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THREE STRIKES: Offenders were set up to fail

Letter by Moira H. O'Crotty, Tacoma on Dec. 8, 2010 at 1:18 pm with 21 Comments »
December 8, 2010 1:21 pm

The three-strikes law that incarcerates ‘persistent offenders’ for life without the possibility of parole is unjust and very expensive. There would not be so many “persistent offenders” if we had had the programs to educate them and rehabilitate them.

Advocates of “tough on crime” should realize the necessity of reform. Three-strikers were not offered treatment, education or rehab programs after their first strike. They were not offered treatment, education or rehab programs after their second strike. Set up to fail, no need for any programs after the third strike because now they’re not going anywhere EVER.

Many nonviolent people face this hopeless future. It is not only unjust but a huge burden on the taxpayers. It is time that this law is scrutinized and changed.

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  1. aislander says:

    Most non-criminals were not offered “treatment, education or rehab programs,” and yet they remain non-criminals. Must be a statistical aberration…

  2. allgirlusa says:

    I would rather have my tax dollars paying to keep these criminals incarcerated. I don’t want to pay for more social programs for criminals. Everyone has the same opportunities in this country. If one chooses to throw those opportunities away and break laws that is their decision – my tax dollars already pay for jails, prisons and legal fees for these people. I don’t want to pay for therapy as well.

  3. sumner402 says:

    Three striks is another example of the failed governing by slogan that the right loves to engage in.
    Gives the little haters something to scream and yell at everyone.

  4. scott11434 says:

    allgirlusa-Thank you for your rendition of “Manifest Destiny 2010″

    I always love the term”Everyone has the same opportunities in this country” until the same problems arise for the people who continue to look the other way. The problems in this country is someone else’s problem until it reaches your home (one of your family or yourself) then you’re screaming for help. Like powder cocaine vs rock is always easy to explain away. THESE or THOSE people are always doing drugs. When it it prescription drugs it’s different. Bulling people- it’s been going on for centuries to people of color in all white schools, but now it happens to your kids and you’re on the news complaining. But I forgot you have a “GOD” that affords you the privilege of hate Monday thru Saturday, then forgiveness on Sunday. Sometimes I feel sorry for humans that can only feel hate for other humans. Don’t forget to put your pointed hat and cross away before you smile in the face of “THOSE” people.

  5. beerBoy says:

    There is a profit motive for jailing repeat offenders, there is none for breaking the cycle of recidivism.

  6. pazzo242 says:

    Let me quote a great man of our time for all you bleeding hearts…”You know what makes me sad, YOU DO! Lets all chung down to Namby-Pamby land, ya jack-wagon”

  7. MadTaxpayer says:

    Such a fool you are.

  8. pazzo242 says:

    Oh please, spare me your tip toe through the tulips baloney. These people who are 3-strikers are people who rape, assault with a deadly weapons, bank rob with a deadly weapon, molest little children and so on. They are NOT petty thieves, simple assaulters, shop lifters, drug users. 3 strikes are for violent offenses only. These people have ample opportunity to get themselves on the right path and fail to do so. Whatever the reason they fail in this doesn’t matter–society must protect themselves from these losers–period.

    So go cry a river somewhere else. You wouldn’t feel the way you do if you had a gun stuffed in your face and even though you cooperated the crook just decides to pistol whip you anyway–for fun. Oh yeah, lets try to rehabilitate that bonehead.

    So go put on your rose colored glasses, sing Kumbaya and when you try to rehab these folks as they are raping your 12 year old daughter, I’ll be happy to come over and do what needs to be done to end your nightmare. Let’s rehabilitate these pathetic people and they can get their lives straight with God—not us.

  9. pazzo242 says:

    Oh please, spare me your tip toe through the tulips baloney. These people who are 3-strikers are people who rape, assault with a deadly weapons, bank rob with a deadly weapon, molest little children and so on. They are NOT petty thieves, simple assaulters, shop lifters, drug users. 3 strikes are for violent offenses only. These people have ample opportunity to get themselves on the right path and fail to do so. Whatever the reason they fail in this doesn’t matter–society must protect themselves from these losers–period.

    So go cry a river somewhere else. You wouldn’t feel the way you do if you had a gun stuffed in your face and even though you cooperated the crook just decides to pistol whip you anyway–for fun. Oh yeah, lets try to rehabilitate that bonehead.

    So go put on your rose colored glasses, sing Kumbaya and when you try to rehab these folks as they are raping your 12 year old daughter, I’ll be happy to come over and do what needs to be done to end your nightmare. Let’s rehabilitate these pathetic people WHILE IN PRISON and they can get their lives straight with God—not us.

  10. sumner402 says:

    pazzo, a TV commercial?
    Thats a deep as you can get?

  11. beerBoy says:

    pazzo – any evidence to support your suggestion that all 3 strikers are raping your 12 year old daughter?

    Most of the repeat customers in the penal industry complex are in for drug related charges – buying, selling or stealing to buy. Nixon’s War on Drugs hasn’t done squat to bring down drug use but it sure has been profitable for the illicit drug marketers, the drug law enforcers and the penal industry.

  12. the3rdpigshouse says:

    O.K. – no more three strikes and you are out! Lets move on to – third crime – you are gone – gene pool improved!!!!

  13. sumner402 says:

    3-strikers are people who rape, assault with a deadly weapons, bank rob with a deadly weapon, molest little children and so on.

    That is simply not the case.

  14. Concernedfather says:

    I will play dumb here and ask this question, in the hope some of you will discover the truth when attempting to retort.

    Does the law cover:

    A) Your third criminal offense?
    B) Your third Felony offense?
    C) Your third Violent offense?

    Judging by what is being written, and posted, here most people don’t know.

  15. beerBoy says:

    I will play dumb here

    Demonstrating that there are occasions when posters are willfully obtuse rather than just ignorantly obtuse.

  16. pazzo242
    These people who are 3-strikers are people who rape, assault with a deadly weapons, bank rob with a deadly weapon, molest little children and so on. They are NOT petty thieves, simple assaulters, shop lifters, drug users. 3 strikes are for violent offenses only
    YOU should educate yourself!! there are many 3 strikers that have NO injuries, and most are locked up for robbery 2 which has NO weapon, NO injury!! there have even been some locked up for ATTEMPTED robbery! grow up man and educate yourself to unjustice!

  17. And the guy that wanted to blow up the Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland was set up to fail. Better that than he succeeded in blowing up several thousand people somewhere sometime. I don’t feel his pain.

  18. brewstrwa says:

    Hmmm…..are there really people out there that think rehabilitation works for violent offenders? The reason that the persistent offender law was passed, was because violent offenders do NOT want to rehabilitate—otherwise, they wouldn’t have been convicted 3x. They’ve chosen a life of assaultive crime, and not so-called “victimless” crimes. Pazzo is on the right track. In order to get a “strike” the offender must be convicted of an ASSAULTIVE felony. When the offender gets three convictions, that was enough to convince the legislature to pass a law that put those offenders in prison for the rest of their lives. This decision was not taken lightly, and has taken many dangerous people out of our communities and into prison where they can’t assault people anymore.

  19. letsworkitout says:

    Look, if you don’t have it together you don’t have it together. 3 strikes and your out is fine by me. I mean, really, how many chances are you going to give? Rehabilitate? Please. Ineffective and just fuzzy. Let criminals know what is coming. Don’t screw up. I would be fine with 2 strikes. No love lost on the losers of society.

  20. letsworkitout says:

    The letter writer has the nerve that everyone should see the necessity of reform. No, we don’t. I’m fine with locking them up. If you can’t cut it in society you don’t belong in it.

  21. letsworkitout says:

    Heck, let’s make a place like “Escape from New York.” Let them fight it out amongst themselves.

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