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BIN LADEN: U.S. had every right to kill terrorist leader

Letter by Jake Bottero, Lakewood on May 10, 2011 at 11:34 am with 42 Comments »
May 10, 2011 11:34 am

Many people have comic-book logic in which the mere act of a trial is the difference between justice and vengeance. But this is “cargo cult” justice – tripe intended to make the hero seem morally superior.

The truth is that the only function of a trial is to ascertain guilt or innocence. The punishment is the part that brings about justice, and when there can be no doubt of guilt, there is no particular need for a trial. We have trials even in cases of “obvious” guilt because sometimes someone who is “obviously” guilty may in fact be innocent. But Osama bin Laden was at the point where there could never be even a shadow of doubt of guilt.

Bin Laden declared war on the United States. After treating the problem of al-Qaida as a police problem until the 9/11 attacks, Congress issued the Authorization for Use of Military Force, which is equivalent to a declaration of war. Bin Laden was killed as the head of al-Qaida in a military operation in a war zone. No need for judicial involvement, which is limited on the battlefield anyway. Admiral Yamamoto suffered a similar fate in World War II.

People who think there could be peace with radical Islam should read bin Laden’s “Letter to America” and see his demands. The short version: Everyone must convert to Islam, we must abolish our Constitution and govern our nation under Sharia law in every detail, including beheading, stoning, crucifixion, whipping, banning alcohol – the works.

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  1. beerBoy says:

    Yah sure, OK…..but there is that whole disregarding Pakistan’s sovereignty issue that isn’t so easily rationalized……unless, of course, you maintain that we are at war with Pakistan.

  2. Roncella says:

    Jake, President Obama did what he had to in order to bring bin laden to immediate justice, hats off to him for having the courage to do what had to be qdone quickly and with little additional loss of life, except for bin laden.

    Taking his action by the C.I.A. and the Navy Seals will also send a warning to other muslim terrorists who are plotting right now to get revenge on America for the killing of bin laden, they will not get away to be with their virgins without alot of pain and suffering.

    Through it all America will come out on top again, the American spirit is strong and powerful, Terrorists Beware !!!

    Most folks don’t believe for a min. that the leaders and military in Pak. did not know bin laden was living right under their noses.
    Its about time we cut off the billions in foreign the U.S.A. keeps giving Pak. and its also about time the leaders in Pakis. admit they knew the where abouts of bin laden and did nothing about it.

  3. ItalianSpring says:

    Get ready for the boring attacks from the Sharia-tolerating, holocaust-denying, Jew-hating, Obomba-lovers.

  4. steilacoomtaxpayer says:

    Italian Spring, no one on earth, with good reality testing, can possibly understand your drivel. I agree with you, Roncella, Osama declares war on the US and hides in a non combatant country. So what? Kill him, done! BeerBoy what can I say, you just make no sense, keep drinkin’ and hold the stinkin’.

  5. Beerboy I am confused by your comment – are you actually making a statement against the Bobo Administration?

  6. wlake: I would never speak for bb, I do understand that killing Bin Laden makes us feel warm and fuzzy, but doing it in the way we did will only breed more Bin Ladens. Do you have any idea of the local reaction when we invaded Pakistani territory? It was not one, that indicated we had won any hearts and minds. Of course I’m glad he is gone, but believing it is a long term solution is wrong headed.

  7. beerBoy says:

    Wendy, if you had been actually paying attention for the past two years, you would know that I have made many statements critical of the current Administration.

    steillacoom – explain what doesn’t make sense. Do you not understand the concept of sovereignty?

  8. ItalianSpring says:

    An Indian (east) friend of mine tells me he is “100%” sure the Pakies knew OBL was in their country, and they were actively protecting him.

    By the way steilacoomtax, I happen to know many who understand and agree with my “drivel” and I have archived their comments proving it. Just because you don’t believe it, doesn’t make it so.

  9. LarryFine says:

    I’m glad Obama adopted Bush’s policies concerning BinLaden…

    “Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done.” — George W. Bush, 9/20/01

  10. beerBoy says:

    RE: W

    As James Brown sang:
    Sayin’ it and Doin’ it
    Ain’t the Same Thing

    But…..just as W propped up sagging poll numbers during his first term by becoming a war president, Obama has done the same thing.

  11. L-F,

    Bush: “Truly not concerned about bin Laden” 8-11-06

    Obama: “And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden. ” 10-07-08

  12. scooter6139 says:


    Uh, Bush Policies or Bush Doctrine?

    Bush Policy regarding OBL was to disband the CIA group looking for him since he didn’t care that much about him. The Bush Doctrine was to hold those supporting and harboring terrorist to the same fate as the terrorist themselves. Thus Pakistan, under The Bush Doctrine, would have been massively invaded by ground troops and occupied.

    I don’t recall President Obama doing either of these.

  13. Roncella says:

    ipsut, It really matters little what the Pakins. think of America.

    They are the ones who need to do some explaining on Why they did Nothing about bin laden living right under their noses for almost 7 years, while our troops were fighting in both Iraq and Afg. looking for him and the other terrorists.

  14. I seriously question the notion that our troops were in Iraq looking for Bin Laden, Roncella.

  15. old_benjamin says:

    what Pakistani spokesmen say in public isn’t necessarily what they say in private. The Pakistani government has been aware for quite some time that the U.S. would come after OBL if if was known where he was. In public, of course, the politicians have to gripe and moan.

    There are more things in heaven and earth, bB,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

  16. beerBoy says:

    o_b What was that in reference to?

  17. beerBoy says:

    p.s. welcome back – I missed you.

  18. Ithappened2me2 says:

    xring says:
    MAY 11, 2011 AT 7:52 AM

    Bush: “Truly not concerned about bin Laden” 8-11-06

    xring, you need to go ask Kardy the correct date for that quote cause you got it wrong. You can pretty much find the where Kardy posted it in almost every letter.

  19. ithappened2me2: I believe it was only 6 months after 9/11, IMO the date is not so important as the fact that he said it at all. Fast fwd the video to about the 2min 50 sec point to save you some time.


  20. larsman says:

    Someone lamented – “explain what doesn’t make sense. Do you not understand the concept of sovereignty?

    Knowingly harboring a ( civil or war ) criminal or self declared enemy of war is something in jurisprudence known as “aiding and abetting” or “giving comfort to the enemy”.

    1) the Paks are blind, deaf, dumb and history challenged
    2) the Paks are lazy and complacent
    3) the Paks are milking our $ while pretending to be “allies”
    4) the Paks are LYING…or…

    5) all of the above…

  21. beerBoy says:

    Tom Tomorrow provides the rationale for giving George W. Bush credit for getting bin Laden:


  22. KARDNOS says:

    What is with “the Paks”?

    Do I smell another demonizing in the making?

  23. KARDNOS says:

    “Ithappened2me2 says:
    May 11, 2011 at 7:46 pm
    xring says:
    MAY 11, 2011 AT 7:52 AM

    Bush: “Truly not concerned about bin Laden” 8-11-06

    xring, you need to go ask Kardy the correct date for that quote cause you got it wrong. You can pretty much find the where Kardy posted it in almost every letter.”

    Or….if you are not intellectually dishonest, you can just google it and it’s all over the internet. Some people, as demonstrated above, would like to play like Bush didn’t say it.

  24. beerBoy says:

    LF is correct

    Bush made that statement just 6 months after 9/11. (Not sure how you think that helps your case)


  25. frankiethomas says:

    I don’t see how Pakistan’s sovereignity can be at issue in this instance – Bin Laden was right under their nose for some time, so clearly we have to suspect that someon in Pakistani authority is complicit. . We are sending OUR people in to get him. The only way to ensure their safety and the success of the mission is to have absolute secrecy, so we cannot tell Pakistan. This of course is all clear as day in hindsight. Thank goodness we were right. That is why it was a “gutsy” call. Unless of course you don’t believe we actually got him. But there would be a lot more than the feeble sword shaking that Pakistan is doing if that were the case.

  26. Roncella says:

    DARDNOS, Try to use some common sense once in a while.

    Kudo’s to President Obama for having the courage to have bin ladens life ended when the opportunity presented itself.

    Dardnos, What in Gods name makes you think Bush would not have liked the opportunity to end bin ladens life ?

    Shame on the Paks. leaders and government for taking billions of dollars from the U.S. while knowing all along exactly where bin laden was living and operating from for almost 7 years.

    Get some help fo treat your Hate Bush syndrome, mental illness, its very tiresome reading it in your many many posts repeating over and over and over and over agiain…

  27. LarryFine says:

    May 12, 2011 at 7:06 am > ???

    Talk about “rain man” …

  28. LarryFine says:

    You must be mistaking me for someone else bB. The quote I provided was from 9 days after 9-11. I enjoy you’re “trash compactor nitpicks” tho.
    Since you seem to think you know how other’s think… what is “my case” ?

  29. Is it only a coincidence that Bin Laden’s shack was located within spitting distance of the Pakie military? It looks like they were there more to protect him than to hunt him.

  30. Roncella says:

    Its time for Obama to get busy and review alot of the countries we give millions to in foreign aid.

    Where is the congress, with all the committees, they have power to call to order and they control the purse strings ?

    Obama is just too darn busy traveling all over the Country raising more dollars to put in his safe along with over a billion dollars he has already.

    The Congress is also very busy taking breaks and recesses for weeks at a time while the democrats and Obama have yet to put a budget together.

    Instead of reading poetry with violent rap stars, Obama should be gettting to work at the Whitehouse calling both the leader of the house and senate together for a SERIOUS meeting and stop with his campaigning for a few months at least and work on some of the very serious problems facing the Country not the least of which is 4.00 a gallon for gas.

    All Obama seems good at is reading from his tele-promters making jokes about alligators and the border (a very serious problem), and campaigning, attacking republicans, tea party folks, conservatives, fox news.

  31. blakeshouse says:

    Well Roncella when it’s all ya got you do it adnausium for the next yr and a half.
    The lack of urgency for all things except spending everyone elses money is appalling at and outright disgusting to anyone with more than 2 brain cells. Another couple weeks and the apologies will be flying all round the world for some part of this and the increase in aid to Pakistan will be put forth by the socialist Senate no matter what.

  32. Let’s see:

    Part time congress – Courtesy of Boehner.

    Meet with congressional leaders:

    Tuesday Obama meet with leaders from both parties to try to find common ground on the budget:

    Wendesday Obama meet with Democratic Leaders to discuss budget issues.

    Thursday Obama meet with Republican Leaders to discuss budget issues.

  33. Ithappened2me2 says:

    yo ring boy, I think the part time congress was set up under Queen Pelosi, the San Francisco liberal treat. She needed time to fly home, or fly her family in every week on the 757 that was paid for by us, I mean me, cause I assume you don’t pay taxes being a lefty and all….

    That was in between finding ways to screw America with her spending.

  34. Roncella says:

    xring, All your hero seems to have a talent for is calling meetings that go nowhere, except to give him another photo shoot, and tele-prompter reading opportunity.

    Obama has deligated Joe (foot in mouth) Biden the responsibility of working with the Congress on some very serious problems, This is a responsibility Obama should be taking on himself, not pushing it off on to some else, while he goes on spendng and spending traveling all over the nation raising more money for his re-election bid.

    In the mean time Rome is burning, from the economy to the Wars, to the un-employment, 4.00 a gallon gas, higher and higher food costs, no budget in over 2 years from the dems or President Obama, what ever happened to those slogans, of Hope and Change, and Yes We Can ??

  35. Speaking of violent rappers in the White House, the transition period at the White House is almost complete. The only things to be done is to get a dice game going on in the Rose Garden, convert the presidential limos to low-riders, install a phone booth and 7-11 sign out front on Pennsyvania ave.

  36. I’m sure those negative racial stereotypes spewed by frosty having nothing to do with his deep seated feelings about race……

  37. beerboy, who mentioned anything about race? Oh….. you did!

  38. beerBoy says:

    frosty – Lee Atwater explained the coded words you are using…..


  39. beerboy, so is that why Atwater played in the bands of B.B KIng and Percy Sledge?I would think that he had a more intimate knowledege of race issues than you do.

  40. Also, again I point out that you are the one making this a racial question. Why do you assume that the scenario I set up has to necessarily be African-American because I know amny white people who have lowered their cars, played dice, shopped at 7-11 and used a phone booth. You are letting your deep-seated prejudices show beerboy.

  41. My disdain for your racist banter has nothing to do with any deep-seated prejudices – I treat old, white men as individuals rather than rely upon stereotypes of feeble minded, mean-spirited, impotent bigots – I came to that conclusion about you based entirely upon the consistent tone of your posts.

  42. wow, here I am reading frosty’s comment and thinking of the olde days in da South Bronx trying to hang with the older fellas fixin’ the fuzzy dice in their Chevy Impala’s, playing dice and dominos while drinking from a paper bagged bottle of what you knew was Olde E’ listening to a mixture of Salsa and Motown blaring from the boom boxes…

    Glad I still got those memories before I get mean-spirited and lose them to a feeble mind…

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