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GUNS: Suburbs under siege

Letter by Michael J. Spencer, Raymond on June 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm with 17 Comments »
June 1, 2012 1:21 pm

You describe on the cover page of today’s paper (TNT, 6-1) how the Steele Street Forza coffee shop has been renamed Blue Steele Coffee Co. to honor law enforcement in memory of the four Lakewood police officers slain three years ago.

On another page, you relate how Ian Stawicki, the perpetrator of five recent senseless killings in Seattle, was able to obtain six handguns over the past decade even though he had exhibited very obvious signs of mental impairment and anger-management problems.

Yet, for whatever reason, your lead story on the cover was to glorify the very immature antics of Gig Harbor high school students who play-act out these very same senseless types of behavior. One young lady spends two hours a day updating a website showing the group’s “kills” for the day, who needs to track down whom, etc.

What is wrong with this picture? And with a newspaper that would glorify such garbage in light of so many recent shootings? Suburbs under siege, indeed!

Leave a comment Comments → 17
  1. Ortingmom says:

    The big difference? 2 were horrible and true and the other are kids having traditional fun. One does not turn into the other.

  2. Stawicki’s family claims he had ‘metal problems’ and ‘knew something would happen’ yet did not seek help or take preventative actions.

    Under our legal system, Stawicki cannot be held responsible for his actions, but his family will have to bear the shame, guilt, and responsibilities of their inactions.

  3. aislander says:

    Spencer shows the typical liberal disdain for the ability of people to make distinctions between fantasy and reality, or about anything else, for that matter. That, apparently is what government is for: to do our thinking and judging for us.

    He did make passing reference to the real problem: crazy people allowed to roam free, let alone having access to guns.

    The civil commitment process needs to be restored to its pre-enlightened state, when for that reason (as well as others) we lived in a more civilized society…

  4. sumyungboi says:

    I agree that the nerf-war story was kinda dumb. But to make a connection between those nerf kids and real world killings is dumber. When I was a little kid in the sixties, before PC, almost all kids had cap guns that we shot each other with while we played cowboy or soldier. I would say that there’s way more weirdo psychos these days than back then. What’s the difference? Most of our parents (both of them, what a concept) taught us gun safety and took us shooting. We knew what happened at the business end of a gun at an early age, and death was permanent.

  5. “Spencer shows the typical liberal disdain for the ability of people to make distinctions between fantasy and reality, or about anything else, for that matter.”

    Another excellent example of rightwing hypocrisy.

  6. “The civil commitment process needs to be restored to its pre-enlightened state”

    You mean before saint ronnie the raygun closed the hospitals by defunding them all to ‘cut costs’??
    How are you going to pay for these new internment camps of everyone you fear?

  7. BlaineCGarver says:

    Stuff happens. Not one current or future can avoid all the pain and suffering that a crazed person can conjure up. See: Zombie On East Coast Eats Face. One armed citizen with a little training could have cut this murdering spree short, though.

  8. Does kluwer actually add anything to these discussions or just troll? I will admit I am a lurker and read this daily but c’mon. If you are going to add your two cents, back it up damnit!

  9. BGC – actually some one did – by throwing chairs at the gunman.

    sabre16 – the way this works is you have option of being a llurker or doing some research and disproving the claim that ring wing budget cuts are the route cause behind the lack of treatment facilities and programs.

  10. aislander says:

    The dismantling of our former and effective system of dealing with the dangerously insane was a bipartisan disaster, xring. I am willing to stipulate the guilt on our side in that regard. Will you do the same with respect to your own?

    Conservatives did indeed see a chance to save money on social services, but the left viewed commitment as a civil-rights question and worked to end the practice for that reason.

    There never was a partisan battle over the issue…

  11. and aislander bleats another lie.

  12. aislander says:

    Saying something is a lie is not only rude, but it is poor argumentation. Show us that the left didn’t view the involuntary-commitment issue through the lens of civil rights and participate in the process of “de-institutionalization.” (Hint: you won’t be able to).

  13. Your lie is that it was liberals who dismantled the mental health system.

    The problem with involuntary commitment is WHO gets to decide who gets committed.

  14. aislander says:

    Man, xring, you just don’t read very well, do you? I didn’t say it was liberals who “dismantled the mental-health system”: I said it was a bipartisan disaster, and “it” referred to ending the then-current involuntary-commitment process, NOT the entire system.


  15. aislander says:

    …and you STILL haven’t shown that the left was uninvolved.

    WE’RE willing to acknowledge OUR responsibility. Why won’t YOU own YOURS?

  16. The liberal concern was that due process had to be observed, and that there were safeguards as to who could be committed, for what reasons, and who had the right and authority to request/order an involuntary commitment to prevent state and federal governments from locking up political dissidents.

  17. aislander says:

    Thank you. The left had its reasons and we had ours. We BOTH made an enormous mistake…

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