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TEA PARTY: Imagine, keeping their promises

Letter by Curtis M. Anderson, Tacoma on Aug. 1, 2011 at 3:25 pm with 50 Comments »
August 2, 2011 10:28 am

The demonization of the tea party Republicans by Kathleen Parker (column, 7-31) hardly gives much of the story. They seem to be some of the very few who campaigned saying they will not do certain things such as raising taxes, then indeed they won’t do them.

Imagine – a campaign promise kept. Consider, the tea party people are not the ones who were lax in oversight of the banking and financial industries whose recklessness were key in the financial crisis.

They did not vote to spend trillions on bailing out the automobile and insurance companies and other firms who were “too big to fail,” nor were they the authors of a tax code that allows almost half of all households to pay no income tax while allowing tens of thousands to be given an “earned income tax credit” (define earned) though a huge number of them have multiple automobiles, telephones, cell phones, etc.

By the way, which of the expensive current wars were instigated by tea party representatives?

Most everyone seems to agree the “politics as usual” practice of hugely increasing debt and becoming subservient to China as benefactor is unsustainable. I for one appreciate those who are standing by their word in opposing this practice.

 

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  1. Love em or hate em…consider the Tea Party a giant spotlight used to expose the shenanigans that go on in DC all the time. It’s been a wake-up call to the people to be far more careful about whom they elect to represent them.

  2. Don’t jump too quick, Curtis.

    One of the TEA Party leaders is known for being a Congresswoman ($176K) that gets farm subsidies and her husband accepts Medicaid payment for his “counseling” work.

    Dig into the incomes of Dick Armey and crew to find others that enjoy the government well of money.

  3. Oh, Curtis….then you have a Congressman ($175K) that can’t pay his child support and the local courts have to attempt to collect. That costs taxpayer money also.

  4. Curtis (and others) – since your gripe is with Parker’s article, let’s review a piece of it:

    “They include, among others, media personalities who need no further recognition; a handful of media-created “leaders,” including Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips and Tea Party Patriots co-founders Jenny Beth Martin and Mark Meckler (both Phillips and Martin declared bankruptcy, yet they’re advising tea party Republicans on debt?); a handful of outside groups who love to hurl ad hominems such as “elite” and “inside the Beltway” when talking about people like Boehner when they are, in fact, the elite (FreedomWorks, Heritage Action, Club for Growth, National Taxpayers Union, Americans for Prosperity); and elected leaders such as Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan and South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint, who grandstand and make political assertions and promises that are sheer fantasy.”

    Did Phillips and Martin not declare bankrupsy?

    The rest of the comment speaks for itself. Accusing Parker of “demonizing” is the proverbial pot calling the kettle black when speaking of the hyperbole kings and queens of politics.

    Look past the rhetoric.

  5. As to Judson Phillips:

    Judson Phillips, founder of Tea Party Nation, one of the country’s most prominent tea party organizations, really seems to despise the Methodist Church, or as he would call it, “the first Church of Karl Marx.”

    In a recent blog post, the founder of Tea Party Nation recounts his recent experience visiting the United Methodist Building in Washington D.C., where he saw a promotional banner for the DREAM Act, a failed piece of legislation that would have provided a path to citizenship for some undocumented immigrants who entered the country as children.

    Such a stance could only mean one thing, Phillips concluded.

    “The Methodist church is pro-illegal immigration,” he said. “They have been in the bag for socialist health care, going as far as sending out emails to their membership ‘debunking’ the myths of Obamacare. Say, where are the liberal complaints on the separation of church and state?”

  6. make that typo – bankruptcy

  7. BlaineCGarver says:

    The Tea Party has done the nation a great service. I pray that they might influence the choosing of the next whitehouse resident. There just is no difference between RINOS and Socialists anymore.

  8. LarryFine says:

    Rhetoric… all 5 of them.

  9. KARDNOS says:

    rhet·o·ric   /ˈrɛtərɪk/ Show Spelled[ret-er-ik] Show IPA
    noun
    1. (in writing or speech) the undue use of exaggeration or display; bombast.

  10. menopaws says:

    Look–I actually feel sorry for those who believe in the Tea Party……they think they have fresh, new ideas. What they have is the attitude of zealots and their ability to govern is in question. Their arrogance toward those who don’t agree with them; makes their ability for the “give and take” of functional Democracy questionable. What makes this country work is a lot of discussion and a lot of ideas and approaches to problem solving. Those who believe compromise is an ugly word don’t have the mental capacity to create solutions. Identifying the problem is helpful—-putting together solutions with input from other minds is what makes government work. Threats and intimidation don’t belong in the arena. Sadly, they will find that many people found their anger more frightening than productive. Believe it or not–they are not the “Messiah” of the future. They are angry, pushy and frankly, not as smart as they are loud.

  11. Had there been more un-compromising tea partiers, the US would be in default and would have lost our AAA credit rating.

  12. LarryFine says:

    Like I said… but make that 6 > August 2, 2011 at 1:48 pm

  13. xx98411 says:

    General questions here for the Tea Party naysayers and critiques’…

    have any of you actually had a conversation with a person who actively (member of, contributer to…) participates in the Tea Party movement?

    have any of you been to a Tea Party sponsored function?

    have any of you been to a Tea Party website to actually see the positions they hold?

    can you identify where you got you view of the Tea Party, from what source, visual, etc… did your opinions of the Tea Party come from?

    do you think or believe that the media in general has an accurate portrayal of the Tea Party movement?

    have you listened to an anti-tea party commentator? if so, have you fact checked what they claimed? was it true, not true?

    if it is just an opinion (that really can’t be fact-checked) do you ever wonder how and/or where the commentator arrived at that opinion. what were his source material? what was his process to arrive at said opinion?

    in light of the wonderful speech by President Barack Obama during the Arizona Memorial, do you not find it disconcerting that we hear politicians and commentators (on TV) calling the Tea Party “hostage takers”, “terrorist”, “anti-American”, et al…?

    hearing these descriptions from these elected officials does it alter your view of them in any way positive or negative?

    Just curious…

  14. xx98411 says:

    “…would have lost our AAA credit rating.

    we still may lose our AAA rating… the real issue is the amount of debt. the battle was to avoid yet another credit card with yet another cash advance on credit.

    we are not helping ourselves with the $2.5trillion line of credit we are asking the world to front us.

  15. aislander says:

    If people with a Tea-Party-like animus had been in charge of government for the last 45 years, or so, we would have no debt crisis, because the unconstitutional spending would not have happened. Unfortunately, too many Americans thought there WAS a free lunch, and they could just vote themselves other people’s stuff. Anybody believe there is a free lunch now?

  16. LarryFine says:

    “vote themselves other people’s stuff” BINGO!

    It’s called greed.

  17. geeterpontiac says:

    Good article Curtis, well said.

    It’s refreshing to actually see politicians stand by the convictions and promises made to those who elected them.

    Great article here from Greenberg of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette about the tea-party. The founders would have been proud.

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/greenberg080111.php3

  18. Why to the Rpots need a Constitutional Amendment to balance the budget?

    Are they so incompetent that they cannot do so on their own?

  19. aislander says:

    xring writes: “Why to (sic) the [Republicans] need a Constitutional Amendment to balance the budget?”

    Uh…because the Demorats always block balanced budgets…

  20. theglovesRoff says:

    I must be crazy. I thought I saw the EXACT same comment from xring in the thread prior to this. Now it really seems like somn-one is messing with people…….

  21. theglovesRoff says:

    xring, go read my comment to your duplicate post in the other thread for your answer,

  22. T-G-R,
    You all keep making the same comments on different threads so I can keep counter them with my post.

    St Ronnie ran the debt from 0.9 to 2.7 trillion,
    Bush 1 ran it to 4.1 trillion,
    Bush 2 ran it from 6 to 13 trillion counting his two wars.

    So who are the big spenders?

    Three reasons conservatives should oppose a balanced budget amendment.
    1. It won’t work.
    2. It won’t pass because it is bad for the states.
    3. It’s a misuse of the Constitution.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/01/three-reasons-conservatives-should-oppose-a-balanced-budget-amendment/

  23. xx98411 says:

    xring – your numbers are way off… again.

  24. beerBoy says:

    Yep….let’s cut the entitlements to keep the government’s hands of my Medicare and Social Security……..

  25. menopaws says:

    Being the big loud bully in the school yard doesn’t make you the smartest………Solutions aren’t predicated by intimidation. At least not in this Democracy. I cruised some out of town newspapers in conservative areas of our country. The Tea Party actually lost some ground with their own base. Some of the editorials and letters were full of regret over voting for this group. Nobody likes being bullied–and it backfired on them. They may have won a battle only to lose the war…………Other people have principles and beliefs too—refusing to acknowledge their validity is the work of zealots–not patriots.

  26. old_benjamin says:

    So the TEA Party adherents are uncompromising? What do you think George Washington was? What was John Adams and Tom Jefferson? Without people who refuse to compromise on their principles, there is usually no change for the better. Thank God for them.

  27. Glovers,
    Just checked the other threads, and see nothing from you even mentioning my post, let alone attempting to refudiate it.

    xx98 – prove it.

    Fberg – that’s because I’m responding to the same misinformation.

    Geeter
    So Al Capone has a right to his ill-gotten gains?

    L-F,
    Wrong again, as usual.

    Obama signed a bill that required Congress to debate a balanced budget amendment.

    But, the President does not have the power or authority to compel Congress to do so and is expected to veto any such bill should in make it to his desk.

    Old-ben
    Had the Founding Fathers not compromised there would have been no Constitution and no United States of America.

  28. your post got me laughing at the thought of our founding fathers attempting to reach a “compromise” on the Declaration of Independence with the spineless folk in the day. Glad their were enough of them to stand tall and proud to birth this great nation…

    From the declaration section of charges against the king dude…

    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

    manly firmness… not a whole lotta “compromise” in those days either and sometimes growing a set is what is needed. sounds like a few in the House have…

    Though and oldie but goodie how about a timeless line to get the old spine erect on this beautiful USA day…

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    ps – the “endowed by their Creator” line has been dropping out on TV lately… nice to see it is still in the original document. ;)

  29. KARDNOS says:

    “spineless folk in the day”

    Translation – if you disagree with me, I’ll call you a name.

  30. KARDNOS says:

    Politicsusa.com:

    Michele Bachmann denounces Medicaid whilst her husband takes $137,000 from Medicaid. Between this take, the $260,000 in farm subsidies, the government job, the $24,000 government grants to “train” their clinic employees, and the foster children state payments, one wonders exactly what Michele Bachmann means by “small government” and standing on our own two feet.

    This is your Tea Party Caucus Leader, people. Ye of little fiscal conservatism and much government welfare……

  31. KARDNOS says:

    “Creator”…….you mean that “Allah” character?

  32. KARDNOS says:

    what “set” did Bachmann grow to accept all that federal money?

  33. KARDNOS says:

    “have any of you been to a Tea Party sponsored function?”

    Yeah. I was in Lewis County trying to do business with the County Commissioners on April 15, 2009. No place to park because all of the TEA Party attendees had taken up the parking for the County Courthouse.

    Sure glad they all paid for their own parking on the street as to not increase the costs of the County doing business.

  34. KARDNOS says:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/south-carolina-tea-partiers-are-crazy-love-donald

    A glimpse of the TEA Party for those who have never watched TV, attended a TEA Party rally or watch everything but FOX…..

  35. KARDNOS says:

    Oh….and then there was the TEA Party rally for Rob McKenna (who strangely disassociated himself from said organization thereafer)….

    Media accounts – 500 to 1000 people attended. TEA Party accounts – 5000

    The media is out to get them.

  36. xx98411 says:

    karnos – I wanna respond to so you don’t feel ignored but… aint a whole lotta meat on the bone here…

    spineless – I thought an accurate perception… ok, you don’t

    You don’t like Bachman and keep trying to get someone to engage with you and your cherry picking

    You don’t like the tea party…. Ok… so…

    gotta ask… why do yo call me out for the spineless thingy but then use a video that is meant to shine a negative light on the tea party?

    like i said, not a whole lotta meat to your posts.

  37. old_benjamin says:

    Yeah, Kardnos, compromise is sometimes necessary. And sometimes standing on principle is necessary. We are at the latter juncture. You don’t get change from politicians unless you threaten them with defeat at the polls. The TEA Party is that threat.

  38. xx98411 says:

    xring… bluntly I am tired of proving it… the numbers are off, period.

  39. theglovesRoff says:

    “xring says:
    AUGUST 3, 2011 AT 11:39 AM
    Glovers,
    Just checked the other threads, and see nothing from you even mentioning my post, let alone attempting to refudiate it.”

    That is because, as usual, it was removed. I guess only the leftists on here can use cutesy names against the oposition.

  40. aislander says:

    xring writes: “…let alone attempting to refudiate it.”

    That’s almost a Palinism. Was that on purpose, xring? I’d be surprised if it was purposeful, since you have always seemed to be humor challenged (my stab at being PC)…

  41. xx98411 says:

    just because a group of people did not want a brand new credit card with a new credit line does not mean those same people wanted to default on the current debts of the US.

    we have enough incoming revenues to pay the required interest on the previous credit line requests… all $14.5 trillion dollars worth.

  42. LarryFine says:

    … meanwhile back at the farm … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T9N5VcZ82c

    LOL… as Nancy PLOsi would say …. “word” ….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSko2ixEB8U

    ….. and there we have it.

  43. KARDNOS says:

    xx….you posted a laundry list of questions. I answered them…..you don’t like the answers…..

    So what else is new?

  44. xx98411 says:

    So what else is new?

    I don’t like or dislike the answers… they are a window of who you are… ok, it helps to know what to expect form you, that’s all.

  45. LF – your “cleverness” about Nancy Pelosi doesn’t make sense – she is a huge Zionist.

  46. Islander,
    I have a wry sense of hummer, which I have to tone down to get past the net-nanny.

  47. LarryFine says:

    “Nancy Pelosi doesn’t make sense” … “word”…

    Thanks Butch.

  48. geeterpontiac says:

    xring said,

    “Geeter”

    “So Al Capone has a right to his ill-gotten gains?”

    Well, he was a Chicago guy, which means he was in bed with Dem establishment. Heck, he owned over half the politicians in the city and the state. Sounds like he was one of your own. And now you whine about him because he was a good Dem. I don’t understand. Next thing I know, you will be picking on another Chicago politician, President Obama. Shame on you.

    But, on a more serious note I would assume you think everyone that has more money than you think they should have has gotten that way because they were a crook? If they don’t break the law in acquiring wealth, what gives you the right to steal it?

    Oh, I forgot,your a liberal.

  49. larsman says:

    xring says: “refudiate”?
    Grammatically combining two words incorrectly…x-ring
    Refute…or …repudiate.
    Is this your pot / kettle moment…

  50. larsman says:

    A wry sense of “hummer”? You drive one of those H2’s?
    Bb- Pelosi a “zionist”? please cite her allegiance activity…can you? (Hamas websites excluded )

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