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TACOMA: Leave Occupy camp residents alone

Letter by Leda Darlington, Tacoma on Feb. 2, 2012 at 9:42 am with 16 Comments »
February 2, 2012 12:22 pm

Re: “Occupy Tacoma may face eviction” (TNT, 2-2).

This little park has had very little use from other citizens. The Occupy Tacoma residents survived a cold winter, while the rest of us were nice and warm in our houses. They found a family in their group and a peaceful home to come to.

They have not caused any police intervention and no problem of any importance – except some may not look good. They have not disturbed anybody as far as we know.

Actually I find the group kind of neat. Their presence makes the city appear as a place that accepts and lives in harmony with each other. When I walked by, people were more polite and friendlier than some other parts of the city.

They belong there with their statement and should be left alone. Concentrate on the city’s other problems.

Leave a comment Comments → 16
  1. BlaineCGarver says:

    Why not let them all on your front and back yard?

  2. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Found a home? It’s a public park, not a piece of private property they own or rent!

    The city (and the nation as a whole) is opening up a pandoras box letting people live in public parks as long as they hold a sign and tweet every now and then.

    These urban campers in Tacoma need to get cleaned out. Their presence in the tourist area of our city is an embarrassment and shows our leadership is lacking.

  3. lylelaws says:

    Leda,

    “They belong there with their message” What message?

  4. concer — are peoples right to free assembly and free speech only applicable on their own private property now? you said its a PUBLIC park. you think public places are not where you should get to exercise your rights, but only on your own private property? is this an old land-owners only issue from over a hundred years ago? where are you getting these ideas from? certainly not the constitution and bill of rights.

  5. you can judge their tactics, but the message is clear and succinct; income inequality.

  6. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Get a permit, protest, clean up your mess, and then go home.

    Even the author of this LTE admits these people are using the park as a residence, not a protest.

  7. olympicmtn says:

    “Actually I find the group kind of neat. Their presence makes the city appear as a place that accepts and lives in harmony with each other.”

    Whose smoking pot?

    Suggest the OWS group move to Norway where they can live free on personal property, and camp legally anywhere. There are no private property rights in Norway, so move there please.

  8. alindasue says:

    olympicmtn said, “Suggest the OWS group move to Norway where they can live free on personal property…”

    You speak somewhat incorrectly about the “freedom to roam” customs that seem to be common in several European countries. Actually, in Norway that only applies to uncultivated land and there are some explicit guidelines for such land use, such as camping is limited to two nights and must be conducted in a way that doesn’t inconvenience the land owner.

    I’m oversimplifying the explanation a bit, but the gist of it is that there are public use recreation rights and private land rights. Read about them here:
    http://www.regjeringen.no/en/doc/Laws/Acts/Outdoor-Recreation-Act.html?id=172932

    One thing I like about the Occupy Tacoma encampment is that it also provides a venue for well behaved homeless people to pitch their tents without the sanitation issues (lack of toilet and garbage facilities) that plague the usual homeless encampments around the city.

    Personally, I’ve always found the “Public Property – No Trespassing” signs I’ve seen on public land to be oxi-moronic. Either the land is public, or it is not. As members of the public, the Occupy Tacoma group should have as much right to the park as the rest of us do.

  9. pantomancer says:

    If we are being honest let’s admit the Tacoma site is unsightly. It appears most of the tents are unoccupied (no pun intended).
    As much as I hate to say, I think it’s time to throw in the towel.

  10. CT7,
    The park is at least as clean now as it was before it was occupied.

    While this may be somewhat of a stretch for one of your intellect – the OCCUPANCY IS THE PROTEST!

  11. philichi says:

    Every other city in American has gotten rid of theirs. Even crazy left wing cities like San Francisco and New York have sent their away and cleaned the mess.

    Probably time for these guys to get jobs.

  12. slugoxyz says:

    “Income equality”. Hmmm. Does “income equality” mean that everyone should have the same amount of money regardless to how hard they work, innovation, ingenuity, discovery, risk, and sacrifice? Does a person who works a menial job, takes drugs, takes no risks, gets no education further than public school (maybe less) deserve the exact same money as a person who pays a fortune for college, works hard to make themselves that 1% (probably more like 5-10%)?

    What a warped sense of entitlement. Even in a communist world where (in theory), all people work for the collective, working equally, contributing equally to the society, things don’t really work that way. Communism is really a neat idea that completely failed to take human nature into account. When was the last time you were in a work environment where everyone worked equally? So, in a communist society, there will be a few people that work really hard and a few lazy people who do as little as they are permitted. Eventually, the hard workers see that they are working harder for the same share as the lazy. In time, they stop working too.

    Income equality means that the person who thinks of something that no one else thought of receives no more reward than the person surfing the couch. Income equality means that the guy who works really, really hard receives no more benefit than the guy who does as little as possible.

    Is that really what we want? I’ve got to tell you, there are some people on the top rung of the ladder who inherited money but somebody worked hard for that money. Somebody invested well, created something brand new, worked a little harder in order to leave it to their children. We’re not talking about health care here. We’re talking about a society where everyone is equal although not deserving. You think that you are deserving simply because you exist? I say, you get what you earn. You earn your keep. If you choose to earn a little more to have a nicer car, a nicer house, cool toys, pay for your kids’ college, wear nice clothes, jewelry etc. Go for it. But I worked hard my whole life to have what I have now. My father worked hard his entire life so I would have opportunity (which I took advantage of after 20+ years of service to my country. I’ve earned it. Have you?

  13. philichi, FEB. 3, 2012 AT 9:11 AM
    Every other city in American has gotten rid of theirs. Even crazy left wing cities like San Francisco and New York have sent their away and cleaned the mess.

    AGAIN WITH THE MISINFORMATION philichi? You REALLY do need to get your facts straight before you post your comments.

    Washington D.C. is at least one city where the OWSers had NOT been “gotten rid of”. But you wrote “Every other city in America” had gotten rid of them. Not D.C.! So, your were WRONG again philichi!

    Police clear tents from Occupy site in DC; 7 held
    AP, updated 2/4/2012 7:41:28 PM ET

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46262384/ns/politics/#.Ty4vj5gXg8M

  14. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Muck, you prove his point. They are cleaning up the mess left by these losers, at taxpayer expense.

  15. muckibr says:

    con7 Not only do you NOT have the integrity to admit you are wrong, you don’t even have to brains to know when I have also proven philichi wrong. You continually prove your own lack of intelligence again, and again, and again!

  16. Pacman33 says:

    I don’t know why these people bother. Everything the OWS has said and done will mean absolutely nothing the moment 99% of the OWS casts their vote for Obama. The #1 culprit in the grievances #OWS speaks of ; The King of Corporate Cronyism with the largest corporate contribution total from Wall Street in history. The 0ne made Enron look like kids play compared to GE and Goldman Sachs.

    Nov 6, 2012 OWS, be exposed as nothing but hypocrites, liars and a transparent wing of the DNC

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