dent the growth much. Fortunately viruses evolve faster than cures, and comets are always floating around…

  23. averageJose says:

    Printing money certainaly has more to do with high food prices than cyclical weather patterns… as well as using food as an alternate fuel source too.
    Don’t forget how the freezing in the southern states caused damge to citrus crops.

  24. averageJose says:

    LOL, and the left accuses the right of using fear tactics.

  25. aJo – don’t give up your day job.

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