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RELIGION: Not all Presbyterians are unhappy

Letter by Rev. Dave Brown, Tacoma on Feb. 28, 2012 at 11:45 am with 13 Comments »
February 28, 2012 11:52 am

Re: “Dividing point” (TNT, 2-26).

When referring to Presbyterians, the article about the division in Christian denominations around the ordination of gay and lesbian persons focused exclusively on Tacoma-area Presbyterian churches that oppose the more inclusive ordination standards and are leaving the denomination.

Several Presbyterian churches in Tacoma, including the one I serve, applaud the change which allows the ordination of GLBTQ folks called by God to ministry. Indeed, Immanuel Presbyterian Church has experienced significant numerical growth over the past two years, in part due to our inclusive and welcoming attitude.

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  1. pantomancer says:

    What does the “Q” stand for ?

  2. someone must not know how to use a search engine

  3. ransteth says:

    I am confused as to which religious text Rev. Brown teaches from. The Holy Bible, the Quran, and the Torah, all mention the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah. Not just once, but multiple refferences are made, through out all of these books. Christian, Jewish, and Islamic faiths all tell the same story about how God/Allah destroyed them for their homosexual deviation.
    I am not saying it was right, or wrong, but if the book you teach from is wrong about this, what part of it is right? Is your text right about God & Jesus, yet wrong about everything else? Do you get to pick which writings are truthful?
    It seems to me that it is either All correct, or it is ALL BS.
    Which one is it, Reverend?

  4. ranseth – how about “which version of the Holy Bible”? Try a history lesson on the politics of The Bible and the version changes and you might understand how some people can read beyond the patriachial verses.

    Aside from that, to me, it’s all BS, since you asked.

  5. SandHills says:

    Reverand Brown,

    Since those scriptures provided in the article specifically condemned homosexuality as a sin – with none of the other scriptures making any point that such sins should be accepted, or endorsed as behavior for our clergy – please enlighten us as to what scripture you follow to step forward with your letter that endorses homosexual behavior?

  6. ransteth says:

    Those who have yet to decide.

  7. pantomancer says:

    Ah, thanks.

  8. pantomancer says:

    RSTUV :)

  9. ransteth says:

    1. Read the problem.
    2. Select the unknown.
    3. Translate into an equation.
    4. Use the rules to solve.
    5. Verify the result

    Hmmm, I am not so sure this method can be used by the “Questioning” group to solve their problem. It does, however, work great in algebra.

  10. GLBTQ — Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer

    That was a public service to avoid the thread turning into a Beavis and Butthead conversation.

    “you said queer….he…he…hehehehehehe”

  11. ransteth says:

    Apparently, the placement of “Im” in front of ones names denotes that they are, in fact, immature.

  12. pantomancer says:


  13. I’m sure your church will grow if this is your position, Rev. Brown, and if increased numbers is what you’re after, this should be a boost. I certainly hope it’s not your primary motivation, however. I think I read somewhere in the Gospel of John that Christians ought to be a bit concerned when the world loves them.

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