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Letter by Doug Willrich, Bonney Lake on May 10, 2012 at 1:41 pm with 12 Comments »
May 10, 2012 3:30 pm

Re: “Tacoma not alone in debt” (Bill Virgin column, 5-6).

Virgin is on-target with his column regarding taxes, debt and spending at all levels of government. Spending money they don’t have, on stuff they can’t afford, limits the ability to afford what is really needed and necessary.

An additional factor not mentioned is the impact on that part of the population that pays for the excessive spending and subsequent debt.

If you are working or retired and paying taxes, you are part of a decreasing percentage of the population paying more taxes. Your tax burden at any level of government will continue to increase. Additionally, as public debt grows, the instability of that debt will limit real growth in the private sector.

Limiting the size and growth of government is the only way to gain control over how your money is being spent.

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  1. cargilekm says:

    I want to meet the person that has had their taxes raised since the last election. I can’t recall any taxes being passed and or raised both state or national. All the same percentages of taxation, no new taxes,stop the lying. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean the freedom to outright lie.

  2. RLangdon says:

    Would be nice if the TNT added a link to the Bill Virgin article, so I could read it, because Doug’s letter doesn’t seem to make any sense at all!!!

  3. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    I can’t recall any taxes being passed and or raised both state or national.

    Oh, that’s why Money had Washington state in it’s “Top 10 States Where Taxes Are Rising the Most” list:

    http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/flowchart/2010/06/30/10-states-where-taxes-are-rising-the-most

    So… Doug… apparently you don’t buy anything in western Washington (never mind that tacoma has raised the sales tax twice since 2008), own property, an HSA, a motor vehicle, a watercraft or aircraft, an innovator drug company, use tanning services, or buy liquor, gas, cigarettes, over-the-counter drugs, etc, etc…

    And if you aren’t counting 0bamacare or the rest of the massive slew of new taxes and tax increases that are, curiously enough, slated to kick-in January 1, 2013…. or if you’ve been living under a rock.

    I hear sunlight is good for you.

  4. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    RL, here you go:

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/05/06/2133551/tacoma-not-alone-in-debt.html

    And my third paragraph (following the link) should have started as follows:

    “So… cargilekm… ”

    Sorry Doug.

  5. sandblower says:

    Mr. Willrich is not an economist and neither are any of his supporters who refuse to or cannot provide references for their ridiculous claims.

  6. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    blower, I’m not an economist either but I knw how to read a tax statement. I know that Tacoma’s sales tax rate in 2008 was 9.0% – now it’s 9.3, and in July it will be 9.5%.

    Why don’t you try being a bit more specific about your so-called “ridiculous claims”? What exactly is “claimed” anywhere in Mr. Virgin’s piece, Mr. Willrich’s LTE, or any of the supporting comments here, that isn’t correct?

    Could it be because they are so easily proved true?

    Oh yeah, it’s that Alinsky method again:

    – “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”

    – “An organizer working in and for an open society is in an ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have a fixed truth — truth to him is relative and changing; everything to him is relative and changing…. To the extent that he is free from the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the realities of the widely different situations….”

    – “If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside… every positive has its negative.”

    Blah, blah, blah…. yawwwwwwwwn.

    BTW, how’s that “brokered convention” workin’ out for ‘ya?

  7. Vox – IMO carg was thinking of Federal Income Tax only.

    Not only have other taxes gone up, the cost of most goods and services have gone up, while many peoples’ incomes have gone down (or remained level).

    The result is many of us are trying to get by with less disposable income.

  8. RLangdon says:

    Thanks for the link Vox!!!

    Here’s the paragraph that made the whole article relevant:

    “The convention center debacle is part of a larger, depressing and threatening trend. By spending money we don’t have on stuff that, while nice to have, we can’t afford, we limit ourselves on what we can spend for what we really need, not just today but well into the future – barring the unlikely event that this stuff miraculously starts making money.”

    We are always hearing how the government (mostly The Fed) can’t run any business effectively or efficiently, so why do they keep trying?

    The government is supposed to be about collecting taxes, and using those taxes to pay for services for the common good of all the citizens. Why are they allowed to spend tax dollars in “for profit” ventures, that they are almost always guaranteed to fail to turn a profit at? Then they have to collect more taxes to pay for the debt they created by the boondoggle and the continued loss of money generated by the failed business venture.

    The simplest thing to do would be to pass a law that absolute prevent government from running any “for profit” enterprise.

  9. The only way Doug??
    Try and think outside the fox Doug.

  10. “And if you aren’t counting 0bamacare or the rest of the massive slew of new taxes and tax increases that are, curiously enough, slated to kick-in January 1, 2013….”

    And there they are….the lies that need to be repeated often.

  11. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    And there they are….the lies that need to be repeated often.

    Right on cue, the clueless show up to deny the truth. Time for you to put another quarter in the Alinsky piggy bank.

    Thanks for proving my point.

  12. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    cargilekm said:

    I can’t recall any taxes being passed and or raised both state or national.

    x said:

    Vox – IMO carg was thinking of Federal Income Tax only.

    Obviously, x, the disconnect between your “opinion” and what cargilekm actually stated is as vast as the reality gap in his statement.

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