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	<title>Comments on: PROTESTS: Methods not effective</title>
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		<title>By: muckibr</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-191006</link>
		<dc:creator>muckibr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what do the mortgage loans and government bailouts have to do with PROTEST: Methods not effective?

Let&#039;s get back on track people!

FOCUS!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what do the mortgage loans and government bailouts have to do with PROTEST: Methods not effective?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get back on track people!</p>
<p>FOCUS!!!</p>
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		<title>By: concernedtacoma7</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-190637</link>
		<dc:creator>concernedtacoma7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, when the mortgages defaulted, the fed govt would own a large amount of homes.  They are not exactly known for being good landlords.

Yes, I know this happening indirectly today, but not as direct as if the Treasury bought failing mortgages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, when the mortgages defaulted, the fed govt would own a large amount of homes.  They are not exactly known for being good landlords.</p>
<p>Yes, I know this happening indirectly today, but not as direct as if the Treasury bought failing mortgages.</p>
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		<title>By: concernedtacoma7</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-190636</link>
		<dc:creator>concernedtacoma7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, the govt loaned money at 5% leaving the risk and work of unworking these securities with the private sector.  

It is Mr BHO who pushed through the stimulus, shifting auto companies failed policies of huge union benies on the taxpayer.  It is Barney Frank and Bill Clinton that were pushing fannie and freddie to take on more risk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, the govt loaned money at 5% leaving the risk and work of unworking these securities with the private sector.  </p>
<p>It is Mr BHO who pushed through the stimulus, shifting auto companies failed policies of huge union benies on the taxpayer.  It is Barney Frank and Bill Clinton that were pushing fannie and freddie to take on more risk.</p>
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		<title>By: beerBoy</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-190569</link>
		<dc:creator>beerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hint:  the banks define the projected interest collected over the life of the loan as an asset that they somehow, magically have access to right now.  If the loans were paid off they would lose their assets.

The problem isn&#039;t the little people&#039;s debts on overpriced houses, it is the financial system that treats projected income as though it exists now in order to &quot;guarantee&quot; the creation of even bigger debts which are in turn used as assets to &quot;guarantee&quot; more debts into infinity.  

It is the ultimate pyramid scheme - except this one is inverted - the base is the smallest part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hint:  the banks define the projected interest collected over the life of the loan as an asset that they somehow, magically have access to right now.  If the loans were paid off they would lose their assets.</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t the little people&#8217;s debts on overpriced houses, it is the financial system that treats projected income as though it exists now in order to &#8220;guarantee&#8221; the creation of even bigger debts which are in turn used as assets to &#8220;guarantee&#8221; more debts into infinity.  </p>
<p>It is the ultimate pyramid scheme &#8211; except this one is inverted &#8211; the base is the smallest part.</p>
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		<title>By: beerBoy</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-190568</link>
		<dc:creator>beerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the sub-prime mortgages were the problem, why didn&#039;t the TARP and the FED spend less money and just buy off all of the mortgages?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the sub-prime mortgages were the problem, why didn&#8217;t the TARP and the FED spend less money and just buy off all of the mortgages?</p>
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		<title>By: concernedtacoma7</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-190451</link>
		<dc:creator>concernedtacoma7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually agree with your last line.  Stop the re-selling of mortgages.  Make someone responsible for the risk close to the source.  

OK, &quot;The rich guy is getting richer by making the poor guy poorer.
 
My solution: Put American and American Workers first, and stop
subsiding the rich and big businesses.&quot;

No, the rich do not get rich by making the poor poorer.  How did Mark Zuckerberg make the poor poorer?  Bill Gates?  Steve Jobs?  The only one who gets rich by making the poor poorer are politicians.  

End subsidies.  OK, end ALL subsidies.  Green energy.  Auto bailouts.  Big oil.  But how do put &quot;American and American Workers first&quot;?  This is a free world.  American workers have to prove a compettitive advantage for the business hiring them.  American workers do work hard and efficiently, but costs outweight that advantage.  And regulations in America nickel and dime business to the point where they cannot produce in America.  

Look at the recent attacks on Boeing, Gibson Guitar, and the energy sector.  Why would you want to produce in America aside for patriotic reasons (and sorry, shareholders do not care).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually agree with your last line.  Stop the re-selling of mortgages.  Make someone responsible for the risk close to the source.  </p>
<p>OK, &#8220;The rich guy is getting richer by making the poor guy poorer.</p>
<p>My solution: Put American and American Workers first, and stop<br />
subsiding the rich and big businesses.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, the rich do not get rich by making the poor poorer.  How did Mark Zuckerberg make the poor poorer?  Bill Gates?  Steve Jobs?  The only one who gets rich by making the poor poorer are politicians.  </p>
<p>End subsidies.  OK, end ALL subsidies.  Green energy.  Auto bailouts.  Big oil.  But how do put &#8220;American and American Workers first&#8221;?  This is a free world.  American workers have to prove a compettitive advantage for the business hiring them.  American workers do work hard and efficiently, but costs outweight that advantage.  And regulations in America nickel and dime business to the point where they cannot produce in America.  </p>
<p>Look at the recent attacks on Boeing, Gibson Guitar, and the energy sector.  Why would you want to produce in America aside for patriotic reasons (and sorry, shareholders do not care).</p>
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		<title>By: xring</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-190446</link>
		<dc:creator>xring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Took1, if you are referring to my zinger to R-N-L, 

Brilliant, Absolutely Brilliant, advice from someone who can’t spell.

Concened,
I simple words that even you may be able to understand. 

The rich guy is getting richer by making the poor guy poorer.

My solution: Put American and American Workers first, and stop 
subsiding the rich and big businesses. 

The problem with the mortgage market is that the banks and other lenders bundled their subprime mortgages and Wall Street lied and said they were sound investments and then sold MBS to investors. 

PS: My solution: Lending Institutions should be requied to hold on to 90% of the loans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Took1, if you are referring to my zinger to R-N-L, </p>
<p>Brilliant, Absolutely Brilliant, advice from someone who can’t spell.</p>
<p>Concened,<br />
I simple words that even you may be able to understand. </p>
<p>The rich guy is getting richer by making the poor guy poorer.</p>
<p>My solution: Put American and American Workers first, and stop<br />
subsiding the rich and big businesses. </p>
<p>The problem with the mortgage market is that the banks and other lenders bundled their subprime mortgages and Wall Street lied and said they were sound investments and then sold MBS to investors. </p>
<p>PS: My solution: Lending Institutions should be requied to hold on to 90% of the loans.</p>
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		<title>By: concernedtacoma7</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-190442</link>
		<dc:creator>concernedtacoma7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Muck- those mortgage backed securities facilitate a spreading of the risk, allowing mortgages for the highest risk (lower earners) to buy a house at an affordable rate.  

The problem with the mortgage market is fannie and freddie shifting the risk from investors to the govt.  

As to Bain Capital, I would have to do so research since I know very little about the company.  But why should I care?  Breaking up companies is part of the business cycle.  Did you just watch Pretty Woman?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muck- those mortgage backed securities facilitate a spreading of the risk, allowing mortgages for the highest risk (lower earners) to buy a house at an affordable rate.  </p>
<p>The problem with the mortgage market is fannie and freddie shifting the risk from investors to the govt.  </p>
<p>As to Bain Capital, I would have to do so research since I know very little about the company.  But why should I care?  Breaking up companies is part of the business cycle.  Did you just watch Pretty Woman?</p>
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		<title>By: concernedtacoma7</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-190439</link>
		<dc:creator>concernedtacoma7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a little analysis shows, if you look at the individuals, not a block percentage, the story reads different. 

Yes, the top one percent makes a ton of paper money. So what?  Looking at those who hit the top 1%, their incomes fell in the past 10 years. 

And as you point out, they are doing better than the bottom bracket. But the bottom bracket still went up!  So who cares?  

Muck- all those companies provide a service. Hence why in my earlier post I said &quot;product or service&quot;. 

Hate banks and Wall Street all you want, but they are essential to our economy. Buy a house, 99% of us are getting a loan from a bank. Store money in a floorboard or a checking account. 

Buy a new car, all those cars are purchased by the dealer on a loan. 

Back to &#039;inequality&#039;- xring, what do all those numbers mean to economy and what changes do you propose. 

How is the rich guy getting richer affecting the little guy?  Very curious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a little analysis shows, if you look at the individuals, not a block percentage, the story reads different. </p>
<p>Yes, the top one percent makes a ton of paper money. So what?  Looking at those who hit the top 1%, their incomes fell in the past 10 years. </p>
<p>And as you point out, they are doing better than the bottom bracket. But the bottom bracket still went up!  So who cares?  </p>
<p>Muck- all those companies provide a service. Hence why in my earlier post I said &#8220;product or service&#8221;. </p>
<p>Hate banks and Wall Street all you want, but they are essential to our economy. Buy a house, 99% of us are getting a loan from a bank. Store money in a floorboard or a checking account. </p>
<p>Buy a new car, all those cars are purchased by the dealer on a loan. </p>
<p>Back to &#8216;inequality&#8217;- xring, what do all those numbers mean to economy and what changes do you propose. </p>
<p>How is the rich guy getting richer affecting the little guy?  Very curious.</p>
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		<title>By: took14theteam</title>
		<link>http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/12/13/writer-fails-to-recognize-effective-methods-of-protest/#comment-190406</link>
		<dc:creator>took14theteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[xring, when you try and post a zinger, you should at least proofread the comment and correct the spelling before hitting submit.

Just saying.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xring, when you try and post a zinger, you should at least proofread the comment and correct the spelling before hitting submit.</p>
<p>Just saying&#8230;..</p>
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