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ROMNEY: Since when did connecting matter?

Letter by James McDonald, Tacoma on March 15, 2012 at 12:05 pm with 108 Comments »
March 15, 2012 12:05 pm

I find it interesting that the rap on Mitt Romney is he can’t connect with people. In 2008, we elected a person who had no executive experience, less than two years as a senator before running for president and voted present for much of his time in the Illinois state Senate. His highest qualification was he sent shivers up liberals’ legs.

Our debt has increased $4 trillion, unemployment is more than 8.3 percent and Iran is on the cusp of obtaining nuclear weapons, but at least we are connected and have tingling legs!

I don’t care if Romney or anyone else can connect with me. I want someone who will lower our debt, preserve Social Security and Medicare, get rid of Obamacare, reduce the massive influence of the federal government in our lives, and jump-start our economy by lowering and refining our taxes.

Here is a person who was a successful businessman, saved the Olympics and was a Republican governor of the most liberal state in the Union, yet we want to know if he can connect. Looks like we have “IDOLized” the presidency, so we get what we ask for.

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  1. BlaineCGarver says:

    Obama was hired as the perfect demographic. Hopefully, he’ll be fired for being the perfect idiot.

  2. Theefrinker says:

    I swear I’ve seen this letter before…

  3. Pecksbadboy says:

    Dream on, until you get corporate money out of politics, it will never happen

  4. Pecksbadboy says:

    I believe the Olympic organizers were sued for kickbacks as well.

    The last election the GOP called Obama an elitist but he was not a son of a wealthy corporate tycoon.

    Romney = elitist

  5. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Elitist or just rich? Good for him, living the American dream, producing and not just sucking off society.

    He had made a payroll, produced a profit, managed and led.

    BHO gave speeches and hung out with radicals, producing nothing (well, they did feed the dirty Chicago political machine).

  6. truthbusterguy says:

    Ask yourself what will it look like in 2016 if this guy gets re-elected. Very scary!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6QOscKvUjU

  7. President Obama far outstrips anyone the GOP has put forth as a national savior. The national debt has gone up for a lot of reasons and most of them are legitimate and rational. The fact that the author does no know that says something about his intellectual capacity. Unemployment is 8.3% and coming down and will probably meet the normal level, as forecast several years ago, by 2017. Iran will not be allowed to obtain nukes according to what I have read. All the things you want cost money, so your request for lower taxes is denied.
    Romney’s only problem is that he is disconnected from reality. I could care less if he is touchy-feely.

  8. Way to parrot the party line cons!
    The getting in step for the right wing is coming alone, soon every con will be in love with mittens and claim they always were.
    They will have nothing other than the R to go on, no plan no real platform just the blind hate for the black man in the White Hose.
    They will fall in line, all of them, as they always do.
    It will do them no good, President Obama is a good President and he will win.
    Good always triumphs.

  9. Romney –
    destroyer of jobs,
    friend of those who are very rich,
    enemy of those who who are not.

  10. aislander says:

    An elitist is someone who believes HE can manage your life better than you can. That would be Obama…

    If Romney is what I believe him to be–and for the sake of the country, I dearly hope he is–he would like to return to the people the freedom to more fully manage our own lives.

  11. ‘Since when did connecting matter’ – in this country since about786.

    Aislander – as if the Rpbs never want to interfer in our lives.

  12. aislander says:

    Tell me, xring, in what way do we wish to tell you how to live your lives as individual human beings, other than to obey the basic laws?

  13. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Unemployment is 8.3% and coming down and will probably meet the normal level, as forecast several years ago, by 2017. Iran will not be allowed to obtain nukes according to what I have read.

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I feel better.

    Thanks Pub. I’m sure the unemployed will sleep well knowing they only have to wait until 2017 to get a job (which has an eery ring of truth about it if, God forbid, the unlikely happens and the campaigner-in-cheif is re-elected). And I’m sure, now, that Israel is dead wrong about that Iranian islamic bomb thingy.

  14. The 2017 estimate came from the OMB at least 4 years ago and maybe even before Obama became President. The recession was not his fault and the slow recovery is also not his fault.
    Obama will beat any one of the current republican candidates so you better get used to having him around for FOUR MORE YEARS. My, that does sound good.

  15. aislander says:

    As touchy as the lefties seem to be, Vox, the trends the polls are showing seem to be penetrating their shields. I heard that no president with numbers like these at this time of year has EVER been re-elected since polling began…

  16. alindasue says:

    aislander said, “I heard that no president with numbers like these at this time of year has EVER been re-elected since polling began…”

    What people hear depends more on what they are listening to and less on what is available to hear…

    President George W. Bush’s approval numbers at this point in his presidency were much lower, yet he managed to somehow be re-elected.

  17. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    “yup, Romney and Santorum both in a statistical dead heat with the campaigner-in-chief now, according to latest polling:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

    Doesn’t look good for the 0 ne.

    BTW, what were they smoking’ at PEW and Reuters? Those numbers just don’t make sense. Take them down to the average of the other 6 polls and 0bama’s numbers would be more realistic – i.e. silly. Even with them it’s a dead heat. Not where an incumbent wants to be right now – especially the creates president since ever.

    And we probably better not tell Pub about the latest New York Time/ CBS or Washington Post/ ABC polls – OUCH!

  18. aislander says:

    alindasue: I see numbers well above 50% for early ’04, although they did fall closer to election day. I wish I had been able to pay closer attention to what the analyst was saying (I was multitasking), but I’ll have to try to recall which pundit was talking and quote him exactly.

    Bush’s March 2004 rating was around 50%, while Obama’s–according to the CBS News poll–is at 41%–good news for the country, but bad for Obamaphiles…

  19. “I don’t care if Romney or anyone else can connect with me. I want someone who will lower our debt, preserve Social Security and Medicare, get rid of Obamacare, reduce the massive influence of the federal government in our lives, and jump-start our economy by lowering and refining our taxes.”

    This is the most nonsensical statement I think I have ever seen! Basically what this letter writer is saying I want lower debit, while taking in less money, and while not changing anything significant! Unless the writer wants to just completely do away with the DOD and all the Armed forces.

  20. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    President George W. Bush’s approval numbers at this point in his presidency were much lower

    Actually, President Bush’s RCP average approval rating on March 15, 2004 (the same point in his Presidency) was 49.8%.. In fact, his RCP average had not slipped below 48% at that point in his presidency. Obama’s RCP average was consistently below that number from January 2010 to January 2011, and again from June 2011 until now.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/archive/?poll_id=19

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

    Those would be new modern-day low numbers for approval ratings based on the first three years of a presidency. Only Truman, Ford, and Carter had worse averages at this point, and 0bama’s no Truman.

  21. Frankenchrist says:

    Romney will be the GOP nominee; that much is certain. However, Obama will bury him in a colossal electoral landslide. It’s going to be worse than LBJ burying Goldwater in ’64. It will be very interesting to see if the Republicans learn anything from their annihilation this November.

  22. “he would like to return to the people the freedom to more fully manage our own lives.”

    If you believe that I’ve got a deal for you on some bridges!

  23. “I heard that no president with numbers like these at this time of year has EVER been re-elected since polling began…”

    Your right wing polls are meaningless, haven’t you learned that by now?

    Even still, what makes you think your party has better numbers?

  24. Pretty pathetic that the best hope for the GOP at this point is for gas to keep rising and/or the EU to completely crash and burn.

    Obama as President is wrong on many levels – but Romney or Santorum are worse.

  25. Obama is the perfect example of how stupid people can be. A complete unknown, unqualified “community organizer” (I remember when he was an unknown, unqualified newly elected senator in Illinois and people couldnt figure out how THAT happened!)

    This guy was elected by a gaggle of fawning liberal clowns who picked him on nothing more than a high school popularity contest! The guy was the cool candidate, all their friends were voting for him, and he wasn’t Bush (who wasnt running anyway!!)

    As much as I wait for this one term wonder to disappear from the Oval Office, I cant really give him all the blame. He just managed to snag a cushy gig, with a good retirement package! I DO however blame the stupid public who hired this guy, and if that voting public doesn’t start waking up and taking the office of President seriously instead of treating it like an “american idol” contest, this country is headed straight for the ditch!

  26. Frankenchrist says:

    No-one voted for Obama because he was/is “cool.” They voted to keep an unqualified clueless idiot away from the vice-presidency.

  27. aislander says:

    They voted to keep an unqualified clueless idiot away from the vice-presidency.

    That obviously didn’t work…

  28. aislander says:

    …but nobody votes for or against vice president, so we got an “unqualified, clueless” guy in the lead role, too! USA! USA!

  29. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    bB, take a look at the RCP average for 0bama’s term so far. He has been below 50% approval for two-thirds of his term.

    You can’t blame that on the latest liberal meme; “gas prices are to blame”. Gas prices are just the current crisis, not the root cause of his increasing unpopularity. No, he’s done plenty of other things to ensure that.

    But it doesn’t help that his self-flaggelating energy policy is the joke of the world and, combined with a naive foreign policy, sure to hurt us more in the near future.

  30. Fibonacci says:

    Dcr
    No, the stupid ones are those that voted for Shrub for his second term. Anyone that thinks Romney cares about anything but the rich is ignorant. I just hop;e they keep plugging away at the really important stuff like contraceptives because it shows how clueless they are about what people care about.

    The economy was in free fall when Obama was elected. My god, he did not wave a magic wand and stop it, how horrible of him. And to think, he has had so much cooperation from congress. The party of NO is going to lose in November because there are too many people in the country that can actually think. I am not a big Obama fan, but the alternative is horrible. When the Republicans realize that the majority of the country are more towards the middle and not out there with the Tea Partiers then they might have a chance.

  31. The only connection I care about is with the U.S. Constitution. If the candidate looks like Boris Karloff, smells like Buffalo Bill, and has the charm of John Gotti, makes me no difference. What I want is a guy who believes the U.S. Constitution means what it says, says what it means and supports and defends same. After three-plus years of Yomama, we desperately need a return to Constitutional government–before there is no longer any such thing to return to.

  32. LornaDoone says:

    I want someone who will lower our debt, preserve Social Security and Medicare, get rid of Obamacare, reduce the massive influence of the federal government in our lives

    Interesting. Didn’t Romney invent “romneycare”, the pilot program for “obamacare”? Preserve Social Security and Medicare? Someone’s not paying attention. Reduce debt? Romney and Bain were known for increasing debt and bankrupting for profit. Influence of government? Ask a woman about who is telling her how to manage her health care.

    Hint – “Obamacare” ain’t happening yet.

  33. I apologize ahead of time if I touch on something that has already been said, I just found it very difficult to keep reading the same blarney over and over about Obama. A few facts:
    1. He inherited a HUGE mess, from republican administration
    2. You can’t stop a speeding train (the spiraling economy) on a dime
    3. Fixing a mess the size of our recession (that is global, not just national) doesn’t come over night.
    4. Things are turning around
    5. Romney made his money eliminating jobs and closing businesses
    6. Romney developed the blueprint for ‘Obamacare’ (and has been successful)
    7. All Republican aspirants want to legislate right into your bedrooms and doctors offices. How does this equate to ‘smaller government’
    8. The republicans want to destroy medicare/medicaid/social security
    9. We are out of Iraq, We are leaving Afganistan
    10. Bin Laden is gone
    11. The auto industry has come back in a big way, Romney wanted to let them go bankrupt.

  34. Aislander – how about we start with;
    Women’ health and reproduction issues;
    Telling Private insurance companies what can and cannot be covered;
    Forcing doctors to perform unnecessary procedures;
    Blocking workers rights to organize;
    Blocking equal access to the WEB;
    And the beat goes on.

    Vox;
    Many people disapprove of Obama for not pushing harder for liberal/progressive values and ideas.

    But don’t expect those people to vote for any right wing conseraclown the GOP money boys pick to run for president.

  35. “What I want is a guy who believes the U.S. Constitution means what it says, says what it means and supports and defends same.”

    So voting for a republican is OUT.
    They have trampled the Constitution for years!

  36. Fibonacci says:

    iBMaxine
    Yours is the best summation I have seen yet–good job.

  37. Kluwer, really? How so?

  38. LornaDoone says:

    Home run, Maxine!

  39. LornaDoone says:

    Trampling on the Constitution, example 1:

    “Feb 01, 2006 · Peace activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested Tuesday in the House gallery after refusing to cover up a T-shirt bearing an anti-war slogan”

  40. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Better yet, an example of Pelosi and crew using humans as props in their stunts.

    That cute little list looks like a reason why an independent would vote for Romney. BHO did not have the sack to enact Obamacare right away and wanted to delay the MASSIVE costs until the election. The costs just DOUBLED.

    Massive legislation in the middle of his jobless recovery. Even Keynes would object. Gas through the roof, drilling to Fed land at decade + low. All of the increased production he brags about IS ON PRIVATE LAND. This guy is a scam.

  41. “She was asked to cover it up. She did not,” said Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, U.S. Capitol Police spokeswoman.

    I think the Capitol Police enforce what they understand to be the law independently of direct orders from the White House.

    Your evidence of “trampling the Constitution” is underwhelming to put it mildly.

  42. “Telling Private insurance companies what can and cannot be covered;”

    Which Republican did that?

    I do recall the Obama Administration telling the Catholic church what it must cover. How that gets translated into your assertion requires a a feat of mental gymnastics comparable to the three minute mile, or, lacking that, lunacy.

  43. “in what way do we wish to tell you how to live your lives as individual human beings”

    You tell gay people that they can’t get married.

    You tell gay people that they aren’t allowed to serve openly in the military.

    You tell women that they can’t get access to contraception.

    You tell women that they can’t have abortions.

    You tell poor people that they can’t vote.

    There’s lots more, but those will do for a starter, Mr. Slander.

  44. “I do recall the Obama Administration telling the Catholic church what it must cover.”

    Then your memory is faulty, because they did no such thing. They told the insurance companies what had to be covered.

    Last time I checked, the Catholic Church is not the same thing as an insurance company.

  45. Velmak you really need a lesson on the 8 years of failed bush regime and how they used the Constitution as TP?
    Really?

  46. James, with your high expectations I suggest you relocate to Switzerland. There are no politicians, Democratic or Republican, who meets your requirements.

  47. “the same old Conservatives trying to make sense”

    And always failing.

  48. “You’re exactly right “kluwer”. Conservatism will always fail”

    Yes it will, thanks for admitting it.

  49. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    They told the insurance companies what had to be covered.

    Uhhh, yeah… after they first mandated that employers, including religiously affiliated employers, must include birth control in their health insurance plans.
    January 20, 2012

    The Obama administration on Friday announced that most employers will be required to cover contraception in their health insurance plans, including nonprofit employers who currently don’t cover birth control because of religious affiliations.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57362986-503544/hhs-gives-religious-groups-more-time-to-comply-with-birth-control-coverage-rule/?tag=cbsnewsMainColumnArea

    Whose memory is faulty here? If velmak’s wrong, you’re at least as wrong. It was only after two months of intense pressure that they finally compromised… sort of, by shoftoing the burden to insurance companies. Jury’s still out on that one.

  50. LornaDoone says:

    “velmak says:
    March 16, 2012 at 2:24 pm “She was asked to cover it up. She did not,” said Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, U.S. Capitol Police spokeswoman.
    I think the Capitol Police enforce what they understand to be the law independently of direct orders from the White House.
    Your evidence of “trampling the Constitution” is underwhelming to put it mildly.”

    Restriction of free speech is restriction of free speech, no matter how large or small.

    If a kid is told to “cover up that American flag tshirt”……

  51. aislander says:

    Well, xring, I see you posted list of generalities, none of which match things I as a conservative wish to do. Please be more specific, or show actions and their effects…

  52. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    AI, based on what x listed, I don’t think he knows what bus he’s on.

    Are you a closet conservative, x?

  53. Haaaa would you look at that! It seems my last post was deleted, yet they allow insults such as “are you still beating your wife?”

    That only means one thing….My comment must have been spot on and caused discomfort for the local liberaltics, and since they had no answer they had me deleted!

    Haaa! Hitler and Stalin used those same tactics!

  54. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Hey Dale, that question was not intended as an insult. ehill had presented me with a series of loaded questions in his previous post. The question in question (“Are you still beating your wife?”) is a textbook example of a loaded question. I simply threw it back at him to let him know I’m not playing his silly little game.

    I didn’t see your post, but I can verify that someone in the very near thread stream has been very heavy on the “flag” button lately. And your reasoning on the matter is quite plausible.

  55. Vox..My point exactly. Its apparently not allowed to offer an opinion that differs from the liberal left in this screwy place.

    You post something THEY dont like, or are not comfortable hearing, OR most likely have no answer for they just hit the “flag” and censor you. Reminds me of little kids who dont get the answer they want, so they put fingers in their ears and scream! Haa!

    Typical childish, liberal (nazi) maneuver.

  56. The funny thing is that I’d actually consider voting for Romney. But the words and actions of some of his supporters in here reminds me of something that Ghandi said “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.”

  57. “You post something THEY dont like, or are not comfortable hearing, OR most likely have no answer for they just hit the “flag” and censor you.”

    We welcome comments. Please keep them civil, short and to the point. ALL CAPS, spam, obscene, profane, abusive and off topic comments will be deleted. Repeat offenders will be blocked. Thanks for taking part and abiding by these simple rules.

  58. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    The funny thing is that I’d actually consider voting for Romney.

    Time for a new truth-o-meter, that one just blew up the old one.

  59. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.”

    You are aware that is a popular leftist bumper sticker, but has never been properly sourced to Ghandi.

    Of course, if you’d care to do some research…

  60. “Time for a new truth-o-meter, that one just blew up the old one.

    So now you think you can read minds. Wow.

  61. I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. The materialism of affluent Christian countries appears to contradict the claims of Jesus Christ that says it’s not possible to worship both Mammon and God at the same time.

    * As quoted by William Rees-Mogg in The Times [London] (4 April 2005) {not found}. Gandhi here makes reference to a statement of Jesus: “No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.” (Luke 16:13); also partly quoted in Christianity in the Crosshairs : Real Life Solutions

    Discovered in the Line of Fire (2004) by Bill Wilson I have found no authoritative source for Gandhi saying this. The actual quote is attributed to Bara Dada, “Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you Christians — you are not like him.” Source – Jones, E. Stanley. The Christ of the Indian Road, New York: The Abingdon Press,1925. (Page 114)

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi

    However, it is indisputable that he wrote this:
    About this time, I heard of a well known Hindu having been converted to Christianity. It was the talk of the town that, when he was baptized, he had to eat beef and drink liquor, that he also had to change his clothes, and that thenceforth he began to go about in European costume including a hat. These things got on my nerves. Surely, thought I, a religion that compelled one to eat beef, drink liquor, and change one’s own clothes did not deserve the name. I also heard that the new convert had already begun abusing the religion of his ancestors, their customs and their country. All these things created in me a dislike for Christianity.

    * Part I, Chapter 10, Glimpses of Religion

    And this:
    * Religions are different roads converging to the same point. What does it matter that we take different road, so long as we reach the same goal. Wherein is the cause for quarreling?
    o Speaking of the conflict between Muslims and Hindus, in Hind Swaraj, Or Indian Home Rule (1946), p. 36

  62. “You are aware that is a popular leftist bumper sticker, but has never been properly sourced to Ghandi.”

    Guess I should use smaller words, because the point went over your head. So allow me to spell it out for you. Try to follow along.

    I’m an independent voter. I’ve only once the party line once (1968, for Republicans). I used to vote about 80% for Republicans, and about 20% for Democrats, but as the GOP moved farther and farther to the right, I felt like they’d left me behind. When the GOP arrived at the point where they are now trying to tear down things that they themselves proposed, I have a hard time finding any GOP candidate I could take seriously.

    My first political hero was Dan Evans.

    I was tempted to vote for McCain in 2008 because he had more experience, but he completely undercut that advantage by nominating Palin. Santorum and Gingrich are too extreme for me, and I suspect for 80% of the country.

    So the point is that although I could see myself voting for Romney (as the only sane GOP candidate), I can’t stand the behavior of some of his supporters in here. Including you. Attacking me is doing a great job of convincing me to vote for Romney.

  63. “I’ve only once…” in paragraph 2 should read “I’ve only voted once..”

  64. LornaDoone says:

    Dan Evans, Slade Gorton, John Spellman, Sam Reed. All good men.

  65. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    bB, that is a very interesting quote. I may not be a very good Christian, but I was raised in the church. And, with the exception of strict Adventists (who are vegetarian), and Mormons (who do not use alcohol) I’m not aware of any dietary requirements in Christianity. Nor, with a few exceptions (Mormons, plain-dress religions, etc), is dress mandated by most Christian sects. I wonder if this isn’t an example of the revered Ghandi doing a bit of stereotyping?

    Of course, things like full-text and context might make a difference, as would hearsay and the period of time in which he was quoted.

  66. LornaDoone says:

    “I didn’t see your post, but I can verify that someone in the very near thread stream has been very heavy on the “flag” button lately.”

    This amuses me for a few reasons, not the least of which is lack of self responsibility.

    It is my understanding that the “flag” button is a reader complaint mechanism and strictly advises the moderator of a concern. The actual deletion is done by the moderator, not the reader. Thus the offensive material must have been a TOS or policy violation.

    Maybe those that can verify will contribute more data on this subject.

    Or could Chicken Little be the cause?

  67. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Or could Chicken Little be the cause?

    Only Foxy Loxy would know.

    This amuses me for a few reasons, not the least of which is lack of self responsibility.

    LOL, speaking of fairy tales.

  68. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    BTW, the post I made previous to the one at 10:21 was deleted. Guess I’m not going to be allowed to respond to blatant hypocrisy.

  69. vox – the thread previous to this one has been closed to comment – I guess the weekend moderator doesn’t want people to talk about Limbaugh, same thing happened last weekend.

    I read Gandhi’s quote, with his use of the words “I heard” to indicate the scuttlebutt that he was hearing from the townspeople.

    From Mark Twain:

    There has been only one Christian. They caught him and crucified him–early.
    – Notebook, 1898

    If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be–a Christian.
    – Mark Twain’s Notebook

    Christianity will doubtless still survive in the earth ten centuries hence–stuffed and in a museum.
    – Notebook, 1898

    The so-called Christian nations are the most enlightened and progressive…but in spite of their religion, not because of it. The Church has opposed every innovation and discovery from the day of Galileo down to our own time, when the use of anesthetic in childbirth was regarded as a sin because it avoided the biblical curse pronounced against Eve. And every step in astronomy and geology ever taken has been opposed by bigotry and superstition. The Greeks surpassed us in artistic culture and in architecture five hundred years before Christian religion was born.
    – Mark Twain, a Biography

    I bring you the stately matron named Christendom, returning bedraggled, besmirched, and dishonored, from pirate raids in Kiaochow, Manchuria, South Africa, and the Philipines, with her soul full of meanness, her pocket full of boodle, and her mouth full of pious hypocrisies. Give her soap and towel, but hide the looking glass.
    – “A Salutation from the 19th to the 20th Century,” December 31, 1900

    The Church has opposed every innovation and discovery from the day of Galileo down to our own time, when the use of anesthetics in childbirth was regarded as a sin because it avoided the biblical curse pronounced against Eve.
    – Mark Twain, a Biography

    This is a Christian country. Why, so is hell. Inasmuch as “Strait is the way and narrow is the gate, and few-few-are they that enter in thereat” has had the natural effect of making hell the only really prominent Christian community in any of the worlds; but we don’t brag of this and certainly it is not proper to brag and boast that America is a Christian country when we all know that certainly five-sixths of our population could not enter in at the narrow gate.
    – Mark Twain in Eruption

    I found out that I was a Christian for revenue only and I could not bear the thought of that, it was so ignoble.
    – Mark Twain in Eruption

  70. hansgruber says:

    Actually, since Obama became President, the national debt has increased $4.938 Trillion, surpassing Bush 43 by $49 Billion!

  71. aislander says:

    Yeah, Vox, it seems a FEW of my posts have been “disappeared,” as well. Looks like the speech police have expanded their view of “inappropriate…”

    I’m pretty sure that, if I had done the verbal equivalent of burning the flag, THAT post would have gone unmolested…

  72. aislander says:

    Yeah, beerBoy, Mark Twain was a bitter, bitter man. Too.

  73. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    bB, the post was in this thread.

    And posts that get deleted always seem to be those written in response to attacks from someone claiming th.e “high ground” – morally speaking, of course.

    Oh well, life’s too short…

  74. “Dan Evans, Slade Gorton, John Spellman, Sam Reed. All good men.”

    Agreed. I voted for all of them.

  75. aislander says:

    Hmmm. Old enough to have voted for Dan Evans and yet retains that idealism of youth. Must be well over forty, though. Maybe fifty…

    Proof that Winnie was correct…

  76. Mark Twain was a bitter, bitter man. Too.

    Many astute observers of humankind do tend to get that way….

  77. aislander says:

    Ronald Reagan said his greatest regret was in not being able to do more to reduce abortion.

    I wonder if Dan Evans’ greatest regret is Evergreen State College…

  78. aislander says:

    “Many astute observers of humankind do tend to get that way…”

    We usually find what we’re looking for, beerBoy.

  79. Speaking of abortion….I bet a lot of those people who think abortion is just fine and dandy are pretty dang happy their mommies didn’t think so!

    (Just a test post to see how long THAT stays up!)

    :D

  80. Aislander – do your own research and you will find that each item listed is supported by the Republicon politicians.

    Vox – nothing to say again so resort to name calling.

    Vox & Dcr – I have never seen a weekend post deleted before Monday when the net nanny comes to work.

    Hans – get off you dead horse – a fair chuck of increase was due to putting Bush’s hidden budget on the public debt.

    Aislander – Twain was a enlightened and accurate observer of American Culture.

  81. Understandable that Reagan would feel that way – in 1981 the abortion rate was 6.87/1000 the highest ever recorded in the US (since they became recorded in 1960) by 1989 they had inched down to 6.35/1000.

    In 2008 (the last year recorded in the chart I accessed) it was down to 3.99/1000.

  82. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    x, maybe you could give me an example of my supposed “name calling”. Otherwise you should stop parroting th.e “high ground”.

    And though you probably have more experience at deleted posts, I can assure you many of my comments – especially responses made to attacks/ insults made by a certain stalking prominence – disappeared this weekend, unlike the offending comments. Pretty clear the mod was not going to allow that dialogue to continue, and I don’t disagree with that. But I do find the selective deletion pattern to be rather… curious.

    Guess an “other” commenter would be changing its name right about now. Not gonna’ do that.

  83. LornaDoone says:

    “Actually, since Obama became President, the national debt has increased $4.938 Trillion, surpassing Bush 43 by $49 Billion!”

    How much of that money was spent paying off Bush’s debt, since we KNOW that Bush was running seriously in the red.

  84. LornaDoone says:

    To the five additional comments:

    “Thus the offensive material must have been a TOS or policy violation.”

  85. LornaDoone says:

    I note, as on another thread, when a conservative doesn’t like what someone has to say, that makes that person “bitter” or “angry”

  86. LornaDoone says:

    aislander says:
    March 18, 2012 at 3:14 pm “Many astute observers of humankind do tend to get that way…”
    We usually find what we’re looking for, beerBoy.

    aislander says:
    March 18, 2012 at 12:42 pm Yeah, Vox, it seems a FEW of my posts have been “disappeared,” as well. Looks like the speech police have expanded their view of “inappropriate…”
    I’m pretty sure that, if I had done the verbal equivalent of burning the flag, THAT post would have gone unmolested…

    :)

  87. aislander says:

    So…you increase debt by paying off debt. THAT’S…logical–or not!

  88. aislander says:
  89. aislander says:

    That’s not how it works, xring–as I have recently and repeatedly been informed. You made the allegation: you support it…

  90. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Which is why we like everything you say, Larna, you’re always good for a laugh. And in case there are any fence-sitters out there who need optics for how the looney left operates, we’ll always have you… in one iteration or another.

  91. Voxie: “maybe you could give me an example of my supposed “name calling”

    Followed in Voxie’s very next post by this gem: “Larna, you’re always good for a laugh. And in case there are any fence-sitters out there who need optics for how the looney left operates, we’ll always have you… in one iteration or another.”

    ROFL – you can’t make this stuff up. It’s comedy gold, I tell you!

  92. “I wonder if Dan Evans’ greatest regret is Evergreen State College…

    No, it’s probably what’s happened to his party. I doubt if he’d be welcome today.

  93. aislander says:

    So…it is crafty! Thought so…

  94. I see Mr. AI Slander is still dehumanizing those with whom he disagrees.

  95. “So…it is crafty! Thought so… “

    “de·hu·man·ize/dēˈ(h)yo͞oməˌnīz/
    Verb: Deprive of positive human qualities”

  96. “the mod will not allow me to respond to the stalking prominence

    Paranoia is the belief that anyone who disagrees with you is “stalking” you. Seek immediate help.

  97. aislander says:

    It shouldn’t have used the adjective, “positive.” That makes this just too easy!

    I have yet to detect any…

  98. I see Mr. Slander is continuing to live down to his name.

  99. “It shouldn’t have used the adjective, “positive.” That makes this just too easy!”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

  100. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Paranoia
    noun /ˌparəˈnoiə/ 

    A mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality.

    Therefore, a more accurate ascription of the term in this case would be “the belief that anyone who disagrees with you is talking about/ to you”… which, we know was not the case here.

    I hear meds work. But, apparently, not always.

  101. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

  102. aislander says:

    Sorry, but I’m not the one who’s “depriving.” THAT is what we call a “pre-existing condition” and presumably would be covered by Obamacare…

  103. aislander says:

  104. aislander says:
  105. “I hear meds work. But, apparently, not always.”

    Oh? What “voices” are telling you that?

  106. “A mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution”

    … such as thinking that you’re being stalked.

  107. ???????? Oh my Gawd what is happening here!! “mental conditions characterized by”…being percolated in a vat of MJB while being turned into celery!

    Its finally happened, Ive been warped beyond recognition!

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