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RAMPAGE: U.S. lacks credibility in condemning atrocities

Letter by Alfred K. LaMotte, Steilacoom on March 12, 2012 at 12:22 pm with 39 Comments »
March 12, 2012 2:10 pm

UPDATE: The vigil referred to in an earlier version of this letter has been canceled.

I grieve not only for the Afghan people, but for the broken families of the U.S. military community who live all around me.

The United States has lost all credibility to condemn the atrocities of the Assad regime in Syria, because our own soldiers commit acts of terrorism in Afghanistan. More and more of our men and women in uniform are driven to the breaking point by a foreign policy whose mission has drifted away from national defense, to arrogant imperialism, claiming the right to occupy and control other countries.

It is now time for our disengaged civilian population to rise up, not only in defense of Afghan families, but in defense of our own abused military family, and demand an immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan.

 

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  1. BlaineCGarver says:

    Almost a good letter…..An individual’s crime does not and should not reflect on an entire country. Assad’s genicide does reflect a national, systemic genocide. Your hate for your own country is in evidence again, Sir. Additionally, do you find it odd that it’s people like you who demand a military drawdown all the while bemoaning what a lack of resources and treasure does to the mission and the people trying their best to do it.

  2. LornaDoone says:

    “An individual’s crime does not and should not reflect on an entire country”

    And yet, the activites of a couple dozen on 9/11 have tarred and feathered anyone that practices Islam, including a President that doesn’t.

  3. concernedtacoma7 says:

    couple dozen that made it to our shores. Educate yourself on the big picture.

    Here is a start http://www.longwarjournal.org/

  4. Your years the US was as the most credible western power in the Middle East because we had no troops stationed there. Another thing lost and gone forever thanks to Bush.

    Bush lost Afghanistan and Iraq the second he decided to occupy and rebuild the countries.

  5. You are welcome to move to Afghanistan since the U.S. is so bad. A few bad troops don’t reflect the entire armed forces or their family members.

  6. Sonofwashington says:

    Of course a few bad troops don’t reflect the entire armed forces or their family members. But when you have repeated outrages (burning of the Korans, and the most recent attack by the JBLM soldier) in a country that really doesn’t welcome you there, you have a tinder-box of an outraged population that will only see the US as a bullying intruder. Of course that is only heightened by the very loud and constant anti-Muslim rhetoric from our right-wing friends.

    We have a huge black eye, and I fear the anger and onslaught our troops are about to face. We are in a no-win situation and the sooner we get out the better.

  7. LornaDoone says:

    There is no requirment for special education to note the obvious bigotry directed at Islam after the attack of 9/11/01, that was done by a couple dozen terrorists.

    Those that need to buy into the hyperbole are truly looking for an excuse for the bigotry.

    Additionally, President Obama is not a Muslim as a large percentage of his opposition would like you to believe and the labeling is nothing more than taking advantage of the ignorance of those that buy into the bigotry.

  8. sandblower says:

    If anyone is surprised by the nasty stuff war brings, they have not thought about war very much. Nothing new is happening, has happened or will happen in this war or any other war in which we decide to participate.
    I am not making an excuse for anyone.

  9. LornaDoone says:

    “You are welcome to move to Afghanistan since the U.S. is so bad. A few bad troops don’t reflect the entire armed forces or their family members.”

    And you are welcome to move to whatever country (I think Iran is big on this) that will ignore when they do wrong and not try to change.

  10. pantomancer says:

    President Obama is in charge. He promised to close Gitmo. He promised to repeal the PATRIOT Act. He promised to get us out of Iraq and Afganistan. He failed to do so. He is waaay over his head.
    Hillary would be a much better choice.

  11. The ill effects of war on soldiers is tragic; who can deny it? But to leap to the conclusion that the U.S. has no credibility as a result of individual breakdowns and choices is puerile. Further, the 9/11 parallel is folly. Those responsible for 9/11 were part of a large, well-oiled anti-Western cohort bent on the destruction of an entire way of life.

  12. To suggest that the U.S. has lost credibility as a result of the actions of this man’s actions is folly. The effects of war are tragic, who can deny it? But this individual is soley responsible for giving vent to his rage. Further folly? A parallel between this and 9/11. A well-organized cohort of terrorists have been bent on undermining and destroying “the West” for decades. There simply is no parallel here.

  13. pantomancer says:

    Sumbody forgot to add the other terrorists into the equation. Odd.

  14. Mr. LaMotte, Take heart, Doc would have agreed with you.

  15. concernedtacoma7 says:

    LD_nos, the only one bringing up BHO and his religion is you. Nice deflect off the topic.

    As Commander in Chief, is he not responsible for all his troops do or not do? This has nothing to do with him as a man.

  16. Lorna I’m not bad-mouthing my country or the troops, why should I leave? I love it here unlike some writers/bloggers here……you included?

  17. LornaDoone says:

    “A well-organized cohort of terrorists have been bent on undermining and destroying “the West” for decades.”

    Funny how 54 memos talked about such a possibility, but the only time that this becomes a public statement is after 20 or so terrorists brought the country to its knees.

    Amazing how this was going on for “decades” and they pulled it off. Or maybe, this was just a great way to make an excuse for dropping the ball.

    Either way, my point being that ALL OF ISLAM was not responsible for it, yet, unlike Blaine’s statement that “An individual’s crime does not and should not reflect on an entire country”, Islam as a “nation” was blamed for the actions of less than two dozen.

    When the shoe is on the other foot, it never fits as well.

  18. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Amazing that you defend Islam while damming Christianity at every opportunity.

    There is a world outside our borders. Educate yourself on the greater threat and ongoing battle of good vs evil.

  19. madmike272 says:

    As usual, Fred continues his leftist diatribe and drivel.

  20. Pacman33 says:

    —– The Groveling Leftist:
    Anti-American Neurosis, Guilt and Self-Loathing (c)esc

    If I stare into the sun long enough I also see arrogant imperialism.

    It makes me hate myself.

  21. Recent stories out of Afghanistan include:
    1) Urination on the remains of the dead
    2) Destruction of the Koran in a manner considered disrespectful by Muslims
    3) Marines posing with an SS symbol
    4) A mass murder of civilians, including children.

    Ya gotta wonder:
    1) Where is the military discipline?
    2) Are there American military deliberately undermining the mission of diminishing the Taliban and strengthening the Karzai Administration?

  22. Three deployments to Iraq. On his fourth deployment he goes to Afghanistan. One report says he was brain damaged and has significant problems with his marriage. If that is not an indictment of the Army’s ability to screen the readiness of its troops, I don’t know what is.

    Add to that the reality that we are paying mercs……ummm…..contractors…to take on duties that were formerly the obligations of the military and you start to wonder just how great this all-volunteer army thing is working out – especially when we have been mired in the Middle East since at least Poppy Bush’s foray into Iraq, if not before.

  23. Lorna who’s blaming all the Muslims for 911? You are just concentrated on your agenda! I wad commenting on ONE writer, not all Muslims or Christians. Enjoy the snow today, make a snowman or something

  24. Spiderweb says:

    “hate for your own country”

    Really, Blame C. Garver? One can love one’s country without knee jerk support for the militarization that is happening to our foreign policy.
    Not everyone is a flag waving nationalist, and that is a GOOD thing.

    It’s okay, we know that conservatives get emotional too, despite the denials….

  25. alindasue says:

    sozo said, “The ill effects of war on soldiers is tragic; who can deny it? But to leap to the conclusion that the U.S. has no credibility as a result of individual breakdowns and choices is puerile.”

    The U.S. lost credibility and “the moral high ground” back in 2003 when our president decided to be impatient and go rouge against the UN and start a preemptive war against Iraq. The rest has just contributed to our loss of face.

  26. I concur that the army has some explaining to do, but I find it ludicrous to make broad toxic statements such as the one Mr. LaMotte has made here–statements that fuel the fires of anti-Americanism. We are an imperfect nation in an imperfect world. That is realilty. We are NOT the evil, warmongering, greedy b@stards that some would make us out to be, and I for one, am sick to death of such juvenile, contentious commentary about our country. I would love to have those of you who are so critical provide a list of countries that are superior to the U.S.

  27. LornaDoone says:

    “fuel the fires of anti-Americanism”

    We still haven’t grow up enough to be critical of ourselves.

    “Lorna who’s blaming all the Muslims for 911?”

    Romulan, I certainly hope you are speaking about something other than my example versus Blaine’s assertion.

  28. Your letter correctly describes the situation that we find ourselves in Afghanistan, Mr LaMotte, no matter how the Righties try to blow your thoughts out of proportion. We need to get out before things get worse as they are bound to get as time drags on. The Lone Ranger knew when it was time to leave. It’s silver bullet time! We got our man. It’s time to ride off into the sunset.

  29. pantomancer says:

    Who IS the captain of this ship?

  30. We are NOT the evil, warmongering, greedy b@stards that some would make us out to be

    I will not cut and paste the list of list of US military operations here as even one decade would be way too long for this format. Please go to the timeline on wikipedia and look at the immense number of military operations that the US has been involved in.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations

    You may be able to make a case that we are NOT “evil” (that kinda depends upon how one defines evil – especially when one considers unintended consequences of actions meant for the “good”), or “greedy” (but given that Americans are 5% of the world’s population yet we consume 24% of the world’s energy, that is a little harder case to make), or “bastards” (I definitely was born of two married parents, unlike a growing number of Americans today) but it is nearly impossible to make the case, based upon the huge numbers of military operations, that we are NOT “warmongering”.

  31. And, while Mr. Lamotte’s letter stated “…mission has drifted away from national defense, to arrogant imperialism, claiming the right to occupy and control other countries”, he did not claim that the US are “evil, warmongering, greedy b@stards”.

    When you quote “some” who say something you have written that is an argument through the creation of a strawman.

  32. LornaDoone says:

    “Who IS the captain of this ship?”

    If the defense of a football team gives up 100 points to the opposition, is it the quarterback’s fault that the offense only scored the average 35 points?

    Last I knew, there were plenty of Generals and other officers that would be the first to say they were running the military.

  33. SOZO how do you explain this watch the youtube if you can tell us how this is protecting our freedom, see what we have turned our young men into, that is if you can stand to watch it. The worst part is how they are laughing, our military, why didn’t anyone stop him? Question how often does this go on, you know what they say about abusers, it starts with animals. I do know there are honorable military there, but where and when does this stop.
    http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DqE9ArzjnkeY

  34. Implicit vs. explicit bBoy. But think what you will. I’m too weary to expend any energy here today.

  35. So that was an implicit strawman?

  36. BlaineCGarver says:

    LD, Islam is not a country. It’s a worldwide religion (though, I prefer the term cult) that is dedicated to erasing all Jews, and destroying the western culture. The Koran is very clear on this. I do not believe that all Muslims subscribe to this, but it’s there for the muslim population to adhear to (or not). The West is leary of Islam, and vice-versa…is there any doubt of that? I won’t be the first to lower my guard, and it seems that most of the non-Muslim world agrees with me.

  37. ’s a worldwide religion (though, I prefer the term cult) that is dedicated to erasing all Jews, and destroying the western culture. The Koran is very clear on this

    Then you should have no problem indicating exactly which Suras call for the erasing of all Jews (have people been writing upon them?) and destroying Western Culture (which, according to your cohorts is what Liberals who don’t follow the Bible are doing)

    Some quotes:
    “Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians — whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve” (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

    “…and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant” (5:82).

    “O you who believe! Be helpers of God — as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, ‘Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?’ Said the disciples, ‘We are God’s helpers!’ Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed” (61:14).

  38. I suggest you re-read the following before suggesting that the Koran somehow is more violent than the Bible:

    Exodus 22:20
    Deuteronomy 13:6-10
    2 Chronicles 15:12-13
    Deuteronomy 13:13-19
    Deuteronomy 13:7-12
    Deuteronomy 17:2-5
    Numbers 25:1-9

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