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DOONESBURY: Who is TNT afraid of?

Letter by Peggy S. Riecan, University Place on March 13, 2012 at 1:34 pm with 71 Comments »
March 13, 2012 2:10 pm

My goodness. Isn’t this 2012? It’s bad enough that some politicians want to make an issue of contraceptives and women’s health issues in this day and age. It’s bad enough that some politicians want to take women’s rights away from them, and turn the clock back. Now on top of it, Tacoma’s only newspaper also decides that it is time to turn the clock back.

You will make excuses for your decision to not print Doonesbury’s controversial panels, but please don’t. There is no excuse. Who are you afraid of?

Shame on you.

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  1. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Shame on you, turning a Church vs State issue into a women’s health issue. It is a bold lie.

    No one is asking/demanding/proposing that women’s access to BC is any different then it is today. It is free or very cheap.

    Shame on you, Peggy.

    And on the surface of it all, a bunch of adults whining over a comic strip is hilarious.

  2. LornaDoone says:

    Church versus state?

    Now “The Church” is behind the mandatory sonograms being made law by states?

    What will they think of next?

    Shame on those that are painfully ignorant of the subject. The comic strip has nothing to do with birth control.

  3. LornaDoone says:

    CT7’s comment is a perfect example of how conservatives have a pat answer that they are fed and they’ll use it, even if that answer has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

    Reminiscent of Palin’s debate technique.

  4. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Ah, and when progressives are out reason they pull in Sarah Palin to the debate. How does that pertain to this topic?

    Peggy obviously alluded to the recent debate over BC. She stated a lie, no one is denying or asking for the denile of women’s health care or BC.

    Given the recent poll numbers this is backfiring on the dems. The country at large knows it is junk. If a woman wants BC or an abortion, they are both readily available.

  5. Why are conservatives so afraid to face the truth about their policies?

  6. “Given the recent poll numbers this is backfiring on the dems

    I think once again you have twisted reality into what you only hope and wish were true.
    This is a GOP manufactured issue and it is not playing the way they had hoped. The numbers are decidedly against the GOP position, as is always the case.

  7. concernedtacoma7 says:

    “There’s no need to purposefully victimize women for the sake of using them as pawns in an election. That itself is an act of war on women.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/03/13/Obamas%20War%20On%20Women%20Backfires

    Enlighten yourselves beyond huffpost.

  8. LornaDoone says:

    “Ah, and when progressives are out reason they pull in Sarah Palin to the debate. How does that pertain to this topic?”

    OK. I’ll copy and paste it and see if you can get it the second time around. Maybe I’ll highlight for emphasis:

    CT7′s comment is a perfect example of how conservatives have a pat answer that they are fed and they’ll use it, even if that answer has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

    Reminiscent of Palin’s debate technique.

    Now if you think mentioning Palin is an insult, well….then you know that Palin, when faced with a serious subject, was taught to default to a certain statement, no matter how far off subject it is.

    Try reading the original letter for context. There is much more being said than the words “birth control” and “comic strip”.

  9. LornaDoone says:

    Something tells me that CT7, if in a health care convervation where the word “profalatic” was used, would holler “church and state”, not realizing that ibuprofen is used as a profalactic for inflamation.

  10. LornaDoone says:

    “Over all, 63 percent of Americans said they supported the new federal requirement that private health insurance plans cover the cost of birth control, according to the survey of 1,519 Americans, conducted from Feb. 13 to Feb. 19 for the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

    While 8 in 10 Democrats said they supported requiring birth control coverage, only 4 in 10 Republicans did. Six in 10 people calling themselves independents voiced approval. Many Americans, in the survey and in independent interviews, expressed impatience with the focus on women’s reproductive issues in an era of economic distress.” – NY TIMES

    Makes you wonder where they get their information

  11. ct7 has unwittedly (or is it dimwittedly?) revealed that the Texas laws require women who want an abortion to undergo an unnecessary medical procedure that includes penetration of the vagina is about RELIGION but, he has it wrong, it is about protecting citizens from the power of religion in the state.

  12. sandblower says:

    Concerned is still confused. It is a church dictating policy for what is a State issue. And that issue is women’s health.
    Concerned should be confused no longer.

  13. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Ignoring the fake war on women for now, here is a nice bit of proof that liberals do not want to hear other people’s viewpoints more than any other group.

    http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2012/Social-networking-and-politics/Main-findings/Social-networking-sites-and-politics.aspx

  14. “Ignoring the fake war on women for now, here is a nice bit of proof that liberals do not want to hear other people’s viewpoints more than any other group.”

    When you know you’re beaten, try to change the subject.

  15. The best way to become enlighten oneself is to avoid anything by Breibart and Limbaugh.

  16. LornaDoone says:

    I can only hope that CT7 and sumyungboi can meet the operating end of a colonoscopy that they don’t want and their doctor says they don’t need.

  17. LornaDoone says:

    Brietbart isn’t saying much anymore.

    A Christian might claim that God was listening.

    Someone explain to our resident wrongwinger that this isn’t a social networking site.

  18. bobcat1a says:

    Don’t worry Lorna, CT7 and some young boy are just whistling past the graveyard. It’s their version of Piggy’s “marxist socialist,” fingers in ears, lalalalalala.

  19. LornaDoone says:

    Oh, Dana Loesch!

    She is the one that, when referring to the law that Virginia was trying to pass, requiring a vaginal probe untrasound, said “That’s the big thing that progressives are trying to say, that it’s rape and so on and so forth. And in fact, this big battle that I’ve, uh, totally won with Keith Olbermann by the way, like, not only won once but twice and three times… uh, there were individuals saying, [high voice] “Oh what about the Virginia rape? The rapes that, the forced rapes of women who are pregnant?” What!?”

    Loesch went on another time to say “why would they oppose a vaginal insert when that is what got them to the exam in the first place?”

  20. sandblower says:

    I am concerned that too many are not able to reason using the rules logic prescribes. We are all concerned that some people did not get the education they needed to function in a modern, critically thinking world. We are concerned about a lot of things, but look at them rationally and discard those items that fail the reason test. Arguing metaphysically is a total and complete waste of time, because it is impossible before it even begins.

  21. sandblower says:

    I read Dana was into something. That would explain a lot if it is true. Does anyone have details?

  22. LornaDoone says:

    from angryblacklady.com:

    Dana Loesch, who is valiantly trying (and failing) to carry Breitbart’s torch, has done some digging into Sandra Fluke’s personal life because of course she has.

    Loesch, after discovering that Fluke’s boyfriend is the son of an “entrenched Democrat,” and that Fluke and her boyfriend are currently on vacation in California, concludes that Fluke’s boyfriend should be paying for Fluke’s contraception. After all, it’s unfathomable that Fluke can’t fund her own sluttiness when she has a “Democrat” boyfriend and enough money to make the harrowing journey from one coast to the other.

    Yes, really. Dana Loesch is that stupid.

  23. sumyungboi says:

    “After all, it’s unfathomable that Fluke can’t fund her own sluttiness ..”

    More like a foul mouthed angry black jerk, but hey, read whatever far left racist hatred you want.

  24. LornaDoone says:

    Yeah, the irony grew legs and jumped over the head of those who thought Rush was just being funny with calling a woman a “slut”.

    The ABL wasted perfectly good sarcasm on a closed mind.

  25. LornaDoone says:

    Note that the comment totally avoids Loesch’s involvement. DIVERSION ALERT.

    Loesch’s other comments are enough to fill “far right bigotry filled hatred”

  26. CT7 is either living in a dream word or just repeating the lie to further his/her/it’s personal prejudices. Birth control is only cheap or free if you have insurance or qualify for free BC at those clinics the Religious Right is trying so hard to put out of business. For those of us rapidly being reduced from middle class to working poor status, without insurance, we won’t be able to afford it anymore.

    This constant attempt by the so called ‘religious’ in this country is nothing but a thinly veiled attempt to force their beliefs on everyone, just as the Taliban and other extremists are doing in the Middle East. It’s disgusting and totally unAmerican. Those of you that think you have that right? This country was founded just to get away from people like YOU.

  27. concernedtacoma7 says:

    This country was founded on religious freedom (freedom to pray to whoever you want to) and individual responsibility. The land of the free did not mean ‘the land of the free stuff’.

    Who here knows a woman struggling to afford BC? No one. This is a made up issue to distract the voter from BHO and his hundreds of scandals, failed recovery, and huge debt. You want to make BC more affordable? Fix the economy and give everyone greater buying power. Minorities and the poor have been hurt the most by progressive fiscal policy, despite all the bought votes.

    Look at the attacks, you progressives are obviously desperate.

  28. Frankenchrist says:

    Conservatives lay awake at night, brooding over the possibility that someone somewhere is having sex for the sheer fun of it.

    Conservatives want the government in your bedroom, people.

  29. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Not that I speak for all conservatives, but what keeps me at up at night is too much caffeine and the thought that my tax dollars might be paying for someone’s recreation.

    Liberals want someone else’s money people. Eventually you run out of ‘free’ stuff.

  30. dlockner says:

    The letter writers subject was about the decision of the TNT to censure Doonesbury. I completely agree with her position that it was wrong in this day and age to do so. She did not express any other position or any of the other opinions given by her letters respondents, many of which were uncivil and in the nature of a personal attack. Writers like concernedtacoma7 and others should be ashamed but probably are not as after reading the body of their letters since they began posting, i can say that their pattern is to attack and harrass with the goal of eliciting an emotional response. They write inflammatory, extraneous, and off topic comments, and add nothing to the thread except their personal need to inject bile and negativity. They must hate themselves so much they have hate left over for others.

  31. Spiderweb says:

    “thought that my tax dollars might be paying for someone’s recreation.”

    No wonder you’re so angry, maybe if you quit trying to control others you’d be happier and sleep better.

  32. Again – for the slow readers who seemingly can’t comprehend comic strips – the Doonesbury strips in question are not about contraceptives, rather, they are about the Texas law that requires ultrasounds of the “baby” shown to any woman who wants a legal abortion. While the law doesn’t, like the defeated Virginia bill, explicitly state that the ultrasound be conducted through the vagina, that is the only procedure that will produce the kind of ultrasounds required by the law.

  33. sumyungboi says:

    Then why do you care, beerboy? You obviously had a chance to read it, as did everyone else here that’s having a joyful time mocking their political adversaries in typical Alinsky fashion.

    Far leftist’s disdain toward the TNT’s decision comes not from the fact that they didn’t run the cartoon, you all saw it anyway, but from the fact that people who otherwise didn’t know or have an opinion weren’t subject to progressive propaganda disguised as satire that you feel should be thrust in their face. All the while whining like little children to boycott Limbaugh and have him yanked from the airwaves.

  34. typical Alinsky fashion.

    What do you know about Saul Alinsky?

    You are just like 3rdpig who believes that labeling everything “socialist/marxist” is some sort of magical incantation that will effectively demonize everything/everyone that he disagrees with. But you use “Alinsky” as your magical demonizing word.

    The only person I see whining like a little child is you because I, correctly, pointed out that your posts were not related to the the content of the letter or the content of the comic strip in question.

  35. btw – not meaning to rub it in your face but you seem to have not comprehended my posts as you claim that I have taken a stance about the TNT’s decision to not run the comic strip on the comics page – which I haven’t. I also have made no statements supporting a boycott or banning of Limbaugh (I have, however, posted a quote of a story noting the shedding of advertisers that led to dead air on his radio show).

    Reading comprehension….try it sometime.

  36. sumyungboi says:

    BB: “What do you know about Saul Alinsky?”

    More than the average person, less than most leftists. Enough to know that he considered people of other political philosophy “the enemy”, that he taught “ridicule” as a powerful tactic, (see leftist comments above) and that Obama taught Alinsky tactics while acting as a contract adviser for ACORN.

    BB: “Reading comprehension….try it sometime.”

    Yes, do.

    me: “Far leftist’s disdain toward the TNT’s decision comes not from the fact that they didn’t run the cartoon, you all saw it anyway ..”

    My object of my comment had shifted to “far leftists”. You’re not important, beerboy, but the fact that I seem to have struck a nerve there is telling, nonetheless.

  37. “Liberals want someone else’s money people.”

    When you’re really sure that you can’t refute the message, try again to change the subject.

  38. “in typical Alinsky fashion”

    Nice use of the “guilt by association” logical fallacy.

  39. LornaDoone says:

    “Obama taught Alinsky tactics while acting as a contract adviser for ACORN”

    Was that when he was a Muslim and before the State of Hawaii faked his birth certificate?

    (giggle)

  40. sumyungboi says:

    lorna: “DIVERSION ALERT.”

    lorna: “Was that when he was a Muslim and before the State of Hawaii faked his birth certificate?”

    Nice.

  41. LornaDoone says:

    “In this book we are concerned with how to create mass organizations to seize power and give it to the people; to realize the democratic dream of equality, justice, peace…. “Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.’ This means revolution.”Rules for Radicals

    Kind of sounds like the Tea Party, doesn’t it?

  42. LornaDoone says:

    Sarcasm wasted again.

    But, let’s avoid sarcasm and get right to the point. Obama’s alleged “Alinsky Academy” had nothing to do with ACORN.

    The Woods Fund, a nonprofit on which Obama served as paid director from 1999 to December 2002, provided startup funding and later capital to the Midwest Academy…. Obama sat on the Woods Fund board alongside William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground domestic terrorist organization…. ‘Midwest describes itself as ‘one of the nation’s oldest and best-known schools for community organizations, citizen organizations and individuals committed to progressive social change.’… Midwest teaches Alinsky tactics of community organizing.”

    Now, whatever we do, we must stop that community organizing stuff. Jesus of Nazareth, well known community organizer, was a Communist.

    Sorry, the sarcasm button keep slipping

  43. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    after reading the body of their letters since they began posting, i can say that their pattern is to attack and harrass with the goal of eliciting an emotional response. They write inflammatory, extraneous, and off topic comments, and add nothing to the thread except their personal need to inject bile and negativity. They must hate themselves so much they have hate left over for others.

    In the entire thread above, I see only two commenters who are generally positioned right of center, politically speaking, yet this is the second thread in which I’ve seen you single out one of those two for attack. Excluding the aforementioned, with maybe two exceptions (yours being one), yours is a succinct and very accurate description of the tactics of every other commenter above. But the fact you only choose to criticize certain contributors who are obviously not in line with your way of political thinking, reduces the credibility of your complaints by about 70%, in this thread alone.

  44. LornaDoone says:

    Thanks for your assessment of the psychographics of the thread. Can we get back to the subject now?

  45. “But the fact you only choose to criticize certain contributors who are obviously not in line with your way of political thinking, reduces the credibility of your complaints by about 70%, in this thread alone.”

    And the fact that you do the same thing reduces yours by 100%.

  46. LornaDoone says:

    “thought that my tax dollars might be paying for someone’s recreation.”

    Women must swoon for the man that sees sexuality as “recreation”.

  47. sandblower says:

    For you, Vox: “Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success.” It happens both ways….”It is because arguments fail us when we come to deal with pure questions of value, as distinct from questions of fact, that we finally resort to mere abuse.”
    Telling people that their values are wrong is a useless exercise unless there are negative factual consequences of those values experienced by the individual practitioner. And even then it may not change anything.
    Obama is not a socialist, communist or anything else even close, but piggie will never change his or her tune because there are no negative consequences when one hides behind an anonymous internet moniker. I wish I could find someone on the left here whose rants and raves equals piggie’s. I would use them as an example on the other side.

  48. LornaDoone says:

    I’m not missing out, woman I know that sexuality is the most intimate connection between two people. Those that recognize it as recreation miss the true closeness that two people can feel.

  49. “This is a made up issue to distract the voter from BHO and his hundreds of scandals, failed recovery, and huge debt”

    Beggs the question as to why the republicans made up the issue in the first place then doesn’t it?

    I would ask you to back up your list of ‘offenses’ you attribute to the President but I know you won’t.

  50. LornaDoone says:

    kluwer – The Democrats made Rush Limbaugh stick his foot in his mouth and continually choke himself for three days with it.

    This is all part of the plan that John Kerry put together back in 1968 by getting the US Navy to award him medals that he didn’t deserve, in order that he could run for president in 2004.

    Additionally Saul Alinsky, disguised as Barack Obama has taken over the Republican Party by using the vulcan mind meld that he learned by watching repeticious reruns of Star Trek.

  51. letsworkitout says:

    Wow, I find this very funny. Multiple letters to the editor because of a comic strip? Dear Lord, people really need to prioritize things.

  52. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Lowercase sand, I don’t disagree entirely with your comment at 10:07 AM. Except for the part where you say:

    I wish I could find someone on the left here whose rants and raves equals piggie’s. I would use them as an example on the other side.

    LOL, I’d have to say try a little harder.

  53. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Wow, I find this very funny. Multiple letters to the editor because of a comic strip? Dear Lord, people really need to prioritize things.

    The so-called “war on women” myth is going down as a Democrat strategy, right along with 0bama’s latest polling numbers.

    … he lost some support among women over the past month, even as the debate raged over birth control insurance coverage.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/us/politics/obama-approval-rating-down-in-new-york-times-cbs-poll.html?_r=1

    Doonsbury doom is all they have to talk about.

  54. BlaineCGarver says:

    Jebus, this year in politics is really going to suck….

  55. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Kluwer- The list of Obama scandals has already been posted. But since you missed it, here you go…

    http://obamascandalslist.blogspot.com/

    Same guy did a list for Bush, in case you are looking for a partisan slant. BHO is beating him 2-1.

    LD- women must swoon for a guy like you that only views sex as a means to procreate. Maybe you have greater Catholic beliefs then you let on.

    You ask to get back on topic then post a sarcastic response to my post. For you the topic is ending debate and conversation.

    This liberal ‘cartoon’ does not belong in the ‘comics’ section due to an obvious and clear political bent. It is not sensored and still available, just a little further out of reach of kids.

    Good job left leaning TNT.

  56. CT7 – switch to decaf and take two big doses of reality before bedtime.
    BTW – ones man scandals is another man’s leadership.

    Sumy – ever hear of censorship – it is a fine old rightwing tradition completely at odds with the progressive way of thinking.
    BTW – I am one progressive that had never heard of Alinsky until he was brought up by the right – who seem to know and use his ideas much more than we progressives.

    Ehill – some confuse attacking a person’s opinions with attacking the person.

    Lorna – not just the most intimate connection but the connection that seals and maintains the pair-bond between couples.

    BGC – au contraire – this is proving to be a very interesting year. Just remember the old Irish curse – May you live in interesting times.

  57. “The so-called “war on women” myth is going down as a Democrat strategy, right along with 0bama’s latest polling numbers”

    Of course reality is totally different than your made up opinion.

  58. sumyungboi says:

    xring: “Sumy – ever hear of censorship – it is a fine old rightwing tradition completely at odds with the progressive way of thinking.”

    Don’t even suggest that the TNT is a right wing publication, as coffee might go blowing out of my nose!

    I also noticed the left’s glee that some of Limbaugh’s sponsers have bailed. Certainly up to them to react to market pressure from the far left, but don’t start preaching to me about progressive tolerance, because you’re completely disingenuous and transparent. Those on the left are very tolerant .. as long as you agree with them.

    Also, where’s all the right wingers phoning and emailing MSNBC or Current TV talking of boycotting advertisers? Isn’t happening, bro.

  59. “The list of Obama scandals has already been posted. But since you missed it, here you go…”

    Another case of being out of touch with reality, amazing how you cons get this far out.

  60. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Kluw- nice response.

    As to Rush and his sponsors, have any of you read his response to this? They were not direct sponsors of his show, but companies that advertise with local affiliates. If they do not advertise it does not affect him at the least. There are thousands of companies (I believe he took a swag and said 16k) that advertise on local stations throughout his broadcast. 30-40 asking to be moved to a different time slot is not significant. Joke is on the progressives.

  61. ct7 – last time I looked it was 98….and, when you have dead air where ads are supposed to be, it is significant.

    he dead airtime was spread out over four instances during the three-hour broadcast. WABC 770 AM in New York was silent for two and a half minutes before the show, save for one ad, then again near the end of the show’s first hour. Hours two and three each contained one minute of silence each, reports Think Progress.

    A station representative did not specify whether the silence was due to lost advertisers or a technical problem.

    Of the 86 ads that were aired, 77 were unpaid public service announcements from the Ad Council, and seven were from sponsors which were in the process of removing support from the show. Only two ads were from sponsors which have not indicated they would leave, reports Media Matters.

  62. Sumy,
    Not happening at MSNBC:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0511/MSNBC_suspends_Schultz_for_calling_Ingraham_a_slut.html

    CT7 – as of last night it was over 140.

    Local Stations need to advertise – no advertisers = no money and goodbye old show, hello new show.

    Syndicated shows have pre-programmed breaks (hard breaks) to allow local stations to run advertisement. No local advertisement = dead air, which Rush is hearing a lot of lately.

  63. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Of course reality is totally different than your made up opinion.

    Ahhhh, what it is that hilly loves to spout… oh yeah:

    “If you can’t refute the message, attack the messenger” – somthin’ really original and ironic like that.

    Well, klu, if you’d bothered to follow the link to the latest New York Times/ CBS poll I provided, you may have noticed that they have him down in the “support from women” category by 12% over last month and not coincidentally, his approval ratings are down 9% – to just 41% – over the same period.

    Don’t blame me, klu, it’s your poll. I mean, the chest pumping of a month ago, from the usual suspects here, about 0bama’s poll numbers in the very same poll was bad enough. Now you say I made this all up, LOL.

    “Contrariwise, if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s logic.”
    Lewis Carroll.

    More bad news on the phony “war” from the latest polling by the Washington Post/ ABC poll:

    Should companies and organizations be allowed to opt-out of BC coverage:
    Aggregate: 51% Y – 40% N
    Women: 46% Y – 44% N
    When term “religiously affiliated” is included: 57% Y – 36% N

    BTW, as usual, both samplings consisted of more Democrats than Republicans – 4% more in the case of WAPo/ ABC alone.

    Yet they still couldn’t skew the truth… not this time anyway.
    Same query to women only: 53% Y – 38% N

    Then there are the disapprovals:
    Job Performance: 50% Disapprove
    Energy: 65% Disapprove
    Deficit: 62% Disapprove
    Economy: 59% Disapprove
    Iran: 52% Disapprove

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_031012.html

  64. sumyungboi says:

    xring, you seem to be right on top of how many advertisers have left Limbaugh. If “censorship” is so abhorrent to you as a progressive, as you’ve indicated above during your rant about right wingers, maybe you should start a movement advocating tolerance of the guy. :)

  65. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Liberal definition of free speech:

    “Don’t censor you, don’t censor me, censor that conservative behind the tree.”

  66. “The list of Obama scandals…”

    … is not relevant to this subject. Fail. Try again.

  67. Conservative definition of free speech: I can say whatever I want without ever having to pay any consequences. If you disagree, you’re unpatriotic.

  68. The wrong wing is confused again, I see. This time they’re confusing “free speech” with “speech without consequences”. The two aren’t the same. Here are a couple of examples:

    1. If you work taking orders at McDonalds, you’re perfectly free to tell your customers that you think the food is better at some other fast-food place, and recommend that they go there. However, you should be prepared to pay the consequence of exercising your freedom by losing your job.

    2. Don Imus certainly had the “freedom of speech” to call that women’s sports team “nappy-headed hoes”. But because his action reflected badly on his employers, they made him suffer the consequence of getting fired. Did Imus lose his freedom of speech? Nope. He can still call women whatever he wants. But he’s no longer being paid to do so by the same employer.

    3. Rush Limbo certainly had the “freedom of speech” to call a college woman a “slut” and a “prostitute”, but now that advertisers are expressing their displeasure, he’s paying the consequences. Seems to me that some people in here just can’t deal with Limbo having to pay consequences, and are confusing those consequences with intolerance.

    As I said, the wrong wing is confused again.

  69. LornaDoone says:

    “that conservative behind the tree.”

    Begs for ridicule and jokes.

    I’ll pass, thanks

  70. LornaDoone says:

    Let’s clear the air on “Rush and his advertisers”.

    First of all, the initial advertisers that pulled out, were all national companies, who would purchase Rush in a single buy, as opposed to purchasing hundreds of local stations individually.

    As to regional and local advertisers, if Rush isn’t getting a piece of the pie, he is either stupid (which I doubt) or his company is selling his show to those stations, for the right to sell local advertising, or a combination of both. You’ll also find Limbaugh on small rural stations that are strictly national feed because the station employee two people (the owner and spouse) who turn on the juice and walk away, letting the cash register ring. The only local commercials they sell is for local news broadcasts, farm reports and a few high school sports events.

    Rush wouldn’t be running all those PSAs if not for dead air time.

    Gotta quit getting information from Drudge and Newsmax.

  71. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    I’d pass too, Larna – seems someone’s a bit heavy on the “flag” button.

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