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MILITARY: Gays don’t pose threat to readiness

Letter by André M. Peñalver, Puyallup on Sep. 22, 2010 at 2:14 pm with 18 Comments »
September 22, 2010 2:24 pm

Re: “Retain ‘don’t ask, don’t tell'” (letter, 9-22).

I was disappointed to see this defense of “don’t ask, don’t tell.” While the writer believes that the policy works, the facts point to the contrary.

Since the policy was enacted in 1993, more than 13,000 members of the military have been discharged for their sexuality alone. When our military is stretched thin in two wars, I don’t think such a policy is working.

But most startling is the low estimation of our military that the writer exhibits. His strongest concern is for how any change in policy will further burden our junior officers and noncommissioned officers. Put simply, this assumes that our soldiers cannot handle being around gays and lesbians, and so the addition of gay soldiers will disrupt the military unit.

That concern is misplaced. I would submit that the professional training of the world’s finest military can rise above something most of us experience on a daily basis — interactions with gays. Around the world, 25 countries allow gays and lesbians to serve openly. If their men and women can handle the challenge, I do not know what is to stop ours.

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  1. Andre, you are absolutely right about us having the worlds finest military – let’s not tinker with it in regards to having open homosexual behavior being approved as something “normal”. If anything, we should do away the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy instituted by Bill Clinton – a policy that has been just as ambiguous as his own ethical behavior (i.e., “I didn’t inhale, and debating the meaning of “is”).

    Just enforce the UCMJ – period.

  2. The UCMJ does not override the Constitution and at least one federal judge has found the policy unconstitutional. I expect more to follow and they will beat the republican obstructionists to a pulp.
    It will happen. Your resistance is futile.

  3. APimpNamedSlickback says:


    There is no need to “tinker.” The problem within the military is with the older members who just aren’t willing to accept a changing social dynamic. The younger ones are already accustomed to being around homosexuals on a daily basis and know that it makes no difference what a person’s sexual preference is in the workplace. The younger ones that don’t feel this way are no different than those that opposed desegregation of the military. There will be some problems early on, but once the change is made everything will smooth out fairly quickly.

    Besides, are you telling me that the members of the most professional, highly-disciplined fighting force in the world aren’t capable of following the simple order to “just accept it?” The military couldn’t operate if it bent to every individual’s personal preference. There are still plenty of people who think women shouldn’t be in the military, let alone positions that require them to be near the fighting. Yet everytime our military has been placed in a position where it must choose whether it will do it’s job or put up a fuss about the changing dynamic, it has always chosen the former and excelled. And every single time the result has been a stronger, more professional, better functioning force.

    DADT should be repealed, and the sections of the UCMJ relating to homosexuals should be as well. They will soon be found to be unconstitutional anyway, in light of Lawrence v. Texas, whether it’s from the Witt case or some other exceptional servicemember who is ousted for being gay.

  4. the3rdpigshouse says:

    Gays have no place in the military – save all the anormal social experiments for the civilian socialist democrats!! If the writer hasn’t served in the military, please withdraw your meaningless opinions!

  5. the3rdpigshouse says:

    FYI – that useless piece of meat in tennis shoes occupying a U.S. Senate seat (Murray) has voted to approve “openly gay members in the military & to reward illegal immigrants with the Dream Act”! People are searching for jobs and this useless Senator is busy worrying the social experimentation with our military and supporting illegal immigration??!!

  6. OldLefty says:

    “having open homosexual behavior being approved as something “normal”

    Yeah, we need our soldiers sexual tastes to reflect the goings on at Abu Ghraib

    “People are searching for jobs and this useless Senator is busy worrying the social experimentation with our military and supporting illegal immigration??!! ”

    yeah, piglet. We need to discharge more of those qualified soldiers so that we can’t count on their service AND they’ll join the unemployment ranks.

  7. OldLefty says:

    “the3rdpigshouse says:
    September 22, 2010 at 7:17 pm
    Gays have no place in the military – save all the anormal social experiments for the civilian socialist democrats!! If the writer hasn’t served in the military, please withdraw your meaningless opinions!”

    If you think any self respecting gay man might take a second look your way, you are embarrassing yourself. I’ll bet you think there are no gay professional athletes either.

  8. Fibonacci says:

    I have news for you. There already are—gasp—- gays in the mililtary. You know, I find that those most homophobic are usually the ones that question their own sexuality. Worried there are you Piggy?

  9. “Everyone knows that gays have served honorably in the military since at least the time of Julius Caesar.”

    “You don’t have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.”

    Barrry Goldwater

  10. the3rdpigshouse says:

    I do love it so when those societal engineers who have never been in the military know exactly what is good for the military!! Pathetic!

  11. Just to be clear here Pigsy, you just labeled Barry Goldwater as “Pathetic!”

    And, you also dismissed the top brass of the Pentagon as “never been in the military”

  12. BTW Pigsy…..

    With the American entry into World War II, Goldwater received a reserve commission in the United States Army Air Forces. He became a pilot assigned to the Ferry Command, a newly formed unit that flew aircraft and supplies to war zones worldwide. He spent most of the war flying between the USA and India, via the Azores and North Africa or South America, Nigeria, and Central Africa. He also flew “the hump” over the Himalayas to deliver supplies to the Republic of China. Remaining in the Air Force Reserve after the war, he eventually retired as a command pilot with the rank of Major General. By that time, he had flown 165 different types of aircraft. Following World War II, Goldwater was a leading proponent of creating the United States Air Force Academy, and later served on the Academy’s Board of Visitors. The Visitor Center at the USAF Academy is now named in his honor.

  13. JungleBoy says:

    General Andre – you sound like the Democrats who just voted to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” Rather than wait for the military brass to give their opinion about the matter in early December, the wise (politically-motivated) Senators decided they knew better.

    Face the facts, the recent attempt by the Senate to pass an appropriations bill which included the Dream Act and the elimination of Don’t Ask was a purely political move. It showed no regard for the combat-effectiveness of the U.S military, so you might even say it was unpatriotic. Yes, UNPATRIOTIC.

  14. eagle_beak says:

    being gay was not what got the nurse to loose her job. having a sexual affair with someone’s wife and that husband sending a letter to her superior was what put attention on her.

  15. Uh, Andre, did you ever serve in the military? If not, that might be one reason you “don’t know what is to stop ours.”

    Another might be the consensus of the top brass in all branches that gays serving openly ain’t a very smart idea.

    We don’t want to be like the rest, just the best.

  16. Sumner401 says:

    Seems the only thing that scares the right more than the evil unions and Mexicans is gay people.

  17. No one is “scared” of gay people, just what they will do to the military. After the leftists legalize pot and let gays hang-out openly in the military, it’s PARTY time!! Only a totally unbalanced mental case (or liberal) could want something like that in the military.

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