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NUCLEAR PROTESTS: We’re safer carrying a big stick

Letter by Robert L. Humphries, Puyallup on Dec. 30, 2010 at 10:49 am with 83 Comments »
December 30, 2010 3:12 pm

No one will ever argue that the pursuit of peace is anything but admirable. It would be wonderful indeed if we lived in a world where everyone were motivated by their “better angels” instead of base human desires.

I can even agree with the anti-nuke protesters that there is a greater good resulting from a world without any nuclear weapons. What I can’t seem to grasp is the naive outlook these protesters have, blissfully unaware that there is a world where evil exists.

So before they abuse their rights as free Americans to trespass the very military installations providing them their blanket of security, they need to take a long, hard, view at reality. Maybe they can’t travel around the world to see firsthand where freedom and security is not a given. Maybe they can’t be bothered to comprehend all the worldwide violence from the comfort and safety of their own homes. But they only have to become aware of all the everyday violence around the Puget Sound to see that mankind is not ready for their utopian dream.

As long as there are bad people in the world I will always want a bigger stick – be it a cop “walking a beat” or our military standing guard on far away shores. It’s because I truly believe that evil exists, intent on the destruction of my freedom and liberty, by any means possible, that I am comforted that we carry the biggest stick on the block.

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  1. First_Lefty says:

    Robert:

    If you want to talk about reality and take a long look at it, understand that a nuclear war will most likely be the end of civilization.

    If your stick is so big it kills you, too, what have you accomplished?

  2. Peace through Superior Firepower is a great slogan.

    But….just how much peace has there been since the US expanded to have military bases throughout the world?

    Not much…..

  3. There are those among us who believe that the world John Lennon “imagined” in his lyric by that name could actually exist this side of heaven, but as you point out Mr. H. it’s not likely.

    I just realized that the term “pipe dream” probably comes from the drug world which is where most imaginings of a utopian society probably have their genesis.

    American dreamers are especially hard to take imo — as we have never known anything but safety and security compared to the rest of the world. We all sleep tight at night because some young GI is out there walking the perimeter.

    Would that nuclear weapons were not part of the equation, but they are.

  4. so so zo…..Jesus was hooked on a hookah? Or he was a proponent of nukes, more nukes and even more nukes?

  5. “…We all sleep tight at night because some young GI is out there walking the perimeter…”

    That brings back memories. Late at night on a B-52 base decades ago with a major blizzard at minus twenty below. The guards for the individual aircraft in the alert area have been pulled and sit in a bus parked in the middle of the aircraft. The only other things running on base are the snowplows trying to keep the runway open. The only creature stirring is a mouse that froze to death days ago. At least that is what I thought…
    I’m at home listening to the wind gusts and a scanner that has been very quiet.
    The scanner comes to life!
    This is Post xyz. Help! I’m lost. Will someone please come and get me?

    Walking the perimeter during the Cold War…..

  6. m9078jk3 says:

    Well beerboy if there is a supreme creator God (that’s speculation and opinion)
    he/she/it certainly made the big bang and thermonuclear stars like our sun.
    Obviously the entire universe is rich with nuclear reactions and radiation everywhere.So a hypothetical supreme being must have used these as useful tools in creation.If you want to place blame,blame it on a hypothetical God or Gods if you wish.So if a Jesus existed as a son of a hypothetical God (whatever) he indeed would have been a proponent of nukes as nuclear energy is everywhere.

  7. blakeshouse says:

    With cranial rectumitus running rampant on the socialist / neo marxist side no amount of fact or proof will sway the “appointed” ones from their ideals. They know all you have to do is open a Coke and start in with “I’d Like To Teach The World To Sing” and everyone will come together and hug, and cry. The next step is to bring out the Apologizer-in-Chief to say we are sorry for everything that has ever happened to anyone since the dawn of mankind. Follow that up with stealing even more money from the people to pay for all those wrongs.

    Only then will all be right with their world…..

  8. I am hoping against hope that you are not comparing Jesus to John Lennon bBoy, and as for your question, I think I haven’t the time to honor it with any further comment.

  9. Roncella says:

    beerBoy, you have no way of knowing how many more countries would have had wars without the U.S. having installations in many parts of the World.

  10. First_Lefty says:

    sozo – only you could misrepresent beerBoy’s analogy so incredibly.

    As I suggested to another commenter, always bring someone with you when apple shopping. Otherwise you’ll come home with oranges.

  11. ron – take a look at the history of US and CIA military interventions in the 20th century…..or even just the last half of the century. Compare it to any other country. There is a good argument made that runs just the opposite of yours: without the US there would have been far fewer wars in the world.

    Is the United States a Force for Democracy? From China in the 1940s to Guatemala today, William Blum provides the most comprehensive study of the ongoing American holocaust. Covering U.S. intervention in more than 50 countries, KILLING HOPE describes the grim role played by the U.S. in overthrowing governments, perverting elections, assassinating leaders, suppressing revolutions, manipulating trade unions and manufacturing “news.”
    http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-Military-Interventions-Since/dp/1567510523

  12. Onward Christian soldiers….

  13. Excellent point Robert.

    No doubt the nonsequitor, strawmen, false dichotomy arguments will continue.

    Without the U.S. there would be far fewer wars… because the USSR would be the world power…

    oh, and freedom? we wouldn’t have to worry about that either.

  14. Roncella says:

    beerBoy, Just what Country do you believe would have become the dominate Country had the U.S. not been there ?

    Would you have preferred to have Germany, or Russia, or China in that role rather then the U.S…?

  15. freakwater says:

    Roncella,

    China *is* the dominant nation of the 21st Century, thanks to your chickenhawk hero George W. Bush who sold them $12 trillion of U.S. debt to finance his two botched wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, all while selling our industrial base to overseas bidders.

    China and Iran are making billions of dollars rebuilding Iraq’s oil infrastructure. The U.S. received none of those contracts.

  16. Roncella says:

    freakwater, that kinda blows the theory you liberals have said for years, that the war was really over oil.

    Just an observation on my part, but I don’t see China having to build walls to close its borders to keep folks from moving there to live and make a new life.

    I think as the new year is upon us we should all be grateful that we live in the Best Country in the World, Thank God.

  17. freakwater says:

    Bush and the neocons were too stupid to realize that after 4,449 Americans died “liberating” Iraq the Baghdad government would select nations with more sophisticated oil & gas technology than the United States, in this case China and Iran.

    George W. Bush drummed up so much business for Communist China and fundamentalist Iran that he should be honorary Chamber of Commerce chairman of both countries.

  18. Bb forgets among other things too obvious to mention, the peacefully small stick we wielded on December 6 th 1941.
    Lefty seems inclined (reclined) to “Imagine” that if the (evil selfish) U.S. would only demonstrate absurdity by dismantling our current defense mechanisms, that Kim Jong, A-jad et al would jump at the opportunity to do likewise….
    .Kum-Bya
    Sozo-I concur…

  19. Bb-Re-read Matthew 24, Luke 21 and please stop publically embarrassing yourself with your superficial contextually tortured misconceptions.
    You have previously alluded yourself to ridiculing the scripture so is this the best you can do?
    Please spend a half hour at the library before high diving in the shallow end…

  20. beerBoy says:

    larsman – affecting condescension doesn’t make your comments any more intelligent.

  21. Condescension notwithstanding larsman makes a reasonable point bB. I particularly like the phrase “contextually tortured misconceptions,” larsman. A lot of that goes on when it comes to Bible reading around here.

  22. whatIdo says:

    Bb againg with the hypocrisy. At least he’s consistent.

  23. whatIdo says:

    again

  24. beerBoy says:

    whatido is my own private radec.

  25. First_Lefty says:

    “larsman says:
    December 31, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    Bb forgets among other things too obvious to mention, the peacefully small stick we wielded on December 6 th 1941.
    Lefty seems inclined (reclined) to “Imagine” that if the (evil selfish) U.S. would only demonstrate absurdity by dismantling our current defense mechanisms, that Kim Jong, A-jad et al would jump at the opportunity to do likewise….
    .Kum-Bya
    Sozo-I concur…

    lars – your fictional scenarios are fascinating but history will demonstrate factually that there is only ONE COUNTRY that has used a nuclear weapon (actually two, one wasn’t enough, I guess). Your scenario reminds me of the standard Conservative line when one of their kind gets arrested – “the liberals would do the same”.

    Amazing magnifying minds.

  26. First_Lefty says:

    “”larsman says:
    December 31, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    Bb forgets among other things too obvious to mention, the peacefully small stick we wielded on December 6 th 1941.”

    and lars forgets that with all the nuclear power we have, 20 terrorists brought the US to their knees on 9/11/01 and still have control of us.

  27. Lefty – The Manhattan Project involved Atomic Fusion….we’ve not deployed a nuclear device in a hostile or defensive situation, what history book are you quoting. Check your definitions for “atomic”, “hydrogen”, “nuclear”, and “neutron” and you might find them differentiated.
    Regarding your “fictional scenarios”, have our State Dept. or DOD or DARPA explain to ‘lil ol’ you why we might need to have something called “contingency modeling”. This has nothing to do with D vs. R or L vs C.
    If you do not enjoy the way that our premise as a country is maintained…we have no walls or fences that will force you to stay…beauty, eh?

  28. First_Lefty says:

    lars – now there is freedom ala Conservative….”if you don’t like it leave”.

    Sorry, there Mon Capitan. I prefer the version of freedom where I get to have a say in how government is run. It’s called Democracy

    I loved how you try to wiggle out of the atomic bombs used in WWII by playing rhetorical roulette.

    On that “contingency modeling” shouldn’t we have a special weapon that will stop the Flying Spaghetti Monster that possibly will attack us from Planet Parmesan?.

    Now all of your wiggling in the world will not change the point that we have the big stick and it didn’t stop diddly squat on 9/11/01.

  29. First_Lefty says:

    The way one can tell when they’ve cornered a Conservative…..

    the conservative lets loose with “love it or leave it”

  30. First_Lefty says:

    Oh….and lars……just to set the record straight…..

    1945 – August 6 – “Little Boy”, a gun-type uranium-235 weapon, is dropped on Hiroshima, Japan.
    1945 – August 9 – “Fat Man”, a implosion-type plutonium-239 weapon, is dropped on Nagasaki, Japan.

    Those two items are listed in the site for “Timeline of Nuclear Weapons” in wiki.

    So much for your rhetoric game.

  31. whatIdo says:

    FL, is your chair a porta potty?

  32. First_Lefty says:

    WhatIdo – do you get excited talking to people about bowel functions?

    Sorry, I’m a happily married man. You’ll have to troll for your companionship tittilation in another place.

  33. larsman says:

    Lefty sez – “On that “contingency modeling” shouldn’t we have a special weapon that will stop the Flying Spaghetti Monster that possibly will attack us from Planet Parmesan?.

    Now all of your wiggling in the world will not change the point that we have the big stick and it didn’t stop diddly squat on 9/11/01.”

    1) Ad homonym conjecture that originates and belongs only to Lefty, no conversational value.
    2) Apparently a twisted deduction that states “nuclear deterrents failed against homicide cowards…therefore…we should on that basis demolish (only) our arsenal .
    Glad you’re not a carpenter, you didn’t use the router today, only the table saw…therefore toss out the router? Make 2 more left turns and you’ll be right…

  34. mrenchirito says:

    Good letter, if every nation eliminated their nukes then we could too. Until that happens it would be the pinnacle of stupidity….unless you relish the thought of being taken over by another nation.

  35. First_Lefty says:

    lars – pardon me if I don’t pay attention to your refereeing job on our game of one-on-one.

    The “contingency modeling” is about the weakest excuse possible for the Military Industrial Complex to use for what amounts to spending billions on the weaponry that will eliminate mankind. Thus my admittedly ridiculous analogy of a made up monster. I know that sort of satire probably exceeds your thinking capacity, but I gave you a try anyway.

    So, let’s examine “contingency”. We manufacture weaponry and hold it just in case someone blows us to smithereens? How do you retaliate when you can’t find your gluteous maximus with either hand?

    My 9/11/01 analogy. Thanks for admitting that all the nuclear warheads in America didn’t stop the largest attack on the US since Pearl Harbor. Maybe, if we focused our efforts on preventing the kind of attacks that we’ve seen happen, versus building an arsenal that will eliminate ourselves as well as the enemy, we might be headed in the right direction.

    Now, I notice that you got strangely quiet about the tie of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the nuclear arms race. I guess the facts got in the way of your BS.

    Oh, just an aside……we all make typographical errors….but…

    In your attempt to appear intelligent, you didn’t come close on “ad hominem”, not to mention the inappropriate usages

    For future consideration – “Ad hominem abuse (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one’s opponent in order to invalidate his or her argument, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensible character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent’s argument.”

    My flying spaghetti monster wasn’t belittling you it was an analogy to demonstrate the ridiculous thinking of “contingency”, especially in light of the historical fact that nuclear arms didn’t stop terrorists.

  36. First_Lefty says:

    mrenchirito –

    So what motivation would the Russians have to eliminate nuclear arms if we required that they go first?

    Next issue is that the people who have done the most damage to the US in the past 30 years have no country nor nuclear capability, yet they’ve been the most successful, not only in lives and property damage, but in continued deficit to our economy.

    The best way to keep terrorists from getting nuclear arms is to eliminate access to them. Do you recall who sold Saddam Hussein his biological weapons that he used on his own people?

  37. mrenchirito says:

    The Russians wouldn’t go first, that’s my point. Nobody is going to eliminate all their nukes so it’s pointless to even suggest that.

    You can eliminate access to loose nukes without eliminating our secured stockpile. Nobody is going to steal nukes from secure US military installations.

  38. First_Lefty says:

    mrenchirito –

    The fatalist approach, huh? Fascinating.

    I think you missed the real point. Who sold Saddam his weapons? The United States. Then, a few years later, he was claimed to be their biggest enemy.

    Now, let’s just think if Saddam had used that weaponry on……oh…how about China? Then the Chinese call in our debt and we don’t have money to own all the toys and we lose our “bargaining position”.

    Both Russia and the US stand to gain significantly by eliminating as many nuclear weapons as possible. Who has the least to lose? The terrorists that are causing the most trouble in the world.

    Terrorists have no country, just their cause. They are willing to die. The least amount of access to PURCHASE of nuclear weapons, the safer the world will be.

    As to stealing nukes………well….I think you need to do a little more study on that issue. It’s the plutonium they want.

    I do think that you are correct on your distrust of treaties in general (I’m sensing this). Considering how the US ignored treaties considering torture, I guess it’s pretty safe to consider that others might ignore treaties also.

  39. mrenchirito says:

    apples and oranges? We are talking nukes, not chemical weapons. Plus just because we made an error in judgement in the past is not a good argument to eliminate out nuclear capabilities. I never said reducing nukes is bad, it is not. But the total elimination of all nukes is fantasy-land thinking and would only make us weak and vulnerable.

    It’s also not just about Russia. If we were to eliminate all our nukes, I can guarantee that one country would not… Pakistan. Some terrorism, unrest, and corruption there? Yeah I’d say so.

  40. mrenchirito says:

    Also, I was a supporter of the START treaty that Obama pushed and got through. I don’t think a nuclear arms race is a good thing, but at the same time we still need to be smart. To be clear are you advocating a complete abolishment of all our nukes?

  41. whatIdo says:

    … just noting how your life appears to revolve around trolling this blog and the amount of time you obviously invest in it. Is sumner your bride?

  42. First_Lefty says:

    mrenchirito – Well, I’d say humanity certainly could live without them.

    When you consider the damage done in Japan and that the nuclear weapons of today look like tinker toys in comparison, what could be the final result of the attack and response of nuclear arms?

    The Isrealis have nuclear weapons, compliments of the US and are real loose cannons as far as I’m concerned. Can we afford to make a mistake like we did selling WMDs to Saddam?

  43. First_Lefty says:

    whatIdo – so you spend your time monitoring my time and worry about how I spend my time?

    You might have your noticer calibrated. Between my job, side business, volunteer time and hobbies (blogging being one of them) I’m probably more involved in life than you, who spends his time monitoring others.

    Of course all of this is a cover for your real interest in scatology, of which I’ve told you I’m not game for.

  44. First_Lefty says:

    mren – since you brought up Pakistan – take a look at this:

    “Through the late 1970s, Pakistan’s program acquired sensitive uranium enrichment technology and expertise. The 1975 arrival of Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan considerably advanced these efforts. Dr. Khan is a German-trained metallurgist who brought with him knowledge of gas centrifuge technologies that he had acquired through his position at the classified URENCO uranium enrichment plant in the Netherlands. Dr. Khan also reportedly brought with him stolen uranium enrichment technologies from Europe. He was put in charge of building, equipping and operating Pakistan’s Kahuta facility, which was established in 1976. Under Khan’s direction, Pakistan employed an extensive clandestine network in order to obtain the necessary materials and technology for its developing uranium enrichment capabilities.”

    Stolen technologies? Clandestine network to obtain materials?

    Obviously it doesn’t make any difference where the technology and materials comes from.

  45. First_Lefty says:

    rmen – just a basic question.

    What good do nuclear weapons do in an attack? Do you think the attacked will be able to fight back or are you suggesting premptive nuclear strikes because we think someone MIGHT attack?

  46. mrenchirito says:

    That’s true, it doesn’t make a difference where the materials come from. I’m saying a country, or even terrorists would be more likely to use nukes on us if they knew we didn’t have any of our own.

    I’m saying we are less likely to be attacked with WMD’s in the first place because of our nuclear capabilities. Most people don’t want their nation, family, and friends destroyed even if they are willing to die for their cause.

  47. mrenchirito says:

    Police could live without firearms, does that mean they should be disarmed? After all the bad guys have them too.

  48. whatIdo says:

    No lefty, I pop in periodically and the first thing I notice is how you monopolize almost every thread. It’s pretty obvious this is where you spend the bulk of your day and all it takes is a moment for the casual observer to see.

    Have fun.

  49. beerBoy says:

    Gosh whatido…..I thought we had an exclusive relationship but now……I guess you are going to start copying and pasting FirstLefty out of context. I’m really hurt, I thought I was your only one.

  50. First_Lefty says:

    “mrenchirito says:
    January 1, 2011 at 10:58 pm
    That’s true, it doesn’t make a difference where the materials come from. I’m saying a country, or even terrorists would be more likely to use nukes on us if they knew we didn’t have any of our own.

    I’m saying we are less likely to be attacked with WMD’s in the first place because of our nuclear capabilities. Most people don’t want their nation, family, and friends destroyed even if they are willing to die for their cause.”

    A nuke, used appropriately doesn’t allow for the enemy to retaliate.
    Now why did terrorists attack and kill 3,000 Americans if they were worried about our nuclear firepower?

  51. First_Lefty says:

    “whatIdo says:
    January 2, 2011 at 5:34 am
    No lefty, I pop in periodically and the first thing I notice is how you monopolize almost every thread. It’s pretty obvious this is where you spend the bulk of your day and all it takes is a moment for the casual observer to see.”

    No, what you do is called “lurking” and what I do is called “participating”. Now there is plenty of space for you to contribute to the thread topic and not just whine like a pubescent girl who had to leave her dolly at home.

    beerBoy – you can have radec. I’m tired of it.
    Why don’t you ask the Trib if they mind someone actively commenting. I mean, they make these comment threads and all…..you’d think they’d love the idea of people using them.

  52. First_Lefty says:

    Sorry beer….I inserted the line in the wrong place…..but I think you can figure that out….

  53. First_Lefty says:

    “whatIdo says:
    January 2, 2011 at 5:34 am
    No lefty, I pop in periodically and the first thing I notice is how you monopolize almost every thread.

    Thus you must audit and count all the posts on every thread whenever you “pop in”. Have you considered jigsaw puzzles?

  54. JudasEscargot says:

    what is with these people who are obsessed with who is who and how much they blog?

    Maybe they should watch re-runs of Dancing with the Stars

  55. beerBoy says:

    Well, now that you are using “i” instead of “b” perhaps you won’t be accused of….whatever it is that upsets them because you use bold.

  56. the3rdpigshouse says:

    I was hoping all of the local leftist anti-American maggots had gone the way of 2010 but nope – they are still with us, ranting & raving in their continuing ignorance and disgust for their own country!!! Happy New Year to all those who do not fall into the aforementioned category!!

  57. Sorry, haven’t counted any… it’s pretty obvious.
    .
    “copying and pasting FirstLefty out of context”?

    Nope.
    .
    But since you think it’s out of context, let’s analyze it. See if there is enough “context’ to illustrate your hypocrisy B.
    ……………………..

    A study shows that everything you say is wrong
    Submitted by beerBoy on October 8, 2008 – 12:48pm.
    and no I can’t cite the source off the top of my head and don’t have time to look right now, but I know what I saw and do not fabricate.
    .

    • beerBoy wrote on 02/27/2010 06:52:06 AM:
    Parkland – avowing that you “know” something to be true isn’t really that convincing an argument.

    ………………….
    basic rule of internet rhetoric
    Submitted by beerBoy on November 6, 2008 – 9:49am.
    you make the assertion – you provide the supporting evidence. It is taken as a sign that you don’t really have anything to back up your claims if you come back with a variation on “do your own research” or “it’s self-evident”.

    • beerBoy wrote on 02/22/2010 08:27:34 AM:
    I’m not your research monkey. I’ve read the articles so I can assure you they exist and can be found on the internet

  58. • beerBoy2 wrote on 08/26/2009 08:31:41 AM:
    The vile and mean-spirited right reveals itself in its full viciousness.

    • beerBoy2 wrote on 09/17/2009 06:25:44 PM:
    here’s a personal attack for you Wendy – go pleasure yourself.

    • beerBoy wrote on 01/16/2010 06:02:57 AM:

    Your word play on this doesn’t change the fact that many of your posts are efforts to dismiss and demonize through labeling and name-calling. You don’t need to reduce your output to a more well-read version of 3PH.

  59. beerBoy says:
    June 25, 2010 at 6:37 am
    Dale….spellcheck? What’s that? Grammatical/spelling errors are expected. If you are using spellcheck for these posts you are admitting that your priorities are a little skewed and you need to back away from the computer

    ………………….
    beerBoy says:
    May 30, 2010 at 5:49 am
    (rather than those that are necessary for our defence)
    ………..
    beerBoy says:
    May 31, 2010 at 6:19 am
    And ron…..sorry to be the spelling police……but there is only one “a” in immigration.
    …………..

    See? And it took me all of 5 minutes.

  60. • beerBoy wrote on 04/24/2009 06:47:16 AM:
    Don’t ya just love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning?

  61. JudasEscargot says:

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeezus!!!!

    WhatIdo wrote more than two sentences?

    Oh, sorry. It was all copy and paste.

    Can you believe that someone would catalog all those posts from another commenter? Clear back over 6 months?

    Obsession.

  62. JudasEscargot says:

    Can someone tell me if WhatIDo ever comments on the discussion issue?

  63. JudasEscargot says:

    “whatIdo says:
    January 2, 2011 at 5:34 am
    No lefty, I pop in periodically and the first thing I notice is how you monopolize almost every thread. It’s pretty obvious this is where you spend the bulk of your day and all it takes is a moment for the casual observer to see.

    Have fun.”

    Actually, it would appear, from your volumes of copy/paste of beerBoy that you pop in periodically and copy comments from other people. Truthfully, more than periodically.

    The first thing I notice is that you never comment on the subject of the thread.

    You can’t be monitoring Lefty with all the time you devote to beerBoy.

  64. whatIdo says:

    You’re just jealous.

  65. whatIdo says:

    … and haven’t been paying attention.

  66. Roncella says:

    Happy New Year, 3pigshouse, and all the other freedom loving, Loyal Americans who cherish and Love America, The Greatest Country On The Planet.

  67. JudasEscargot says:

    “he3rdpigshouse says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:37 am
    I was hoping all of the local leftist anti-American maggots had gone the way of 2010 but nope – they are still with us, ranting & raving in their continuing ignorance and disgust for their own country!!! Happy New Year to all those who do not fall into the aforementioned category!! ”

    Our own little local version of Steven Colbert

  68. whatIdo says:

    whatIdo says:
    December 31, 2010 at 10:13 am
    Excellent point Robert.

    No doubt the nonsequitor, strawmen, false dichotomy arguments will continue.

    Without the U.S. there would be far fewer wars… because the USSR would be the world power…

    oh, and freedom? we wouldn’t have to worry about that either.

    …..
    AND, you should note that it was beerboy that responded to me first. I have become accustomed to selective outrage hypocrites. That’s why when I first started posting here 3 years ago I thought it would be entertaining AND informative to save some of B’s hypocritical posts. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
    .

  69. whatIdo says:

    Happy New Year Roncella.

  70. the3rdpigshouse says:

    And a Very Happy New Year to you Roncella!!

  71. beerBoy says:

    ah gee…..you do care!

    In the three years you have been posting here, I gotta wonder what the percentage of posts you have made that are other peoples’ words and of that percentage, how many of them are about me.

    With all this time logged, I really can’t remember any cogent argument ever put forward by you on any subject. Your entire “body of work” here can be boiled down to:

    Yes, you are right (to all of the right wingers here)
    No, you are wrong (to all of the left wingers here
    And cut and paste out of context (and oftentimes snipped to change the original meaning)

  72. JudasEscargot says:

    WhatIdo still posted a generic nothing

  73. whatIdo says:

    Of course you can’t.

  74. yabetchya says:

    I think bb is just a little upset that his own words keep comming back to haunt him. It’s a hoot, when he gets called out. He like to blather alot, but won’t own what he says. He ( and a few other personalities on here)just needs a reminder, of what an ~~~~he can be.

  75. JudasEscargot says:

    Gosh, yabetchya, that really was an insightful look into the subject of nuclear protests.

    Blather much?

  76. JudasEscargot is First Lefty

  77. beerBoy says:

    “Great people talk about ideas, average people talk about things, small people talk about other people.”
    Eleanor Roosevelt

  78. whatIdo says:

    Submitted by beerBoy on September 28, 2008 – 6:50pm.
    is you thought that was a really clever response
    .
    Submitted by beerBoy on August 2, 2007 – 6:52am.
    once again iamjimm attempts …
    .
    • beerBoy2 wrote on 10/30/2009 10:10:54 AM:
    ij stop living in the past
    .
    Submitted by beerBoy on September 23, 2008 – 1:32pm.
    You are a terminal fool.
    .
    Your fall back position
    Submitted by beerBoy on September 22, 2008 – 11:42am.
    is arrogance and insults.
    .
    Submitted by moderate on August 11, 2007 – 6:32am.
    Mr. Lyle’s musings weren’t even worth publishing
    .
    Patty gets it
    Submitted by beerBoy on August 21, 2008 – 7:27am.
    Do you?
    .
    Submitted by beerBoy on August 23, 2008 – 5:46am.
    His response to you says it clearly – he baits with outrageous statements.
    .
    Submitted by beerBoy on October 8, 2008 – 12:54pm.
    Do you have any response to anything that doesn’t show you as an ass? You truly are a douche.
    .
    Submitted by beerBoy on October 26, 2008 – 3:12pm.
    are you willfully ignorant, intentionally obtuse, or just interested in being an agent of misinformation?
    .
    Well, that should make the point.

  79. beerBoy says:

    It does definitely make a point about you.

  80. whatIdo says:

    That I have a keen eye spotting a double standard.

  81. yah sure, ya betcha! Whatever you say. Sure thing.

  82. Novelist3 says:

    Funny how Eleanor Roosevelt would be quoted by beerboy, noted hypocrite that she was. He didn’t do his research when he put out that quote, certainly, given that she tried to force the FBI to go after Westbrook Pegler because she didn’t like the newspaper columns he wrote about her.
    Typical leftist.

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