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IMMIGRATION: Drastic action must be taken

Letter by Lyle Laws, Puyallup on Aug. 12, 2010 at 11:26 am with 39 Comments »
August 12, 2010 11:35 am

Is there such a thing as a solution to ending the illegal immigration problem that grows every day? Can America stop the flow with anything less than a “shoot-to-kill” border control solution which we all know will never happen?

The only logical solution, short of violence, might be for the U.S. to cut off any and all benefits illegals can receive short of dire emergency medical problems.

After some date certain, say a year after such a federal law was enacted, anyone who provided services of any kind (employment, education, housing, food stamps) to anyone who can’t produce proof of their legal status would be subject to severe penalties, including prison time. If all adult trespassers were subjected to DNA tests before they were sent back and videotaped being clearly told that if they returned and there was a match, they would automatically be sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole, I think don’t think there would be many repeat offenders.

I don’t blame those who try to bring their families out of abject poverty. I would do the same thing. But can we allow our country to become so overrun with the world’s poverty-stricken people that in the not-too-distant future we will also be poverty stricken? A country can only support so many people with a reasonable standard of living.

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  1. Lyle, great letter. I agree totally with you. If anyone caught the pictures of thousands of people lined up yesterday in Atlanta for housing vouchers, you can only imagine what this country will look like when there’s millions more of them with no money and no where to live. Of course perhaps the liberals in this country will solve that problem by offering to take in some of them into their own homes.

  2. “If all adult trespassers were subjected to DNA tests before they were sent back and videotaped being clearly told that if they returned and there was a match, they would automatically be sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole, I think don’t think there would be many repeat offenders.”

    Who is going to pay for the prisons?

    The average cost in the USA is $28,689 a year per inmate.

    In Washington state, the average cost is $37,303 a year per inmate, got to pay those union wages and benefits.


  3. BlaineCGarver says:

    You can’t keep them out until there is no reason for them to be here….Slam employers and providers of services when they sell to or hire illegals and the well will dry up. Please don’t tell me it can’t be done. When I buy a gun, the national check identifies me and passes or denies me in a matter of moments. Call Dominoes, and they tell me who I am and where I live and the last pizza I ordered. I call EXTREME BS on anyone that cannot think of many good ways to drain our country of this sewage.

  4. There are compassionate ways to begin the process of turning this around.
    I don’t blame anyone attempting top escape despair, but there must be a measure of control or the chaos in enjoy will only spread.

    If the government here doesn’t stop spending money, everyone will suffer.

    I think some of the Hollywood libs, and the Al Gores of the world actually should open their billion dollar mansions to the homeless. Or sell the mansions and live modestly, using the money to open shelters to feed, clothe and educate the needy. Charity starts at home, right? Not at the back door of the Capitol bldg.

  5. Fine the employers, agreed. Now how about the enablers: one can
    1) get a drivers license
    2) open a bank account
    3) open a credit account at most businesses
    4) get emergency room service (been there myself, legally and unplanned
    because of an illegal alien ‘system-gamer)
    5) get a free translator provided
    6) get free legal assistance
    7) get paid in (tells no tales-leaves no trails) cash

    Our elected excuse givers and business backstabbers are profiting big time because tax-payers are generally working, raising families and just trying to provide a home( to pay taxes on ). For others there’s La Raza…

  6. hansgruber says:

    I’m curious why AG Holder filed this lawsuit against Arizona in Federal District Court when the US Constitution clearly says:

    Article III Section 2 Paragraph 2

    In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, AND THOSE IN WHICH A STATE SHALL BE A PARTY, THE SUPREME COURT SHALL HAVE ORIGINAL JURISDICTION. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

    And why would a US Appellate Court Judge rule on this case when the ONLY court that has jurisdiction is the US Supreme Court?

    Can anyone answer this?

  7. Excellent point, larsman. Many are involved in making it inviting to come to the U.S., and the dems just keep handing out stuff.

  8. jandkgibbs says:

    Here is the truth and I am a Republican:

    Republicans want cheap labor and democrats see the Hispanic vote their future path to power. End result is no real action. They won’t close the border because BOTH the (D)’s and (R)’s don’t want it closed.

    Every other argument over immigration is nothing but rhetoric and designed to be a distraction to the real issue. Until both political parties admit the truth to Americans we will only have the status quo. Money and political power are the motivating factors here. We must have a solution that totally removes the incentive for employers to hire and at the same time stop policies such as drivers licenses for illegals and sanctuary cities that democrats use to build a larger base of support.

    .Here is a suggestion to start:
    1. Prison time for CEO’s that hire an illegal
    2. cutting off all federal funds to sanctuary cities

    We are doomed unless votes have the bravery to vote out all incumbents in the federal government and demand the new place holders sign a promise to fix this mess. It’s tearing this great country apart and it must stop and NOW. Voters!!!!!!!!, America needs you to be brave.

    Am I wrong?

  9. villager98 says:

    Except that the problem actually isn’t growing, it is shrinking.

    hansgruber, you should read that quote from the Constitution again – very carefully – and think about what it says, not what you think it says.

  10. hansgruber says:

    The GOP has made it no secret they want a Guest Worker Program.

    You hit the nail with the DEM’s. Here is what our President said about enforcing and deporting illegals

    “Such an effort would be logistically impossible and wildly expensive.” President Obama July 2, 2010.

    Do you want them regulated or just flowing free over the border?

    Am I wrong?

  11. hansgruber says:

    Villager-If you think the word “State” means another country, what jurisdiction does the US Supreme Court have over Mexico? England? Or any other nation?

    Nice Try

  12. “I’m curious why AG Holder filed this lawsuit against Arizona in Federal District Court when the US Constitution clearly says:”

    Hans, the Supreme Court doesn’t have to take the case if they don’t want to.

    I they don’t want to take the case, then that frees the Federal government to go to a lower court to enforce federal law.

  13. Sumner401 says:

    The only logical solution, short of violence, might be for the U.S. to cut off any and all benefits illegals can receive short of dire emergency medical problems.

    Well, since that is already the case and has been for decades, I know I know fox noise and rush are telling you different, but they lie and you know they lie, that leaves the only real workable solution, fine and severely punish the employers.
    We know that isn’t going to happen because big business loves the cheap labor.
    Besides this latest wedge issue will be back burner-ed for you all in a few months and you’ll be instructed on the next great outrage! spoon fed to you by your media.
    So hang in there, it will be alright.

  14. Sumner401 says:

    For others there’s La Raza…

    Lars once again you put your clear cut racism on display as well as sozo puts her elitism and hypocrisy.

  15. Sumner401 says:

    “Such an effort would be logistically impossible and wildly expensive.” President Obama July 2, 2010.

    That is a very true statement, it’s refreshing to have a President tell the truth, isn’t it?
    I know it’s a bit shocking for those that need and want everything they hear filtered to meet their conservative bent, but the truth is still the truth.

  16. LuckyCharm says:

    jandk, I second your post wholeheartedly.

  17. Lyle don’t you think your over reacting a little. Life in prison, really! What about those who are children brought over by their parents, would you put them in prison for life if they were brought here more than once?

    I suggest Lyle that you turn off Fox news for a while, try reading a book or take a trip some place relaxing.

  18. Miss Zip Code- You are ‘spouting’ again- I am not a “racist” and you can find absolutely nothing in my posts that demonstrate your absurd (as usual) allegation. For the record, I am not a ‘republican’ , nor a ‘foxist’. Go to school and get a life, little bomb-thrower…

  19. La Raza means “the race” which by it’s own definition IS a racist organization…

    They are inaccurately portraying their members as a “race” . Go see how Mexico treats Native Americans within their borders. Belizian Mayans don’t have it very good on their border either, and Mexico is a country with a culture, it is NOT a race but La Raza IS racist. Put the bong down before you fall over again Zip.

  20. Here is something interesting, recently published in the News Tribune but I guess Lyle missed this article:


    The full title of the article is:

    Recession, enforcement driving illegal immigrants to leave U.S

  21. hansgruber says:

    Fatuous-It doesn’t say “may” it says “shall”.

    Sumner- It is refreshing to hear the President speak the truth

    “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”

    Oops, sorry that one didn’t end up be a true statement did it?

  22. LuckyCharm says:

    lars, La Raza has devoted a whole section of their website to explaining their name, just for xenophobes like you.

  23. Careful LC, jandk sounds a lot like Bill O’Reilly here.

    lars you must learn to ignore the little spit-ups emitted by Sumner who just has to puke up a little sour milk from time to time. It’s annoying but meaningless in the long run.

  24. sevenstrokeroll says:

    Right on jandkgibbs. A republican who thinks! Now we disagree on a few thigs, but IF this is such a problem, the approach to curbing it would be much more effective using your “bust the guy that hires them” idea.

    However, an additional and perhaps bigger problem is illegals transporting drugs. Just legalize weed and this issue will dry up soon as the weed market will be legit. You don’t hear about illegals transporting tequila to the US do you? The prohibition thing is ridiculous and always fails to do what was intended.

  25. hansgruber says:

    Legalize weed…..LOL!!!!!

  26. Roncella says:

    The Democrats like Reid and many others will use the illegal Mexican issue to gain votes with the offer of Amnesty. They will and are painting the Republicians as racists against the Mexicans.

    President Obama and the Democrats in Congress have nothing positive to run their campaign on this November. So they have to get an amnesty Bill through the Congress ASAP. Their other plan is to use the montra over and over and over again, ” Blame Bush” for everything.

    Both Parties are guilty of using the Mexicans as a pawn for years. However the Democrats are not above destroying America in order to gain votes from Mexicans in order to save Democrats running for election this November and Obama in 2012.

    What ever happen to a once Great and Proud Democratic Party who loved America and always protected it from so many evils outside our borders ???

  27. Roncella, that once great and proud demokrat party died with Kennedy. Since that time it has been totally controlled by commies and dopers and thieves. Just take a close look at the so-called “Congressional Black Caucus”. It’s loaded with liars, crooks and subversives.

  28. Roncella says:

    Frosty, Your right,

    1. Investagations into President Clinton/Hillary-Dem.
    2. Investagations into Barney Frank-Dem
    3. Investagations into Maxine Rivers-Dem
    4. Investagations into Charlie Rangle (happy birthday Charlie)-Dem
    5. Investagations into Jim McDermott-Dem
    6. Investagations into Chris Dodd-Dem
    7. Investagations into Brockovich-Dem
    and the list goes on……………..

    Nancy Pelosi said she would drain the swamp when she become speaker of the house, she better get to draining quick.

  29. Roncella, she’d better have a life presever on, she be one of the first to get washed down the drain.

  30. Roncella says:

    Well its now official, Washington State is a destination State for illegal Mexicans to come to live. Its one of only three states in the nation that will issue drivers licenses to illgeal mexicans and others with out any proper I.D. .

    This came over the National News cables all day friday. The mexicans are flooding here by the thousands many from the State of Arizona which is cleaning house on illegal Mexicans.

    The other two states allowing illegal Mexicans to get drivers licenses is Utah and New Mexico.

    Please all voters who are tired of all the liberal/ Democrats in Olympia recking the once Beautiful State of Washington get registered now and get your friends and family members enlightened on who to vote for and make sure they vote this November.

    Its never been more important to clean house on the Liberal/Democrats in Olympia then it is right now.

  31. A country can only support so many people with a reasonable standard of living.

    Gotta love that “can do” attitude!

    Actually though, Lyle has inadvertently touched upon a rather pressing issue – overpopulation. According to an article in the Guardian today, scientists do not believe that we will be able to produce enough protein by 2050 and will have to synthesize meat. Yum! Soylent Green!


  32. Grow up LC- It is / was never about some “fear of strangers” issue that you’ve invented. This just shows that you either do not read well or choose to fail in the ‘comprehending’ world.
    Re; La Raza, the interchangeability of the terms “people” “race” and uhhh,”Spanish speaking only” continues to lend itself to the definition of “Racist” by being an exclusive little club which cannot be joined by white English speaking people. LC- Your problem is a liberal mindset problem that sees “social justice” as a force-fed government solution that must be administered for the benefit of “GROUPS” rather than INDIVIDUALS. This is nothing more than making ‘language’ the prerequisite initiation into a cultural / politically motivated “gang”. Borders, Language and Culture is the most prominent definition of ANY country, including ours…

  33. Bb- Lay down on you stomach while I continue to place furniture on it…you Can Do it, It’s all attitude, you can..you can…gotta love it…

  34. The “Guardian”? (like big brother) – “Soylent Green is people”

  35. larsman, what else needs to be said? You said it all very well.

  36. hensandducks says:

    Jesus would call the illegals Samaritans.

  37. hensandducks, Do you know what a Samaritan is? It’s not someone who sneaks into someone else’s country and gets put on food stamps and welfare.

  38. LuckyCharm says:

    lars, what is it exactly that threatens you so much about Spanish-speaking people? I mean, after I got back from Iraq, I was severely disturbed by any brown people in my vicinity speaking a foreign language, but I got therapy for that, and now I’m better.

    frosty, in Jesus’ time, the Samaritans were outcasts — unclean imposters, unworthy of any of the benefits the Jewish society might offer. The comparison is valid.

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