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MARRIAGE: Obama shows he’s not a true Christian

Letter by Constance V. Walden, University Place on May 10, 2012 at 1:48 pm with 40 Comments »
May 10, 2012 1:48 pm

Now I know for sure that President Obama is not a true Christian. If he is a true believer in Jesus Christ, he would know what Jesus said about marriage being between a man and a woman, a father and a mother, a husband and his wife.

In Matthew 19:5, Jesus said that ” a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” Jesus was quoting Genesis 2:24, which reads, “… a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.” These same statements can also be found in Mark 10:7, and Ephesians 5:31.

If Obama were a true Christian, he would know all of this and would, from the heart, support marriage as ordained by God from the Scriptures.

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  1. charliebucket says:

    I am a lifelong true Christian and I think you are full of it, Constance. Your letters always scare the crap out of me.

  2. I, too am a lifelong Christian, and I know that Constance misinterprets what Chtristianity is all about. She must follow a sort of Old Testament religion about condemnation and judgment and following health codes to the letter. But that is not what Christianity is about.

    Jesus came to change the perception of God and being righteous from following rules to how you treat others. His command was to “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

    What is the greatest commandments in Christianity? “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”

  3. charliebucket says:

    Amen.

  4. charliebucket says:

    I apologize, my comment to Constance was snarky, but whenever I read her letters in the paper, I cringe. Sometimes I just have to say it like it is.

  5. OK.. they talk about Polygamy in the bible, now I can have more wives??

  6. Theefrinker says:

    Actually, Obama has only shown that he believes in human equality over ancient textual (mis)interpretations.

  7. What’s a true Christian, a true Christian has no sins, that would leave nobody here in this galaxy!

  8. scooter6139 says:

    Trying to throw that first stone Constance? Glass houses and all………

  9. RLangdon says:

    Constance, is the word “wife” always gender-specific? Can a wife be a man? Why not?

  10. dgraves says:

    Constance, you forgot a quote from Jesus. “Judge not, lest ye be Judged.”

  11. LornaDoone says:

    “In a piece entitled “Hail to the Chiefs – Malia and Sasha Obama,” Bristol Palin condemned Obama for saying that he was inspired to make the announcement by his daughters’ acceptance of same-sex families. “While it’s great to listen to your kids’ ideas, there’s also a time when dads simply need to be dads,” she wrote. “In this case, it would’ve been helpful for him to explain to Malia and Sasha that while her friends parents are no doubt lovely people, that’s not a reason to change thousands of years of thinking about marriage. Or that – as great as her friends may be – we know that in general kids do better growing up in a mother/father home. Ideally, fathers help shape their kids’ worldview.”

    I thought the Palins were opposed to bringing children into the political arena.

  12. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Great point Ms. Palin!

    4 years ago she was 17 years old.

  13. concernedtacoma7 says:

    2/3 of African American children are born into single parent households. But lets keep attacking traditional families and continue social experiments, the results are great!

    A child born into a male/female household that attends church weekly, finishes high school, and waits until marriage to have kids has a MUCH higher chance of avoiding poverty and lives longer.

    But lets keep supporting the destruction of tradition society.

  14. concerned7, here is some actual research about gays raising children:

    “The census data show that having parents who are the same gender is not in itself any disadvantage to children,” he said. “Parents’ income and education are the biggest indicators of a child’s success. Family structure is a minor determinant.”

    “Rosenfeld’s study shows that children of gay and married couples had lower grade-repetition rates than their peers raised by opposite-sex unmarried couples and single parents. And all children living in some type of family environment did much better than those living in group housing.”
    http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/august/gay-study-083010.html

    and here:
    “The vast consensus of all the studies shows that children of same-sex parents do as well as children whose parents are heterosexual in every way,”

    15 studies “found no differences in intelligence, type or prevalence of psychiatric disorders, self-esteem, well-being, peer relationships, couple relationships, or parental stress.”
    http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20051012/study-same-sex-parents-raise-well-adjusted-kids

    and here:
    “children in lesbian homes scored higher than kids in straight families on some psychological measures of self-esteem and confidence, did better academically and were less likely to have behavioral problems, such as rule-breaking and aggression.”
    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1994480,00.html#ixzz1uWfiQwyM

    Your statement about African-Americans and single-parent families has nothing to do with gay marriage and was meant to cast aspersions on gay people.

    When one stubbornly makes statements that are not true or do not relate to the issue in order to deny equality and make a group of people appear to be not worthy of equality under the law it is called bigotry.

    bigot: “a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group with intolerance”

  15. Connie,

    Thanks for confirming that you’re the sole arbiter of who is and who isn’t a true Christian.

  16. Thankfully the US is a secular democratic republic and not a christian theocracy.

    Long may She reamain the land of the free and the home of the brave!

  17. bobcat1a says:

    Constance is living validation of Mohandas Gandhi’s words: “I like your Christ; I do not like
    your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.”
    The more i hear from self-styled “Christians” like Mitt and Constance, the less stomach I have for Christianity.

  18. wildcelticrose says:

    It seems to me that those who support loving couples committing to each other and having rights are much more christ like, than the kind of Christians who would write a letter like this.

  19. Frankenchrist says:

    Non-man Mitt Romney and a gang piled on a gay kid and held him down while they cut off his hair with a razor. Today, Willard the Chickenhearted says he DOESN’T REMEMBER IT???? He’s a rich bully and a liar. The perfect Republican candidate.

    Fight the Republican War on Women and Gays.

  20. Frankenchrist says:

    Willard and his gang of Richie Rich trust fund bullies beat-up a gay kid and forcibly shave his head. Today, Mittens calls it “youthful hijinxs” and says he doesn’t remember doing it but still he apologizes for it.

    This guy is beyond pathetic and beyond clueless. Republicans, this is the best you could do? Your party is evidently a crumbling wreck.

  21. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Type A vs Type B. Strong vs weak.

    You pick a side. Charity vs taker. Honor vs ? Pride vs ? Duty vs ?

    Is the desire to be rich wrong? No. Is the desire to care and take care of your family noble? Yes.

    Take care of yourself or rely on govt and some ‘rich man or corp’ to pay for your health, shelter, food, and school?

  22. SafewayOrangeSoda says:

    Jesus came to change perceptions about God, and then someone went and wrote Revelations, and it all got thrown out the window.
    God loves you.. but his Giant Beast With A Bunch Of Heads is going to eat you when Jesus gets back. Rargh!

  23. menopaws says:

    The destruction of “traditional society” is thriving courtesy of ignorance, prejudice and mean-spirited politics. Gay marriage will NOT even be a blip on the screen…….This country embraces it’s ugliness in a way that will eventually destroy us. You read some of the vicious stuff on these blogs and begin to realize that our biggest enemy is ourselves………These days being Christian means embracing child abusers, telling women what they MUST do with their bodies and pumping up defense contractors…….so much to brag about???Where do you begin?

  24. charliebucket says:

    paws I have often said (outloud to anyone who would listen) that this country’s demise will come from within, not from any terrorist or outside force or because society progresses (LOL). Our people are eating each other alive with the hate and infighting and poisonous propaganda they are filling their minds with about fellow Americans. We will destroy ourselves from the inside out. It is a soul rot that is spreading.

    Love is the answer, don’t matter the question.

  25. LornaDoone says:

    “concernedtacoma7 says:
    May 10, 2012 at 7:33 pm Great point Ms. Palin!
    4 years ago she was 17 years old.”

    WOW! Anyone old excuse will do when you need one.

    Let’s start with the ages of Sasha and Malia Obama. Neither are over the magical age of 18. (14 and 11 this year)

    Then, let’s be honest and admit that when you take a pregnant 17 year old on the national stage, SOMEONE is going to talk about it….ESPECIALLY when you are a “family values” candidate.

    That same 17 year old that you claim isn’t old enough to be talked about is old enough for a mandatory intrauterine exam with a probe.

    Oh heck…I said “honest”. CT7 hasn’t known that in years.

  26. LornaDoone says:

    “But lets keep supporting the destruction of tradition society.”

    Can we have a witness????

    How about Newt, Tom “HotTub” Delay, Jim “I Love my Camera Man” Bakker, Ted “I’m Cured” Haggard, Mark “I Like Mine Young” Foley and a host of other conservatives who “like it different”?

  27. “4 years ago she was 17 years old.”

    And pregnant out of wedlock.
    Palin is the very last person that should speak of marriage and tradition.

  28. “2/3 of African American children are born into single parent households. But lets keep attacking traditional families and continue social experiments, the results are great!”

    3/3 of the Palins have children out of wedlock…..you happy with those traditional families??

  29. If Mittens can excuse a hate crime committed in high school as a ‘youthful hijinxs’, who can blame a nine year old adolescent for trying new foods?

    CT7 – type A > high strung; type B > easy going = 2 more ignorant incorrect rants.

    Menopaws – ‘traditional society’ changes, it may even bend or break, but will always adapt to reality – think of it as evolution in action.

    LornaDoone – had traditional marriage and society not changed Ms Palin would not have the freedom to share her views with us.

    ‘Do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent’

  30. Sonofwashington says:

    What would Jesus do if he witnessed these Old Testament Christians threaten to stone a newly-married same-sex couple?

  31. BlaineCGarver says:

    America really went to “stuff” after WWII. Gee, I wonder what we have more and less of in society that would account for that?

    I have a problem with Gay marriage. It has nothing to do the hate, or my religious views (either of which does not apply to this argument). I just happen to believe that marriage is one man and one woman. That’s where people are. If they say otherwise, they are scared of the castigation of liberal idiots.

  32. “You are a disgusting old man who constantly attacks women in this blog.”

    To use your own words: instead of your comment-on-a-comment garbage, why not sell your idea? Try to contribute. I know you can do it!

  33. Theefrinker says:

    Blaine: Or they just like the idea of freedom, even if it does not benefit them personally. Isn’t every marriage supposed to be gay, by the way?

  34. CrazyJim says:

    Constance, get down off the cross. Somebody need the wood.

  35. Sonofwashington says:

    OK Blaine, you have a problem with gay marriage. That’s fine.
    You most certainly have a right to your opinion and you need not change. What you can not do in a democratic society is to forbid one’s right to engage in legal acts that others are. I could have a problem with your desire to marry a person of a different race or religion, but I have no right to deny you that right even if I am in the majority.

    And people may not actually be afraid of being castigated by liberal idiots any more than I am afraid of being castigated by conservative idiots for supporting gay rights. They may actually believe in equal rights for all, regardless of their race, ethinicity, religion, or sexual orientation.

  36. “I just happen to believe that marriage is one man and one woman.”

    I don’t think anyone is trying to tell you or anyone else you can’t hold that belief, but I’m sure even a huge conservative idiot like yourself can afford evil gays the same rights you have.
    What harm could possible come from it?

    Remember a few years ago bigots like you all claimed it would ‘destroy’ marriage? What happened to that argument?

  37. “Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
    Go ahead and cheat a friend,
    Do it the Name of Heaven,
    You can justify it in the end.”

    One tin soldier

  38. directcommunicator says:

    Gays and lesbians were no threat to my 30-year marriage. It was ended by serial adultery, which evidently is perfectly legal and very popular among many “Christian” leaders.

    I’ve had it up to here with self-righteous hypocrites who think they have all the answers and the right to impose their religious delusions on the rest of us. Perhaps they should spend a little more time cleaning out their own closets and a little less time trying to keep gays and lesbians in theirs.

  39. normajean says:

    I am happy that finally gay married individuals have certain rights previously denied to them
    for so many years. I am Catholic and would never shun anyone for being gay caz my church
    says it is sinful. Baloney! Enjoy your new found freedoms!

  40. Bandito says:

    Constance V. Walden- There’s no doubt that your scripture quotes were promoting commitment. As heterosexuality makes sense to the vast majority, it’s understandable that the scriptures would focus on heterosexual relationships. But you couldn’t find any scripture that speaks about homosexuality negatively, otherwise you would have used it. Your conclusion that President Obama is not a true Christian shows your narrow minded perception of reality. A true Christian would accept all of God’s children, unconditionally. There’s plenty of scripture to back that up. Start reading.

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