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		<title>By: beerBoy</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226820</link>
		<dc:creator>beerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[aislander - there are facts that you cite but the connections/causations that your draw are absurdist opinions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aislander &#8211; there are facts that you cite but the connections/causations that your draw are absurdist opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: aislander</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226745</link>
		<dc:creator>aislander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;When&lt;/i&gt; did you &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; prove such a thing, x? You are a legend in your own mind...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When</i> did you <i>ever</i> prove such a thing, x? You are a legend in your own mind&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: xring</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226739</link>
		<dc:creator>xring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having  shown, once again, that your posts are not only totally, unequivocally wrong, and are nothing more than regurgitated fox spewed republicon talking points, I invoked the mercy rule and left you to slink away in peace. Unfortunately, you prefer to continue riding a dead donkey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having  shown, once again, that your posts are not only totally, unequivocally wrong, and are nothing more than regurgitated fox spewed republicon talking points, I invoked the mercy rule and left you to slink away in peace. Unfortunately, you prefer to continue riding a dead donkey.</p>
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		<title>By: aislander</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226724</link>
		<dc:creator>aislander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So...xring you are yet again declaring victory when you have proved nothing except that YOU are the one doing the &quot;name-calling...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;xring you are yet again declaring victory when you have proved nothing except that YOU are the one doing the &#8220;name-calling&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: xring</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226715</link>
		<dc:creator>xring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 00:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Asilander – you remind me of the Monte Python Knight that does not know he is losing until he is a head.

You ‘facts’ and arguments were well and truly laid to rest, again.
 
Therefore, after my 6/30/12, post of 3:42 am, there was no reason to respond to your puerile taunts and name-calling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asilander – you remind me of the Monte Python Knight that does not know he is losing until he is a head.</p>
<p>You ‘facts’ and arguments were well and truly laid to rest, again.</p>
<p>Therefore, after my 6/30/12, post of 3:42 am, there was no reason to respond to your puerile taunts and name-calling.</p>
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		<title>By: aislander</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226693</link>
		<dc:creator>aislander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 18:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, beerBoy, you have yet to provide a refutation of &lt;i&gt;fact&lt;/i&gt;, merely a recitation of someone else&#039;s &lt;i&gt;opinion&lt;/i&gt;. That is, as I have pointed out many times, called an &lt;i&gt;argumentum ad verecundiam&lt;/i&gt;, and is not dispositive. 

Moreover, that opinion does not even address the points I have made regarding the documented shared roots of fascism and progressivism, nor their programmatic similarities, nor the ideological self identification of the principles in the movement, although I shall grant that those varied, depending on circumstances. Mussolini was nothing if not a proponent of the philosophy of pragmatism.

I called your citation above a straw man because I have rarely, if ever, made (or cited) the type of argument you accused me of making...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, beerBoy, you have yet to provide a refutation of <i>fact</i>, merely a recitation of someone else&#8217;s <i>opinion</i>. That is, as I have pointed out many times, called an <i>argumentum ad verecundiam</i>, and is not dispositive. </p>
<p>Moreover, that opinion does not even address the points I have made regarding the documented shared roots of fascism and progressivism, nor their programmatic similarities, nor the ideological self identification of the principles in the movement, although I shall grant that those varied, depending on circumstances. Mussolini was nothing if not a proponent of the philosophy of pragmatism.</p>
<p>I called your citation above a straw man because I have rarely, if ever, made (or cited) the type of argument you accused me of making&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: beerBoy</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226676</link>
		<dc:creator>beerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 15:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmmm.....do you know what a straw man is?  And how that differs from an analogy?

Are you saying you don&#039;t rely upon the Goldberg book?

I do wish I would have used absurd leaps in logic that I have seen - Hitler was a vegetarian therefore.....  or Hitler was an atheist therefore....


Austin W. Bramwell wrote in The American Conservative:
&lt;i&gt;Repeatedly, Goldberg fails to recognize a reductio ad absurdum. ... In no case does Goldberg uncover anything more ominous than a coincidence. ... In elaborating liberalism’s similarities to fascism, Goldberg shows a near superstitious belief in the power of taxonomy. ... Goldberg falsely saddles liberalism not just with relativism but with all manner of alleged errors having nothing to do with liberalism. ... Not only does Goldberg misunderstand liberalism, but he refuses to see it simply as liberalism... Liberal Fascism reads less like an extended argument than as a catalogue of conservative intellectual clichés, often irrelevant to the supposed point of the book. ... Liberal Fascism completes Goldberg’s transformation from chipper humorist into humorless ideologue.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230;..do you know what a straw man is?  And how that differs from an analogy?</p>
<p>Are you saying you don&#8217;t rely upon the Goldberg book?</p>
<p>I do wish I would have used absurd leaps in logic that I have seen &#8211; Hitler was a vegetarian therefore&#8230;..  or Hitler was an atheist therefore&#8230;.</p>
<p>Austin W. Bramwell wrote in The American Conservative:<br />
<i>Repeatedly, Goldberg fails to recognize a reductio ad absurdum. &#8230; In no case does Goldberg uncover anything more ominous than a coincidence. &#8230; In elaborating liberalism’s similarities to fascism, Goldberg shows a near superstitious belief in the power of taxonomy. &#8230; Goldberg falsely saddles liberalism not just with relativism but with all manner of alleged errors having nothing to do with liberalism. &#8230; Not only does Goldberg misunderstand liberalism, but he refuses to see it simply as liberalism&#8230; Liberal Fascism reads less like an extended argument than as a catalogue of conservative intellectual clichés, often irrelevant to the supposed point of the book. &#8230; Liberal Fascism completes Goldberg’s transformation from chipper humorist into humorless ideologue.</i></p>
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		<title>By: pantomancer</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226641</link>
		<dc:creator>pantomancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 02:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aislander</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226627</link>
		<dc:creator>aislander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 23:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm. &lt;i&gt;Can&lt;/i&gt; a straw man breast feed? beerBoy seems to have found a way...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. <i>Can</i> a straw man breast feed? beerBoy seems to have found a way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aislander</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2012/06/28/where-is-the-outcry/#comment-226626</link>
		<dc:creator>aislander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 23:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, beerBoy, your assertion that I have never provided supporting material other than of the nature of your &quot;breast-feeding&quot; straw man is...well...an untruth. To put it kindly...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, beerBoy, your assertion that I have never provided supporting material other than of the nature of your &#8220;breast-feeding&#8221; straw man is&#8230;well&#8230;an untruth. To put it kindly&#8230;</p>
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