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BUDGET: GOP trying to put brake on spending

Letter by Ronald A. Petitte, Federal Way on July 7, 2011 at 10:32 am with 49 Comments »
July 7, 2011 2:27 pm

Re: “President Obama should end the debt showdown” (TNT, 7-7).

The author, Katrina Vanden Heuvel, is one of the most far left supporters of everything to the left along with being editor and publisher of an extreme-left news rag, the Nation.

Reading her article in The News Tribune, one has to keep in mind that her comments are meant to assist President Obama in dealing with Republicans and conservatives who want to stop the out-of-control spending by Obama and Democratic congressional leaders.

Vanden Heuvel defends Obama, who has not submitted a serious budget proposal in the past three years. The weak and sad budget he finally got around to submitting was voted down by a huge majority.

Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., has submitted a thoughtful and careful budget that the president would be wise to read and follow. Instead, Obama uses Ryan’s budget proposal to scare the old folks and children and folks living on Social Security.

The Republicans will not let the country go into default. What they are doing is trying to get the president and Democrats to slow down their out-of-control spending and stop them from raising taxes on the very people who run most small businesses in America today.

The small businesses are needed to create jobs – private-sector jobs, not state or federal jobs that add expense to both the federal and state governments.

Its time for the far left to stop their income redistribution goals and social programing and come to the bargaining table in good faith.

Leave a comment Comments → 49
  1. Classic example of ‘Make the lies big enough and tell them often enough’.

    Not a single word of truth in that letter, remarkable really.

  2. KARDNOS says:

    I’ll bet my savings that the author of the letter is a Social Security recipient and would take Medicare if not for VA benefits, or possibly has both.

  3. Roncella says:

    President Obama needs to stop all the dancing back and forth and sideways. He needs to get busy and be honest and above board in dealing with the Congress.

    Obama needs to stop the class warfare he seems to like to hammer away at at every opportunity from his tele-prompters.

    The President gets plenty of money pouring into the Federal Government to pay the bills with. He needs to prioritize programs that need to be paid against those that can be put on the back burner, and stop spending more than whats coming in to the Federal Government.

    Its called living within your means, we all do it. None of us can print our own money or keep borrowing money to pay our bills. The Federal Government has got to stop with all the spending, Obama and the Dems. especially need to stop the spending.

  4. KARDNOS says:

    xtp – I prefer to separate letter writers from blog participants, unless they identify themselves as the letter writer. I see it as respecting their anonymity.

  5. KARDNOS says:

    Well, Roncella…..THAT was a pile of baseless assertions and rhetoric.

    So, let’s deal with the facts. During the Bush Administration, the Congress approved raising the debt ceiling 7 times. I don’t recall seeing your complaints about that. Why the sudden change of attitude?

    During the first four six years of the Bush Administration, the GOP had control of the House, Senate, Supreme Court and the Administration. Why didn’t they control spending then? Why did they wait until now?

    If controlling spending is the real motive, why worry about chump change like NPR and Planned Parenthood? How about digging deep into the Defense Department, who spends more than the next 24 countries combined?

    Why is the Republican leadership turning down Obama’s offer of $4 trillion in cuts, for $1 trillion in revenue in return? Isn’t that called “good faith negotiating”?

  6. KARDNOS says:

    “He needs to prioritize programs that need to be paid against those that can be put on the back burner, and stop spending more than whats coming in to the Federal Government.”

    And if his priorities were social programs for Americans, as opposed to subsidies and tax breaks for oil and corporate agri-business….????

    Let’s stop paying the bills for Iraq and Afghanistan. That should make a huge dent in the deficit.

  7. aislander says:

    KARDNOS writes: “So, let’s deal with the facts. During the Bush Administration, the Congress approved raising the debt ceiling 7 times.”

    Yes. Let’s deal with the facts. Senator Barack Obama opposed raising the debt ceiling, calling doing so “irresponsible.” Was he wrong then, or is he wrong now? Was he posturing then, or is he posturing now? Is raising that ceiling to a MUCH higher level than that he opposed a good thing now, or is it even worse?

  8. newscrap says:

    aislander
    Soo….are you FOR raising the debt ceiling (as long as the president has an R by his name) or AGAINST it (when there is a D by his nname). Which way do YOU think it should be?

    And RONCELLA thinks the DEMOCRATS are th ones waging class warfare? God, how clueless can one old person get? Spend some of that Social Security “entitlement” on something other than right wing propaganda.

  9. I don’t know of any small businesses that have private jets and need that tax credit that the Rs refuse to repeal. Also this goes for the oil depletion allowance no small business gets this either.

    For the wonderful Mr Ryan – his plan would require us to rasise the Debt ceiling by 5.4 trillion before any savings are seen. His foolish plan does not start to kick in for 10 years and this is based on many irrational assumptions.

  10. aislander says:

    I agree, afret, that the cuts should be MUCH deeper than those that Ryan proposed. Good point!

  11. aislander says:

    I don’t believe we SHOULD raise the debt ceiling, newsie; we should raise the money to service our debt by cutting not just programs, but whole departments of the Federal government. Our government is no longer ours, but we are becoming its subjects. It has far overreached, and must be cut back ruthlessly…

  12. Roncella says:

    President Obama voted not to raise the debt ceiling as a senator, he called it irresponsible and dangerous.

    Now that Obama and the dems. have spent trillions in less than three years and the economy is in a shambles its the right thing to do

    Clinton had a good line while running for President, “Its the economy stupid” He was nght about that. The fastest way to a good recovery is to let small business alone, to start a rebound back to hiring and expanding and opening new small businesses.

    There is plenty of Money coming in to the Federal Government every month, the President and the Dems. in Congress must stop spending more than they are taking in. This is not brain surgery, its Obama and the dems. on a spending frenzy, heading right for the cliff.

  13. concernedtacoma7 says:

    We are spending 24% of GDP. “revenues”, known to the working man as a taxes, are approx 15% of GDP. Only one year in the last 60 did revenue exceed 20% of GDP. We have a spending problem.

    Stop the class warfare. Think about the country as a whole, stop segregating groups and spilling the left wing hate of all who are richer, smarter, more talented, etc. Everybody gets a trophy is a failed policy.

  14. beerBoy says:

    “class warfare”……..rhetoric to divide, rhetoric to fear, not rhetoric to lead to critical analysis.

  15. LarryFine says:

    aislander, your 9:25 pm is spot on. You must be bloated eating all those lunches… ;)

    lmao

  16. Given Bush’s spending practices, voting to not raise the limit was a good idea.

    Obama is offering spending cuts – just not the radical social engineering cuts favored by the Rpots.

  17. KARDNOS says:


    aislander says:
    July 7, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    KARDNOS writes: “So, let’s deal with the facts. During the Bush Administration, the Congress approved raising the debt ceiling 7 times.”

    Yes. Let’s deal with the facts. Senator Barack Obama opposed raising the debt ceiling, calling doing so “irresponsible.” Was he wrong then, or is he wrong now? Was he posturing then, or is he posturing now? Is raising that ceiling to a MUCH higher level than that he opposed a good thing now, or is it even worse? ”

    Well….was Congress/Obama irresponsible during the Bush Administration? Just let us know where you stand. Answering a question with a question…

  18. KARDNOS says:

    Now…correct me if I’m wrong…but didn’t the GOP run Congress and the Administration from 2001 to 2007?

    When did Obama take his Senatorial seat? 2005. (remember your “no experience” slogans)

  19. KARDNOS says:

    Keep the lunch. I don’t like vomit.

  20. Roncella says:

    xring, President Obama wants Tax Increases as his solution to balance the budget.

    His spending cuts are a joke, He has not presented a serious budget proprosal in three years as President.

  21. scooter6139 says:

    Why, I do believe the Democrats have offered and agreed to several trillion in spending cuts. The word for this is “compromise.” What have the Republicans offered to “compromise” on? I believe the answer to that is nothing. Heck, they won’t even compromise on closing egregious tax loopholes for oil companies and agri-businesses. And don’t get me started on the luxury jet trip write offs!

  22. Roncella says:

    Hey Scoot, Now is not the time to raise taxes. Unemployment figures just released today are at 9.2% this is getting real serious now.

    Almost all the economy experts agree on that. Compromise to democrats means caving in to their demands and alow tax increases or ending the Bush tax cuts, which would be a huge tax increase on small business owners.

    There are ways that both Republicans and Democrats can each give a little and come to an agreement. However the President has to stop has moving in one direction and then another to please his farrrr left voters who want him to raise Taxes on not just the Rich but small Business owners also.

  23. aislander says:

    LarryFine: Correct me if I’M wrong, but didn’t the Dems control the Senate when Jim Jeffords jumped? So, with Collins and Snowe, the Dems had a commanding majority in that body? HOW many years did Bush have a solid, filibuster-proof majority? Just askin’…

  24. Now is not the time to raise taxes. Unemployment figures just released today are at 9.2% this is getting real serious now.

    Pray tell – what is the connection/causation you are making? There is no evidence that the current tax rates have assisted job creation nor that raising the top rates would hurt job creation.

  25. scooter6139 says:

    Sorry Roncella, I disagree.

    Ending the Bush/Obama tax cuts for everyone is exactly what the deficit needs. Would that be harder on some than others? Sure, but everyone needs to contribute to the solution. (I am not one who believes just the rich should be taxed more. That doesn’t do enough to raise the needed revenues) Do the oil industries or big agri-business need their subsidies? Absolutely not.
    As I stated earlier, the Democrats have already agreed to large cuts in spending where the republicans have not agree to any increases in taxes. So who has been willing to compromise? NOT the Republicans!

  26. Roncella says:

    Scoot, I have not seen any real cuts by the dems reported except some window dressing by Obama in front of his tele-promter the last couple of days. I may have missed some real concessions by the dems, although that would be a surprise to me for sure.

    Remember its the small business owner who would directly pay big time should the Bush tax cuts be ended. The bulk of new jobs or current jobs are from the Small Business Folks all across America, this would be a terrible mistake if the Republicans cave in and go along with Obama and the dems. on this.

    47% of U.S, households don’t pay a dime in Federal income taxes.

  27. scooter6139 says:

    Roncella,

    With 10 years of these great Bush/Obama tax cuts, where are all the jobs? We should be swimming with new job numbers and little unemployment if these cuts are the great Job Creator’s that Republicans say they are. If they are, show me the numbers.

    The 47% number has been debunked many times. At the least it is hard to pay Fed Inc. Tax when you don’t make enough to GET taxed. Poverty sucks.

  28. Mitt Romney – “The president’s time has been spent playing golf and campaigning; he should be spending his time and energy on getting Americans back to work and fixing this economy.”

    Who would have thought that Roncella was writing Romney’s teleprompter scripts?

  29. I guess the difference is that the Democrats, when the minority, didn’t set a record number of filibusters. Right?

    Remember the good old days of “up and down votes” being the quote of the day? Remember how the Democrats compromised and cooperated with the GOP majority from 2001 to 2007?

    Remember what the voters said in 2006?

  30. Roncella says:

    Scoot When the Bush tax cuts were first implemented there was a spike in jobs and the economy both.

    Please explain how ending the Bush Tax cuts will creat more jobs ??

    The only way out of this mess caused by both Democrats and Republicans is the creation of more Jobs, and to stop spending more than what is coming in, period.

  31. Roncella says:

    KARDNOS, The majoriity of Amricans spoke loud and clear in the last election.

    It was no accident that 64 new Republcans many Conservative and many New Republican Governors won in that election.

    The folks have sent these new representatives and Governors to office to stop the out of control spending by Obama, Reid, Pelosi and others.

    They had better do it or most will not be re-elected to office.

  32. KARDNOS says:

    Roncella…..the “majority of Americans” didn’t vote in the last election.

    Keep trying.

    Oh…and the “control spending” mantra wasn’t what the Republicans promised in 2010. They promised jobs.

    Where’s the jobs?

  33. Roncella says:

    KARDNOS, Your splitting hair on not having a majority of voters vote in Republicans in the last election, nice try to avoid the truth.

    I can’t say that I blame you the Dems. really took a good punch in the stomach on that last election. They lost many state governments, and Governors and 64 house members, The Tea Party Showed its power for sure. Americans from all over the Country spoke out loud and clear. You must have been on a trip to France or something.

  34. Roncella says:

    KARDNOS, Your finally asking the right question !! The only problem is you need to be asking your hero President Obama and Reid, and Pelosi that Question,

    Where’s The Jobs, and remind them its the Economy Stupid, especially Joe Biden(foot in mouth)

  35. The jobs are in China. Need I say more?

  36. aislander says:

    No, you needn’t. But you probably will…

  37. Scooter,
    Took the words right of my keyboard.

    Roncella,
    Meditate on Scooter’s remarks.

    If Tax Cuts worked the way the Rpots claim we would have <1% unemployment.
    Compromise is not saying everything but our spending cuts are off the table.

  38. aislander says:

    Scooter6139 writes: “Poverty sucks.”

    Yes, it does, but it is almost always the result of bad decisions. People who finish high school (at least), get married, don’t abuse drugs and alcohol, and get up in the morning are almost never poor. At least not for long–if government doesn’t break their leg and hand them a crutch…

  39. aislander says:

    xring: Again, if Obama can “save or create” all the jobs he claims, the Bush tax cuts could conceivably have kept tens of millions employed. How do you know we would not have, say, 35% unemployment save for those cuts?

  40. Roncella says:

    xring, Your way off base on how to fix the mess Obama and Reid and Pelosi have made worse, than when they came to power a few years ago.

    The only way to fix the economy is by first stopping the out of control spending, second the Government needs to get out of the way of small business and let them grow and hire and expand and open new businesses.

    The only way out of this mess is creating a climate where the folks who creat small businesses feel confident in the future and invest their money once again.

    xring, Obama and his experts have two answers to balancing the budget shortfall, Increase taxes and continue spending. Thats all they have. Both of which have been proven not to work, yet Obama and his experts want to continue spending and taxing their way out of this mess.

  41. beerBoy says:

    How do you know we would not have, say, 35% unemployment save for those cuts?

    Ah yes…..the blind faith of the true believer who admits that – yes, it is really bad under the policies I support but I am certain that it maybe, might, could be even worse without those policies.

  42. beerBoy says:

    FYI – with Bush tax cuts the jobs creation rate was the WORST since Hoover.

  43. geeterpontiac says:

    Good letter by Petitte

  44. aislander says:

    Hey, beerBoy: if Obama can “create or save” jobs with NO objective proof, why couldn’t have Bush..?

  45. aislander says:

    beerBoy writes: “…yes, it is really bad under the policies I support but I am certain that it maybe, might, could be even worse without those policies.”

    That’s scary, bB. Do actually WORK for the Obama admin?

  46. Roncella says:

    President Obama looked like a prezel again this morning as he tried his best to put a spin on the Debt Celing debate.

    He painted himself as being flexable and willing to give, and the Republican as not being flexable and cooperative.

    He set another date for passing a compromise on raising the debt ceiling. He needs to stop with the charade and be honest and sincere in offering real spending cuts that can actually lead the Country to a Balanced Budget in less than twenty years.

  47. LarryFine says:

    It’s over his head Ai.

  48. Today the Mighty GOP went crying to Obama, begging him not to force them to accept $4 trillion in budget cuts because they really only wanted $2 trillion.

  49. aislander – you do realize that I was paraphrasing your statement don’t you?

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