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OBAMA: How can he have confidence in Eric Holder?

Letter by Hank Harwell, Browns Point on Oct. 6, 2011 at 1:03 pm with 39 Comments »
October 6, 2011 1:59 pm

President Obama said (TNT, 10-6) he has full confidence in Attorney General Eric Holder and how he runs his office. Then he said neither he nor Holder had full knowledge of the Fast and Furious Operation.

This is a curious comment, since Holder has responsibility for having full knowledge of this type of Justice Department operation. How can Obama have full confidence in him if he doesn’t know what he is supposed to know?

 

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  1. Oh, for the good old days in the Attorney Generals office with John Ashcroft & Alberto Gonzales.., Those great years when the attorney generals office became a political arm of the Republican party and the justice department was wracked by scandals over politically motivated hirings, firings, warrantless wiretappings of U.S. citizens, and waterboarding, etc.

    Ah, those were the days my friend!

    But it is disappointing that the current justice department would imitate the Bush/Gonzales justice department on anything, let alone walking-guns to criminals to track their sales, especially after the seldom reported Bush/Gonzales “Wide Receiver” gun-walking caper failed so miserably in 2006.

  2. klthompson says:

    More to the point. How can anyone have confidence in Obama who appointed Holder and doesn’t have the sense to fire him?

  3. aislander says:

    Ah…justifying bad (or incompetent) behavior by pointing to other bad behavior–real or fabricated. Knee-jerk lefties are the one constant in life…

  4. xx98411 says:

    Or you could look at it this way cirrus…

    How stupid, incompetent, brain dead, uninformed, misguided, wrong, etc… must you and your AG be if you attempt to duplicate a program of a President that you spent your entire Senate career disagreeing with, your entire campaign demonizing and your entire presidency blaming…

    Oh yeah, the smartest people in DC are not sitting in the White House nor it appears the current Justice Department. This is a FUBAR amongst FUBARs and your attempt to lay blame at the foot of the previous administration is, for this issue, sickening.

    A husband, a father, a son was murdered by a weapon that they just didn’t accidently lose track of, they intentually let it work it way across the border.

    Regardless of administration, the BATF is a walking nightmare in their attempts to regulate weapons. Anybody with two functional brain cells could have told you the serious risks with the proposed actions of the BATF…. but to attempt to do it again… beyond stupid, brain dead… and now it appears, criminal.

    Save the President a trip to legal counsel, the administrative paperwork and just resign…

    Mr. President, there is a mirror in your study in the White House. Stare long and hard, think about why you continue to support and AG who is hostile to America, whose judgment is flawed and who biased in his application of justice.

  5. xx98411 says:

    From Rep Labrador (ID)

    “The Attorney General of the United States has an obligation to provide truthful and accurate testimony to Congress. When Attorney General Eric Holder testified before Congress on May 3, his statements were either untrue or deliberately misleading. It is clear from recently-released documents that Mr. Holder did in fact know about Fast and Furious well before he publicly admitted. Attorney General Holder has a troubling pattern of failed cooperation with the legislative branch. Because of this intentional stonewalling and his misleading testimony, I now call for Mr. Holder’s resignation. It is clear he has not been honest about the extent of his involvement with the failed Fast and Furious program and should not be entrusted with managing the Department of Justice.

    “He cannot avoid responsibility for his involvement with a government program that directly led to the tragic death of a decorated U.S. Border Patrol agent. As our nation’s top enforcer of the principles of law and justice, Mr. Holder has lost all credibility and should step down immediately. The question now is if Mr. Holder is he only protecting himself or is he also protecting others – perhaps all the way to the top of the administration.”

  6. LarryFine says:

    :)

  7. beerBoy says:

    Gotta wonder about what is in the water in the Beltway – whoever thought up and then approved Fast and Furious was clearly not firing on all cylinders.

  8. beerBoy says:

    Holder, Gonzales, Ashcroft (who was appointed after losing an election to a dead man), Reno…..

    Our AGs have been even worse than our Presidents.

  9. Obomba doesn’t care about any of these little trifling items. He is driven by hatred of freedom, the USA, the Constitution, and typical white folk. If you think for a second he cares about ANYTHING else but destroying this country and golf, you aren’t paying attention and you are a zombie.

  10. harleyrider1 says:

    Holder should be terminated, period.

    Accountability is what is needed. The “I’m sorry” from the honest ones or the “I didn’t know anything until I read the newspaper” from the dishonest ones, is not what America needs to get back to its roots.

    Accountability. Americans died.

    As for Obama – there’s an election coming if you want more of this.

  11. The Watergate burglary did no physical harm to anyone. Yet the investigation culminated in the resignation of a president. Fast and Furious resulted in loss of life and scores of assault weapons in the hands of ther worst sort of killers. What did Holder know and when did he know it?

  12. theglovesRoff says:

    It’s the seriousness of the charge, not the nature of the evidence……

  13. The ‘Wide Receiver” program that cirrus mentions was controlled for the most part although a few weopons did slip by. Most of them were tracked and recovered. Combine “Solyndra” and “Fast and Furious'” those alone should be enough reason for impeachment proceedings to begin. Holder is an accomplice to the murder of the Border Patrol agent and should be put on trial. His underlings are jumping ship faster than a welfare mom can run to the mailbox. They all need to be rounded up for a Congressional hearing, although the Senate under “dingy” Harry Reed would never get involved in such a process. The under lying reason for “Fast and Furious” was to cause enough havoc with automatic weopons along the border that the DOJ could impose gun control. This will all come out in the hearings.

  14. beerBoy says:

    those alone should be enough reason for impeachment proceedings to begin.

    There is a Republican-controlled Congress that has stated that its primary goal is to dislodge Obama from the White House……if these really are “high crimes and misdemeanors” then they would jump at the opportunity.

    velmak – it was the cover-up with Watergate that brought Nixon down, not the original crime.

  15. xx98411 says:

    They would “jump at the opportunity” because it is the role of Congress as a co-equal branch as well as a violation of the law and/or the oath of office for the AG.

    In this case the original activity might also be a violation of the law, it has yet to be determined if the ongoing stonewalling warrents at a minimum a reprimand, resignation to possible criminal charges.

  16. LarryFine says:

    I know this will be redundant… news flash for bB… when was the last time the opposition party’s goal wasn’t to “dislodge” the president ?

  17. bB, and your point was?

    Holder is covering up faster than Bill Clinton in a trailer park full of bimbos in blue dresses.

  18. you are on a nice roll today velmak… ;)

  19. LarryFine says:

    LMAO

  20. I notice that none of the Conservatives want to talk about the RESPONSIBILITY of Attorneys General during Republican administrations.

    That is under the category of “Bush isn’t president anymore”….the standard line when you remind a Conservative about misdeeds of a Republican….

    Of course, regurgitating Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky is a current event……:::::::eyeroll:::::::::

  21. You are correct karnos, this is now…

    Obama is the current President

    Holder is the current Attorney General

    Fast & Furious is the current scandle… sooo…

    this would be the appropiate topic of conversation to have.

    Can to share anything of value or do you have little brown dumplings to drop off…?

  22. By the way read for comprehesion, no word “Monica” was uttered…

  23. “LarryFine says:
    October 8, 2011 at 8:47 am
    I know this will be redundant… news flash for bB… when was the last time the opposition party’s goal wasn’t to “dislodge” the president ?”

    Provide is a public quote where the Democratic leader of the Senate said such.

  24. Funny thing….when you search “Democratic Senate leader says number one goal to stop President from being elected”….all you get is stories about McConnell’s quote….

    I wonder why?

    Are internet seach engines now controlled by the ‘libruls”?

  25. xx….how cute! Blue dress, Bill Clinton, bimbos…….yep….nothing to do with Monica Lewinsky….huh?

    Do you realize how silly you make yourself look when you deny that which is so obvious?

    OK….I’ll play……who was president last? Bush or Clinton? It’s just part of the constant hypocrisy of the Conservative Right

  26. “New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.

    On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, “I’m not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.”

    Yet internal Justice Department documents show that at least ten months before that hearing, Holder began receiving frequent memos discussing Fast and Furious. “

  27. “Senator Chuck Grassley and Congressman Darrell Issa today said that Attorney General Eric Holder received at least five weekly memos beginning in July 2010, including four weeks in a row, describing the ill-advised strategy known as Operation Fast and Furious. The memos were to Holder from Michael Walther, the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center.”

  28. “Oops! Documents just unearthed show that the attorney general of the United States lied to Congress about when he first knew of the scandalous Operation Fast and Furious. Misstatements of fact by senior government officials under oath can be treated very severely. Remember Scooter Libby? He recalled the date of a meeting to the FBI differently than did others, and was convicted of a felony.”

    Oops indeed…

  29. Care to share anything of value or do you have little brown dumplings to drop off…?

  30. theglovesRoff says:

    He probably thinks they don’t stink either…..

    :-)

  31. larsman says:

    Where does the buck stop, again?

    Vague stupidity + stuttering theatrics = punctuated creative lying + selective communication documentation deletion.

    In mathematics, this is also known as the commutative principle.

    Waiting for BHO’s ” I’m behind him 1000%” 1972 Tom Eagleton moment?

  32. KARDNOS says:

    “Vague stupidity + stuttering theatrics = punctuated creative lying + selective communication documentation deletion.”

    Larsman….how many times do they have to remind you that George Bush isn’t president, thus you can’t talk about him.

  33. KARDNOS says:

    It’s funny how the Right is so informed about Holden’s knowledge of the day to day operations of Fast and Furious….yet…..

    With detailed investigation and 10 years of documentation, they still can’t seem to grasp the ignoring of 50+ memos about a terrorist attack on 9/11/01…..

    Remember Scooter Libby? ……Presidential commuting of his sentence for participating in outting an active CIA agent. I think that is called “treason” in most circles which is punishable by death. Great example……..

  34. “It’s time for Congress to impeach Attorney General Eric Holder.

    Congress may remove from office “all civil officers of the United States” if they are convicted of “treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors,” the Constitution says (Article II, Section 4).

    Only the House of Representatives can impeach, which is comparable to indictment. The official is then tried by the Senate, where a two-thirds vote is required for conviction.

    The Constitution doesn’t say what constitutes “high crimes and misdemeanors,” but perjury surely is among them. So is obstruction of justice.”

    —Jack Kelly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

  35. You can talk about Bush and anything else all you want… I will talk about the impending resignation of Eric Holder, soon to be former Attorney General of the United States.

    Its all falling apart and I know this saddens you.

    Like an old man, sickly in a chair with nothing more than memories of what could have been… only to have it all fall apart right before your eyes… I understand…

  36. Love the selective outrage from the group that was just peachy keen with Ashcroft’s adamant decision to downgrade anti-terrorism efforts of the DOJ prior to 9/11 in spite of the intel that demonstrated a rising threat – and then they tried to blame the previous President for their favored Party’s President failing to protect the U.S.

  37. Thank you bb – all the more reason for Congress to perform it Constitutionally mandated duty to investigate the Executive branch to determine if wrong doing has occured…

    We would not want to repeat the mistakes of the past now would we…?

  38. xx — when the Dems refused to impeach Reagan over Iran/Contra because he was a popular president and the Republicans impeached Clinton over a stained blue dress because he was a popular president, no one should really imagine that Congress would impeach because it was the right thing to do.

  39. First – no one is talking about impeaching the President over Fast & Furious… at least those in the arena doing the investigation… the peanut gallery always throws popcorn to get attention…

    Second – Holder is the focus as this is under his watch. He is not helping himself and the investigation is just following the bread crumbs…

    Third – Issa and Congress are doing the right thing…

    Ugly and messy as heck, let the system work….

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