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RELIGION: Article ably clarifies thorny debate

Letter by Carl T. Fynboe, Lakewood on Feb. 28, 2012 at 2:09 pm with 10 Comments »
February 28, 2012 2:10 pm

Steve Maynard has written an excellent article, “Dividing point” (TNT, 2-26), on the interpretation of the Scriptures that has caused great anguish for pastors and parishioners, particularly among the mainline denominations regarding human sexuality.

I believe he has rightly clarified from his interviews the continuing debate on the question of the authority of the Scriptures as the infallible source in following Jesus Christ and his inspired word, and those who would follow a prevailing interpretation of the Scriptures that seems to me to be more culturally and “politically” correct.

I personally take a more traditional or orthodox stand on the authenticity of God’s word as revealed by the writers of the Bible and believe the laws of the Old Testament still prevail, and were fulfilled by the coming of Christ into our world.

Fortunately, without regard to our differences, shortcomings and failures we have a great God who loves all of us.

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  1. sandblower says:

    I personally take no stand on the authenticity of God’s word as revealed by the writers of the Bible and might someday believe the laws of the Old Testament still prevail, and were fulfilled by the coming of Christ into our world.
    Fortunately, without regard to our differences, shortcomings and failures we may have a great God who loves all of us.
    That’s the only way to write those sentences if one thinks about it for a few minutes.

  2. A lot of people, when it comes to Jesus, want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to accept parts of what he said and ignore other parts.

    If you hold that the Bible has any authority whatsoever, you are obligated to take the whole thing and wrestle with it.

    For instance, as I pointed out on another thread just moments ago:

    Those of you who wish to hold on to the Bible as reasonable MUST deal with passages like this one

    Jesus speaking:

    “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you.”

    Now, he want on to point out that you shouldn’t do as they were doing because they themselves had corrupted the law of God…but he said that the LAW THAT WAS written was meant to be obeyed. This is all in Matt. 23:2-7

    Where he modified the law, it was quite clear.

  3. And as with any religious statement, there is no way to discern why it is objectively more valid or truer than any other religious statement. It’s all preferences based on tradition and indoctrination.

  4. And as sozo repeated her post on Matthew 23, then I feel obligated to repeat mine here as well…

    sozo, My Bible seems to give a different interpretation to the passages in Matthew in which you say “the LAW THAT WAS written was meant to be obeyed. This is all in Matt. 23:2-7″

    Here is the verbatim quote from The Living Bible, for Matthew 23:1-4

    “THEN JESUS SAID to the crowds, and to his disciples, “You would think these Jewish leaders and these Pharisees were Moses, the way they keep making up so many laws! And of course you should obey their every whim! It may be all right to do what they say, but above anything else, don’t follow their example. For they don’t do what they tell you to do. They load you up with impossible demands that they themselves don’t even try to keep.”

    Now, this sure seems to me that Jesus is describing a bunch of fakes who are passing themselves off to be religious leaders. And when Jesus says, ” And of course you should obey their every whim!” he’s really being sarcastic, is he not?

    And going on with Matthew 23:5-7

    “Everything they do is done for show. They act holy by wearing on their arms little prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and by lengthening the memorial fringes of their robes. And how they love to sit at the head of the table at banquets, and in the reserved pews in the synagogue! How they enjoy the deference paid to them on the streets, and to be called ‘Rabbi’ and ‘Master’!”

    Jesus continues to describe these people as fakes and frauds and not as true religious leaders who should be followed.

    How is it that the verbatim text of The Living Bible disagrees so much with your view of these same passages?

  5. The Living Bible is a paraphrase, not a translation. It has value but is not used in biblical exegesis.

  6. Sozo ,
    If you look at the Bible you will also find that Paul changed the Christian faith from being just another Jewish Sect to a Religion open to all.

    In other words:
    Pre-Paul one had to be a Jew before one could be a Christian.

    After Paul did not have to be a Jew but only had to profess faith in the Lord and accept Jesus as your savoir.

    Among Bible Scholars the King James Version is generally considered to be the least accurate mainly because the translators put more emphasis on the lyrical qualities of the verse than on the actual meanings of the words.

    At best only 4 of the 10 Commandments are part of our legal codes:
    Thou shall not murder, comment adultery steal, nor bare false witness.

  7. sozo, By stating that The Living Bible is “a paraphrase, not a translation” I hope you’re not trying to say that the contents of The Living Bible have been altered to mean something the translated Bible does not mean, or that your paraphrasing of your translated version of The Bible is a better paraphrasing than The Living Bible, which was paraphrased by Bible Scholars.

    In fact, The Living Bible is the result of Bible exegesis for that matter. It is the more translated closer to modern English version of The original Bible with all the original intent of each passage maintained with its original meaning. Why would you are anyone have any issue with that?

  8. typo: are anyone (last sentence above)

    should be: or anyone

    Sorry about that.

  9. Sorry muckibr, but a paraphrase does not stand the test of scholarship. Even as good as Peterson’s The Message is, it is unwise to use it without checking it against a well-established translation such as the RSV or NIV.

  10. sozo, I hate to tell hyou, but the Living Bible is much closer to the original text than anything you are quoting. Please use a better translation and you might find the real truth in God’s words instead of man’s made up version that you tout so much.

    Just because hyour denomination has adopted the RSV or the NIV, theya re still corrupted texts, and you certainly picked a passage that has been shown to mean something much different that you are making it out to be.

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