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Letter by Ronald Petitte, Federal Way on March 11, 2011 at 9:53 am with 148 Comments »
March 11, 2011 10:05 am

Re: “This isn’t a hearing – it’s theater dripping with hate” (Eugene Robinson column, 3-11).

Robinson brands the brave Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., as “McCarthyite” in calling for the House hearings on Muslims in America.

Robinson has once again let his far-left thinking color his opinion in expressing views so far left even for him that its disappointing to read.

What King has done is finally get the topic of extreme American Muslims trying to kill Americans on the front burner. His hearings are long overdue. All the failed attempts by extreme Muslim terrorists to cause death and destruction in America are what happened right before the 9/11 attack by Muslim terrorists.

It should be welcomed by all Americans to have these hearings and find out exactly what’s been going on to get American-born Muslims to turn against Americans, how hate has been fostered and implanted in the minds of these mostly young Muslim men.

Since announcing his hearings, King has been attacked by the left in the media and most cable channels. They seem to be more concerned with protecting the Muslims who are trying to cause another 9/11 or worse.

Hopefully, this time – thanks to the hearings – America will not have to live through another attack.

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  1. It is very disheartening to read letters like this. The King stunt and it’s approval by many who claim to be patriotic Americans are in total and complete opposition to what this country is supposed to stand for. Freedom, liberty and equality are not on display at Mr. king’s hearing. Mr. Robinson has it correct.

  2. Right on Ronald.

    The KKK and it’s like are kept in check by the greater number who abhor their hatred and are persistent in their condemnation. It is a given that blacks, Jews, and others have a vested interest in the negative opinion of “white supremacy” groups – and that their condemnation keeps them under their rocks (even though it still pops up at times).

    The main reason such groups are so maligned and restrained from overt violent behavior is that it is the majority of whites who malign them so vehemently. I seriously doubt that would be the case if only blacks, Jews, or other minorities were the only ones speaking out against them.

    I can believe that the overwhelming majority of American Muslims would not foster or endorse radical and violent elements of their religion. But like just like the majority of whites would have no part of the KKK, it is expected that this vast majority of Muslims must be expected to castigate, repeatedly, and evermore repeatedly, every instance of terror performed by radical Muslim elements. They are the ones who must be on the alert – who can first see any radicalism creeping into their Mosques or impressionable youth.

    To do anything less would only fuel more suspicion from those who have a more harmful agenda towards Muslims in general.

    If there was a hearing about the danger of white supremacy groups, you wouldn’t be hearing an outcry that it is unfair to white Americans. The protests of Muslims over a real threat can only playing into the hands and minds of those who already are suspicious of their religion,

  3. Hopefully, this time – thanks to the hearings – America will not have to live through another attack.

    Gee…..those political hearing sure do great things!

  4. ItalianSpring says:

    I despise people who hate the USA.

  5. All dictatorships need two enemies, one external and one internal, preferable one and the same. Ours used to be the USSR and International Communism. Now it is forging and domestic Muslin Terrorists.

    PS: IMO we already know what King’s findings well be.

  6. It’s one thing to try and understand what motives drive someone into terrorism against this country, and have a discussion..
    It’s another thing when people start generalizing and saying that Muslims altogether are dangerous, like many on the right have done…over and over and over again.

    Let’s all keep in mind that we need to be afraid. It’s good for us, right? We should all start living our lives like we’re going to be attacked at any second, should verbally (and sometimes physically) attack anyone that would interfere with our version of self-protection, and demonize Americans because of their religious beliefs.

    Because we’re not really Americans until we step on someone.

  7. JudasEscargot says:

    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/terror02_05

    Islamic Terrorists are responsible for 6% of the terror attacks on US soil.

    King is playing to the low information crowd……AGAIN.

    And they fell for it……AGAIN.

  8. I totally agree Ronald. I believe that Rep. King will continue his efforts to uncover the scheming that’s been goIng on between the terrorists and the leftists in this country. Why is it that the left is so afraid of having these hearings? Something to hide? They don’t mind investigating a few skinheads hanging out on a street corner, the Southern Poverty Law Center, a bunch of criminals, and anti-American scum, will go to any length to condemn anything resembling white racism, which is also reprehensible, but totally defend the Black Panthers, Islamists, and other dirt bags who want to overthrow this country. Go for the gusto Rep. King and shine some light on these rats.

  9. menopaws says:

    The left isn’t “afraid” of the hearings……….Been there, done that and his name was Joseph McCarthy……those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The Republicans continue to court the “fear and loathing” base……..Let’s just say that courtesy of Mr. King—I now understand what “loathing” means!! When you become your enemy you cease to be part of the deep integrity that rules this country…….I keep forgetting that we refuse to recognize our own faults—always need someplace else to park our stupidity and vanity…….Used to blame the Irish, the Italians, the blacks, the Communists……now it’s the Muslims………We never seem to learn to handle our own problems with creating a villian, do we? Bunch of radical nutcases harmed us and now the whole religion is under siege…….So much for the Constitution………..

  10. It seems to me that many who support King’s kangaroo kourt “know” the “facts” already.

  11. menopaws, yeah, the Irish, Italians, and the blacks flew airliners full of people into buildings. How did I miss that? Yeah, it was an Irish army major who shot up the place at Fort Hood. How did I miss that? Yeah, it was an Italian who tried to blow up an airliner with a shoe bomb, yeah, it was a black American who blew up an airliner over Scotland, yeah, it was an Irish mother who blew herself up and an Italian who attempted the Times Square bombing. Yeah menopaws, take your meds and get some rest.

  12. frosty – to repeat Judas’ info:

    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/terror02_05

    Islamic Terrorists are responsible for 6% of the terror attacks on US soil.

    So, if 84% of terrorist activity on US soil is done by non-Muslims, some of them must be “Irish, Italians, and the blacks”

    “the blacks”……quaint……reminiscent of the old days before desegregation took hold.

  13. Roncella says:

    beerBoy, you with your varied life experiences should know better.

    There is nothing wrong with trying to find out why so many young Muslim men have turned to violence in order to kill as many Americans as they can. What can’t you understand about the word, investagation ?

  14. Roncella says:

    Frosty, The liberals and leftests & Progressives are so upset about a Rep. from Congress investaging a constant stream of violent attacks against Americans in the past few years.

    Amercia has been fortunate that the extreme Muslim Terrorists have so far, failed in their attempts to kill and murder as many Americans as they possibly can.

    Its long over due that someone has the Courage, like Rep. King, to finally start looking into what has been fueling this hatred of America and Americans.

  15. Roncella says:

    I sincerely wish that the Liberals and Progressives and Democrats could get just as upset about a Congressman like Charlie Rangel, who has had his hands and feet in the cookie jar for a long time, according to investagations into his dealings. No outrage there, nope, none ???!!!

  16. WAVING THE BLOODY SHIRT
    Republicans have a long history of rationalizing fear and hatred in their base as in:

    Every man that hijack and airliner was a Muslin. Every mullah that said Jihad was a divine institution was a Muslint. Recollect it! Every man that shot an American soldier was Muslin. Every wound borne by one of our young soldiers, you sons and daughters, is a souvenir of Muslin.

    Sound familiar; read on:

    In the Post -civil war era, the “bloody shirt” was used by Republicans for decades as a way of diverting attention from politically embarrassing contemporary issues.

    Republicans often reminded Northern voters that the South was made up mostly of Democrats and that many Northern members of that party had been at best lukewarm about resisting secession.

    A classic speech in this vein was given by Robert G. Ingersoll in the campaign of 1880: “Every man that lowered our flag was a Democrat. Every man that bred bloodhounds was a Democrat. Every preacher that said that slavery was a divine institution was a Democrat. Recollect it! Every man that shot a Union soldier was a Democrat. Every wound borne by you Union soldiers is a souvenir of a Democrat.”

  17. BlaineCGarver says:

    Lest you forget, McCarthy was 100% correct….and still would be.

  18. JudasEscargot says:

    “Roncella says:
    March 11, 2011 at 3:00 pm
    Frosty, The liberals and leftests & Progressives are so upset about a Rep. from Congress investaging a constant stream of violent attacks against Americans in the past few years. ”

    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/terror02_05

    Islamic Terrorists are responsible for 6% of the terror attacks on US soil.

    How many times and ways can the CONservatives tell the same lie despite proof to the contrary.

  19. JudasEscargot says:

    “BlaineCGarver says:
    March 11, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    Lest you forget, McCarthy was 100% correct….and still would be.”

    Thus, Ronald Reagan, President of SAG during the McCarthy era , was a Communist? (McCarthy painted Hollywood with the broad brush also)

    Thanks, Blaine. We needed to know that.

  20. BlaineCGarver says:

    All dictatorships……………

    Xring, you have one screwed up lexicon.

  21. JudasEscargot says:

    Amazing. Ronald Reagan was the leader of a Communist group in America.

  22. JudasEscargot says:

    “Roncella says:
    March 11, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    I sincerely wish that the Liberals and Progressives and Democrats could get just as upset about a Congressman like Charlie Rangel, who has had his hands and feet in the cookie jar for a long time, according to investagations into his dealings. No outrage there, nope, none ???!!! “

    I’m still trying to figure out why Rangel’s failure to report offshore income is a violation, but Halliburton, Blackwater and the Koch Brothers make billions offshore and don’t pay taxes.

    Tell us what you think of Duke Cunningham and Jack Abramhoff, Roncella

  23. JudasEscargot says:

    Rangel inappropriately used stationary and used a subsidized apartment for an office. Off with his head, I say!!!!!

    The biggest issue with Rangel is not reporting rental income for property outside the US. Why should he have to pay taxes on money made offshore?

  24. JudasEscargot says:

    “America has been fortunate that the extreme Muslim Terrorists have so far, failed in their attempts to kill and murder as many Americans as they possibly can” – Roncella

    When you look up the word “ambiguity” in the dictionary, they have the above sentence.

    I just stopped a white supremacist from killing Roncella. How can I prove it? Roncella is alive, therefore I stopped the killing.

  25. JudasEscargot says:

    “but totally defend the Black Panthers, Islamists, and other dirt bags”

    Now THERE is a FOX viewer!!! LOL

  26. Roncella says:

    President Ronald Reagan when asked why he changed from Democrat to Republican Party said the party changed to a point where he no longer could see himself in the democratic party.

    Judas, Explain why President Reagan is so popular among Republicans, Conservatives, Independents, Democrats ?

    I guess you consider yourself to be alot smarter than a majority of Americans in recognizing a Great leader came their way and made history in the process.

    You should show respect for President Reagan as a past Leader and President of U.S.A., who accomplished so much, no matter how painful this maybe for you to do.

  27. Roncella says:

    Judas, I didn’t bring up the democratic congressman caught with his freezer ful of illegal money, or democrat john edwards that pillar of puck, who used his re-election dollars to pay for his affair with an election worker, the list just goes on and on and on.

    Where is the outrage from the libs and dems to remove and bring to justice these lowlifes.

  28. JudasEscargot says:

    You want me to say that Jefferson was wrong? OK. He was.

    Edwards? Just as bad as Ensign! (oops, you weren’t expecting that one, were you?)

    Jefferson has already gotten convicted. So all we have to do is prosecute Edwards and Ensign for using campaign money to diddle the hire help.

    Didn’t Ensign call for the resignation of Clinton and then commit the same “crime” and not resign…..oh wait….he’s not running next time……

    Now, Roncella, tell us what any of that has to do with bogus hearings about Muslim Americans.

  29. JudasEscargot says:

    Roncella:

    Reagan was a nice man. Damned nice of him to head up that group of Communists in Hollywood, wasn’t it?

  30. The report citing the figure of 6% was as of 2005. For those of you who can’t figue it out, that was six years ago. How about what’s happened since then? I anxiously await the next report.

  31. “I’m still trying to figure out why Rangel’s failure to report off-shore income is a violation”. Now there’s a Huffington Post blogger for you! LOL. Tell us what you think of Congresswoman Waters, the latest mayor of Detroit who’s name escapes me, the latest governor of Illinois, good ol’ ” Blag”, Reagan was smart enough to separate himself from the demokrats when he saw that there were (and still are) a bunch of bigots and commies.

  32. BGC, are you refudiating my use of dictatorship?

    Roncella, “Regean as a popular leader” given who he ran against, more like we held on noses and voted got the lesser of two weevils.

    ‘Where is the outrage’ probably the same place neocon outrage over Newt, Ensign, the former governor of SC, etc, etc.

  33. Duke Cunningham was an American hero. Civilians like Judas shouldn’t even be allowed to mention his name. You’re not even from the same planet as Duke.

  34. xring, so it’s Regean and weevils eh? A little confused are we?

  35. JudasEscargot says:

    Ronald Reagan (1981): By outlawing Solidarity, a free trade organization to which an overwhelming majority of Polish workers and farmers belong, they have made it clear that they never had any intention of restoring one of the most elemental human rights—the right to belong to a free trade union.

  36. JudasEscargot says:

    Frosty’s idea of a hero:

    Cunningham resigned from the House on November 28, 2005, after pleading guilty to accepting at least $2.4 million in bribes and under-reporting his income for 2004. He pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud and tax evasion. On March 3, 2006, he received a sentence of eight years and four months in prison and an order to pay $1.8 million in restitution

    Glad I’m not in the same prison with Duke.

  37. JudasEscargot says:

    “According to Chuck Neubauer and Ted Rohrlich writing in the LA Times in 2004, Maxine Waters’ relatives had made more than $1 million during the preceding eight years by doing business with companies, candidates and causes that Waters had helped.”

    But Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’ wife should be able to raise money for political causes.

    Hypocrisy.

  38. JudasEscargot says:

    “On November 15, 1949, she met Ronald Reagan, who was then president of the Screen Actors Guild. Nancy had noticed that her name had appeared on the Hollywood blacklist and sought Reagan’s help to maintain her employment as a guild actress in Hollywood, and for assistance in having her name removed from the list.”

    Aha!!! Nancy was the Communist. Or were they a pair of Communists? Or were they paracommunists?

  39. Judas, something that you’re probably not familiar with is that the “Duke” was a military hero, but then again I wouldn’t expect someone like you to understand. Oh, here I go again talking a foreign language to a 4F, draft dodger.

  40. Judas, I guess I missed it, did the wife of Clarence Thomas get elected to public office? Or was it Barney Frank’s “girl/boyfriend”?

  41. JudasEscargot says:

    Frosty – John Kerry was a military hero and didn’t commit crimes and end up in prison. Max Clelland was a military hero and didn’t commit crimes and end up in prison.

    Maybe the problem is that Cunningham, although a “military hero”, became a Republican who didn’t think the laws were written for him. Oh….I guess not. It appears that Randy didn’t follow rules in the military either…

    “Cunningham was reportedly almost court-martialed while an instructor at TOPGUN for allegedly breaking into his commanding officer’s office to compare his record and fitness reports with those of his colleagues”

    You have a real strange version of heroes, frosty. BTW, I was neither 4F nor a draft dodger, but don’t let that ruin your little fantasy.

  42. JudasEscargot says:

    frosty – the wife of a Supreme Court Justice working for a political fundraising concern and using his influence to raise money is a confliction of interest.

    Of course, those whose heroes are crooks wouldn’t understand the concept of confliction of interest.

  43. JudasEscargot says:

    frosty – just for the fun of it, tell us which chair your butt polished in the military. I need a laugh for the day.

    You MUST have been a non-com.

  44. JudasEscargot says:

    frosty……did the cat get your tongue?

  45. Hey Judas, this is a comments section to the Letters to the Editor, not your twitter feed……

  46. JudasEscargot says:

    Roll_On – so why aren’t you commenting on the letter to the editor? Oh, I know why. You usually don’t.

    Your style is more about fantasizing a man in his underwear:

    “Roll_On says:
    March 11, 2011 at 5:03 pm
    I find it amazing that two lefties in their underwear sitting in front of a computer”

  47. Good old Pete King, supporter of and honorary member in good standing with the IRA (PROVOS) a known terrorist organization.

  48. “Just name a hero and I’ll prove he’s a bum.” Gregory “Pappy” Boyington

  49. Given Frosty’s lack of cultural knowledge I would says he was a twigget.

  50. bobcat1a says:

    Frosty’s theory is that if you ever were a “hero” you get a lifelong pass for criminal acts. Hero’s don’t betray their public trust. Duke was a crook at the end… and admitted it.

  51. Ron – “so many” got any facts to back up your assertion?

    There is nothing about former funder of Irish terrorism King’s hearings that will do anything to make us safer. In fact, the climate of intimidation that is being created by his grandstanding will probably make intelligence gathering more difficult. Remember – we need American Muslims who are willing to share any suspicions they may have about potential threats, demonizing them in a public forum will hardly encourage them to come forward.

  52. Sorry, Ronald, but I cannot buy into your attempt to discredit Eugene Robinson and sanctify the actions of Rep. Peter King.

    Peter King wants to investigate a very large group of people based on their religious affiliation because of the actions of a very small few who happened to be part of that religion.

    You should be thankful that 911 wasn’t committed by someone who had three t’s in their last name, or King would be out to investigate people like you.

    Fortunately, we have the benefit and the wisdom of experience so that can we recognize King’s actions as being just as hateful and harmful and as un-American as those of Joe McCarthy. Robinson is correct in pointing this out.

    You are wrong, Ronald Petitte, yet again.

  53. http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/terror02_05

    Islamic Terrorists are responsible for 6% of the terror attacks on US soil.

    … and here is the disclaimer

    “…overview of the terrorist incidents and preventions designated by the FBI as having taken place in the United States and its territories during the years 2002 through 2005 and that are matters of public record. This publication does not include those incidents which the Bureau classifies under criminal rather than terrorism investigations.”

  54. What are you suggesting that disclaimer implies?

  55. agent8698 says:

    I looked at the FBI link that several people here mentioned. If you click on that link, you get the equivalent of a 100-page book – a very long text. I spent about 10 minutes readings parts of it, but nowhere could I find any mention of a “6%” figure. I searched the text “Ctrl + F” for “6%” and also for “six %”: neither is found anywhere in the long text.

    So let’s start over with the 6% figure: where is it in the text, and what is the exact quotation?

  56. “This publication does not include those incidents which the Bureau classifies under criminal rather than terrorism investigations.”

    no implication to me… this sentence seems pretty straight forward especially in the context of the FBI definintion of terrorism.

  57. lawrencejprice says:

    Even if there is a slim possibility that this 6% figure might be a fact, it would seem to me we should be far more worried about the 94% that fostered terror attacks on our soil.

  58. Roncella says:

    beerBoy your right about one thing you said, “We need American Muslims who are willing to share any suspicious behavior that could be potential threats etc “.

    Now beerBoy, that really helped us alot during the Muslim terrorist build up to the surprise 9-11 attack by muslim men against America.

    Its time for peace loving Muslims who love and respect America to stand up and be counted. Its time for them to speak out against the violent Muslim leaders spreading their hate from their tightly controlled Mosques.

  59. Roncella says:

    Polago, You really have a problem with Rep. King opening an investagation into trying to find out why so many American born Muslims have tried to kill innocent Americans, and in some casess have succeeded like the Ft.Hood American born Muslim Col. did, ???

    Its unbelieveable that even you with a far far left tilt in your thinking cannot see how these hearings could be a way to ward off future attempts of murder and destruction against YOUR fellow citizens.

  60. I’m not implying anything… providing perspective and context… that’s what I do.

    1. during the years 2002 through 2005
    2. that are matters of public record
    3. does not include those incidents which the Bureau classifies under criminal

  61. … you’d think the community at large and “muslin” community, in particular, would welcome such a platform that King is providing to bring to light the “statistics” that refute the “stereotypes” … kooky.

  62. JudasEscargot says:

    “Roncella says:
    March 12, 2011 at 9:52 am
    Polago, You really have a problem with Rep. King opening an investagation into trying to find out why so many American born Muslims have tried to kill innocent Americans, and in some casess have succeeded like the Ft.Hood American born Muslim Col. did, ???”

    Here we go again. Someone shoots a Congresswoman in the face and they cover his ass with insanity, but if the shooter is a Muslim, then it’s a Muslim conspiracy.

    Hypocrisy, again and again.

  63. JudasEscargot says:

    “Now beerBoy, that really helped us alot during the Muslim terrorist build up to the surprise 9-11 attack by muslim men against America.”

    The problem, Roncella, was 54 IGNORED MEMOS by the BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

  64. JudasEscargot says:

    “lawrencejprice says:
    March 12, 2011 at 9:41 am
    Even if there is a slim possibility that this 6% figure might be a fact, it would seem to me we should be far more worried about the 94% that fostered terror attacks on our soil.”

    The “slim possibility” is the FBI records, lawrence and YES if we must hold hearings about about examing ALL terrorism – including the Army of God and the wackos that protest at funerals of soldiers? Do we have to wait for another murder of a doctor or, maybe this time, a funeral attendee?

  65. JudasEscargot says:

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

    Pay careful attention to the pie chart and the qualifying text under it.

  66. JudasEscargot says:

    By the way, that took less than a minute with BING. The information is out there if you WANT to find it or you can take the Dana Loesch approach of “I don’t accept that” (Tea Bag Deluxe on Bill Maher)

  67. “Here we go again. Someone shoots a Congresswoman in the face and they cover his ass with insanity…

    BECAUSE HE IS INSANE!!!! Just the reported history of the smiley bald headed one shown that many screws are loose in the old noggen…

    Now if he shouted “Allah Akubar” then pending an investigation, he could have been classified as a terrorist who has used a religon, specifically the Isalmic religon…. and considering his rantings the observation of insane would still be appropiate…

  68. loonwatch.com…

    oh God Judas, does not the url of that website give you a clue???

  69. judas, FYI my butt didn’t polish a chair. That the extent of my military conversation with a draft dodger. As for the “6%” figure that the leftists are trying to use as an alibi to prove that muslims are peace loving, gentle people who would go out of their way to help a non-muslim, that 6% figure is meaningless, it’s body count that is important. I don’t care if some liberal pinko says it’s only 1% of the terrorist acts that are committed by these wnderful peace loving people, count the dead and injured and then talk about percentages. Save your response unless you can tell me something that will disprove the numbers.

  70. bobcat1a, thanks for telling me what my theory is. Now I’ll tell you about theories, Bill Clinton betrayed the public trust yet you liberals kiss his shoes. He ruined a young woman’s life but you libs think he walks on water. Given a preference, I’d still take Duke Cunningham over a sleaze ball like Clinton. At Least Cunningham admitted his guilt, unlike Billy-Boy who say’s “it depends on the meaning of what “is-is””.

  71. xring, so you watch “Black sheep” re-runs eh? That’s the only way you would have ever heard of Boyington. Yes, for once you are right, he also was a hero, he was also a heavy drinker and smoker and went through several women in his life (some prefer to call it divorce). Does that bother your liberal sensibilities? I suggest that you watch the military channel so you can pretend to know what you’re talking about, like Judas.

  72. JudasEscargot says:

    rr – so the name of the website indicates that the US FBI figures are incorrect.

    I guess if a Republican in Wisconsin says something then they are a liar since we’ve caught a Republican in a lie. Rationalize your way along.

    If the website is called “Newsbusters” does that authenticate it?

  73. JudasEscargot says:

    “frosty says:
    March 12, 2011 at 10:54 am
    judas, FYI my butt didn’t polish a chair. That the extent of my military conversation with a draft dodger”

    Dear Non-Com Chair Polisher:

    Thanks for your affirmed answer

    What draft do you need to dodge when your draft number is 315?

    Are you sober enough to even comprehend the last sentence?

  74. JudasEscargot says:

    “He ruined a young woman’s life but you libs think he walks on water. Given a preference, I’d still take Duke Cunningham over a sleaze ball like Clinton.”

    The affair led to a period of pop culture celebrity for Lewinsky as a younger-generation focus of a political storm. In early 1999, Lewinsky declined to sign an autograph in an airport, saying, “I’m kind of known for something that’s not so great to be known for.”

    On March 3, 1999, Lewinsky was interviewed by Barbara Walters on ABC’s 20/20; the program was watched by 70 million Americans, which ABC said was a record for a news show. She cooperated with Andrew Morton in his telling of her life and her side of the Clinton affair, Monica’s Story. The book was published in March 1999 and also excerpted as the cover story in Time magazine.[20][21] Lewinsky made about $500,000 from her participation in the book and another $1 million from international rights to the Walters interview, but was still beset by high legal bills and living costs.[22] Lewinsky made a cameo appearance as herself in two sketches during the May 8, 1999, episode of NBC’s Saturday Night Live, a program that had lampooned her relationship with Clinton over the prior sixteen months.

    By her own account, Lewinsky had survived the intense media attention during the scandal period by knitting. In September 1999, Lewinsky took this interest further by beginning to sell a line of handbags bearing her name, under the company name The Real Monica, Inc. They were sold online as well as at Henri Bendel in New York, Fred Segal in California, and The Cross in London. Lewinsky both designed the bags—described by New York magazine as “hippie-ish, reversible totes”—and traveled frequently to supervise their manufacturing in Louisiana.

    At the start of 2000, Lewinsky began appearing in television commercials for Jenny Craig, Inc. The $1 million endorsement deal, which required Lewinsky to lose 40 or more pounds in six months, gained considerable publicity at the time

    Yeah, Clinton really ruined her life. Her kiss and tell made lots of money and notoriety for her. BTW – she was a willing participant and was the one that talked about what went on behind closed doors.

    Meanwhile, Duke Cunningham violated laws, is a criminal, was almost court martialed in the military AND spent time in jail.

    Now THERE is someone only a Republican can appreciate.

  75. JudasEscargot says:

    “rr98411 says:
    March 12, 2011 at 10:44 am
    “Here we go again. Someone shoots a Congresswoman in the face and they cover his ass with insanity…

    BECAUSE HE IS INSANE!!!! Just the reported history of the smiley bald headed one shown that many screws are loose in the old noggen…

    Now if he shouted “Allah Akubar” then pending an investigation, he could have been classified as a terrorist who has used a religon, specifically the Isalmic religon…. and considering his rantings the observation of insane would still be appropiate… ”

    – but….if the killer is Christian and says “God made me to it”, they get the insanity plea.

    Nothing like a dose of racism/bigotry to get things going in the morning.

  76. JudasEscargot says:

    Hey Sarge!

    How do you dodge the military with a 1A classification from 1970 to 1986 (when I turned 35)?

    Either the military hero is BSing or doesn’t know the history of the draft.

  77. JudasEscargot says:

    Before rr starts the next denial:

    Andrea Yates (born Andrea Pia Kennedy July 2, 1964) is a former Houston, Texas resident who killed her five young children on June 20, 2001 by drowning them in the bathtub in her house.[1] She had been suffering for years with very severe postpartum depression and psychosis. Her case placed the M’Naghten Rules, a legal test for sanity, under close public scrutiny in the United States.[2] Yates’s 2002 conviction of capital murder and sentence to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 40 years was later overturned on appeal.

    On July 26, 2006, a Texas jury found that Yates was not guilty by reason of insanity. She was consequently committed by the court to the North Texas State Hospital, Vernon Campus,[3] a high-security mental health facility in Vernon, Texas, where she received medical treatment and was a roommate of Dena Schlosser, another woman who committed filicide by killing her infant daughter. In January 2007, Yates was moved to a low security state mental hospital in Kerrville, Texas.[4]

    And then there is….

    Officials at Walter Reed Medical Center repeatedly expressed concern about Hasan’s behavior during the entire six years he was there; Hasan’s supervisors gave him poor evaluations and warned him that he was doing substandard work. In the spring of 2008 (and on later occasions) several key officials met to discuss what to do about Hasan. Attendees of these meetings reportedly included the Walter Reed chief of psychiatry, the chairman of the USUHS Psychiatry Department, two assistant chairs of the USUHS Psychiatry Department (one of whom was the director of Hasan’s psychiatry fellowship), another psychiatrist, and the director of the Walter Reed psychiatric residency program. According to NPR, fellow students and faculty were strongly troubled by Hasan’s behavior, which they described as “disconnected,” “aloof,” “paranoid,” “belligerent,” and “schizoid.”[61]

    but of course, only Christians can be insane (pun intended)

  78. JudasEscargot says:

    Oh geez….it was NPR reporting….that makes it all false.

    ::::::::::::eyerollforMR::::::::::::::

  79. I wonder what the body count statistics show ???

  80. “rr – so the name of the website indicates that the US FBI figures are incorrect.

    No, but it does indicate that the editors of the website are probably incapable of a fair an inpartial analysis of the FBI data.

    “If the website is called “Newsbusters” does that authenticate it?”

    Nope…. by the way that’s not the purpose of the site…

  81. Judas – if a person kills, he is a murderer… the keyword murder… another one… kill…

    If a person kills in the name of a religon, any religon, he is a still a murderer… the keyword murder… another one… kill… A determination needs to be made to determine if he killed as a result of the religon and if the act is isolated to a single individual and/or act.

    I killed my daughter because God made me do it… murderer

    I kill in the name of God (and I am alone)… murderer.

    I kill in the name of God (and I am with a group)… murderers.

    I kill in the name of God (and I am with a group that has a goal to indoctinate all non-belivers and if not, then bang or boom… whatever works)… murderers using terrorism the means.

  82. Judas – Hasan, he might be classified as insane… the “jury” is still out on that one…

  83. JudasEscargot says:

    “No, but it does indicate that the editors of the website are probably incapable of a fair an inpartial analysis of the FBI data.

    Two words – Oh gaaaaaaaaaawd. The damn data is there, do your own compilation.

    I really enjoyed your “murder using terrorism”, which would describe the KKK to a “T”, but the Fort Hood Shooter has yet to be proven as anything but random, other than he subscribed to a faith that Americans love to demonize.

    Bottom line, I knew you’d seek a denial.

  84. There sure are alot of “insane” muslims running (and flying) around apparently.

  85. Judas – Loony tunes site refers to the data, they have no data…

    The KKK were murders, yep… Did they terrorize an area of the country targeting a specific group of Americans… yep

    Random, my brown hairy backside, he planned it and acted on it…

  86. Sorry didn’t paste…

    Judas – Hasan, he might be classified as insane… the “jury” is still out on that one…

    is hasan still a murderer, yep…

    does the totalty of his act stop him or his act being classified as a terrorist or terrorism… nope.

  87. JudasEscargot says:

    rr – so what part of Hasan’s act was intended to terrorize?

    The same part as Andrea Yates actions?

  88. JudasEscargot says:

    Here is a breakdown of the terrorist attacks by type (the pie chart is from the FBI’s official website and can be accessed here):

    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/terror02_05

    Damn. I could find it. Of course, I’m not trying to degrade the source.

  89. JudasEscargot says:

    Yes…you have to click on the link from the word “here” on loonwatch.

    said link didn’t reproduce on my paste.

  90. JudasEscargot says:

    Next, the FBI will be complicit with loonwatch in attempting to minimize reports of Islamic terrorism because Obama was born in Kenya and lived there during the mau mau revolution

  91. JudasEscargot says:

    Of course the Mau Mau uprising was over by 1960 and Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, but a magical elf allowed him to be in Kenya before he was born (thus proving that you are alive BEFORE conception and abortion IS murder)

    Let’s see where else we can take this.

  92. Bill Clinton betrayed the public trust yet you liberals kiss his shoes.

    Nope. Can’t stand his triangulating CYA

    BUT, having sex with an intern and then lying about it did not rise to the level of an impeachable offense. The Starr inquisition was a massive witch hunt and a huge waste of tax payers money.

  93. If there were ‘a slim chance’ that an incident could be ascribed to a muslin terrorist it would have been for at least four reasons:

    To make Bush look good,

    To make the FBI look good,

    To make the FBI agents look good, and

    To allow the agents to use or threaten to use ‘enhanced interrogation techniques.

    And let us not forget the Cheney Doctrine that if there is a 1% chance that a country or terrorist group, can harm the U.S. we have the right to shock and awe them back into the Stone Age.

    J_E, I would like to point out that not only and ‘All terrorists not Muslins” but ‘All Muslins are not terrorists.”

    Rr, what J_E’s url tells me is that the data is as least as true, accurate, fair, and balanced as anything I’ve ever heard on FOX.

    J_E, let’s also remember that McCain cheated on and dumped his first wife so he could pick up a very rich younger model that would help fund his political career, and look good on his arm. She accomplished the first, but not the second.

    rr- a killer kills, a murder kills unnecessarily.

  94. Frosty,
    Newt now claims it was his hard work to impeach Mr. Clinton that lead to his affair. At least to the one he had then. Haven’t heard what the excuses are for the others.

  95. Pappy had a rough time after the war – call it shell shock, battle fatigue, post traumatic stress, or whatever you want. At least he was not a hypocrite and blamed no one but himself. And it was the lover a good woman that rescued him

  96. Part of me college degree was U.S. history specializing in Military History and I find the Military Chanel very factual and interesting.
    PS: Never had a draft number because I enlisted at 17, before I had to registrar for the draft.

  97. Never watch the re-runs, but have an autographed copy of his book.

  98. seems net nanny is birthing cows today. took me 7 attempts to get the above past her.

  99. klthompson says:

    What is a draft number? I was drafted and all I got was a serial number and two years active duty followed by a six year reserve obligation.

  100. Polago, You really have a problem with Rep. King opening an investagation into trying to find out why so many American born Muslims have tried to kill innocent Americans, and in some casess have succeeded like the Ft.Hood American born Muslim Col. did, ???”

    Yes, Roncella. This is a witch hunt.

    Do you have any stats as to how many is “so many?”

  101. JudasEscargot says:

    “Rr, what J_E’s url tells me is that the data is as least as true, accurate, fair, and balanced as anything I’ve ever heard on FOX.

    The problem they have with the site that I submitted is that they recognize terrorists that are not Islamic

  102. What is a draft number + I was drafted = does not compute.
    I was never drafted because I enlisted at 17 before I had to
    register, and even I know what a draft number is.

  103. So xring, a lefty, you are defending Pappy? Were you defending him when the lefties at the UW were trying to tarnish him and not allow a memorial to be put up in his name?

  104. Judas – I am not sure what you want to do with Andrea Yates. It was an isolated act, she is a murderer, her justification is wacky, they convince and the jury wimped out with the insanity stuff. I don’t know what to do with this an I see it unrelated to terrorism and the subject at hand…

  105. Judas – about Hasan… check the following definition of terrorism…

    The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

    Motive – Yemen dude, distorted view of Islam

    Opportunity – was a member of the Army, access to the evil Army dudes, unarmed environment

    Means – simple: a gun, ammunition…

    Hasan used a distorted view of religion and the targeted unarmed symbols of American power in an attempt to further an ideology and destroy the evil Satan – America…. Something like that…

  106. Judas – Ok they like to bomb stuff… I am proud of you using the FBI as a source, I am crying actually right now thinking that I may have reached just one…

    Also – Not all terrorist are Islamic… is that news to you…. Not to me…

    I think I am caught up now… didn’t want to leave my VB hangin’

  107. “The Starr inquisition” was a calculated distraction sanctioned by Reno… meanwhile, Communist Chinese money was flowing into the DNC and a massive “glitch” occured with al (“love story”- ” inconvenient truth” – “happy ending massage” -“I invented the internet”) gore and his e-mail… weird and kooky all at the same time…

  108. R_O: I’m not a lefty, I’m a progressive, I never when to UW, and was unaware of the memorial or the controversy. Had I know I would have supported the memorial 110.
    Rr, what you do with terrorists is treat them like the secular civilian criminals that they are. Religion does not protect you from having to pay for your crimes. And unlike insanity plea does not ever rate having the criminal evaluated.

    Whatio –
    Starr was appointed in 1994 by a 3 judge panel not by Reno, and was tasked to investigate the death of White House counsel Vince Foster, the Whitewater real estate investment scheme, and Clinton’s extramarital affair with Monica Lewinsky.

    Clinton was impeached in 1995.
    Clinton waw re-elected.

    The DNC/Chinese money scandal was broken by the American Specter in late 1998.

  109. “Rr, what you do with terrorists is treat them like the secular civilian criminals that they are. Religion does not protect you from having to pay for your crimes. And unlike insanity plea does not ever rate having the criminal evaluated.”

    Don’t do the crime if ya can’t do the time…

    Just because someones got a screw loose like the bald headed smiley one, does not mean he should not meet his maker via a noose around his neck for his crimes…

    As far as religon… nope no excuse… but a clue as to motive… what drives a person or group to commit noose deserving acts…

  110. What a kooky conspiracy theory there.

    Found more recent numbers:
    Since the attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, Muslims have been involved in 45 domestic terrorist plots. Meanwhile, non-Muslims have been involved in 80 terrorist plots.
    http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/09/king-muslims-plots-terrorists/

  111. “I’m not a lefty, I’m a progressive” , Reno sanctioned it…

  112. In August 1994, Kenneth Starr was appointed by a three-judge panel to continue the Whitewater investigation, replacing Robert B. Fiske, who had been specially appointed by the Attorney General prior to the re-enactment of the Independent Counsel law. Fiske was replaced because he had been chosen and appointed by Janet Reno, Clinton’s Attorney General, creating an apparent conflict of interest.

    Kooky konspiracy theory…….

    Six years and more than $50 million in taxpayer money later, an independent counsel has concluded there is “insufficient evidence” to charge President Clinton and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton with any criminal wrongdoing in the Whitewater land deal in Arkansas.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/09/20/national/main234848.shtml

    An investigation into a $300K loan nets a lie about consensual sex. Sure was a good investment of $50 Million…….

  113. JudasEscargot says:

    “The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”

    Sounds just like the Army of God.

    Oh….your definition left out “imagery”. For instance, there is a group that used to hang out in front of Planned Parenthood with pictures of medical waste, claiming they were aborted fetuses. Very terrorizing for some people and small children, but no “use of force or violence”

    It also sounds like Malvo and Muhammed in Washington DC. But the Bush Administration tells us that there were no terrorist attacks since 9/11 because of their actions so Malvo and Muhammed can’t be terrorists although with a name like Muhammed, I’ll bet there as temptation. Bush, Cheney, Condi and associates must have met for days determining that one.

    Oh..and it also sounds like the anthrax scare in Congress, but there was no “force” used. I guess you could call it “violent”. Again, the Bush Administration told us there had been no terrorist attacks since 9/11 so I guess it doesn’t qualify.

    Amazingly, Hasan’s attack became “terrorism” instead of an insane person, although it strangely resembled the shootings on college campuses that weren’t referred to as “terrorism”

  114. JudasEscargot says:

    “Since the attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, Muslims have been involved in 45 domestic terrorist plots. Meanwhile, non-Muslims have been involved in 80 terrorist plots.”

    Thanks, beer. I was looking for that data.

  115. frosty; dose the term ‘improper and undue Command Influence’ mean anything to you?

  116. The selective memory of so many liberals and dems. is sad but true.

    Apparently they have already forgotten who planned and carried out the 9-11 attack on America.

    They can play around with their silly percentages, and protective defense of a small group of violent Muslim Terrorists who are hell bent on causing as much death and destruction as they possibly can against innocent Americans.

    The extreme violent Muslims got away with a surprise attack the last time. Maybe this time with some investagation into the When and Why they are bent on committing violent acts against Americans, Thanks to Rep. King hearings all Americans will all be alot safer.

  117. mrenchirito says:

    It’s obvious to all the xring and Judas have selective memories. They only believe what they want to believe, facts be damned.

  118. You continue to allow your extreme right wing mindset cloud your judgment, Roncella.

    Because the perpetrators of 911 were members of a particular religion doesn’t warrant a congressional investigation into that religion.

    You provide no support for your “so many” comment that shows that you have no leg to stand on. Many more members of other religions are responsible for crimes against humanity, yet you support singling out the Muslim faith for the actions of a very small few.

    I know that Joe McCarthy wouldn’t have agreed with me but that’s not the kind of country we’re running here and that’s not what the framers of the Constitution had in mind.

    We don’t persecute large numbers of people just because we don’t like their religion.

  119. xring, what are you smoking? What are you talking about? “Improper and undue command influence”. Where did you pull that from? Ahhh… on second thought, I don’t want to know.

  120. Judas, why all of the dancing around with draft numbers? Can’t address the issue directly? If you knew anything at all about military, you’d know that the “non-coms” are the backbone of the organization. Any military member worth their salt would not criticize non-coms. Probably a few elitists officers who never made it past 1Lt. would think that they are better than an enlisted person, but then again, that’s why they never made it past 1Lt. I’m more inclined to say that you are a Peace Corps type. That pretty much describes the draft dodgers in your age group.

  121. xring “I’m not a lefty, I’m a progressive”. Another example of a lefty playing with words. A progressive is another word for liberal, liberal is another word for socialist, socialist is another word for Marxist. Can’t get any more simple than that. If it looks like a rat, walks like a rat, smells like a rat… it’s a rat.

  122. These “other terrorist groups” are not defined. Are they mid-American Christians? Are they Catholics? Are they your average 8 hour a day working person? Or are they perhaps, drug cartels, illegal aliens and various leftists groups such as PETA, and assorted environmental whackos. Are they the standard run of mill anrchist with the black hoodie, black clothing w/ backpack that seem to appear at all anti-capitalist riots? Any way you slice it, I’d bet that they are lefties, anarchists, “community organizers”, and other such trash.

  123. Rep.King might have shown “courage” as several writers suggested, if he held his hearing out of the public eye…….where law enforcement could open up about terrorism issues without media distorting it….But, he didn’t want that—he wanted to be in the media spotlight: he wants to court that extreme base that wants to hunt down and intimidate all Muslims for 9/11……….He isn’t interested in truth—he is a media whore!!!! Pure and simple…….I don’t respect anyone who claims to want the “truth” in front of several hundred media cameras……….Wake up–stir up the “base” is the name of the game…….He barely won re-election last year……..He’s a liar, he’s a loser, he’s treating Muslim Americans with a contempt that should be directed at his grand standing! Watching the idiots praise this con job is pretty funny……………any politician who needs TV cameras to search for the truth is just a sad joke.

  124. Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Muslim religion?

  125. Roncella, and it is the right who has forgotten the nationality of 9/11 hijackers, and which POTUS helped whose family flee the country.
    Frosty,
    ‘command influence’ – the law that set up the three judge panel was designed to prevent the AG/DPJ from bring political influence on independent counsels.

    The only power Reno had over Starr was the power to dismiss him. So by not doing so one could say he sanctioned the investigation which ended before Clinton was elected, hence before the Chinese connection came to light.

    ‘lib, progressive, etc’ Didn’t the army ever teach you to use a dictionary? Or do you just grab definitions out of the mouth-with-no-tongue?

  126. Looks like someone has been posting incorrect information.

    xring says March 13, 2011 at 1:15 am (past his bedtime no less)

    Clinton was impeached in 1995.

    “December 19, 1998: After 13 1/2 hours of debate over two days, the House of Representatives approves two articles of impeachment, charging President Clinton with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice. Clinton vows to fill out his term and appeals for a bipartisan compromise in the Senate.”

    http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/johnson/clintontimeline.htm

  127. JudasEscargot says:

    “frosty says:
    March 13, 2011 at 11:57 am
    Judas, why all of the dancing around with draft numbers? Can’t address the issue directly? If you knew anything at all about military, you’d know that the “non-coms” are the backbone of the organization.”

    WOW! I’m gonna start a commercial on TV about being a clairvoyant. Maybe I’ll call myself Clare Voyant.

    I can smell a non-com a mile away. They are PO’d because they spend 30 years taking orders from 2nd LTs that got their rank in about 6 months.

    Let me make it simple for you, frost-on-the-pumpkinhead – I spent from the age of 19 to age 35 in 1A status and was never drafted. I didn’t enlist because I had employers that were willing to pay me a hell of a lot more money than the military would. At age 35, you are no longer draftable. From 18 to 19 I was a student, thus exempt.

    Didn’t they teach you that in the motor pool?

  128. mrenchirito says:

    At least I don’t have air in my head.

  129. Conservatives wasting taxpayer dollars on hearings?

    If Representative King would type “Why Muslims are bent on committing violent acts against Americans” in his search engine and press “enter”, he’d probably learn everything from previous investigations, that he will learn in these expensive, time-consuming hearings.

    Ah, but where’s the theater in that.

  130. R_O, thank you for the correction. Even if you did so like the soiled little sissy brat bully you are.

  131. “frosty says:
    March 13, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    xring “I’m not a lefty, I’m a progressive”. Another example of a lefty playing with words. A progressive is another word for liberal, liberal is another word for socialist, socialist is another word for Marxist. Can’t get any more simple than that. If it looks like a rat, walks like a rat, smells like a rat… it’s a rat.”

    I suggest you read “The Future of Liberalism” by Alan Wolfe and you just might learn something about who liberals are and what they believe is best for Americans.

  132. Judas – dont like the definition… talk to the FBI

    Army of God – your point? What about them?

    You want imagery… talk to the FBI

    Malvo and his sidekick were good olde fashion murderers

    Hasan – A year after the Fort Hood shooting, however, questions still lingered as to whether the incident was caused by mental health issues, and government agencies still had not officially linked Hasan to any radical terrorist groups.

    Who, officially called Hasan a terrorist?

  133. most every one on FOX.

    ro slips happern.

  134. JudasEscargot says:

    Publico – these clowns are so busy repeating what Rush tells them, that they forget that the “founding fathers” were liberals (progressives) and that Al Queda is a Conservative organization.

  135. JudasEscargot says:

    rr – I don’t usually ask the FBI for a definition. I consult the dictionary:

    ter·ror·ism   /ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm/ Show Spelled
    [ter-uh-riz-uhm] Show IPA

    –noun
    1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
    2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
    3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

    As they guide to the English language, the above definition includes threats which would be imagery as well as action.

    “State of fear” – I’d safely say that Malvo and Muhammed had DC in a state of fear.

    Army of God – my point? Their actions are terroristic and they are not Islamic

    “officially” called Hasan a terrorist? Since when did “officially” have anything to do with labels put on people, places, things and situations as described by the Rabid Right?

  136. JudasEscargot says:

    “frosty says:
    March 13, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    xring “I’m not a lefty, I’m a progressive”. Another example of a lefty playing with words. A progressive is another word for liberal, liberal is another word for socialist, socialist is another word for Marxist.”

    So, Jesus of Nazareth, the legendary liberal, was a socialist, aka Marxist before Marx existed?????

    So the Founding Fathers of the United States were socialists, aka Marxists before Marx existed?????

    frosty must have missed the civics and history portions of education by being a non-com, as opposed to being a commissioned officer.

    No charge, frosty:

    lib·er·al   –adjective
    1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

  137. Judas – considering the FBI as part of the Department of Justice has law enforcement responsibilities for the US, I think they have more clout than Websters, Oxford or Funk & Wagnells…

    Army of God – You brought them up… are they considered a terrorist organization by the FBI?

    Hasan – They are still investigating the extent of his terrorist ties, if any. Labels – you are picking a fight with people that don’t exist.

  138. who called Hasen a Tango – every one on FOX.

  139. “who called Hasen a Tango – every one on FOX.”

    Dude, you don’t believe them anyway, you believe they are crap… so why would you believe this?

    duh!

  140. judas, thanks for clearing up the question on your expertise about the military. Just what I figured..zilch, nada, zero. Your distain for the military shows by your elitist opinion about non coms. The most decorated soldier in WW11 was a non com, ever hear of Audie Murphy? He also received a battle field promotion to 2LT, now there’s a 2LT that I’d take orders from and not worry about. He wasn’t some intellectual who thought more about the school ring on his finger than he did his troops. Again, thanks for disclosing your ignorance about the military profession.

  141. judas, I must of missed the reference in the New Testament where Jesus claimed to be a liberal. Are you sure you didn’t read that in Mao’s Red Book?

  142. judas, did the Canadians treat you well while you were hiding out from the draft? LOL

  143. Judas / xman – The charges against Hasan are multiple counts of premeditated murder and attempted murder. For the purpose of a trial, hopefully conviction and incarceration (preferably the noose, I’m olde fashion what can I say) what more do you need?

    As far as I can tell there are no charges of “terrorism” per se. According to the USC, it provides a legal definition and then refers to homicide…. Its kinda the result of terrorism.

    Do I think Hasan is a terrorist, yeah it appears so. There are enough dots connected for that “label” Once he is tried and hopefully found guilty the investigation needs to continue to find out the 411 of his influence, money, means, etc… Connect those dots and see what you come up with… broke a law, go after them…. Not quite yet… now we know who you are… we are watching you.

  144. Judas / xman – Not to worry, the folks at TNT are starting their work week and soon you will have more letters to spin and spew…

  145. judas, one other thing about non coms taking orders from 2LTs. Although I began my career as an enlisted man, I became a Chief Warrant officer later on. LT’s Cpt’s, majors, LTC’s came to me for help and advice when they needed some expertise. I could even toss in several colonels and general officers. So, while you were polishing chairs and knobs, I was busy doing something important.

  146. Terrorism is the attack on civilians rather that military or government targets.
    Some explanations expand the above to excluded attacks on military and government targets in ‘combat’ areas.

    “Terrorism: How the West Can Win” by Benjamin Natanyahu.

  147. Roncella says:

    Polago, Its disappoints me to watch as you actually defend the extreme Muslim Terrorists who planned and carried out the 9-11 attack against Innocent Americans.

    You defend the murderers and terrorist in order to justify their actions, even against your own fellow citizens including the victims of 9-11.

    How could you justify what the Muslim Terrorists and others are tryiing to do to all Americans??

  148. Well, it looks like they crawled back into their dark places again.

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