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REPUBLICANS: Obama can’t stand up to greed

Letter by Earl D. Erickson, Tacoma on Dec. 6, 2010 at 6:17 pm with 47 Comments »
December 23, 2010 2:20 pm

Whether the social issue is about health care reform, social security, minimum wage, Medicare, Medicaid, immigration reform, gay rights or racial discrimination, the Democrats are there to help.

These socialized programs were founded by Democratic presidents and leaders. The premise is simple – compassion, caring for people. The Republican agenda is privatizing these programs into corporations. They have succeeded with shipping jobs overseas, monopolizing and manipulating Wall Street, condemning union workers, and falsifying the truth. Their success is greed.

For example, the Republicans have embraced the Bush tax cuts with lies that they will create jobs when they mostly create wealthier millionaires and billionaires. President Obama failed to step up to the bully pulpit and show leadership to defeat these taxes or let them expire.

President Obama’s quest for a second term is over. His repeated compromises with the Republicans have lost him the base that helped him get elected. His olive branch has been beaten and battered in the past. For a matter of fact, it has been D.O.A. all along.

He is incapable of jabbing thorns into the conservative side. He has become a loser. He needs an FDR moment. He needs to make the late, great, Sen. Ted Kennedy, who endorsed and supported him, proud in his memory. Kennedy’s words: “When does the greed stop? What is it that drives you Republicans crazy?

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  1. sumner402 says:

    The right, no matter what they call themselves, are in fact fundamentally anti-American.
    They put party and money ahead of country, every single time.
    You really can’t blame the tea whiner on the street too much through, they have been systematically programed (brainwashed) into thinking that they and only they care or know what is best for the country. They just can’t get past that to open their eyes to reality.

    200 plus years….it was a good run.

  2. “The Great Society” was a creature of the Democrat Party. It inflicted untold harm on the Black family by rewarding dependency and irresponsible behavior. It is only since the inception of government welfare that the rates of illegitimacy and broken homes among Blacks have dramatically increased. It’s not all about the rich keeping what they’ve got. It’s about what dependency on the government does to the human soul. It’s about the American Dream, making it on your own and the pride that goes with it. Capitalism spreads the wealth unequally. Socialism spreads misery equally.

  3. BlaineCGarver says:

    **rollingeyes** Yes, Sumner, that’s why people from all over the world are busting their butts to get to this country…legally or illegally. Need money? Go get a job, or two if need be, but grab onto your bootstraps and do for yourself instead of parking your fanny on the porch and wait for honest, hardworking taxpayers to foot your bill for you. If you had any pride, you’d live on your own resources.

  4. sumner402 says:

    My point has been made, with two posts from the very folks I was talking about.

  5. beerBoy says:

    Go get a job, or two

    Are you really suggesting that the 9.8% unemployment numbers have nothing to do with the fact that there are very few jobs available for people to “go get”?

  6. aislander says:

    So…now it’s “greedy” to wish to keep what is one’s own? I always considered “greed” to be envy combined with avarice. That would be wanting what someone else has. That would be the left…

  7. aislander, wanting what others have is really not part of the definition of greed. Here’s Webster: “a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed.”

    We have a huge debt that Republicans use as an excuse to block anything they think is counter to the wealthy getting wealthier. They ignore the deficit when they can help ruin our balance sheet and assist China in bankrolling our debt. I think that is the definition of greed plus lack of patriotism.

    If the deficit really down’t matter, then lets ahve some discussion about that so we can all breathe a sigh of relief and not listen to the fear-mongering that accompanies the dire predicitions of what the deficit will do to our nation. It is obvious that the desire to retain just a little more money on the part of the wealthiest is a lot more important than the deficit, so it must not be much of a problem, right?

  8. Velmak when you say “It’s about what dependency on the government does to the human soul” you presume that people can think deep and see what’s way down the road. That’s a lot to expect from some of the folks who regularly post here.

  9. sumner402 says:

    you presume that people can think deep and see what’s way down the road. That’s a lot to expect from some of the folks who regularly post here.

    The hypocrisy is shining so bright one needs dark glass to keep from going blind.

  10. Maybe you should do yourself a favor and stop reading and posting here.

  11. donjames says:

    Teddy Kennedy, LMAO!

  12. beerBoy says:

    far from being over, Obama’s campaign for a 2nd term has just started.

    He is positioning himself as the person who breaks deadlock, who compromises with both sides, who stands up the Dems in order to get what the Dems really want (unemployment).

    Meanwhile the Dems can wail and gnash their teeth and do all sorts of political theatre to assuage their base (though the majority of Americans are against the rich getting tax cuts – so it is more than the base) before they cave.

  13. aislander says:

    We’re not talking about tax cuts, beerBoy (although that’s what the economy needs), we are maintaining the current rates…

  14. To allow these temporary tax cuts to continue for two more years gives the Democrats a bargaining chit in 2012 and steals the thunder from the next congress.

    Not only that, but the public receives something in return; something to which the next congress would unlikely agree.

  15. aislander says:

    Polago writes: “…temporary tax cuts to continue…”

    You mean “to allow the current tax rates to continue,” don’t you Polago? What would your take be if, say, Social Security or Medicare had to be reenacted every ten years or they would go away? I really can’t imagine your saying, “Well, we’re just returning to the status quo–no big deal…”

    In both cases, we are talking about reducing the amount of money people end up with. What’s the diff?

  16. Roncella says:

    Earl of all people for your to reference and quote in your letter, Ted Kennedy one of the most Partisan Politicians to ever serve in the Congress.

    Kennedy was gererous allright with the Tax Payers money not the millions and millions of dollars the Kennedy Empire has stuffed away for years for itself to live in high style looking down at the rest of us peasants.

    Kennedy pushed though extreme liberal and socialistic programs and tried to destroy every conservative appointed to the Supreme court during their confirmation hearings.

    President Obama has been an outstanding President representing the extreme far left and Progressive folks, Not the Independents or Conservative
    Tea Party citizens.

    Getting back to Ted Kennedy, when ever you answer the phone and are asked if you want English or Spanish, you can remember Ted Kennedy, thats just one small slice of the kind of garbage he’s is responsibile for getting passed in the Congress.

  17. sumner402 says:

    He is positioning himself as the person who breaks deadlock, who compromises with both sides, who stands up the Dems in order to get what the Dems really want (unemployment).

    Here is the thing though, he wouldn’t have had too.
    Even the republicans, as disgusting as they are knew they HAD to extend the unemployment if they were to keep what they covet the most…power.
    They care nothing for the people or the country but the do love the power.

  18. sumner402 says:

    We’re not talking about tax cuts,

    For the love of all that good, stop with this already!
    We KNOW you don’t think they tax cuts but WE know you aren’t bright enough or willing to listen to why you are wrong, so just stop already.

  19. sumner402 says:

    To allow these temporary tax cuts to continue for two more years gives the Democrats a bargaining chit in 2012 and steals the thunder from the next congress.

    I tend to differ with that, I see this as setting the tone for the next Congress and giving the right the keys to get whatever they want.
    All they have to do now is threaten and they get what they want.
    And we know they will use the next 2 years to crank up the noise machine and whine endlessly about the up coming tax increase.
    (see the parrot asilander for proof)

  20. To “allow the current tax rates to continue” would mean that the temporary tax cuts would expire, aislander.

    To do otherwise, would require an act of Congress.

  21. When you want children to let go of something, sumner402, hand them something shiny in exchange.

  22. aislander says:

    We should really put sunset provisions into SPENDING bills. It is disruptive in two ways that no one has certainty with regard to tax rates: It obviously makes it impossible for businesses to plan ahead, since current actions affect future tax obligations; and increasing tax payments means less money for the purpose of conducting business. And, subchapter S small businesses pay income tax at individual tax rates, so those rates DO affect the business in all its financial aspects, including money available for employee compensation…

  23. sumner402 says:

    When you want children to let go of something, sumner402, hand them something shiny in exchange.

    Well yes but a loaded Colt 45 isn’t the best thing to hand them.

  24. sumner402 says:

    aislander seriously, you have failed to provide any evidence that taxes effect hiring or expanding and you have been shown evidence that proves taxes do not factor into hiring and expanding.
    Had you at least a years worth of real experience in the business world you would know taxes are at the very bottom of things to consider when expanding your business.
    Can you for at least one time in your life get off the talking points pony and have a real adult conversation? One that deals with facts and at least some truth?
    We know others of your ilk can’t but, can you?

  25. It has already been addressed but, if nothing is done, the tax rates will return to the previous level (which is still low).

    Congress must act in order to cut the taxes.

    They are cuts – that are unfunded.

  26. aislander says:

    So…beerBoy if the “cuts” (WHAT CUTS??) are “unfunded,” there must have been a dramatic drop in revenues that followed the initiation of the current tax rates. The way I see it, based on the time line, revenues fluctuated (hitting a new record high in 2007), but nothing dramatic. Deficits DID increase dramatically, starting, ironically enough, in that same year of 2007, which proves we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

    And again, beerBoy, a “cut” is an action, a reduction in rates. Once the cut is made you then have a state of being: the new tax rates. We have had those rates for several years now…

  27. sumner402 says:

    It’s like reading a stuck record.
    The mindless get onto what they think is a great idea or concept and boy they beat into the ground!

  28. Fibonacci says:

    Roncella
    Boy you are reallyfar from reality aren’t you. You want Obama to repreent the Tea partiers but can you tell me how any REpubican president, such as shrub, represented anyone but the right/rich? Try listening to something other that far right wige radio/TV. POh right, you think THOSE are in the middle but anyting else like, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN ESPN and everything else is far left.

  29. beerBoy says:

    As a small businessman I knew that I could not charge less than the costs of the services. Apparently the Right – which insists upon an extravagant military budget – doesn’t understand that.

  30. Roll_On says:

    I thought you were an educator, not a small business man.

    So do you know how many jobs the extravagant military budget sustains?

    I thought you were all for people having jobs?

    Or would you rather the money from the military budget just be handed to the bottom 98%?

    And how would that work, would you get X% based on your AGI?

    You know, that is how you probably want the wealth from the rich to be redistributed.

  31. Obama’s mistake was that he dealt only with the Republican Leadership rather than dealing with both sets of Leaders.

    Islander, if sunset provisions are good for spending bills are good for tax and revenue bills?

  32. beerBoy says:

    R_O – I have done a lot of things in my life.

    If there was anything resembling a serious attempt to get rid of the waste in Defense Contracting a huge chunk of the budget could be cut and we would still have all those shiny death toys for the size-compensators to play with.

  33. See bBoy, you can’t go around using phrases such as “shiny death toys” without aligning yourself with the lib-progressives.

    About those shiny toys, libs love to hate them until they wake up and find Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-il on the front lawn.

  34. sumner402 says:

    About those shiny toys, libs love to hate them until they wake up and find Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-il on the front lawn.

    The brain washing seems to have worked very well.

  35. aislander says:

    xring writes: “Islander, if sunset provisions are good for spending bills are good for tax and revenue bills?”

    I think you’re asking that if sunsets are good for spending bills, why not for tax rates, right? The reason is that taxes are a very large chunk of a business’s overhead, and businesses MUST have a way to project costs in order to plan for future growth, including whether to add or lay off workers. Not knowing whether tax rates are going to change is one of the worst aspects of our current tax system. Costs are costs, and it doesn’t matter if the cost is rent, utilities, materials, personnel, or taxes; they all factor into the decisions a business must make…

  36. sumner402 says:

    Clearly aislander has never owned or ran a business.

  37. Progressives don’t hate all shiny death toys, just the ones that don’t work or are unnecessary (such as the star wars misscle defense shield).

  38. Funny the writer would mention Obama and greed in the same letter.

    Obama’s charitable giving…

    2000 – 1.0%

    2001 – 0.5%

    2002 – 0.4%

    2003 – 1.4% (when he started thinking about a run…)

    2004 – 1.2%

    2005 – 4.7% (no the wheels are spinning)

    2006 – 6.1%

    … I wonder if his mentor/minister at Trinity knew what a cheap skate he was.

  39. aislander says:

    He MUST have tithed to Rev. Wright! Those percentages MUST be in addition to that. Right?

  40. You should see Joe’s.

  41. Progressives don’t hate all shiny death toys, just the ones that don’t work or are unnecessary (such as the star wars misscle defense shield).

    To say nothing about the $500 toilet seats and crescent wrenches……

  42. Roncella says:

    fibonacci, Tea Party or Conservative folks were not always in agreement with many of President Bushes decisions.

    Unlike the liberal/dems who never waver from the far left leanings of their leaders.

  43. sumner402 says:

    As always sozo resorts to spelling smack.
    When thats all you’ve got sozo, just do yourself a favor and turn your computer off for a month.

  44. sumner402 says:

    Unlike the liberal/dems who never waver from the far left leanings of their leaders.

    You really are clueless aren’t you roncella?

  45. Must be a slow blogging day………..

  46. uh Sumner, there’s a difference between spelling and grammar.

    It WAS childish of me to jab you though; some days you just make it too easy.

  47. aislander says:

    Your English major, sozo, has discovered a new verb tense: the past perfectly annoying…

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