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COSTCO: Another one bites the dust

Letter by Peg Davidson, Olympia on Oct. 6, 2011 at 1:12 pm with 74 Comments »
October 6, 2011 1:12 pm

I see in the business section (TNT, 10-6) that Costco, the last, good corporate entity, has succumbed to the profit monster and is raising costs for membership in order to give bigger profits to the shareholders.

Doesn’t the company realize that this is the mindset that spurred the present protests?

I used to laud Costco for treating its employees better and providing the benefits it should, in contrast to Walmart. Now it has joined the other greedy capitalists. Too bad (sigh).

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  1. tree_guy says:

    Companies like Costco which have raised their prices are responsible for “spurring the present protests?” Isn’t that a bit of an exageration? Every company, greedy or otherwise, adjusts its prices according to market conditions.

  2. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Hey Peg, why not do what your champion Dicky Durbin says and just ”vote with your feet”? Or better yet, make/ grow it yourself and quit whining. After all, in your larboard view of the world, there are no good corporate entities, right?

    Oh yeah… forgot, Costco sells Walmart stuff cheaper in bulk – and you don’t have to put up with the riff-raff.

    Ain’t capitalism great? The ”last good corporate entity”, indeed.

  3. alindasue says:

    Vox_clamantis_in_deserto said, “Oh, yeah… forgot, Costco sells Walmart stuff cheaper in bulk …”

    I’d say it’s quite clear that you’ve never actually shopped in a Costco, have you?

  4. Peg was not talking about merchandise prices:but raising costs for membership
    which is why we stopped shopping there. $50 for one year of shopping at costco just wasn’t worth it to us plus we buy “sale” items only at local grocery stores and since we cook from scratch what we need is always on sale locally. I just think that when one has to pay to shop somewhere it is absurd, period.

  5. alindasue says:

    tree_guy said, “Every company, greedy or otherwise, adjusts its prices according to market conditions.”

    As much as I don’t like the $5 increase, I do have to acknowledge that the membership price has up until now stayed pretty much the same over the decade I’ve been shopping there while prices have been jumping everywhere else.

  6. Shattah206 says:

    Missing from all the Costco-bashing news reports: how long has it been since Costco raised membership fees? I’m thinking quite a while. Relax, if it’s an issue with those of us who pay them, next year’s numbers will show it. If you don’t have a Costco membership ummmmmm . . . well, you know.

  7. klthompson says:

    I don’t see anyone else giving Cash Back Rewards for shopping in their stores. The $300 plus rebate I get back every year seems to makeup for the paltry membership fee. I believe that fee has remained the same for many years. I trade at the Gig Harbor Costco and have to say I never have trouble finding someone for help which is far more than what I can say about Albertson’s, Safeway, etc. where I shop for items not offered by Costco.

  8. itwasntmethistime says:

    Dirty rotten greedy stockholders. Oh wait — that’s most of us. Anyone with a 401k or IRA is invested in the stock market, and most of us who contribute to those accounts do hope they will rise in value.

  9. Todd_Hall says:

    Costco last raised their membership fee five years ago. That’s okay with me, as the price of a Costco hot dog and drink have stayed the same, as has the slice of pizza. Besides, I eat the free samples, supplied by the vendors, and often I don’t have to buy lunch or dinner, so I’ll get the $5 back in no time. LOL

    The one thing that bothers me, is that Costco still tries to limit who you can add on to your membership with the extra card. According to Costco’s policy, the additional card is suppose to go to a household member. I have a business membership, and I think I should be able to give the extra card to someone that I feel can help me in my business, whether that person lives in my household or not. Sam’s Club allows a member to give the extra card to anyone the member wants to give it to. In fact the extra card can be used by anyone, although the member on record is liable for any bounced checks.

    After much complaining, I found that the store manager is able to over-ride the policy and allow the member to give the extra card to anyone they want. Since I know a couple of the store managers in my area, they allowed me to put someone who wasn’t a household member on my membership.

  10. stetsonwalker says:

    I put no weight in the “protesters” . If you are going to protest something you do not like, have an answer. When asked, say this is what we are against and instead of doing it this way we are saying to do this plan
    A
    B
    C
    Then you have voice. At least the Vietnam protesters had an ideal plan to put in action I was not for it but it was a plan! You cannot be taken seriously when you say “we stand against this” and when asked what we should do different and your answer is “something else”.

  11. theglovesRoff says:

    Hey Peg, that $5 a year increase going to “Corporate greed” is 41.7 cents per month. Or, 1.37 cents per day. That is far less than the 0.3% sales tax increase that the lefties wanted to pass in Pierce County for mass transit. That tax increase would have been 30 cents on a $10 dollar purchase (as the left and the media like to promote tax increases). I think you are getting a better deal with the Costco membership increase because you can cancel the Costco membership, but you can’t cancel the tax increase…..

  12. SwordofPerseus says:

    theglovesRoff says:

    “0.3% sales tax increase that the lefties wanted to pass in Pierce County for mass transit. That tax increase would have been 30 cents on a $10 dollar purchase.”

    Sorry Einstein but a 0.3% tax would amount to 0.03 dollars per $10.00 or three cents per ten dollars, not thirty cents as you incorrectly stated. Don’t do math tricks without your calculator if your not good at math in your head…

  13. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Sorry Einstein but a 0.3% tax would amount to 0.03 dollars per $10.00 or three cents per ten dollars, not thirty cents as you incorrectly stated. Don’t do math tricks without your calculator if your not good at math in your head…

    Uhhm, SP, last I checked 0.3% of 10 dollars in 30 cents. Of course, when you slide the 3 over into the 1/100ths spot and put a 0 in the tenths position… well, that is a neat ”trick”. But then that wasn’t what gloves did.

    Maybe you need a calculator… or glasses.

    HTH

    Einstein, LOL.

  14. chadneilson says:

    Does anyone use common sense anymore? They are adding $5 per year, not raising prices by $5 per bundle of whatever. Instead of saving $500 plus per year at Costco, I guess I will have to settle for saving $5 less. What a sacrifice…

  15. theglovesRoff says:

    Sorry swordy

    I used 3%, not 0.3%, but you get my drift. The tax increase would still be more than the membership fee increase.

    The leftists have no problem passing those incremental tax increases, but have a thit fit if a company needs to make an adjustment to their bottom line.

    I thought the sword lived in Phoenix and was against the Teachers strike and their greed. Why are you trashing me for a math error regarding a tax increase?

    Sounds a little like Kardnos…..

  16. KARDNOS says:

    Roff…..I loved the sound you made after Cirrus schooled you last night.

    It was the sound of one hand clapping….

    Now…. .03% of $10 is 3 cents

    You use .003 to factor when you are talking about “3/10ths of one percent”

    Those that have done business budgets know this kind of stuff. Those who let the cash register tell them how much change to return, don’t know this stuff.

    Roff and Vox….a pair to draw to……

  17. KARDNOS says:

    Last time I checked, I haven’t had an increase in dues at Costco since FOREVER.

    I don’t think I’ll have a hemmorage over it

    Todd Hall has the right idea….make up for it with the free samples!!!

  18. denismenis says:

    Costco would have to do a heck of a lot more to distance me.

    I got my dividend this month.
    They treat their employees well.
    They have the stuff I need.
    At good prices.
    Going there is like a social event.

    Wal Mart is a far-distant finisher with this shopper, even after KMart and Target.

  19. denismenis says:

    “I put a clean shirt on, didn’t I?”
    “Yes, you did, dear.”
    “We got in the car and went out, didn’t we?”
    Yes, we did, dear.”
    “I took you out for a meal, didn’t I?”
    “Yes, dear – but a trip to Costco is not a date”…

    -“Pickles” Comic Strip

  20. LarryFine says:

    Well Peg, how do you feel about the potential of an annual increase of $60 dollars for your car tabs??? which, btw , is what spurred the TEA party.

  21. KARDNOS says:

    “How do they expect me to pay $60 for tabs when I’m on Social Security and Medicare?”

    Damned government!

  22. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    theglovesaeRoff says: … the 0.3% sales tax increase that the lefties wanted…

    SwordofPerseussays: … a 0.3% tax would amount to 0.03 dollars per $10.00…

    So… Kardy, your math has .3 of 10 @ .03 too? Remind me never to do a large cash transaction with you.

    It seems both SP and gloves were off by a decimal point. You, on the other hand, are off by tens of integers.

  23. How interesting that comments turn into arguments between each other – hmmmmmmmmmmm

  24. Peg- your ignorance of how reality works is staggering.

    Costco- I strongly recommend you begin lawfully selling rifles and ammo to expand your product base. You guys are really missing out on a booming industry.

  25. harleyrider1 says:

    Peg,
    $5 is saved when you probably make a $50 purchase or more at Costco. You then continue to save for the entire year.

    If you only shop there one time and you spend less than $50 for the whole year – you’re right Peg, it’s too much for you. What the heck were you thinking shopping at Costco anyway if that is all you spend all year?

    Costco is a great company, pays and treats its employees and members quite well. The fact that stock holders would like to see a profit? Very reasonable. We do live in America Peg. We are trying to get companies and share holders -as well as consumers – healthy again.

    Go after your Governor and the $600-million give-away she gave the tribes in this state. There’s your five-bucks.

  26. scott0962 says:

    Grow up and stop being so naive. Corporations do not exist to do good, they are in business to make money.

  27. “Go after your Governor and the $600-million give-away she gave the tribes in this state.”

    ANOTHER Conservative misrepresentation of the facts. Why do they perpetrate this lie?

  28. “Costco- I strongly recommend you begin lawfully selling rifles and ammo to expand your product base.”

    And put the fine “small businessman” out of business because they can’t compete with Costco’s purchasing power? Oh….I’d love to see THAT fight.

    Fortunately, Costco wouldn’t have guns being “stolen” and would probably follow the laws concerning purchases.

    Hey…this idea is getting REALLY good….

  29. commoncents says:

    First let me say I’m not worried about the $5 increase. Coming on the heels of high profit announcement I’d say it’s bad PR but I’m ok with it. But let’s get real, folks. This is not so that the stockholders can make a profit. It’s so they can make a larger profit. And no, we don’t necessarily want all of our stocks to appreciate in value. Some of us would like a nice stable dividend paying stock that. Growth stocks do not trump value stocks in a market such as the one that we are in.

    that being said…Vox. Seriously? Do the math again…and let’s be clear here it’s .3% of $10 not 3% of $10. I’ll even help you (((3/10)/100)*10)

    Normally wouldn’t have commented on a math error but you were so vocal about others being wrong.

  30. commoncents says:

    sorry – one too many “that”

  31. I’m sorry Ms. Davidson, but I don’t see the problem here. If you don’t shop costco you don’t have any problems.

  32. firemannotfirefighter says:

    WOW, really? Corporate profits? How do you think Costco affords to treat their employees so well? They don’t do it by losing money. Also if you are smart and use lists, you can get your membership to pay for itself. By using the executive membership you get 2% back from your annual purchases. So spending $5000 over the course of the year and the amount you get back pays for the entire membership. That’s $416 per month on groceries. Coffee, Milk, And all of the staples (including meat, fish, and other proteins). Add into the equation veggies and fruit and cereal. My family of 3 is usually within 10 dollars of paying for my membership every year.

    The people on here that cry and moan about Costco do so because they get the basic membership and then spend to much buying crap they don’t need. Pay attention to what you buy, build a budget and follow a plan and a simple list. Being halfway smart with your money and you can more than makeup for the price of the membership.

    The people that want something for free and never accept when the costs go up or are unable to follow simple planning need to pull their head out of the clouds and come back down to the real world.

  33. concernedtacoma7 says:

    Hey Kard, maybe Holder can give Costco’s guns to Mexican drug lords. Follow those laws.

    Funny how Costco is OK in terms of PPP in your eyes but Walmart is the devil. Hypocrite.

  34. alindasue says:

    theglovesRoff said, “I used 3%, not 0.3%, but you get my drift. The tax increase would still be more than the membership fee increase.”

    The proposed tax increase was 0.03% (not 3%, not .3%) which equals 3 cents ($0.03) on a $10 purchase. You would have to spend thousands of dollars for the proposed sales tax increase to have been equal to the $5 Costco membership increase.

    firemannotfirefighter said, “The people on here that cry and moan about Costco do so because they get the basic membership and then spend to much buying crap they don’t need.”

    I get the basic membership because I don’t spend enough in Costco to justify the extra $50 for the executive membership – even with the cash-back rebate. However, the products I buy cheaply in bulk there (yes, we really do go through 6 heads of romaine lettuce in less than a week) and the foods I buy there because I don’t find the same product at the same quality elsewhere (such as their excellent pumpkin pies), do justify paying $50 – or $55 – per year for the basic membership.

  35. beerBoy says:

    Wow ct7! Really nice stab at bringing a thread about a chain of stores to the latest outrage du jour with the Obama Administration!

    Yes, Fast and Furious was a complete screw-up and should have never happened…..but c’mon……a whiny letter about Costco raising its membership fee shouldn’t lead that far astray.

    Again – youse guys who complain about KARDNOS are very actively baiting him to respond in exactly the same way you complain that he does – and then you start talking about “flinging mud” or “living under a bridge”.

  36. theglovesRoff says:

    Not to keep bringing up my original mistake, but you are also incorrect alindasue. See the following:

    …This propo- sition would authorize PierceTransit to impose an additional three-tenths of one percent (0.3%) sales and use tax…

    From the Pierce County Voters Guide fro the Feb 2011 special election.

    http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/xml/abtus/ourorg/aud/elections/archives/feb2011/2011februaryvpweb.pdf

  37. theglovesRoff says:

    beerBoy, in case you missed the comment from karnitos on 10/7 @ 10:42 AM.

    KARDNOS says:
    OCTOBER 7, 2011 AT 10:42 AM

    Fortunately, Costco wouldn’t have guns being “stolen” and would probably follow the laws concerning purchases.

    So he was the first one to throw a tangent to “the latest outrage du jour with the Obama Administration!”

  38. JessicaW71970 says:

    I’m not worried about Costco raising my membership by a whopping $5.00 per year, it’s just silly to complain, at Costco you can buy the same jeans for $26.99 that are sold at Macy*s for well over $80.00, bulk lunch items for your lunch boxes and some of the best roast chicken… you can get your gas cheaper and new tires, what is the problem here, the staff is always helpful and friendly, I will gladly pay an additional $5.00 per year to keep it that way… You get what you pay for, I pay for friendly service and get it… In bulk.

  39. xx98411 says:

    Classic response bb, jeeze we dont bait the dude, he does it all by himself… we don’t have to but we push back and we are the a-holes… please

    Go clean your nose and come back with something other than a defense for the indefensable.

  40. LarryFine says:

    … nice catch gloves… another example of Bb’s selective outrage.

  41. KARDNOS says:

    theglovesRoff says:
    October 8, 2011 at 7:28 am
    beerBoy, in case you missed the comment from karnitos on 10/7 @ 10:42 AM.

    KARDNOS says:
    OCTOBER 7, 2011 AT 10:42 AM

    Fortunately, Costco wouldn’t have guns being “stolen” and would probably follow the laws concerning purchases.

    So he was the first one to throw a tangent to “the latest outrage du jour with the Obama Administration!”

    ….uh no. I was talking about the “local gun shop” whose owner claims the DC sniper’s weapon of choice was “stolen”…..

    Not much of a local historian, are you?

  42. KARDNOS says:

    beerBoy…..no need to defend me…..They don’t even have a clue as to what the subject is and they’re claiming I’m off topic……..LOL

  43. KARDNOS says:

    Can we go back to “Roff” and “Vox” explaining how NOT to use decimals as fractions?

  44. KARDNOS says:

    “…This propo- sition would authorize PierceTransit to impose an additional three-tenths of one percent (0.3%) sales and use tax…”

    which is factored as .003 when using a decimal equation

    .03 is 3 percent…….003 is 3/10ths of one percent

  45. stetsonwalker says:

    I prefer SAM’s club for the better selection, but Auburn is too far to drive…

  46. defense for the indefensable.

    sez the guy who is constantly defending a guy who has stated on more than one occasion that his entire reason for being here is to annoy “liberals”……

    Hello Pot, nice covering of soot you got going!

  47. klthompson says:

    Most of the anti corporation rhetoric surfacing in these blogs causes me to wonder if those making the remarks are members of a union, government employees, contributors to an IRA, etc. If so, take a close look to see where your contribution is being invested. If you are going to throw bricks take a look at your target.

  48. “sez the guy who is constantly defending a guy who has stated on more than one occasion that his entire reason for being here is to annoy “liberals”……”

    I don’t defend a dang person on this board, you say it, you own it, you defend it…

  49. nathansgma says:

    Guess next year when my membership renewal comes up I won’t be renewing andI will be taking my business to Sam’s Club.

  50. beerBoy says:

    Sam’s Club annual membership = $40. Advantage Plus = $100
    Costco (new) annual membership = $55. Executive = $110

  51. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    commoncents says:

    …Vox. Seriously? Do the math again…and let’s be clear here it’s .3% of $10 not 3% of $10. I’ll even help you (((3/10)/100)*10)

    Normally wouldn’t have commented on a math error but you were so vocal about others being wrong.

    No offense taken – and here’s my mia culpa – freely submitted so as to avert further character assassignation from the backwards/ forwards moniker owner:

    Mild dyslexia manifested itself, again, in my missing the percent sign… even though I read (at least) 2 posts, and cut-and-pasted 2 quotes containing it. Take away the % and my math is right, but…

    So there it is; something you will never see from the likes of Kardy, bB, et al – no matter the frequency of their… mistakes.

  52. theglovesRoff says:

    Sam’s Club annual membership = $40. Advantage Plus = $100

    Since Walmart is the Devil, I would expect them to match Costco’s membership price very soon.

  53. artiepuy says:

    The point is, he was in fact right. But some people wanted the effect of the proposed Pierce Transit increase to appear larger, so they insisted that .3% of $10 was 30 cents. The first couple of attempts to gently correct them were met with arguments, resistance, and anger. The people insisting that it would be 30 cents were quite adamant and repetitive about it.

    So, is it now impolite behavior to be right in the face of opposing argument? Should those in the right simply allow those who either accidentally or purposely alter the truth to continue in that practice?

    As for the original subject at hand, is five dollars a year REALLY going to negatively affect Costco members? Especially if they have an executive membership, and most of the fee is covered by the annual rebate check?

    Get a grip, people!

  54. beerBoy says:

    So there it is; something you will never see from the likes of Kardy, bB, et al – no matter the frequency of their… mistakes.

    Never is a long time vox. Especially when, just a few weeks ago I apologized to xx for making a mistake.

    Now…..I can assume you will publicly admit this mistake…..right?

  55. beerBoy says:

    and vox – since I haven’t participated in this decimating discussion until you insisted upon bringing me into it……..

    I get that you and LF and others are obsessed with me but seriously dude, I comment regularly enough that you should be able to confront me on posts that I have actually made without having to bring me into conversations that have had nothing to do with.

    And – really, why are all of you wasting your time on decimal deliberations?

  56. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Nope, just couldn’t think of any other leftist hardliners off-hand, in the few minutes I had to post before the dinner bell.

    Not to single you out, bB, but I cannot recall your having ever copped to a mistake.

    I could be mistaken though, since I apparently missed your mia culpa to xx. Consider this a personal apology to you – and a poorly researched selection of examples… specifically limited to your case.

    As for the “decimal deliberations” (I like that too), you’re absolutely correct. Slow news weekend, I guess.

    Kindly accept my apology.

    ‘Nuff said.

  57. Roff and Vox…….don’t whine….

    We’re just playing the game the two of you started. Vox even had to defend his/her wrong a couple of times……

    If the kitchen is too hot…find a new place to cook

  58. beerBoy….I’ve admitted error many, many times….

    Ask LF…I’m sure he has it in his copy/paste data base….

  59. vox – If you ever want to research my history of posting here you should start by asking LF……

    ….though he probably has the gotcha quotes far more heavily than any of the times where he has agreed with what I have written.

    ;-)

  60. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Love you too, Kardy. But if the air in your kitchen is too hot, it ain’t because of the stove.

    Short breaths, Kardy, short breaths.

  61. LarryFine says:

    bB says “I get that you and LF and others are obsessed with me …”
    ….
    Kooky He claims I’m obssesed … I was no where in sight nor had I (thankfully) partaken of the ensuing argument, YET, my name was invoked… by the one who claims I have an obsession… as well as his tailgater snail pet.

    For the record, I recall bB apologizing from time to time… ;)

  62. beerBoy says:

    Well….let me check my archives to see if I’m the one who is obsessed…..wait a minute…..that’s that stooge who has archives that date back half a decade.

  63. Vox…..I note that you are still avoiding the fact that you don’t have a clue about decimals that you argued so furiously and are using character ASSASSINATION to deflect.

    You wanted this game…….

  64. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Get over yourself Kardy. And make that ASSASSIGNATION – I like your version of the word better.

  65. LarryFine says:

    So in my little buddies world being organized and saving a record of conversation is an “obsession”… Kooky.

    Thanks for thinking of me bB. ;)

  66. VOX…….do you know the difference between a typographical error and several comments maintaining .003 isn’t 3/10ths of 1%?

    Of course you don’t. You’ve already demonstrated.

    YOUR (misspelling purposeful) wrong their (another purposeful misspelling)

  67. Vox_clamantis_in_deserto says:

    Kardy………do you know the differnece between noise and sound?

    Of course you don’t. You demonstrate noisily.

  68. theglovesRoff says:

    Hey Karnitos, I am gonna swear for you.

    You really are a POS.

    Wait, I didn’t spell it out for you, my bad…..

  69. You really are a POS.

    I am constantly astounded by the depth of your responses, I have learned so much from reading your eruditious posts. The brilliant rhetoric, the witty repartee….I bow to your obvious intellect.

  70. theglovesRoff says:

    Thank you.

    Back at you.

    Did you find a new job yet? Last we heard the mormons were getting to you.

  71. LarryFine says:

    beerBoy says:
    October 11, 2011 at 6:46 am
    I am constantly astounded by the depth of your responses.
    .

    beerBoy says:
    October 10, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    Has the treatment helped you deny your pedophillic urges?
    .

    You guessed it… Kooky

  72. LF – the difference is…I posted an excerpt of a post that I responded to. You omitted that I was responding directly to a post that included a similarly distasteful question and I responded in kind.

    But….character assassination through lying by omission is your modus operandi. So I am not surprised

  73. LarryFine says:

    Oh… so that makes it ok…

    You made the contribution… own it.

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