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GOVERNMENT: Greed is bringing our nation down

Letter by Victoria A. Riddle, Tacoma on July 26, 2011 at 12:14 pm with 61 Comments »
July 26, 2011 12:14 pm

Our dysfunctional government and the people we’ve elected – both Democrat and Republican – can’t lead or work together. This country is in big trouble.

But wait, there’s some good news: The billionaire and millionaire playboys of the NFL have come to an agreement on how to split up their loot, and there will be football this year. Don’t mention that most of us can only afford to watch it on TV, if then.

What’s wrong with this picture? There’s a pervasive greed at the top that’s bringing this once great nation down. Where are the human values that were once a part of our culture? How can our leaders lead when re-election is the No. 1 priority and campaigns never end?

They tell us we all have to sacrifice, but the only ones sacrificing are those least able to afford to. I’ve never heard one person in government say anything about doing away with any of their own perks, some of which are obscene.

I may be a pessimist, but I just can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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  1. Victoria – when the majority of the House of Representatives comprehends the purpose of the debt ceiling approval, we might see that light in the tunnel that you are seeking.

  2. geeterpontiac says:

    And that light will be the light of the oncoming train if they do.

  3. Gotta give you your due Victoria…the idol worship of professional sports figures is hard to take, though it’s probably good to remember that many of them are generous in giving time and money to those less fortunate.

    Still, it’s all a telling sign of where we place value in this culture. That said, this does not mean that the government should interfere with the system and become Big Daddy to those less fortunate, as Big Daddy expects a lot in return.

  4. Roncella says:

    Victoria, Your angst about our political leaders is so true. So many of them once fully engaged in Washington D.C. and firmly rooted to their positions of power and privilege above the rest of us seem to forget where they come from and why they were elected in the first place.

    They have a full retirement package after one term. There Health Coverage is top notch and separate from ours. There wages are great and they get regular cost of living adjustments and can increase their pay in the quiet of the night while all the tax payers are sleeping. They get to first in line when traveling in public, cause their so, important ya know.

    Its time for folks to really learn about the candidates before voting and vote for the person most qualified and who reflects the beliefs that most represents the voters own values and beliefs.

  5. jjohnson67 says:

    You said it very well, Victoria, and I, too, feel the frustration. They just don’t listen – doesn’t matter – either party. The loudest few have taken control of the many all led by greed.

    I truly believe our once great country is in the downward cycle of all once-great empires. Our great grandchildren will have to learn to speak Chinese.

  6. “the idol worship of professional sports figures is hard to take”

    Interesting. Professional sports is capitalism with a big “C”. People maximizing market potential. He who sells the tickets makes money.

  7. nonstopjoe says:

    If you think the politicians are so horrible, look at the people who elect them.

  8. The last time I checked, we still have a capitalist society. Where would you draw the line on how much money a person should be allowed to earn? If that person is fortunate and smart enough to make millions, how much should the government take from that person and give to someone who dropped out of school in the 6th grade and sleeps most of the day?

  9. LarryFine says:

    “Professional sports is capitalism with a big “C” “… not. Why do we subsidize them with our tax dollars?

  10. aislander says:

    Excellent point, LarryFine. I don’t think it is greedy to provide a product that people want to buy, and then to prefer to make your own decisions about how to distribute the results of your efforts. But, your point about subsidized stadiums does raise the question of business and government colluding against the public. If businesses can get special deals by cultivating politicians, it is bad for the country and bad for the business climate, because competition is stifled, and there is the justified perception of unfairness…

  11. aislander says:

    Speaking of greed, there is another deadly sin that I believe is even worse: envy, and one whole political party has decided to base its future on pandering to it. So we have a culture that rewards bad behavior and bad decisions, punishes what we would think of as good behavior, and steals freedom and opportunity into the bargain. Care to guess which party that might be?

  12. LarryFine says:

    “a culture that rewards bad behavior and bad decisions, punishes what we would think of as good behavior, and steals freedom and opportunity into the bargain”


  13. This country could be out of debt in less than 5 years if the Guvmint would place a flat 10% income tax on everyone in this country, and do away with all the write-offs and deductions, but they won’t do that to the Big Corporations that keep them in office. Why not? The Big Corporations move their operations to foreign countries to maximize profits and turn around and sell their cheapazz chit back to the American Consumer without being penalized? It isn’t Rocket Science. If the 10% idea was enacted, and, a 150% tariff on imported items such as lead-based children’s toys or chinese drywall or clothing, food, numerous foreign automobiles, America would be one step closer to recovery by manufacturing their own goods and putting people back to work and looking out for “OUR OWN.”

  14. L_F & Islander,L_F and Islander,
    Why do we subsidize any business?

    Isn’t one of the rules of the Free Market that all business must succeed or fail on their own?

  15. aislander says:

    I completely agree, xring: no subsidies and a consumption tax. That way: no underground economy…

  16. bobcat1a says:

    In many science fiction novels from the 1950s on, the authors predicted an Earth in which massive transnational corporations merged into giant cartels and their executives/owners lived in luxurious enclaves guarded by hired militias while 98% of the rest of humanity lived in squalor, eking out minimal lives of degradation and hopelessness, kept under control by mercenary police, entertained by cheap drugs and blood sport athletic contests. We’re on a rocket sled to that world. And a significant part of the hoi polloi are falling over themselves to protect their “betters.”

  17. aislander says:

    You ALMOST had it nailed, bobcat1a, but you dropped the ball at the last moment. The only way such a scenario can play out is for government and business to meld together, which is why there should be a bright line of separation between the two. It really doesn’t matter if corporatism is created by business taking over government or vice versa, the result is ALWAYS bad for the “hoi polloi…”

    Government should engage with business only with respect to enforcing criminal and contract law. If it does that well, the whole regulatory structure is superfluous; and it is that structure that allows a creeping corporatism to flourish. Separate government contracts from the politicians, police the process to eliminate corruption, and follow the Constitution.

    Government won’t prevent the nightmare you describe if it becomes entangled with business; it will enable it…

  18. Dave98373 says:

    I don’t think this is the Hope and Change that people voted for in 2008! In any event, football season is a welcome diversion from this political nonsense.

  19. blakeshouse says:

    Another load of gibberish from the socialist/ neo marxists. Keep going with the class envy crap and see just where you end up. Your messiah has proved himself to be worse than Jimmy Carter could have ever dreamed of being, makes Clinton look like the font of truth, having never had sex with that woman, and even puts Lenin in a favorable lite. No worries it will all be over in a little more than a yr.

  20. Dave98373 – it’s also not the “jobs, jobs, jobs” that people voted for in 2010.

  21. “LarryFine says:
    July 26, 2011 at 2:58 pm
    “Professional sports is capitalism with a big “C” “… not. Why do we subsidize them with our tax dollars?”

    Ask the oil companies

  22. Larry_Phill says:

    The NFL reached agreement because they are way more competent than Obama and the Democratic leadership.

  23. LarryFine says:

    I agree too, xring, we shouldn’t be giving tax money to businesses.

    Just to clarify, giving a business a tax break is not the same as giving them money… like we do with pro teams and building their stadiums.

  24. We don’t “give them money”. Municipalities build stadiums that are used for other events.

    “Giving a tax break” is code for “giving them money”.

  25. Didn’t the Glenn Beck Tour take place in a stadium built by a municipality? Granted, the tour didn’t need all those seats, but still……

  26. Phill – The NFL owners have a lot to lose by ending up on the losing side of a labor disagreement.

    The Republicans in the house won’t lose a dime of their $175K salary and the financing of their campaigns by business interests that want to see the country fail.

  27. Dave98373 says:

    KARDNOSE- Hang in their buddy….Hope and Change will come any day now…re-elect Obama in 2012 and we will see that Hope and Change any day now!!!—-I PROMISE…..(sic)

  28. Larry_Phill says:

    Business interests want to see the country fail? Now how would a failed nation with a failed economy be good for business?

  29. aislander says:

    So…HOW is allowing someone to keep what he already has the same as GIVING him something? Think I’ll try that with the Ferrari dealer. Maybe he’ll let me keep a cut of the “savings…”

  30. Business interests want to see the country fail? Now how would a failed nation with a failed economy be good for business?

    Read more: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/letters/2011/07/26/dysfunctional-government/#ixzz1TKfVPFFN

    “Our goal is to shrink government to the size where we can drown it in a bathtub.
    Grover Norquist

  31. Wouldn’t Hallburton love to rescue The United States….for a price.

  32. Dave – where are those jobs that the 2010 Republicans promised?

  33. Dave98373 says:

    KARDNOSE- ARE YOU SERIOUS??…Last time I checked the Democrats controlled the House, the Senate, AND THE WHITE HOUSE prior to those elections! Even the most pessimestic person would rather have W and his policies rather than the current admin. Quite a testament, indeed!

  34. Larry_Phill says:

    Norquist is the President of a tax advocacy group, not a business leader.

  35. taxedenoughintacoma says:

    sometime things have to get worst to make them better. The problem is we have run out of other people’s money and the public is aware that spending practices must change.

    Don’t fall for the “sky is falling”, “you will unplug granny” and “it’s for the kids”. Be brave and be bold. Cut the spending and do it now. Don’t by the earth will end on the Aug. 2 deadline.

    They just want to get this done before obama has his 50th birthday and fundraiser.

    I want the GOP to be brave and hold the line. Obama will fail.

  36. Dave – where’s the jobs that were promised during the 2010 elections?

  37. “tax advocacy group” – code for “financed by Koch Brothers”

  38. In particular to Americans for Tax Reform –

    “The president of Americans for Tax Reform is Grover Norquist, whose role as a major player on tax policy came at a time when the tobacco industry was floundering with its conventional lobbying. In an internal Philip Morris memo from May 1989, Roy Marden outlined the company’s problem: “There is a consensus that we have lost the public opinion battle concerning excises. To attempt to regain the upper hand, we need to improve the argumentation with federal and state officials, create new ways to use current ideas, and devise new ideas, new research and new ways of communicating with policymakers.”

    Now, who is known for handing out tobacco checks on the House Floor?

    “In late June of 1995 then-GOP Conference Chairman John Boehner handed out “about a half-dozen” checks from the political action committee of tobacco company Brown & Williamson Corp. to fellow Republicans on the floor of the House.

    “Boehner’s chief of staff Barry Jackson stated, “We were trying to help guys who needed to get their June 30th numbers up, their cash-on-hand numbers up. All leadership does this. We have to raise money for people and help them raise money.”

    Who is the current speaker of the House?

    “derailed thread” – code for “we ran out of excuses for the greedy GOP”

  39. LF – correct your typo. The name is Mr Phill

  40. Since the subject is GREED….

    Why aren’t we talking about Michele Bachman who takes a $175k salary, farm subsidies and her hubby takes medicaid payments for “rewiring” alleged homosexuals?

    How much federal money does one family need?

  41. Larry_Phill says:

    Huh? My name is in honor of my two golfing hero’s, Larry Mize and Phil Mickelson (yes I know Phil only has one “L” but I made a typo). Why, what did you think it was?

  42. Larry Phill…..I wasn’t talking to you as you should know how to spell your name.

    Funny how you responded, though…..

    “LarryFine says:
    July 27, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    Nice job derailing the thread again Mr. Hill.”

    You a clam digger also?

  43. Larry_Phill says:

    Kardnos, my apologies. I saw Mr. Phill and assumed you were directing the comment to me.

  44. bobcat1a says:

    Kardnos, don’t forget the $500,000 loan Michelle and hubby got through Fannie for her home on the golf course, right after she said we should get rid of Fannie. She’s only against government aid for OTHER people, not herself.

  45. aislander says:

    And don’t forget the sweet deal the Obamas got on their Chicago house, courtesy of Tony Rezco…

    And WHAT percentage of home mortgages are now controlled by the Federal government? Kinda hard to avoid, doncha think…?

  46. Please read with care. I did not say there was anything wrong with professional athletes making money. The subject of my sentence (Grammar 101 Kardnos) is
    “idol worship” linked by the verb “is” to the predicate adjective phrase “hard to take” — See how that works?

    This idolatry reflects cultural values. But again, I want to point out that I believe many of our professional athletes are quite generous in giving of their time and money to others.

    The Bible doesn’t say “money is the root of all evil” but “the love of money…”
    See how that sentence works, Kard?

  47. Oh…I see….professional athletes are evil for making money…..like capitalists.

  48. Roncella says:

    aislander, my spelling gets worse not better. I misspelled the word Intelligent while typing in my post back to kardnos, of all the words to misspell “Intelligent”.

    At times my fingers get ahead of my thoughts as I’m typing away.

  49. aislander says:

    Roncella: Don’t sweat it–I have plenty of problems in that regard, and I never criticize the spelling and grammar of others except for that of KARDNOS…

  50. aislander says:

    You have to use a diddo?!!!

  51. LarryFine says:

    ROFLMAO !!!

  52. LarryFine says:

    … still LMAO !

    How’s that for Karma?

  53. Roncella and Islander

    Not only does my mind often out run the fingers, but I have always been a poor speller.

    My way to take a dig at someone else’s misspelled word is to use the same word (correctly spelled) in a direct reply.

  54. aislander says:

    It’s spelled KARDMA, LarryFine…

  55. ::::::sigh:::::

    sarcasm wasted……

  56. LarryFine says:

    Of course it’s over your head… “diddo” LMAO!

  57. LarryFine says:

    … and a double entendre non the less. ;)

  58. aislander says:

    Well. NOW most the last few comments make no sense, since their reference point has been removed…

  59. LarryFine says:

    What’s really note worthy is two fold… the “sarcasm” was so “wasted” that he was compelled to flag his own comment (not uncommon for that poster) and that the moderator actually obliged (or maybe complied would be more apropos).

    I’m still chuckling about it. I doubt he has yet to fully comprehend the double entendre aspect… LOL.

  60. LarryFine says:

    … ok, 3 fold. He left with his tail between his legs. ;)

  61. aislander says:

    Diddo, LarryFine…

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