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SANTORUM: Be wary of theocrats

Letter by Annie Russell, Gig Harbor on Feb. 21, 2012 at 4:59 pm with 30 Comments »
February 21, 2012 4:59 pm

A letter writer demands that American law follow Bible scripture in defining marriage (and presumably all other matters). Another claims Barack Obama has violated the Constitution by establishing the “religion of Political Correctness.”

Now Rick Santorum says Obama follows “some phony theology” that puts the Earth’s needs above man’s, and a spokesman for his campaign backs him up by stating that “theology” is the right word for any particular “worldview.”

All of these people reveal a common characteristic: Theology, or their religious belief, is the totality of their worldview; it occludes all else.

Many, likely most, Americans can live comfortably in a world that is not entirely painted in religious black and white. They rather like the colors of the world, the different people, languages, customs, traditions, beliefs, art, architecture and cuisines, and are happy to live and let live. And it just so happens that this is not only the American system, it’s also the Christian system: “Do not judge, lest you be judged.”

But American and real Christian values don’t work for religious zealots like Santorum. They are very afraid of and prejudiced against any other “worldview” that deviates from theirs. They believe righteously in their righteousnes and are perfectly willing to force their theology on everyone else.

There’s a word for that: theocrat. And a place for that: a theocracy. Thankfully, America is not a theocracy, and hopefully will continue to have the good sense not to elect, or listen to, theocrats like Santorum and other such believers.

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  1. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Funny, didn’t BHO use the Bible to justify raising taxes just last month? Where was your outrage then?

    Many Presidents were deeply religious, as were the bulk of the Founding Fathers. Nice fearmongering.

    That said, America can use a good dose of traditional values. The destruction of the family, lack of community, and lack of individual responsibility are detrimental to our long term success of our society and Nation.

  2. Cardinous says:

    “Funny, didn’t BHO use the Bible to justify raising taxes just last month?”

    Uh oh…Obama spoke in context at the National Prayer Breakfast

    “President Barack Obama on Thursday tied his proposal to raise taxes on wealthy Americans to his faith, telling leaders gathered for the National Prayer Breakfast that Jesus’s teachings have shaped that conclusion.

    The rich should pay more not only because “I actually think that is going to make economic sense, but for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that ‘for unto whom much is given, much shall be required,’” Obama said at the Washington Hilton, delivering remarks at an annual event that every president has attended since Dwight D. Eisenhower.”

    “We can all benefit from turning to our Creator, listening to him,” Obama said. “Avoiding phony religiosity. … This is especially important right now when we’re facing some big challenges as a nation.”
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72363.html#ixzz1n4kEq85i

    WOW! I’ll bet all the religionists agreed with him…..

    “America can use a good dose of traditional values”

    Let’s see. The Santorum Family had an abortion. Is that the values you’re seeking? We won’t even bring up the Gingrich household. The Romneys appear to be the cleanest of the bunch for the GOP and Republicans are looking for any candidate to beat him.

    Meanwhile, we have a nice family in the White House. First marriage, two wonderful daughers (none pregnant). Sounds like we have traditional values already.

  3. Cardinous says:

    WOW….since it was Santorum’s wife, there is an excuse? Let’s take a look…..

    “In October, 1996, his wife Karen had a second trimester abortion. They don’t like to describe it that way. In his 2004 interview with Terry Gross, Santorum characterizes the fetus, who must be treated as an autonomous person, as a practically a gunslinging threat, whom the mother must murder in self-defense. Karen has had to justify her decision to save her own life by explaining that if she died her other children would have lost a mother.”
    http://oursilverribbon.org/blog/?p=188

    Shall I post Santorum’s stand on abortion…the one he is peddling on the campaign trail?

    Here goes….it ain’t pretty:

    Q: In June, you said, “I believe that any doctor who performs an abortion should be criminally charged for doing so.” You would allow no exceptions for cases of rape and incest?

    SANTORUM: You know, the US Supreme Court on a recent case said that a man who committed rape could not be killed, could not be subject to the death penalty, yet the child conceived as a result of that rape could be. That to me sounds like a country that doesn’t have its morals correct. That child did nothing wrong. That child is an innocent victim. To be victimized twice would be a horrible thing. It is an innocent human life. It is genetically human from the moment of conception. And it is a human life. And we in America should be big enough to try to surround ourselves and help women in those terrible situations who’ve been traumatized already. To put them through another trauma of an abortion I think is too much to ask. And so I would absolutely stand and say that one violence is enough.

    http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Rick_Santorum_Abortion.htm

    OK…Rick we get it. A rape victim has to give birth.

    Proving how hypocritical the Right is, Obama uses a biblical reference to taxation and the Right disagrees with Jesus.

    “Hangs out with terrorists, enjoys hate speech at his church. Chicago style politician”

    You left out “born in Kenya”

  4. Cardinous says:

    The Grande Finale

    Teaparty darling Rick Santorum restated his stern view on abortion last week: it’s murder, no matter what the circumstances. Doesn’t matter if it’s incest, or rape, doesn’t matter if the victim is eleven years-old. This purportedly small government conservative is eager to use the power of The State to force rape victims to bear rapists’ children and jail doctors willing to intervene. Santorum calls any exceptions “phony excuses” and led the charge to outlaw partial birth procedures no matter what the reason. But Santorum is willing to make one exception. Guess which one?

  5. The Catholic Church does not condone abortion even to save the life of another. Who lives and who dies is up to God.

  6. concernedtacoma7 says:

    She did not have an abortion, show some class and rise above the rhetoric.

    http://www.salon.com/2012/01/06/karen_santorum_did_not_have_an_abortion/singleton/?mobile.html.

    Another mobile link but I am sure Kard can find the article.

    Now, her love affair with the abortion doc was weird, and it speaks to HER views and life experiences.

    He is pro-life and religious. Not an extreme view in America. Go over to the other side of the mountains and you will find a huge population in WA with those same beliefs. Just because Puget Sound and Cali are morally bankrupt, show some faith in America to counterbalance the loss of values in said regions.

    Ironically I am neutral leaning to pro-choice, but watching the left attack a man for his beliefs is not something I can let pass by.

  7. From CT7’s link:

    “Of course, without direct access to Karen Santorum’s medical files, we have to take their word for what happened, and with only sketchy details.”

    So Old Rickie can clear up the matter by publishing his wife’s medical records.

  8. littleroundtop says:

    Too bad the president does not make Shell pay for our gas, why should the catholic church be the only ones . After all in Obama land it is free . Right ? Women have to be able to drive to Planned Parenthood , why not make Shell make sure they have a way to get there .

    The logic of the left is underwhelming .

  9. Santorum doubled down on his hysterics. First he claimed that Satan was his opponent:
    http://drudgereport.com/flash3s.htm

    and then he claimed he was the equivalent to Churchill battling Hitler:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rick-santorum-cries-nazi/2012/02/21/gIQAjyw4RR_story.html?wpisrc=emailtoafriend

    And this is the guy the Repubs have settled on for their not-mitt-not-obama candidate?

  10. Wow, this is EXACTLY why our founding fathers wanted no established religion.

  11. @littleroundtop
    And your strawman is mighty and overwhelming.

  12. Anothermoniker says:

    I guess the Santorum’s interview with a reporter wasn’t credible.

    The same problem exists with his campaign.

  13. Anothermoniker says:

    “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

    That danged constitution.

  14. aislander says:

    I think Santorum was arguing against the religious tests required by statolatry and its doctrine of radical environmentalism. I don’t see his proposing such a test himself…

  15. aislander says:

    The only theocracies now extant are Islamic ones. I’m pretty sure that Santorum isn’t a Muslim…

  16. Anothermoniker says:

    “The only theocracies now extant are Islamic ones. I’m pretty sure that Santorum isn’t a Muslim… ”

    No, Santorum belongs to the only Christian theocracy in the world. It owns its own country. The Vatican.

  17. aislander says:

    Oh, please. Care to rethink that last? It doesn’t reflect well on its author…

  18. aislander – as someone once said, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

    There ARE folks who have made turning the US a Christian theocracy their primary objective. Google Christian Dominionism or Reconstructionism to find several articles about it. Better yet, go to this page for links to articles:
    http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/DirectoryRiseOfDominionismInAmerica.html

    There are several of the GOP social conservatives who have links, direct or indirect, to influential persons involved with Dominionism. To pretend that the theocratic urge is only from Islam is just whistling past the graveyard.

  19. Anothermoniker says:

    Are you claiming that The Vatican is not a Christian theocracy?

    You’d better head to the dictionary, as opposed to the thesaurus.

    As to Islam/Christianity – I see very little difference in the governing by one religion or another. Both religions, it appears, want to control women’s rights for openers. The rest is just nuance.

  20. Anothermoniker says:

    Just to cut through the crap, so to speak…

    Vatican City i/ˈvætɨkən ˈsɪti/, or Vatican City State,[14] in Italian officially Stato della Città del Vaticano (pronounced [ˈstaːto della t͡ʃitˈta del vatiˈkaːno]),[15] is a landlocked sovereign city-state whose territory consists of a walled enclave within the city of Rome, Italy. It has an area of approximately 44 hectares (110 acres), and a population of just over 800.[6][16] This makes Vatican City the smallest independent state in the world by both area and population.

  21. I guarantee you Rick Santorum will be caught in a homosexual sex scandal before the year is over. Anyone who is that fixated on what consenting adults do in their own homes has some deep personal issues that they are trying to hide.

    He definitely wouldn’t be the first extremist right-wing Christian homophobe to be outed in a homosexual affair:

    Sheriff Paul Babeu, February 16, 2012 – Conservative GOP Arizona sheriff and Mitt Romney’s AZ campaign co-chair

    Michael Berry, February 15, 2012 – Conservative Tea Party talk radio host

    Mayor Greg Davis (R) , December 16, 2011 – Conservative GOP who unsuccessfully ran for governor of TN on a strict “family values” platform

    John Smid, October 11, 2011 – Former conservative ex-gay ministry leader

    Rep. Philip Hinkle (R), Aug. 12, 2011 – Conservative still currently serving in the Indiana House of Representatives

    Reverend George Alan Rekers, May 4, 2010 – Conservative Southern Baptist Minister and member for several anti-gay organizations

    I could go on forever, these are just a few of the examples from the past two years.

  22. Anothermoniker says:

    tburki – you left out Jim Bakker, who had an ongoing affair with his cameraman, while married to Tammy Faye (biting fingers to avoid cheap jokes) and Ted Haggard, who, of course, fixed himself.

  23. aislander says:

    I don’t deny that the Vatican is an independent state. So what? I DO deny that there is an equivalency with, say, Iran or Pakistan.

    There is no one in the Vatican who isn’t there voluntarily, and in their vows they have VOLUNTARILY given themselves over to the Church. I have it on good authority that there are many in Iran who would prefer a secular government…

    Besides, if a vote were held in the Vatican, I’m certain it would uphold the current arrangement unanimously.

    As for drawing equivalency between Islam and Christianity, well there isn’t any. Suicide is a virtue under Islam and a sin in Christianity. And that’s just for starters. I don’t know of any one-handed Christians who were rendered so by church authority…

  24. Pacman33 says:

    “As to Islam/Christianity – I see very little difference …..

    The difference is left doesn’t constantly apologize to and for Christians. The left would be defending Christians and calling Americans bigots and racists for saying anything negative, if the left indeed saw “very little difference” between the two religions.

  25. “I don’t deny that the Vatican is an independent state. So what? I DO deny that there is an equivalency with, say, Iran or Pakistan.”

    Aside from the fact that they’re all theocracies. You’re welcome for the correction.

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