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POLITICS: Term limits would give the people more voice

Letter by Michael R. Brock, Puyallup on Dec. 15, 2010 at 12:08 pm with 34 Comments »
December 15, 2010 12:56 pm

The voice of the public would be heard a lot louder and clearer if the people we voted in weren’t embedded in office. There are plenty of bright, capable minds with fresh new ideas out there that would be willing to accept a reasonable limit to the amount of time spent in office.

Term limits for all elected officials would be a step forward for all classes of voting taxpayers. Bipartisan legislation would become much more of a reality than the hopeless, dismal leadership we now have.

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  1. Roncella says:

    Michael, I agree with you. However the establishment Dems. and establishment Republs. will not give up their little empires. They have alot of perks that go with staying in office for years and years.

    They get to have the largest personal staffs, and head the most important committies in the Congress. Some are assigned limo’s or airplanes, others get the largest offices in the best locations. The list of goodies goes on and on.

    Michael like I said the Congressmen and Women will not volunteer to give all the goodies up without the taxpayers & voters forcing them to somehow.

    Good luck with that……

  2. One would hope that term limits might make a dent in the corruption at both state and federal levels.

  3. sumner402 says:

    Michael Logic would dictate the term limits would remove the peoples voice not increase it.
    Did you even think this one through?

  4. bobcat1a says:

    No sumner, he wants there to be another class of people for whom it is illegal to vote. Them danged ole’ (we the) people keep insisting on electing people he doesn’t like. Them stupid founding fathers just didn’t have a clue.

  5. What would work better then term limits is to remove money from the equation. All elected and appointed officials should be banned from accepting any funds or other services, except for that specified by law for their positions. And campaign donations should be limited to donations from registered voters (as in no corporations, organizations, or unions).

  6. xring – hear, hear!

  7. redneckbuck says:

    We already have term limits!!! I agree with the libs here, fix the funding issues and get rid of the pork barrell projects.

  8. blakeshouse says:

    Even with term limits, the track record in this state shows that the same type of idiots now in power would still be elected. Between illegal aliens, felons and dead people voting the socialist/ neo marxists would still be holding sway over this gulag. They are determined to put us in the same sinking ship as Ca. finds itself

  9. sumner402 says:

    How do you explain Texas then?
    112 billion in the hole and totally ruled by conservatives.
    Looks like socialist/ neo marxists are better than fascists.

  10. Roncella says:

    sumner, how about Calif, New York, New Jersey, Ilinois, Mass. Wa.State, many other states run by dems, and broke…!!!

  11. X-ring – The term that you missed is referred to as “laundering”. Passing money or favors or advantage in an untitled or untraceable manner. This occurs whenever Pollyanna blinks. When the mode of transport was horseback and the mail took longer than a “click”, the current term limitations were sufficient. Now, however……
    So go to your local DMV to renew your license.
    Press uno por englais.
    Presto endale! Your’e now a (motor) voter
    Term limits – a redundant oxy, dream away….

  12. sumner402 says:

    roncella, how about all the red states that are in worse shape?
    You more than any have been parroting the party line but you never seem to have any answers, why is that?

    How do you explain the broke red states roncella?
    Texas, Idaho, Utah, you sure can’t blame that on liberals or Democrats, so just what do you blame it on?

  13. redneckbuck says:

    Sumner, those red states have cut taxes in preparation of a recovery. They are clearly cutting costs trying to improve the bottom line. While it will look bad in the short term, they are hoping that small business will benefit. Utah for one has cut taxes drasticallty. They should be one of the first states to recover. Washington and California are not cutting taxes. California rasied taxes, we on the other hand have chosed to stand pat.

  14. sumner402 says:

    LOL!!!
    You actually believe that?
    So what happens when they continue to fail?
    Who are you going to blame then?
    And I notice you haven’t explained how they got into trouble in the first place and why they are in worse shape then the evil blue states.
    How did that happen? Shouldn’t their streets be paved in gold since they are controlled by cons?
    How did they end up broke?

  15. redneckbuck says:

    Fannie Mae hit every state in the nation with a hammer to the head.

  16. I couldn,t agree with roncella more!The longer the Politicos are in office the better they get to know the SYSTEM and how to work the SYSTEM to their,not our,advantage.Like whos giving out perks and for what reason.

  17. sumner402 says:

    So it’s fanny mae then?
    That canard has been more than proven false so what else have you got red neck? (even if it were true how does that effect state budgets?)
    Roncella?
    How did the utopia red states go broke?

  18. One of the best things about having many states is we get to see how well many different solutions work ( or don’t work).

  19. sumner402 says:

    We know tax cuts don’t work so…….

  20. Roncella says:

    sumner, the fall of the banking and realestate market has lead our ecomony into the cellar. Your hero President Obama said he had all the answers to fix the economy while he was running for President.

    Howerver as he traveled around the country reading from his tele-prompters how he would fix unemployment, and get the economy moving and close Gitmo, end the Wars in Iraq and Afg. etc. etc. all he seems to have accomplished is making things worse, not better.

  21. Ron – someone whose think is so derivative should remember derivatives.

  22. If our Founding Fathers were able to see into the future the 22nd Amendment wouldn’t have been needed. Times change, situations change maybe we should adapt to them.

  23. sumner402 says:

    Can you answer the question roncella?
    How did the red states end so broke?

    You blame the Democrats for Washingtons budget problems, why aren’t you blaming the conservatives for the red states problems?

    Your talking points are again falling way short for you, you’re going to have to run from this one like redneck did.
    But thats OK we expect you to run when the facts get in the way.

  24. bobcat1a says:

    Try to remember one little fact here. California citizens pay far more money into the federal treasury than the state gets back in services. What happens to the difference? Why, it goes to keep those paragons of fiscal sanity like Mississippi, Alabama, and a dozen other red states from returning to third world status. They live on California’s dime.

  25. sumner402 says:

    The red states, controlled by conservatives are more broke that the list of evil ‘liberal’ state roncella dutifully spews out but they receive more in federal money.
    Their poverty rates are higher, their incomes lower, their property less in value, their cost of living in some case is higher.
    Red states rank at the bottom of almost everything good and at the top of all that is bad, yet the cons think they are what everyone should be doing!

    When cornered and asked to explain, they run or as we have seen here, deflect, then run.

    I wonder if they even admit to themselves how dishonest they are and how wrong their agenda is? I wonder if not being able to explain the facts gives them pause or if they really are in that much denial.

  26. Roncella says:

    sumner, I guess you haven’t noticed that New York, Calif.. Illinois, three of the largest states, are in terrible shape because of the dems. who have been in charge for years and years in controlling the state houses in all three of those states.

  27. Roncella says:

    beerBoy, Everything I stated in my 2:39 post above is true, call it what you will, its all true.

    I sincerely wish Obama had the talent and the answers to fix the problems he was elected to do, he fooled alot of folks into thinking he did, sad for all of us.

    The answers were nothing more than good speeches loaded in his many tele-prompters.

    Like when he said We are not Democrats or Republicans, Conservatives or liberals, etc. etc.

    Then for two years, he went on to be the most partisan far left leaning President in years, calling Republicans and Conservatives names of all kinds, including the huge Tea Party Movement.

  28. sumner402 says:

    roncella, answer the question.
    If the blue states are in trouble because of the Dems as you say, are the red states broke because of the cons?

    It’s a very easy question roncella, so easy a conservative can answer it.

    You’ve been running from it for a very long time now and you still spew your talking points, don’t you even think about them before you puke them out over and over?

    Answer the question roncella.

  29. ron – I will concede that every opinion you post you believe is true.

  30. Roncella says “Then for two years, he went on to be the most partisan far left leaning President in years, calling Republicans and Conservatives names of all kinds, including the huge Tea Party Movement.”

    The truth is that the President has gone too far in his efforts to be bi partisan, and is far more conservative than the right wing talking points portray him.

  31. bobcat1a says:

    “I sincerely wish Obama had the talent and the answers to fix the problems he was elected to do, he fooled alot of folks into thinking he did, sad for all of us.”

    Roncella, Two years in, people said the same things and worse about Reagan and Clinton. Four years in, guess what happened in both cases. History is no more written after two years than are football games decided at the half.

  32. Bobcat & Sumner…Question….Explain why the 22nd amendment was written. No logic there? Them stupid founding fathers saw it all? Come on……….

  33. Roncella says:

    Bobcat you misunderstand what I said. President Obama will be very difficult to beat in 2012. He has a built in strong support that will not leave him no matter one he says or does.

    Obama has a huge re=election fund far greater than any of the possible republicans challengers have, Already, always follow the Money $$$$$.

  34. Roncella says:

    beerBoy, We all think our opinions are the true vision of whats actually happening on any given subject.

    A Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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