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PROTESTS: What’s the real motive?

Letter by Michael R. Peluso, Puyallup on Oct. 21, 2011 at 5:21 pm with 48 Comments »
October 24, 2011 10:32 am

I learned a long time ago not to judge people by their looks, but after seeing the occupiers in the Occupy Wall Street protests, I’m making an exception.

I just don’t sense an entrepreneurial spirit, the willingness to risk it all, the intelligence to take an idea and turn it into a fortune, the acumen to run a large corporation and manage hundreds or thousands of employees. I don’t see anybody who can take thousands and wisely turn it into millions. I don’t see any philanthropists who have endowed universities, hospitals and museums. I don’t see any Bill Gateses and Warren Buffets who have given billions back to society. I don’t see any Howard Schultzes who have acted on a dream and created thousands of jobs for those in the 99 percent.

Of course, that one percent includes the Bernie Madoffs and Kerry Killingers, but they are a minuscule minority. Ninety-nine percent of that one percent made their money through admirable qualities that the protesters just don’t have, or chose not to exercise.

My favorite Aesop’s Fable is “The Fox and the Grapes.” The moral of that fable is “any fool can despise what he cannot have.” I have a hunch that Aesop’s moral just might apply to the protesters.

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  1. Then you didn’t see Susan Sarandon in the mob, Michael. Her motive was to win an Oscar. Hollywood just loves those flaming lib’s who make millions by making us make believe they are just regular folks while they come and go in their Bentley’s form their shacks in Bel Air. Calling the Pope a “Nazi” should clinch the nomination.

  2. straw men arguments based upon your negative stereotypes are so much easier than trying to understand the motivations for a mass movement.

  3. Not in the mood for a bit of satire, bBoy? Do you suppose those naive young protesters have any idea how many dollars successful capitalists give every day to the poor of this world. Bet they don’t.

    The Black Hat/White Hat Syndrome is alive and well in colleges and universities across the land. Rich business men and women wear black ones. Kind, compassionate, enlightened pacifists wear white ones. Still, how DOES one color Susan Sarandon’s hat, or Sean Penn’s or Michael Moore’s or the little short comedian whose name I am inclined to forget? Perhaps they are quick-change artists, perhaps that’s it.

  4. so sozo….are you saying that the Goldman Sachs/AIG manipulations qualify as “white hat” because there are some of them that give a tenth of one percent of their income to charity?

  5. LarryFine says:

    I drove by the little occupation of the corner at 23rd and Pacific Av at 10 am today. There were probably 10 tents… and just one single person holding a sign. I saw no other people there. I had to wonder, are they just sleeping in or looking for work.

  6. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Tea party protests brought out many citizens that were never involved in government (before besides voting). They mobilized and acted with civility, and in the end led to the formation of a caucus in congress.

    OWS is largely lead by professional protesters. In the end they will fade away, find some other misc cause (not that they have a unified message now) and be a footnote in progressive history books.

  7. Larry – funny but I to went passed the 23rd and Pacific at 10 am today and I say at least 8 to 10 people, half of who were holding signs.

    concerned7 – more phantasmagorical ravings passing as right wing talking points. Or have you forgotten all the congressional town hall meetings the tpots disrupted?

  8. concernedtacoma7 says:

    A meeting established for the community to voice their opinion. Yeah, blocking the Brooklyn Bridge and storming a Chase bank are almost in the same league.

    Thousands of arrests, taxpayer money wasted policing the OWS, court costs, etc.

  9. LarryFine says:

    Well that’s weird xring… maybe when I drove past they were at Starbucks getting their wake-up jo.

  10. “so sozo….are you saying that the Goldman Sachs/AIG manipulations qualify as “white hat” because there are some of them that give a tenth of one percent of their income to charity?”

    Absolutely not, bBoy. I am suggesting that such caricatures serve no purpose at all.

    I remember quite well how many of my cohorts in the sixties viewed and portrayed successful business people, and then went on to fill emptied seats at university, determined to perpetuate a generalized contempt for a system that supported rich-getting. Wm Ayers comes to mind.

    Among those folks, many were artists, which is how I presume Hollywood celebrites prefer to view themselves…as artists. For most of them, this is of course, quite a stretch. One result is the presence of such figures as Moore, Penn and Sarandon at events typically attended by college-age folks and their mentors. Some are known for giving to the poor, but I would suggest their giving ranks right up there with the stats you provided for GS/AIG givers which I assume you got from a legit source?

    My point was that rich people are not by definition, evil-doers.

    Rich Americans have always produced philanthropists and benefactors, and I’m guessing that very few of the protesters are aware of the millions of dollars they have given to help others.

  11. AlabamaGeorge says:

    concerned7 – the first tea party get togethers were anything but civil. Several town hall meetings had to be closed down and citizens didn’t get to address their congresspeople.

  12. AlabamaGeorge says:

    Also – as far as professional protestors – it’s well known that Freedom Works has provided perks for tea party protestors

  13. aislander says:

    So…we’re still fixating on the terrible truth that some participants in town-hall meetings were rude (probably after receiving non-answers to their questions) to their “representatives”. Heaven forfend!

    Ever been to a campus speech given by a conservative? THAT’S where you’ll see “rude,” as well as “dangerous.” Do you remember the civil demeanor of the WTO protestors? Not a lot of right wingers there…

    Have you seen the OWS scum invading bank lobbies? Not only rude, but illegal…

  14. aislander says:

    By the way, those town-hall meetings were closed down due to the choice of the political poltroons (mostly Democrats)who couldn’t stand up to tough, legitimate questions from their OWN constituents…

  15. Voltaire says:

    Why should any Congressman, attempting to converse with constituents, have to put up with people trying to shout them down. To blame the Congresspeople for the behavior of the attendees is much like blaming the victim of an assault for being in the wrong place. That is a tactic that only works in a partisan fashion.

  16. aislander says:

    There is one thing about the left that I especially despise, and that is the tactic of drawing moral equivalence between actions that are not equal. The purposeful disruption practiced by the left is NOT the same thing as the passion expressed by ordinary Americans who perceived that they were not getting from their representatives the respect they deserved, nor responsive answers to their legitimate questions about their own government…

  17. Have you seen the OWS scum invading bank lobbies? Not only rude, but illegal…

    Have you seen that Citibank and BoA have refused to allow customers to withdraw funds and close accounts? Not only rude, but illegal….

    Have you seen how Citibank and BoA have fraudulently foreclosed on properties that they didn’t even have title to? Not only rude, but illegal…



  18. Voltaire says:

    planned disruption by Conservatives – passion

    planned disruption by Liberals – a conspiracy that should be stopped by law, even if it requires elimination of the First Amendment

  19. LarryFine says:

    Kardnos get banned ?

  20. concernedtacoma7 says:

    We all hope so.

  21. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Disrupting a townhall has nothing to do with affecting commerce or people’s daily lives. Imagine your wife worked in the Chase overrun by OWS supporters.

  22. Voltaire says:

    there is no excuse for disrupting a town hall meeting, regardless of how hard one tries to create one.

  23. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Put a disruption of a political meeting vs disruption of people going to work (Brooklyn Bridge) or people at work (Chase) in an honest perspective.

    The costs are zero vs millions, nevermind the disruption in people’s lives/routines.

  24. Because we all know that disrupting bankers at work is far worse that disrupting the free exchange of ideas within a political forum…..right? That is why the 1st Amendment is there……..

    Corporations aren’t people, corporations are Republicans.

  25. Pacman33 says:

    Because we all know that disrupting bankers that couldn’t appease the OWS rodent’s grievances, even if they were coherent, is far more preposterous than exposing a congressman who only approves softball questions at townhalls.

    The once “common sense” tactic of targeting source of the change sought with protests was likely the TEA Party’s key to success. Instead of a dramatic 60 seat swing in the House of Reps.,the hobocrats will only garner puzzled looks from the hard working Wall Street folks.

    The bankers should hire the townhall question screeners and some SEIU thugs. The were effective at stifling 1st Amendment exchanges at protests.

    Corporations aren’t people, corporations are Kanye West, Russell Simmons Susan Sarandon, Michael Moore, Roseanne Barr …..

    Freakin Faux-test

  26. aislander says:

    beerBoy writes: “…we all know that disrupting bankers at work is far worse that disrupting the free exchange of ideas within a political forum…”

    The lice-ridden scum were not “disrupting bankers,” but overrunning people who were hired to work in the bank. No CEOs there.

    The cowardly politicians at town meetings ended the “free exchange of ideas” when they refused to exchange ideas and ran away from the venues…

  27. LarryFine says:

    The selective outrage of the left on display… huh Voltnos …

  28. aislander says:

    LarryFine: I think I hear a drum solo…

  29. The lice-ridden scum

    Hello sozo…..where are your stern reprimands?

  30. aislander says:

    I don’t believe I was referring to anyone on this forum, beerBoy. Or was I…

  31. I don’t have enough hair to have lice…..

  32. aislander says:

    There is more than one kind of louse…

  33. Lice (singular: louse) is the common name for over 3,000 species of wingless insects of the order Phthiraptera; three of which are classified as human disease agents.

    Humans host three different kinds of lice: head lice, body lice, and pubic lice. Lice infestations can be controlled with lice combs, and medicated shampoos or washes. Adult and nymphal lice can survive on sheep-shearers’ moccasins for up to 10 days, but microwaving the footwear for five minutes in a plastic bag will kill the lice

  34. #ows is full of moccasin wearing sheep shearers!!???

  35. I’ve said it before, but I guess I need to say it again…any “reprimands” I’ve directed at you, and I believe that is the wrong choice of words, but I’ll let it go for now…any challenges directed at you bBoy arose out of the fact that you have attempted for years now to portray yourself as one above the fray when it comes to both sarcasm and snarkiness, thus when you are either sarcastic or snarky, I’m inclined to say something.

    What offends me is intellectual and emotional dishonesty. Kardnos saw no value in my apology for giving rein to my sarcasm, but I chose to publicly MAKE the apology because I truly am displeased with myself when I lapse into such exchanges.

    Additionally, as ai points out, his licey comment was not directed at you or anyone here.

  36. Looktheresanother1 says:

    An apology is only an apology if it’s unconditional

  37. aislander says:

    An apology has to be FOR something. That is a condition…

  38. aislander says:

    beerBoy writes: “#ows is full of moccasin wearing sheep shearers!!???”

    Probably not, but lots of sheep, some of whom MAY wear moccasins…

  39. Perhaps they got tired of being sheep…..

  40. you have attempted for years now to portray yourself as one above the fray when it comes to both sarcasm and snarkiness,

    sozo – I have, more than a few times, owned my ability to get down and dirty just like everyone else. More often then not, my snark is a counter-snark in response to comments that are ad hominem in nature – like your stated “fear” about me teaching in a university setting.

    When I am in discussions with posters who actually discuss ideas rather than attack the person who they disagree with – like MarksonofDarwin – you will find that I respond in kind.

    In other words – to get rather juvenile about it – “you started it!”

  41. I admit that what I wrote sounded pretty snotty, bBoy but I can’t lie, it was kind of scaring me. I mean it wasn’t snark for snark’s sake.

    So, let’s just all admit that we occasionally get ticked and pop off from time to time and stop over reacting when it happens? Feelings come and go. Kickin’ up a little dust now and again isn’t going hurt anyone long term.

  42. Voltaire says:

    “I learned a long time ago not to judge people by their looks, but after seeing the occupiers in the Occupy Wall Street protests, I’m making an exception.”

    You missed the thousands of working people?

  43. Peeannoplaya says:

    snark for snark’s sake?


  44. aislander says:

    If they weren’t a certain breed of sheep, they wouldn’t be there, beerBoy…

  45. took14theteam says:

    Where has Kardnos been?

  46. LarryFine says:

    Who cares took1 ? It’s been nice not having to scroll past all the worthless wallpaper… IMO.

  47. took14theteam says:

    It was kind of a rhetorical question, and I definitely don’t care.

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