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ELECTION: Obama has plenty of excuses for failures

Letter by Ronald A. Petitte, Federal Way on Aug. 4, 2010 at 4:57 pm with 76 Comments »
August 4, 2010 4:57 pm

The president is going into campaign mode. He is traveling around the country with his many Teleprompters loaded with excuses for failing to accomplish much in his first two years as president.

While running for president he had all the answers to all the problems facing the country. Reviewing a short list of some of his promises shows a failure to keep his word about how he would govern and how much he would actually accomplish.

1. Closing Guantanamo, Cuba.

2. Fixing the auto industry.

3. Fixing the banking and mortgage industries.

4. Getting the economy moving.

5 Creating jobs and lowering unemployment.

6. Ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and bringing most of the troops home.

7. Universal health care.

The list goes on and on, however Obama’s excuses for not accomplishing his goals are the same at all his stops. He blames President Bush. Even with control of the Congress by Democrats he has been unsuccessful as president to get American back on track.

Hopefully this November voters will clean house of those members of Congress who have not read bills before signing them and refused to listen to the voters they represent.

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  1. Sumner401 says:

    The funny part about this talking points letter is that most of the genuine goals of the President have been met or are well in progress. They would of course be further along if he didn’t the party NO! cry babies blocking everything but what are you going to do.

    Not sure where the universal health care came from as that was never one of President Obamas goals.
    But like all far right wingers, the truth doesn’t matter to roncella, never has.

    I do agree that this election we all need to make sure the real Americans stay in office, those that are working to help the country not continue to harm it so please vote for anyone but a republican.

  2. Thank you, Ron for pointing out several of the items that President Obama has on his list of things to do. Those who voted for him did so because they wanted these items and others like them accomplished. His numbers are down because he has yet to accomplish these goals.

    I’m sure that you are sincere, in wanting Republicans in office, but these items would not be on any Republican’s short list. And Republicans have a habit of saying “NO” whenever good legislation is presented.

    You are correct to bring GWB into this mix. He was President while many of these problems occurred.

    Hopefully, in the next two to three years President Obama will continue to push forward his agenda and get these tasks accomplished, with the help of a friendly Congress.

  3. The righties here mocked Obama supporters shortly after he was elected, suggesting his supporters considered him almighty and powerful. They said that Obama wouldn’t amount to anything..

    Now, they seem to think that Obama should be able to turn water into wine.

    The cold hard truth is that the Republican Party has a vested interest in doing everything in their power to prevent any forward progress. The worse off the economy is, the worse the party in power looks. The worse the wars go, the worse the party in power looks.
    It’s that simple.

    If Democrats had any spine, they’d be making this blatantly obvious to the American public. Too bad most Americans get distracted when they see shiny objects.

    Roncella did a good job reiterating his normal talking points though.

  4. TonyCrago says:

    Wow eight years of terror under the Bush crime family – six of those years with a GOP Congress and Senate – and the GOP is giving President Obama just 18 months to fix eight years of problems? President Obama is good but nobody is that good. As President Obama recently said, why would we want to give the keys back to the GOP? They had their chance and they ran the car into a ditch. Only stupid people who aren’t paying attention would fall for that.

  5. CrazyJim says:

    My biggest problem with Obama is that he can’t clean up the destructive policies left over by the previous administration fast enough. And the Republicans (half tea party and half the party of no) are of absolutely no use in any of it.

    You know, except to tell the public how the trickle down theory didn’t have a chance to work properly in spite of the top 5% having income increases of 280% since Ronnie Raygun.

    This stuff just writes itself!

  6. LuckyCharm says:

    Polago, Republicans didn’t and still don’t want any of those things done. But instead of saying, “Well, we thought he was going to do all this bad stuff, and he didn’t,” they turn it around and say, “He can’t get anything done” — even if it’s stuff they don’t want in the first place!

    Righties are lemmings. They get their talking points and parrot them all over the place, but if you ask them to explain specific points of disagreement, they basically say, “What everybody else said.” That’s why they can’t imagine why a party with a majority wouldn’t win every time. Democrats don’t seem so easily corralled and categorized. They can be found on both sides of any issue. Unfortunately, they are just as susceptible to being bought off, and therein lies the rub.

    We need to get corporate money out of politics. Only one candidate is championing this cause right now: Bob Burr.

  7. Obummer should not have to worry as long as he can keep the voters in the dark as evidenced in the last 6 praises.Typical case of pathetic denial.

  8. This is probably the best letter to the editor ever written, assuming the writer’s goal was to cut his own throat.

    The U.S. auto industry is once again “back on track” making profits and creating jobs, and the once deregulated U.S. banking and mortgage industry, largely responsible for the world-wide economic collapse has had “fixing” through the most extensive overhaul of banking regulations since the great depression. The economy which was spiraling into gutter when our president took office, is at least moving in the right direction. Employment losses of 850,000 jobs per month in early 2009 has also reversed itself from negative numbers to positive.., Not bad considering the previous administration gave U.S. corporations tax breaks to relocate our jobs overseas. And health care? Several previous presidents failed in their attempts to pass health care legislation, whereas this president succeeded.

    Such accomplishments are not bad for a telemprompter fed, community organizer who unlike his predecessors, inherited no fame, and no fortune, but instead worked his way up and out of poverty to become the most powerful man in the world. The American dream! What a country!

    Finally, the writer says that the president has been unsuccessful in getting American “back on track”. Back on track? So is this the long awaited admission that the previous administration had the country derailed when president Obama took office? Well, I never thought I’d see the day.., Roncella’s Bush bashing!

  9. Look at all the libs chiming in here. Ron- you are definitely over the target.

  10. ArchieMoore says:

    Well said, Cirrus.

  11. hansgruber says:

    You forgot the National Debt has increased a mere $2.775 Trillion in 18 months under President Obama. (Over half of what GW ran up in 8 years as President).

    Under the Pelosi & Reid run Congress, a mere $4.631 Trillion in in 42 months (Since 2007). Even GW couldn’t do that!

    Yeah, vote Democrat….right.

  12. hansgruber says:

    Hey Cirrus, did you see the unemployment rolls today? Only 479,000 new claims for beneifits! Only you and Harry Reid could see that as good news (That 19,000 new job losses).

  13. You forgot to mention Obama invented 7 more states and a new Austrian language. This November will clearly illustrate Obama’s most major accomplishment.

  14. beerBoy says:

    Little Ron,

    Remember that St. Ronnie the Communicator spent the first half of his first term blaming his predecessor.

    And….looking at that list…..Obama did “save” the auto industry and got a health reform bill through. He announced the end of combat troops in Iraq. The stimulus and the economic reform bill….

    Whether or not one considers these actions efficacious, you can’t say he has done nothing but blame W.

  15. Sumner401 says:

    LOL!!
    As expected, nothing but the standard GOP talking points and attacks from the bankrupt right wingers!
    You almost have to feel sorry for them.
    Hans, do some fact checking, your numbers are off and most all of the debt, 75% of it is because of you conservatives, we’ve been over it and it’s been proven.

    Nice catch on the bush bashing though, I didn’t see that!
    Amazing the the far right is now blaming everything on bush the failure, I didn’t think we were supposed to blame the guilty when the guilty was a republican.

  16. stetsonwalker says:

    If you think the auto industry is “back on track” I suggest you look at the slumping sales. Obama did nothing but throw a bunch of money at a problem. Sales are basically the same place as before the “cash for clunkers” program which took a lot of good cars for lower income people off of the market. As far as health care, have you not paid any attention to the latest Minnesota vote? I do not think this country is behind him on this. So really the few things he has “accomplished” have been failures. This whole presidency is a failure!

  17. stetsonwalker says:

    Sorry I meant Missouri I always confuse those two states.

  18. Clearly the data is read by each according to his/her predetermined notions.

    It will be interesting to see if the Missouri vote reflects the general feelings of the quiet folks who reside in the middle of all this mud-slinging.

    And LC, please have the courage to note that the parroting of talking points is not unique to those on the right of these issues. You attempt to be specific in your evaluation of things, it’s true…but your sacred “links” are from such biased sources, well you get the idea.

    And Bob Burr. No thanks.

  19. Sumner401 says:

    You attempt to be specific in your evaluation of things, it’s true…but your sacred “links” are from such biased sources, well you get the idea.

    The hypocrisy.
    Hits you right in the face doesn’t it?

  20. george14017 says:

    As we knew would happen, the conservatives now have the black man to blame for the destruction caused by 8 years of destruction of the world economy and deaths resulting from the illegal invasion of Iraq. Bush and Cheney tried their best to destroy the ability of government to finance any improvement to the general health and welfare of America and place that wealth in the hands of a select few, but they now want to blame Obama. What else?

  21. AreYouHighOrWhat says:

    Sumner401 says:

    “Not sure where the universal health care came from as that was never one of President Obamas goals.
    But like all far right wingers, the truth doesn’t matter to roncella, never has”

    Obama promised Health Care Reform, EVERYBODY KNOWS IT, and it was one of the big negotiating points to get Hillary to support him after the he got the DNC nomination.

    It’s people like Sumner 401 that distort the truth, insult their opposition, and assume the only ones against them are “right wingers”. See all her other postings for proof. Shame on her for making good democrats look bad, and making the republicans look reasonable.

  22. stetsonwalker says:

    george14017,
    I do not know what your problem is with the presidents heritage, but we would all appreciate it if you kept your racist comments to your self.

  23. stetsonwalker says:

    And why is it when a liberal says something you are to accept it as fact but when you point out that in reality their fact is wrong? As an example the real facts of the auto bailout that didn’t work or a public vote on healthcare. The lib spin is the vote meant nothing and that it is a “talking” point. No they are not talking points they are real facts!

  24. Sumner401 says:

    As far as health care, have you not paid any attention to the latest (Missouri) vote?

    Have you paid attention to how meaningless that vote really is?
    All you are doing is parroting the fox noise daily propaganda.
    No need to tune in, you far righties will parrot today message for us all and try to pass it off as your own.
    The t-baggers (you picked the name, don’t blame me) lost huge yesterday, across the board and that is how it will go down in Nov.

  25. Sumner401 says:

    As an example the real facts of the auto bailout that didn’t work

    How do you figure that? GM, and Chrysler were about to fold, today they are showing a profit for the first time since 2004 and have paid back 2/3rds of the loans.
    Sounds like a huge success to me.
    Explain how it “didn’t work”.

  26. Sumner401 says:

    Obama promised Health Care Reform, EVERYBODY KNOWS IT

    And he delivered it. But roncella made the comment in his talking points fox news fed letter that he promised, and I quote, “Universal health care”, which is simply not the truth.
    My statement stands and remains the truth, the right shys away from the truth whenever it can.

  27. Sumner401 says:

    but we would all appreciate it if you kept your racist comments to your self.

    He made no racist comments.

  28. dewilson says:

    We can all debate the relative success of President Obama on any given issue, but the bottom line is that any level of accomplishment by him is exceptional given the vicious, even venal, obstructionism of the Republicans, led by the nose by Rush Limbaugh and coerced into extremism by the Tea Partiers. Limbaugh and even some Republicans have candidly said they want President Obama to fail. This, even if it means that America suffers dearly in the process.

    We are dealing with the tyranny of the minority who will stoop to any level to deny the President any kind of ‘victory’ because to them it’s a zero-sum game. If the President ‘wins’, they lose. The American public, be darned. Hence we get a record number of filibusters, secret holds on appointees, racial slurs, labels (e.g., socialist, communist), and slander (courtesy Andrew Breitbart and Fox News). It is truly a disgrace to our democratic process and a gross disservice to the American people.

  29. hansgruber says:

    Yes Sumner 401, we have been over this several times. My facts are good numbers backed up with the stats, you on the other hand just keep repeating
    ‘most all of the debt, 75% of it is because of you conservatives”

    So, please explain that the last $4.631 Trillion added to the National Debt since Jan 2007 under the Dem controlled congress is the conservatives fault?

  30. hansgruber says:

    Congress is the body that votes on the budget. in past 30 years, $12.4 Trillion of the $13.301 Trillion of the National Debt has been racked up. In the past 30 years, Congress has been controlled in both houses by the Dem 67% of the time.

    The only 3 years in the past 30 that there was a balanced federal annual budget was under a GOP Controlled Congress holding President Clinton to not spending more than what came in. Not Clinton but a GOP controlled congress.

  31. Sumner401 says:

    So, please explain that the last $4.631 Trillion added to the National Debt since Jan 2007 under the Dem controlled congress is the conservatives fault?

    I already have several times Hans, but just for you since I know you neoconservabaggers need things repeated over and over and over by every approved media talking head you’ve got, here it is again.

    A very large percentage of that ‘debt’ is in fact the cost of the two wars bush the failure started and did not put ‘on the books’ so as to keep you fat dumb and happy.
    Another chunk of it is the bush TARP hand outs, much of which is being paid back, as well as another large chunk the very successful auto loans.
    The failed tax cuts.
    Add to that the necessary stimulus funding to keep at least a small portion of the economy moving after the conservatives destroyed it and you have your answer.
    So you see hans, you and your party have in fact caused over 75% of the debt, I’m just being generous towards you by using the rounded off figure of 75%. It’s more like 80 some odd, but who is going to quibble?

    You can whine and cry all you want about the Democrats controlling Congress but you know as well as anyone that the President sets the policy and asks for and approves the budget. The spending by the right FAR out strips any spending by the Democrats.
    The drug bill, unpaid for
    2 wars, unpaid for
    Worthless tax cuts for the top 2%, unpaid for and accounts for a HUGE amount of the debt.

    Just how long of a list do you need Hans before you see the light, through the fog of deceit and lies put out by your media controllers?

  32. hansgruber says:

    Sumner 401 sounds like your opinion, not factual numbers.

    President sends his recommended budget to Congress, Congress modifies it, send it to the President who vetos it, sending back to congress who can override a veto or the President either signs it or not and become law.

    Funny how the Dem Congress increased spending for the two wars while bad mouthing it and you want to blame that on the GOP?

    Sumner 401, once again you are not giving the Dem their fair share in the blame.

  33. I’m still trying to get over the shock that this man is the President of the United States. Who are the fools that voted for this guy? “Change you can believe in”? What a joke!!

  34. Oh yeah, don’t forget the “First Lady” is in Spain renting 60 rooms at $2500.00 a piece for her 40+ friends (at taxpayer expense), and flew over there on Air Force 2. While the president is having dinner with Ophra and gossiping with the hags on the View. They say there’s a fool born every minute, but they forgot to add that they are liberals.

  35. About conservatives finally have a black man to blame…as one commentator put it recently…”I don’t like President Obama’s white half any more than I like his black half.”

    And dewilson, as has been explained before, any wish for Obama to fail has been aimed at where he wants to take this country over the long haul.

    Frankly, it makes me sad that our first president with African American roots (a victory I personally wanted to celebrate) is a man whose policies and practices I cannot embrace.

  36. Sumner401 says:

    Sumner 401, once again you are not giving the Dem their fair share in the blame.

    I’m giving them the blame that they deserve, and by rights that isn’t very much.
    When are you going to give the republicans the blame they deserve?

    Do you not agree that most if not all of our debt is the direct result of republican spending bills and wars and tax cuts?

    I noticed you have never mentioned a single thing the evil scary ‘dems’ have done to prove your opinion. You’re really good at spinning and parroting the spoon fed talking points about who controls the spending, blah blah blah but you’re very short on facts.
    Can’t refute any of the huge spending by the republicans but somehow it’s still the Democrats fault?
    That’s a hard sell hans, even for brain washed right wingers.

    Now, how you grow up and face the facts, the republicans are the cause of over 75% of our debt.
    This is the third or fourth time we’ve gone over it and you have yet to disprove it.
    You need to just admit to it and then work to correct it.
    How about you do that hans, do it for your country, it needs your help.

  37. dewilson says:

    Sozo,
    I have no problem with reasoned opposition to President Obama; there should always be a robust debate about what government should do and should not do, and I want to be part of it along with you.

    My objection is that the majority of voters are supportive of President Obama and his proposals and it is a vicious and malicious minority that is obstructing any progress. My objection is the venality of their approach and also the motivation – it is not to find the best way to serve America’s interests; it is a purely politically motivated effort to make Obama fail so the Republicans can regain power at any cost, and the cost will be paid by all Americans (except the Republican elite) including the majority who voted for a change from the Bush/Cheney era.

  38. dewilson says:

    Actually, FreeAmerica, Sumner is doing a fine job of debating the issues, offering up statistics and reasoned arguments and in fact, exhibits a good knowledge of the subject. I would say Sumner is doing a fine job of bringing credit to the liberal left.

    If your bent is the right, then why not offer up some facts and logic in rebuttal, rather than just tossing out snarkly insults?

  39. Sumner401 says:

    Thanks dewilson, but when dealing with freeamerica, you will soon realize he has no facts or logic, only personal attacks. Which of course is typical.
    He hates me because I have bested him many times now, and to tell the truth it took no effort on my part.

  40. It would seem the majority of Americans are losing faith in the president. Am I to presume you think this is all due to right-wing propaganda? And before you answer that, consider the possibility that all the support he got during the campaign was largely a result of a the MSM’s infatuation with him and their refusal to thoroughly vet him. At least in my opinion.

  41. Sorry, that last post of mine was directed at dewilson.

  42. Sumner401 says:

    the “First Lady” is in Spain renting 60 rooms at $2500.00 a piece for her 40+ friends (at taxpayer expense)

    It’s not at tax payer expense, she is paying the tab.
    Stop spreading the fox news lies.

  43. Sumner401 says:

    It would seem the majority of Americans are losing faith in the president.

    You are basing that on what?
    Your opinion or your spoon fed opinion?

  44. Gallup…41% approval rating

  45. Sumner401 says:

    I see, one cherry picked poll.
    Like I said, spoon fed right wing media opinion.
    Don’t you ever get tired of it sozo?

  46. hansgruber says:

    “Do you not agree that most if not all of our debt is the direct result of republican spending bills and wars and tax cuts?”

    I do not agree.

  47. Sumner401 says:

    I noticed hans has once again ran from the truth. This will come up again and like this time he will offer up the the same talking points, the same attacks and when proven wrong, again, he will run and hide.

  48. hansgruber says:

    Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    Approve 44.9 Disapprove 50.1
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2010/jan/20/barack-obama-approval-ratings

    Current President Barack Obama
    Polling group’s most recent poll for President Barack Obama:
    Polling Group (Reverse Chronologically) Date Approval Disapproval Other
    Rasmussen Reports[2][3] August 1-2, 2010 45% 54% 1%
    Gallup[4][5] July 29-31, 2010 44% 47% 9%
    Ipsos/McClatchy[6] July 22-25, 2010 48% 48% 4%
    CNN/Opinion Research[6] July 16-21, 2010 47% 50% 3%
    Quinnipiac University[7] July 13-19, 2010 44% 48% 8%
    FOX News/Opinion Dynamics[6] July 13-14, 2010 43% 48% 9%
    TIME[6] July 12-13, 2010 49% 44% 7%
    CBS News/New York Times[6] July 9-12, 2010 44% 44% 12%
    ABC News/Washington Post[6][8] July 7-11, 2010 50% 47% 3%
    Newsweek[6] June 23-24, 2010 48% 46% 6%
    Marist College[6] June 17-24, 2010 44% 45% 11%
    NBC/Wall Street Journal[6][9] June 17-21, 2010 45% 48% 7%
    USA Today[11][6] June 11-13, 2010 47% 49% 4%

    Hummmmmmm seems sozo is on to something Sumner401

  49. hansgruber says:

    Sumner401 once has claimed victory based on opinion, not facts. I do not need to “run from he truth”, I stated my facts and they are true, you my friend are blaming the spending & borrowing spree in massive record numbers on a party that has not had control of the purse strings for 42 months.

    Might I remind you:
    WASHINGTON — Christina Romer, one of President Barack Obama’s most pivotal economic advisers, is quitting her position, a change that comes as the White House fights to show signs of clear economic gains to a hurting nation
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38585611/ns/politics/

    Then in England they are reporting:
    US job losses are double expected figure• American employers shed 131,000 jobs in July
    At the same time, June’s overall drop was revised to a far steeper 221,000 from 125,000.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/aug/06/us-jobs-fall-double-expected

    Want more truth? Facts?

  50. hansgruber says:

    I noticed Sumner401 has once again ran from the truth. This will come up again and like this time he will offer up the the same talking points, the same attacks and when proven wrong, again, he again will repeat his opinion based on his opinion and no facts.

    ““If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

  51. FreeAmerica says:

    Sumner401 says:
    August 5, 2010 at 10:00 am
    As an example the real facts of the auto bailout that didn’t work

    How do you figure that? GM, and Chrysler were about to fold, today they are showing a profit for the first time since 2004 and have paid back 2/3rds of the loans.
    Sounds like a huge success to me.
    Explain how it “didn’t work”.

    FA:
    Sumner
    GM paid back 2/3rds of the loans?? 49.5 Billion Bailout… 7 billion loan and shareholders left holding an empty bag…sweet deal especially when the loan was paid back with another loan from us.

  52. FreeAmerica says:

    dewilson says:
    August 5, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    Actually, FreeAmerica, Sumner is doing a fine job of debating the issues, offering up statistics and reasoned arguments and in fact, exhibits a good knowledge of the subject. I would say Sumner is doing a fine job of bringing credit to the liberal left

    FA:
    Knowledge of subject while debating is imperative… talking points lacking factual basis are garbage….The old saying, Garbage in Garbage out.
    You must be on another planet to think she is debating with fact.
    Credit to the left? yep…doing a fine job

  53. LuckyCharm says:

    Polls prove nothing except perhaps that Obama’s holding onto the middle. Those on the right who think he’s moving too quickly, as well as those on the left who are disappointed that he’s moving so slowly, are all likely to be lumped in with the “disapprove” crowd. A more accurate poll would reflect the REASONS for people’s approval/disapproval.

    Oh, and I heard a report on the radio this morning that the job numbers are deceiving because they don’t reflect the longer shifts that are being offered to workers, and the wage increases. Makes sense to me — why hire new people at this stage when you can just give the ones you have more hours? I’ll have to look for the source on that….

  54. Sumner401 says:

    Want more truth? Facts?

    Hans you have yet to prove any of your points.
    Not a single one.
    You have given lots of links to unrelated things, a person quitting their job is proof of what? Proof that you read the front page of drudge and think it means something?

    Come on hans, you are making the claim that the evil scary Democrats are responsible for the debt, yet you can’t come up with a single reason, valid reason for that opinion.
    I counted your statement with verifiable facts pointing out many many huge republican spending bills that in FACT are responsible for the debt and the deficit and you give me today drudge headlines?

    Hans, seriously when you’ve lost the argument it’s better to man up and just admit it.
    Either that or at least try and back up your position, spouting off nonsense isn’t doing it.

  55. Sumner401 says:

    If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

    The very essence of the republican party and the propaganda networks it has built.
    And it was posted by one of their fervent ‘believers’.

  56. Sumner401 says:

    Hummmmmmm seems sozo is on to something Sumner401

    Not really, no.

  57. hansgruber says:

    “Hans you have yet to prove any of your points.
    Not a single one.”

    Really?
    352,000 jobs lost in June & July?
    Looks like that stimulus is really working but I know that some how Sumner401 will be able to factually prove this is Bush’s & the GOP fault! Come on now show everyone how borrowing and spending $862 Billion since Feb of last year has save these 352,000 jobs?

    It’s not like one person quite their job.

    Here is the link on the job loss, notice this is newspaper in England reporting this because the US press does want to:
    US job losses are double expected figure• American firms shed 131,000 jobs in July. June’s drop was also revised to a far steeper 221,000 from 125,000.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/aug/06/us-job-losses-double-expected

  58. Sumner401 says:

    Come on hans, you’re not even trying.
    Suddenly job numbers in the middle of the republican caused recession is ‘proof’ the Democrats spend more?
    What’s next with you, the price of rice in China?

    Hans, I know you need to deflect and change the topic here, I can’t blame you since you clearly can’t defend your stand, but seriously, at least try to stay within the topic.
    That topic is, 75% or more of our current debt is the result of republican spending.

    We’ve been over it and you have done the same duck and run, change topic, deflect! routine every time.
    Someone quitting their job or the latest job numbers being reported from the UK is no way to back up your point.

    The republicans out spend the Democrat 5 to 1.
    The drug bill
    The worthless tax cuts
    2 wars
    TARP
    All unpaid for and ALL republican spending, which brought us to where we are today.

    Deny that with facts Hans I dare you.

  59. hansgruber says:
    “Then in England they are reporting:
    US job losses are double expected figure• American employers shed 131,000 jobs in July
    At the same time, June’s overall drop was revised to a far steeper 221,000 from 125,000.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/aug/06/us-jobs-fall-double-expected Want more truth? Facts?”

    Yes hansgruber, we want facts and truth, not the garbage you search for the world for until you find some that align with your biased opinions. First of all, for years now, your heroes have been paying our employers through tax incentives to move overseas so how do you expect there to be jobs? In view of that, expect the job recovery from the Bush recession to be muted.

    Secondly, you said the U.S. press doesn’t want to report our job losses, but surely you wouldn’t include Fox news in that, would you? Fox business reports that employers added 42,000 jobs, and the Labor Department reported that nonfarm payrolls expanded by 71,000 in July and the unemployment rate remained at 9.5%.

    Tell your heroes to bring those jobs back they shipped overseas.

  60. iamjimbo says:

    “It’s not at tax payer expense, she is paying the tab.”

    Yea… it’s from the “Obama stash”… LOL.

  61. Sumner401 says:

    The tax payers are not paying for the vacation, period. To say otherwise is to repeat the GOP propaganda lies.

  62. hansgruber says:

    Between Sumner401 & Cirrus they have the saved America! By ignoring the truth and believing the party line.

    Funny you mention TARP as not funded. If not, then how did the money get disbursed? How come the following banks paid back their loans in full?
    Bank of America $45 Billion
    JP Morgan $25 Billion
    Well Fargo $25 Billion
    Goldman Sachs $10 Billion
    Morgan Stanley $10 Billion
    PNC $7.579 Billion
    Capitol One $3.555 Billion
    US Bankcorp $6.6 Billion
    American Express $3.389 Billion
    Bank of NY/Mellon $3 Billion
    State Street $3 Billion
    Discover $1.23 Billion

    Lets see who hasn’t paid it back:
    AIG $40 Billion
    General Motors still owes $5.3 Billion (Borrowed $13.4 Billion)
    Citibank $95 Billion
    GMAC $5 Billion
    Chrysler $5 Billion (Not to mention the $7 Billion loan that was forgiven by President Obama..more on that one)
    And Regions Financial Corp $3.5 Billion

    Less than half the of TARP money was ever dispursed.under Bush ($300 Billion leaving $400 Billion to the incoming Obama Admin)) But on March 29, 2009 Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told me ( George Stephanopoulos) this morning on “This Week” that his department has roughly $135 billion in uncommitted money left over in the TARP plan.

    I suppose Sumner401 & cirrus will claim the GOP stole it from Obama..right boys?

  63. In the July employment numbers there was a gain of 71,000 private sector Because of the loss of 143,000 temporary census workers and the loss of 50,000 jobs from state and local governments due to downsizing there was a net loss. So actually, instead of whining about job losses, conservatives should be smiling, as they watch government downsize.

    We are still a year away from a time when we should expect large job increases if history is any indicator of a jobs recovery after a recession, especially this recession.

  64. The GOP stole that money from Obama

  65. iamjimbo says:

    You mean “Oama’s stash” ??? cirrus…

  66. LuckyCharm says:

    From the BLS report released today:

    The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was essentially unchanged over the month at 8.5 million but has declined by 623,000 since April. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job. (This is what I meant about people getting more hours, going from part-time to full-time, rather than brand-new jobs being created.)

    Total nonfarm payroll employment decreased by 131,000 in July, reflecting the departure of 143,000 temporary Census 2010 workers from federal government payrolls. Total private employment edged up over the month (+71,000). Thus far this year, private sector employment has increased by 630,000, with about two-thirds of the gain occurring in March and April.

    Employment in both state and local governments edged down over the month. (Righties should be cheering!)

    In July, the average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls increased by 0.1 hour to 34.2 hours.

    Average hourly earnings of all employees on private nonfarm payrolls increased by 4 cents, or 0.2 percent, to $22.59 in July. Over the past 12 months, average hourly earnings have increased by 1.8 percent. In July, average hourly earnings of private-sector production and nonsupervisory employees increased by 2 cents, or 0.1 percent, to $19.04.

  67. Roncella says:

    Hans, Try as you have to bring facts and common sense to the discussion, the Liberals/Progressives who post here cannot comprehend what your saying.

    Their reasoning process in some cases are plain defective. They have consumed way too much Liberal/Obama/Pelosi/Reid cool aid.

    They like much of the Main/Laim stream media will defend the Democrats/Obama no matter how many mistakes or lack of intelligence they continue to display.

  68. Sumner401 says:

    Hans, Try as you have to bring facts and common sense to the discussion, the Liberals/Progressives who post here cannot comprehend what your saying.

    LOL!!
    Well there you go hans, you’ve been blessed by the all knowing all seeing roncella (choir singing in the back ground)!

    Never mind that you haven’t provided anything at all to back up your stand and you have done nothing at all to refute my points of fact, no sir it’s all OK because you puked up the daily drudge talking points.
    I mean how can anyone question you bringing in to the discussion that someone in the administration quit their job!?
    It’s scathing!
    Nope, you have been blessed by the KING of nonsense talking points and buddy that makes everything A-OK.

  69. iamjimbo says:

    …”lions share of the federal debt.”

    Basic rule of internet rhetoric…
    you make the assertion – you provide the supporting evidence. It is taken as a sign that you don’t really have anything to back up your claims if you come back with a variation on “do your own research” or “it’s self-evident”.

    …..”the buck stops here” definitely is not a slogan B.O. is living up to.

  70. Sumner401 says:

    you make the assertion – you provide the supporting evidence.

    How many more times do you need it?

    TARP
    Drug bill (over 1 trillion)
    Failed tax cuts for the rich (over 1 trillion and set to add 800 billion more next year)
    2 wars (3 trillion and counting, this will continue for the next 60 years)

    You need more?
    It’s been more than proven, and personal integrity, assuming you all have any, mandates admitting when you’re wrong.
    You going to go first troll or are you going to wait for hans and roncella to man up while we lace up our ice skates in hell?

  71. FreeAmerica says:

    Sumner…
    your figures represent 5 (unproven) trillion of a 13 trillion debt…far cry from 75%

  72. FreeAmerica says:

    Sumner

    Bush TARP fund 89 billion.post repayment…..far cry from “(over 1 trillion)”
    as you suggested Sumner….

    Do you really believe your lies?

    Bush’s drug plan revised by the CBO @ $534 billion

    Iraq and Afgnstn war… http://www.costofwar.com/ no where close to 3 trillion as you stated

  73. Sumner401 says:

    Still waiting for an adult to show up and refute anything I’ve said.

    75% of our (far less than 13 trillion) debt is due to republican spending.
    It’s a proven fact.

  74. Roncella says:

    Sumner, Time to get your head out from under all that sand, so your brain can function properly.

    FreeAmerica is correct and you still don’t comprehend what he has said ???

    Wait, I think I can hear the Choir starting to sing ” God Bless America” in the background. Can you hear it Sumner ???

  75. Sumner401 says:

    FreeAmerica is correct and you still don’t comprehend what he has said ???

    No roncella he isn’t correct, proclaiming yourself correct isn’t going to cut it in the real world.
    I know as long as it tows the party line you swallow it, we get that, but reality and truth are far different from the party line.
    Maybe it’s you that is having the ‘comprehension’ problem.
    Stop parroting the far right line roncella, join us in the real world.

    I’ve made my point, squawking talking points and calling me names doesn’t make yours.
    If you’ve got some facts, present them, if not admit you’re wrong and that you party is responsible for over 75% of our current debt, which it is.
    Conservatism is what is wrong with the country, period.

  76. iamjimbo says:

    I hadn’t noticed ronc calling you names, but sure do see you calling alot of people names…

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