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POLITICS: Left-wing intimidation commonplace

Letter by Craig Chilton, Bonney Lake on July 3, 2012 at 10:37 am with 73 Comments »
July 3, 2012 10:46 am

Re: “Republicanpalooza: A guest list, please” (TNT, 6-26).

Mitt Romney recently held a retreat at a Utah ski resort with many of his big fund-raisers and political supporters. The guest list was not released to the press and The Washington Post objected. According to campaign finance laws, Romney does not have to release the identities of this “bundlers.”

The Post asked, “What is there to hide?” Romney has nothing to hide. He is protecting his big donors from intimidation by the Obama campaign.

Kimberley Strassel, a member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board, exposed an Obama campaign website that publicly named and assailed eight private citizens who were large-dollar donors. Her articles, “Strassel: The President has a list” and “Strassel: Tolling for dirt on the President’s list” identified a former Democratic Senate staffer turned investigator who instigated the smear campaign.

The staffer described the eight donors as having “less than reputable records.” Their “crimes?” They were businessmen who outsourced jobs, profited from oil, worked for a firm that foreclosed on homes and supported traditional marriage. He slimed one on social networks and even searched into his private life.

Intimidation from the political left is commonplace. Ask Sarah Palin. Some people in California received death threats simply for backing traditional marriage.

Didn’t the president call for civility?

A WSJ review (5-11) of the Strassel articles questioned whether the real push for disclosure laws was more about intimidation than voter education. Gee, who knew?

Leave a comment Comments → 73
  1. LeePHill says:

    Oh….the president’s hit list conspiracy. I knew someone would finally start bleeting that one.

    Craig is a perfect sheep

  2. PumainTacoma says:

    Go Romney Go. Saw a great bumber sticker it read: No to Moouchers… using two O’s to symbol the Obama dream rainbow. Made for a good commute laugh.

  3. CrazyJim says:

    We certainly wouldn’t want to know who is buying Willard Richie Rich’s election for him. The public should be kept out of that loop. It’s better they don’t know.

  4. SwordofPerseus says:

    When the left adopts the same smear and ugly politics that the right has engaged in heavily for the last thirty years the little whiners have a hissy fit. When someone punches you in the mouth repeatedly eventually you will pick up a weapon and defend yourself. The right wing has played smash mouth foot ball for years it is high time the Dem’s do the same.

    Last week the Obama campaign extended and olive branch by asking to tone down the hate rhetoric. Romney responded with “We are not going to unilaterally disarm”. So F you Republicons, this is war…gloves off, full disclosure about the hate and disease that is the Republicon platform. Your party wants to destroy America, if you vote “R” by logical extension hate America, and are consciously facilitating your own demise.

  5. sumyungboi says:

    The tactics of the left are loathsome to be sure, but it’s always been that way, and always will be until we again engage in natural selection. They can never get their way through honest debate, so that’s what they’re reduced to. Only look to California’s Prop 8 to see how low these little people can sink with their attempts at intimidation. Funny that many of those simple minded little marionettes got what was coming to them. Nice to know that conservatives are finally learning how it works. Leftists are not interested in debate, or getting along, and once people learn that, they’ll know what to do.

  6. philichi says:

    It’s OK, the unions tried to intimidate people and businesses in Wisconsin too. People were even scared to say how they really voted.

    This administration has given people a taste of European socialism. And they just don’t like it. Heroes are stepping up and fighting to take our country back. They don’t care about the being on “the list”.

  7. My how myopic the right wing dim bats are today.
    One would almost thank there is no such thing as right wing thugs and thuggery.

    Pchi,
    Why won’t Romney release the names of his backers?
    What, or who, is he trying to hide?
    We the people have a right to know

  8. SwordofPerseus says:

    boi-deflecting again, look in the mirror, that’s your problem. “Nice to know that conservatives are finally learning how it works.” ~ Revisionist fiction at its worst, get a clue boi. Buy some if you have to.

  9. sumyungboi says:

    xring: “We the people have a right to know”

    No, you don’t. It’s a bunch of rich guys, that’s as far as you get. The only logical reason that you would like to know their names is for intimidation tactics and hacking. That’s it. Deal with it.

    I notice in the paper today Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer donated large sums of money to r-74, a gay marriage referendum. They feel perfectly comfy letting people know who they are, don’t they? And why is that? Because conservative, who make up the bulk of the opposition to re-defining the word “marriage”, will not show up in the street outside their homes, they won’t hack their e-mails, and they won’t ruin any of their stuff. If these same guys had donated to i-1192, could you say the same about how the left would react? Sorry bub, the leftists are immature little brats, and need to be treated as such.

  10. fbergford says:

    I would suggest to you Sword to do the same thing that you just told boi to do! GET A CLUE! Start thinking for yourself and question “THE MANS” motives. He isn’t looking out for you, in fact he probably doesn’t even know who you are outside of your social security number. All of this cr*p is stupid! Replublicons are evil, Demoncrats are terrible…blah blah blah…

  11. philichi says:

    Xring,
    Romney should disclose all of the information that the law requires. If there is more wanted than that, have your lefties change the law. Those are the rules that we all work within.

    Btw, why does the left care who gives money to Romney? Is it hard for them to accept that people despise Obama’s left wing policies and are willing to give millions to move him on to a new carrier?

  12. bobcat1a says:

    Philichi, would you want to know if a Syrian, Iranian or Chinese gave money to a presidential candidate? That’s why we “care who gives money to Romney.” In your innocence, I guess you never heard of ulterior motives, except for the ones you impute to “leftists.”

  13. beerBoy says:

    Really? Exposing who the big donors are is “intimidation”??????

    Wow……I didn’t know rightwingers were intimidated so easily.

  14. beerBoy says:

    philichi – I want to know who all the big investors are – for all candidates. To pretend that there are no favors expected in return is like believing in fairies. Quick philichi, clap your hands to save Tinkerbell’s life.

  15. Whine, whine, whine, that’s what liberals are all about. They controlled the playing field with their union thug cronies for many years until the Supreme Court finally said enough. Corporations are people! Just like unions are people. Stop your slobbering and get over it. The playing field is just a little more level now.

  16. Xring, why don’t you use your name as a moniker on this blog? Same for the professor? Because it is none of our business and affect little (unless you are claiming unverifiable credentials).

    Large donors to BHO get special treatment from the admin. Is that your concern? When Mitt wins you do not want him to act as BHO has?

  17. beerBoy says:

    CT7 – you are comparing writing posts on the TNT site with making massive donations to the campaign for the most powerful position on the planet?????

    What have you been smoking?

  18. beerBoy says:

    But…you seem to be getting it….I didn’t want Obama to repeat the same bad behaviors that I saw in the Bush Administration and that, more than anything, is why I have issues with him. Why should you want Romney to continue the trend?

    Is having a Republican in office that important – that you would be willing to overlook the very same problems that you claim are the reasons why you want to get rid of the Democrat?

  19. LeePHill says:

    Frank Vandersloot is a campaign honcho for Romney and a well know shiester in multi-level marketing (pyramid schemes). Vandershoot’s organization is known for creating websites to attack himself and blame it on left wing organizations. Chilton bit on the bait, as usual.

  20. LeePHill says:

    Note that neither Strassel nor Chilton site the alleged website

  21. beerBoy says:

    “cite the site”

  22. Hill, are you making stuff up again?

    Bb- Who said Romney would toss $800b stimulus at his donors? If he does, he will be judged accordingly. I can overlook a lot to get the current admin tossed, specifically Mitt’s lack of flavor. But I am torn, perhaps that is exactly what we need. We need someone who has a led in the real world, not just politics.

    All these big donors are doing is following a SCOTUS ruling. Theme of the week.

    And I see it as balancing the big union donations, way more distasteful then a single rich guy spending his own cash.

  23. LeePHill says:

    “big unions”

    Making up 7% of the workforce.

    Do these fools ever think before they comment?

  24. What a waste of time. That was a poorly put together hit piece on Fox.

    Back to your lies,

    Frank L. VanderSloot (born August 14, 1948) is an American entrepreneur, radio network owner and cattle rancher. He is chief executive officer of Melaleuca, Inc., an Idaho Falls, Idaho,-headquartered company that sells home goods and health-related products.[1][2] VanderSloot is one of thirteen national finance co-chairs for the 2012 Mitt Romney presidential campaign.[3].

    From Wiki. Also, he is big into charity, assisting orphans, 9/11 victims, and Katrina victims. 2007 Salvation Army award.

    So he is anti-gay marriage (obviously Maddow’s personal beef).

    Once again you lie. You attempted to smear him just now. No doubt he is a better man than you.

  25. LeePHill says:

    “He is chief executive officer of Melaleuca, Inc”

    Which is a multi-level marketing scheme…..

    Hit piece – LMAO

  26. Fibonacci says:

    CT7
    I have to say, you are one of the most hate filled people I have seen on here. You love to throw around words like liar, you lie, etc. I think the country does deserve to know who is sending money to our candidates, and that includes both parties. If they are disreputable then I want to know. I want to know who our leaders are beholden to, but for the Cons, none of that matters.

    This crappola about Obama and socialism is getting silly. I am not an Obama fan, but if you Cons knew anything at all about what Socialism is, then you would not be so free to throw the word around. I have read posts by both sides and if I count, there is more hate from the right than the left, the right just hides theirs in “what is best for the country”.

  27. sumyungboi says:

    First off, a link to msnbc?? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

    Second, bB, most rich doners do so with the knowledge that some filthy left wing knit cap wearing bath needing cop instigating (but notice they cry like the little babies when the cops knock them on their sorry rear ends) little tool won’t be defecating on their property or ruining their things and running off like second graders. The rest of us would just as soon wipe the wall with the little punks. An occupy Tacoma jerk did in fact threaten my wife when I wrote a twitter comment critical of their cause. Took about fifteen minutes, and that’s just the way the little punks work. Now let’s hear some of the commie punks defend that, can’t wait. Bunch of little kids whom I hate, yes, absolutely hate.

  28. chile74 says:

    BB – Srassel gave the web site – “Keeping GOP Honest” – nice name for a smear campaign. Obama has not objected to this site – Chicago politics are fine.

    CT7 – nice research. By the way, Obama has a sister organization to his super PAC, Priorities USA, that does not disclose its donors.

    The left is whining because Romney may out fundraise Obama or at least equal his fundraising. It wasn’t a problem for him in 2008 when he had a 2-1 money advantage over McCain. Now Obama disciples are smearing Romney donors to hold down big donations.

  29. Direct marketing is bad for some reason? Multi-level marketing. Oh no! So evil.

    Come Hill, make some sense.

    And Fib, why are so worried about emotion?

  30. chile74 says:

    Fibon – you lie or you are a liar is not the same as F…you by Perseus or your crappola. I think you don’t know what you are talking about. I come on now and then and its the same obscenities from the left.

    BB – aren’t you supposed to be refereeing this group?

    Sorry – It’s Kimberley Strassel.

  31. If this weren’t so dang pathetic it would by hysterical, SOP:

    “When the left adopts the same smear and ugly politics that the right has engaged in heavily for the last thirty years the little whiners have a hissy fit. When someone punches you in the mouth repeatedly eventually you will pick up a weapon and defend yourself. The right wing has played smash mouth foot ball for years it is high time the Dem’s do the same.”

    What planet have you been living on lo these many years that you would make such a naive and ignorant remark? Chicago Dems get the prize for the nastiest, cheapest and dirtiest politics in American history. President Obama et. al have been mentored by the best.

  32. LeePHill says:

    How can someone on twitter threaten one’s wife?

    As someone who has had his personal address, phone number and employer posted on newspaper blogs and people were encouraged to harass, I find that one rather interesting.

    “Chicago Dems get the prize for the nastiest, cheapest and dirtiest politics in American history.”

    Was it Chicago Dems that did a whisper campaign about John McCain being the father of a bastard black child? Nope. Bush and Rove.

  33. LeePHill says:

    Oh and if you want to say that Maddow is lying…well…it seems that Frankie already tried a lawsuit directed as MSNBC saying that his name is “copyrighted”, thus anytime they say his name is an enfringement….

    …it was laughed out of court.

    The judge recognized MSNBC was media and has a right to report the news.

    If Frankie had real slander grounds, the suit would have been filed long ago.

  34. sandblower says:

    Another one from Chilton……….ho hum…….
    In a word….nonsense.

  35. beerBoy says:

    chile – with my “cite the site” post I was doing a little spell-correcting for the post that was above mine – I don’t really care about the citation.

    As I have written in previous campaigns – the best thing would be to require candidates to wear uniforms covered with the logos of their sponsors – just like NASCAR drivers. If there is nothing wrong with them accepting donations (errr…..”speech”) from multi-billionaires then there should be no problem in letting us all know who is investing in them.

    And CT7, to think that wealthy capitalists would not expect a return from their investments is naive at best….Clap, clap ct7….”I do believe in fairies, I do!”

  36. chile74 says:

    Lee – CT7 got it right. You’re using the Huffington Post and Rachael Maddow as your rebuttal? What a joke! Maddow is a liberal political commentator NOT a journalist and the story is not an “alternative reality scandal”. MSNBC is NOT the mainstream media. It’s for lefties like you. Nobody delved into the private lives of Bill Ayers, George Soros or Reverend Wright – their wives or kids. Maddow’s guest was wrong just like her side of the story.

    Kimberley Strassel is a well respected journalist at the WSJ and she broke the story in the mainstream media in late April and May. Besides Vandersloot, 7 other private citizens were slimed. Private lives should be private and Obama should have taken down this website.
    The fact that Vandersloot is against the homosexual lifestyle being presented in the 1-3rd grades or that he is against gay marriage is inconsequential. Many Americans feel the same way (North Carolina – vote for traditional marriage was 61%).

    The ACORN, Van Jones and the Black Panther stories were in the Mainstream Media and were not “alternative reality stories”. Maddow is not a source of legitimate news. The WSJ is.

  37. sumyungboi says:

    lee, you’re trying to persuade people politically. It doesn’t matter if it’s really rich guys trying to persuade Romney, or little tiny people like you trying to persuade passers by on a small town newspaper comment section, political persuasion is just that, a vote is a vote.

    I demand you tell me your real name and your address. I have a right to know. Do it now.

  38. LeePHill says:

    I have to laugh at the cons that discount every media source and defend FOX as “right-center journalism”. Oh…and who owns “WSJ”? The same guy that owns FOX….amazing, huh?

    “Many Americans feel the same way (North Carolina – vote for traditional marriage was 61%)”

    Someone missed the memo on the signature gathering in Washington State.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/04/us-usa-gaymarriage-washingtonstate-idUSBRE8621F420120704

    Oh…that’s right. Reuters is a left wing propaganda company….isn’t it?

    There are bloggers that make a living debunking FOX, just because of the pure volume of their lies. Someone prove that Dr. Maddow lied in her expose on VanderSloot.

  39. LeePHill says:

    Sumyungboi…..was the threat anything like what you just directed at me?

    Oh gawd….how did I miss this plum???

    “Nobody delved into the private lives of Bill Ayers, George Soros or Reverend Wright”

    Now THAT is funny.

    Chile – are you a comedian doing satire?

  40. Hill, add the Choom Gang, Michelle’s no show job, or his grades to the list of things ignored by the left.

    Exposé? Try again. Once again what is illegal, unethical, or even wrong in Hill’s eyes about Vandersloot’s occupations?

    Admit it, you were sold an idea, a progressive dream, and we all ended up with a failure.

  41. LeePHill says:

    CT7……”ignored by the left”…..

    Maybe stupid things are best ignored.

    LOL

    Issues with VanderSloot’s business ventures are all over the internet, except on websites that talk about “Choom Gangs” and such.

  42. took14theteam says:

    “By contrast, the backers of the repeal referendum, Preserve Marriage Washington, had submitted 247,331 signatures on June 6 to qualify it for the ballot.”

    Someone didn’t read the article on signature gathering in Washington state.

    Nice cherry picking Larry.

  43. LeePHill says:

    Oh, I see. They favor one discrimination initiative over another.

    My bad.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/21/washington-state-poll-gay-marriage-marijuana_n_1616205.html

    (A Reuters article published in Huffpo for those who know that Huffpo is a communist threat to our freedom)

    Back to the subject of “Chicago Dems get the prize for the nastiest, cheapest and dirtiest politics in American history.”

    Who made nasty jokes about Chelsea Clinton? It sure wasn’t Chicago Dems.

  44. charliebucket says:

    wow you fox ‘news’ watchers and rush listeners are brainwashed. plain and simple. there is no use even trying to talk to you. garbage in, garbage out.

  45. sumyungboi says:

    lee, you’re deflecting, I want to know your real name and address. Why won’t you tell me? What are you afraid of?

  46. SwordofPerseus says:

    CT7, someyungclown you are blowing my theory that all idiots are happy, you are both very angry and full of hate. Why don’t you take a break and maybe get some exercise. BTW thanks for proving that the letter writer is clueless.

  47. sumyungboi says:

    Sword, what is your real name and your address. I have a right to know, since many of your comments are meant to persuade.

  48. Fibonacci says:

    sumyunboi
    Damn man, why the anger? Can’t the right make a point without such hate, remember, God is on the side to the righties.

  49. sumyungboi – I recommend you dial down your internet testosterone a notch or ten. Posts like that aren’t going to go well with the moderators.

    All this tough guy bravado from keyboard warriors typing from their parents’ basements always cracks me up. yungboi – your screen name fits you well, you are acting like you are in middle school.

  50. LeePHill says:

    sumyungboi knows my name and my location.

    I’m not hard to find.

  51. Sop, Hill, and Bb just all deflected and whined about emotions.

    The Choom gang should be ignored? The fact that our President gave a shoutout to his drug dealer in his HS yearbook is material. Everything in his ‘autobiographies’ is fair game.

    Just because they show him for what he is does not mean they should e ignored, except by those with insane, blind trust in a failed pol, community organizer, and guest university speaker(not professor).

    “Stupid” stuff should be ignored? Did Bush get that same treatment? Will Mitt? The fact that clowns on this board still claim he shipped jobs overseas show that people like Hill coul care less about the truth. Instead we see a bunch of type B lady-men worried about someone’s anger. Nice.

  52. LeePHill says:

    “After Barack Obama became an Illinois state legislator, his wife moved up as well, scoring a job as ‘vice president of community relations’ at the University Of Chicago Hospital for a very generous salary of $121,910.”

    “Conservative leader Rush Limbaugh got a dig in on Michelle Obama last night on Greta’s show. He reminded viewers that she didn’t get her “no-show” job in Chicago on her own. It was only because of her husband that she was hired to work at a hospital where she was paid $63,000 in 2008 for a job she didn’t go to.”

    OK….so which one is the correct one? The real question here is how would anyone get her salary information on a job in the private sector?

    Now, these bloggers wouldn’t just make this up, would they? As we know, Rush Limbaugh has never told a lie in his life…..

    Interesting how they call it a “no show” job – which is Mafia vernacular. Most community relations VPs show up everyday, because the value of their job is who they are. Who bettter to put the arm on people for favors and donations than the wife of a high profile politician?

  53. LeePHill says:

    Then, when all else fails, you can look on the internet and find the truth:

    In 1996, she served as the Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago, where she developed the University’s Community Service Center.[48] In 2002, she began working for the University of Chicago Hospitals, first as executive director for community affairs and, beginning May 2005, as Vice President for Community and External Affairs.[49] She continued to hold the University of Chicago Hospitals position during the primary campaign, but cut back to part time in order to spend time with her daughters as well as work for her husband’s election;[50] she subsequently took a leave of absence from her job.[51] According to the couple’s 2006 income tax return, her salary was $273,618 from the University of Chicago Hospitals, while her husband had a salary of $157,082 from the United States Senate.

  54. sumyungboi says:

    lee, I don’t know your real name nor your address. Just go ahead and post it here, unless you’re afraid of something (?)

  55. sumyungboi says:

    bB: “Posts like that aren’t going to go well with the moderators.”

    Unlike you and your lefty pals, I’m sure the mods are bright enough to see the point I’m making.

  56. beerBoy says:

    I see your point – you better hope that the moderators don’t.

  57. LeePHill says:

    I see your point.

    A hat will help

  58. Hill, who has that job (Mrs BHO’s) today? I’ll save you the google, no one. It was created for her, and when she left the made-up job disappeared.

    “OK….so which one is the correct one? The real question here is how would anyone get her salary information on a job in the private sector?”

    Typical. Post something ignorant then google the subject. I wonder if I searched around the archives how many progressives I can find whining about hospital pay here in Tacoma….

  59. LeePHill says:

    Maybe The First Lady’s job was outsourced by Romney’s company.

    It’s really funny to watch these people try to make up issues.

    “sumyungboi says:
    July 4, 2012 at 1:39 pm lee, I don’t know your real name”

    This quote was directed to “LeePHill” by “sumyungboi” How ironic is that???

    Didn’t anyone teach you to use a directory for addresses?

  60. LeePHill says:

    CT7…did you notice that neither of the screamer stories had Mrs. Obama’s salary even close to right? A little math challenged, I see.

    Now, let me see if I have this right. A woman (black) with Ivy League credentials shouldn’t make close to $300K per year in a high profile hospital job, but this is the land of opportunity and free market.

    You know, you really make this easy for me.

  61. LeePHill, why do you liberals always have to bring up a person’s race? Don’t you ever get tired of leaning on that crutch? Stand on your own two feet, act like a man for once in your miserable life.

  62. LeePHill says:

    So when you bring up the high rate of unemployment among blacks it’s not “bringing up race”?

  63. Discussing demographic trends and issues is not the same as implying racism. Even you can see the difference.

  64. Bandito says:

    Didn’t the Right whine about revealing the names of those who signed their little initiative because they were afraid of “Left Wing Intimidation” which BTW, never happened?

  65. LeePHill says:

    Mentioning race isn’t racism.

  66. Only when it’s a liberal using race as a talking point. Let a conservative mention the “R” word and it makes national news.

  67. Oh yes….the conservative persecution complex…..

  68. took14theteam says:

    And through your lens, you don’t see or want to see what other people notice.

    I thought that Arts degree made you all knowing?

  69. beerBoy says:

    The letter claims some odd things:

    How can a reporter “expose” an internet site whose purpose is to transmit information openly?

    How is a reporter writing “less than reputable records” equivalent to “crimes”, “slimed” or a “smear campaign” by the President?

    How is putting forward the names of major donors “intimidation”?

    What does Sarah Palin have to do with this?

    Who are “some people in California”?

  70. beerBoy says:

    How is “protecting his big donors” “nothing to hide”?

  71. beerBoy says:

    took – I guess the fact that many of us don’t agree with you about the “liberal news bias” is evidence of how persecuted you really are…..

    And images of that tweener girl petulantly stamping her foot keep coming back…..

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