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BOYCOTT: Arizona deserves thanks, not criticism

Letter by Knute Hammer, Kent on May 17, 2010 at 2:48 pm with 41 Comments »
May 17, 2010 2:48 pm

Why would the City of Tacoma want to boycott Arizona for standing up for the rights of citizens of this country?

What is wrong with enforcing existing federal laws that are being ignored? A country is not a country unless it has borders. For all intents and purposes, we no longer have borders. Illegal immigration is costing us billions of dollars. Arizona, on the other hand, saved millions when it passed the first law requiring employers and landlords to screen all new employees and tenants to ensure they are U.S. citizens or legal aliens. This law was passed in spite of the concerns about who would take those jobs created by the vacuum. As a result of this law, more taxes were collected and welfare expenses reduced.

Recently I’ve noticed the mainstream media is using the term “immigrants” when they should be using term “illegal aliens.” Immigrants are people who enter this country legally with the correct paperwork. My wife was an immigrant and had to work very hard to get her U.S. citizenship. It wasn’t given to her just because she crossed the border Illegally and lived here for a certain number of years.

Racial profiling is an excuse being used to legalize illegal aliens in this country. I agree that racial profiling is a concern, but that can be dealt with on the merits of each case. Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water.

Leave a comment Comments → 41
  1. Knute, It took a miracle to keep DaVita in Tacoma; meanwhile Frank Russell is leaving. I think the city council should worry more about the economic boycott of Tacoma than Arizona’s illegal immigrant problems.

  2. MJWalker says:

    I can’t wait to move from this narrow minded state to Arizona, were FREEDOM STANDS.

  3. At first I was delighted to know that libs were all boycotting Arizona creating yet another reason to vacation and live there, but then I remembered that libs lie and are hypocrits. Just like the global warming believers who still drive cars and fly on planes. It is therefore reasonable to think that if Arizona sticks with enforcing the law it will become a better place to live. Libs enjoy living very well but can’t stand it when others do and will therefore move to Arizona, #1 to live well, and #2 to bring “change” for everyone else………

  4. Good call on the language issue, Mr. H. The same politicians who try to convince us that it’s all just “words, words, words” as if words don’t matter, have made a lot of headway in the last 20 years by manipulating language. It’s what the PC movement is made of, and it’s caused people to fall silent when they should speak of.

    I know many immigrants who have gone through the hard work of legally living and working in the U.S.. The situation on our southern border makes a mockery of them.

  5. ktcmairman says:

    I make every effort not to spend 1 penny in the Cities of Tacoma or Seattle.

  6. Words have meaning. As the letter writer suggests, the sheep who work in the mainstream media like to twist the meaning of words to suit their socialist agenda. They have been successful in twisting the brains of the more gullible among us, but people who can use reason and independent thought are not fooled by their lies and distortions.

  7. As a former lifelong Tacoman, visiting last week for a few days, I read that the Tacoma City Council has now ordained itself as an overseer of other States laws. As I drove through downtown Tacoma that evening, I noted empty storefronts, vacant lots, and had dinner at one of the most noted local restaurants, which was two thirds empty. This could lead one to think that perhaps the Tacoma Council should pay a little more attention to its own CBD.

    Now being an Arizona resident, I have visited the Douglas area where a family rancher was recently murdered by a suspected illegal alien, and witnessed the manhunt just off of I-8 where a Sheriff deputy was shot and wounded by drug running illegal aliens last month. This is real time and its happening in America. Arizona is also now faced with the call to raise taxes to make up for budget shortfalls caused in part by the unfunded illegal alien drains on our services.

    The Tacoma City Council has a lot to learn about Arizona and maybe should spend more time attending to the home front. Perhaps the Council should boycott Seattle for taking away the Russell group? After all, if Tacoma had not lost Russell, it might have had more full storefronts, less vacant lots, and more diners in the restaurant the night I was there.

  8. Novelist3 says:

    If the Trib hadn’t oddly changed the entire formatting of the Letters To The Editor section, I would “Recommend” your post. Well said!

  9. Attn TNT:
    I rarely visit this site anymore, after the format change. I think if you took a vote from the regulars at this site it’d show we want the old format back.
    Change is not always good.

  10. timeaftertime says:

    Boycott, Boycott, Boycott!

  11. beerBoy says:

    Calling someone an “immigrant” does not specify legality.

  12. rabberr, thanks for your observations. I’ve said it before numerous times, in the grand scheme of things, the Tacoma City Council are little league players as compared to other cities of the same size. It’s been on a downward spiral for years thanks in part to the lack of quality leadership from local government. They’ve let political correctness take over. I just keep hoping to see the day when Tacoma finally decides to stop being a mini Seattle.

  13. Volks253 says:

    I fully support the city in their efforts to send the message that we citizens of Tacoma do not support racism!
    To those that say they want to move to the racist state of AZ, I say don’t let the door hit you in the behind on your way out.
    You and your kind will not be missed.
    Now please, do as you say for once in your lives and get out of my city, my state and never return.

  14. the3rdpigshouse says:

    Illegal immigration is a violation of existing laws – period!! Profiling is something practiced every day in America and is one method of finding those who have violated the law.

    Witnesses who see a white man committing a robbery of the local pizza parlor do not put out a call for an armed black male, witnesses who see a black female in a red truck leaving the scene of a hit & run do not put out a call looking for a white female driver! Do you see alot of any race other than latinos illegally crossing the southern border of the U.S.?? I don’t believe I would be putting out a call to be looking for white or black or asians illegally entering the U.S. through Arizona’s desert!!

    Wake up liberals and become part of the real world environment!!!

  15. mikemcdonnell says:

    Arizona joined the Confederacy in the Civil War — was against the Union and President Lincoln.

    Arizona did not want a holiday for Martin Luther King.

    Arizona is for (white) Lovers.

  16. loz says:
    May 18, 2010 at 4:50 am

    Change is not always good.

    The biggest understatement of the last year and a half…

  17. Volks253 says:

    Why do the racists always go to the personal attacks?
    Nothing of merit to stand on?

  18. howellheinrick says:

    No one supports illegal immigration. The problem is a legal one. The Federal government is the sole authority in maintaining our borders. They have failed and AZ has taken the stance, albeit, unconstitutional stance, to use local law enforcement to seek out illegals. Why are we not talking about Federal Immigration Reform instead of arguing about the state law? George W, tried to pass reform, with McCain’s support, remember? The GOP was in control of the house, the senate and the white house and they could not pass reform. Instead of using name calling, and arguing mute points, get on with the real reform debate. Do we throw out all illegals? Do you want to pay for more border patrols? Do you want your taxes increased to do that? You scream about the illegals but don’t want to discuss real solutions. The council overreached, they are just fueling the nonsense, but so too are most of these posters.

  19. mikemcdonnell, Arizona didn’t become a state until Feb 14, 1912, let’s see now… when was the civil war? Arizona at the time was a part of the New Mexico Territory, they along with Southern California had a lot of southern sympathizers, but it is historically inaccurate to say that Arizona, as a state, was part of the confederacy. You let the cat out of the bag with your typical “hate whitey” rhetoric, just another numb headed liberal.

  20. donjames says:

    frosty, while your version of history is certainly more accurate than that of the poor fact- challenged product of our fine public school going by the moniker of mikemcdonnell, I hope you will forgive a few corrections (mostly aimed at the unenlightened mr mcdonnell)

    The territory of Arizona, as well as the Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) were claimed by the Confederate States in 1861 – there was no “joining.”

    The Confederate Territory of Arizona encompassed all the land south of the 34th parallel from Texas to the Colorado River and was comprised of the modern day southern halves of Arizona and New Mexico (you know, liberal New Mexico).

    Geez mike, do some research before you pop-off here with some spew you likely read at the huffpo.

  21. donjames, I gratefully accept the correction. Thanks

  22. Volks253 says:

    It was the 36th parallel and 30 mins.

    “36-30 or fight”
    Missouri compromise, any of that ring a bell?

    Doing some research might do you some good as well.

  23. volks253, why do liberals always use the race card? Nothing of merit to stand on?

  24. monmornQB says:

    What deserves criticism is how easy it is for so called patriotic Americans to abandon to protections of the Constitution when it comes to matters of tyranny. Why do people that masquerade as conservatives take such a liberal interpretation of the Constitution to expand the authoritative reach of government agencies?

    “where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person.”

    This vague wording is the problem.
    Do you people that seem to hate civil liberties so much realize that those liberties are what make American’s free?
    “the commissar would like to see your papers comrade”.

  25. Shame on you bBoy. I KNOW you are bright enough to grasp the subtle but significant impact of using the term “immigrant” to avoid using “illegal” alien.” You see, it’s the SUBTLE manipulation of language that does the most damage. You do get that right?

    Turning this into a racist act is puerile and petty. For all the grown ups reading this: Are there racists in AZ …and WA and CO and even (gasp!) Seattle? Of course there are.

    Are there lazy robotic PC droids who follow Al Sharpton in his ambulance-chase to every scene where he can hear himself talk and presume and prattle on about racism where there is none. Of course there are.

    Finally, Tacoma critiquing any other city or state is utterly embarrassing. It’s like watching an episode of “The Office.”

  26. LuckyCharm says:

    “What is wrong with enforcing existing federal laws that are being ignored?”

    There is nothing wrong with enforcing existing federal laws — the problem is that no federal law exists requiring ALL citizens (not just immigrants) to carry proof of citizenship on their person at all times. So AZ is not enforcing any “existing” law. It is, however, violating the Constitution if it wrongfully puts even one legal resident in custody. And some of us still care about our civil liberties.

  27. sozo – you are correct that the word “illegal” should be appended to the word “immigrant” for full disclosure however, the word “immigrant” by itself is not inaccurate or dishonest.

    “Shame on you”….c’mon on now….getting a little overheated here…nothing shameful in insisting upon accuracy over hysterics.

  28. Interesting, donjames, how differently you treated the two mistaken historians.

    The Conservative was treated in a politically correct (civil/respectful) tone, and the one you disagreed with was summarily trashed.

    Biased much?

  29. … I’ll bet DJ won’t deny being biased… since you bring it up, what about you P?

  30. Volks253 says:

    Of course donjames is biased, like all righties he doesn’t like being proven wrong, even though it happens every hour on the hour.

    I noticed he also made ASSumptions in his attack in order to further his nonsense.

  31. donjames says:

    P, I have little patience with revisionists – conservative or liberal. If the fairy tale mike was spinning had been anywhere near as factual as the correction that frosty posted, I would not have paid any attention to either.

    And revisionist history should be trashed since trash is exactly what it usually is.


  32. LuckyCharm says:

    raberr, boycotting is not “overseeing” — it is simply voting with your pocketbook, something all patriots can and should do.

    It’s interesting how conservatives pretend to stand against illegal immigration, and accuse liberals of supporting it, when in fact the opposite is true. On pages 265-266 of his book, The Audacity of Hope, Obama tells of an immigration reform bill into which he introduced language specifying that before companies could hire foreign guest workers they had to prove that no American citizens were available to do the job, and those workers had to be paid the same wages as American workers. The idea was to remove the incentive to prefer guest workers to actual citizens. In the book he tells of a Republican who falsely claimed that the provision would require foreign workers to be paid more than Americans. Obama caught up with him on a break to correct his impression. The Republican said that small businesses would still continue to hire illegals. When Obama asked why, since their financial incentive would be removed, the guy just smiled and said, “Cause let’s face it, Barack. These Mexicans are just willing to work harder than Americans do.”

    You can read it for yourself at the link. And then contact your favorite rightie lawmaker, pundit, whomever, and ask why they don’t sponsor, co-sponsor, and support legislation like this. They won’t, because they want the cheap labor while they’re whipping you into a frenzy about how the illegals are ruining your life. Oh, and while you’re at it, you might ask why they don’t support taxing marijuana, which would eliminate 90% of the drug trade and give state budgets a much-needed shot in the arm.

  33. There are some here who feel that they have the right to belittle those, whose opinions they disagree. It’s not enough to simply disagree with the opinion,they feel it necessary to attack their opponent’s character.

    Once that line is crossed the discussion is pointless. They may as well be commenting on poor spelling or punctuation. It doesn’t matter.

    Did trashing that person enhance your position, donjames? I think not. It simply gave you a false sense of superiority.

  34. donjames says:

    Opinions? I disagreed with factual misrepresentations made by mike and volks. And perhaps you have ignored.. er, missed their respective tones too, Polago.

    Biased much?

    Heres a little refresher (exclusively from this thread):

    mikemcdonnell says: “Arizona is for (white) Lovers.”

    Volks253 says: “To those that say they want to move to the racist state of AZ, I say don’t let the door hit you in the behind on your way out.
    You and your kind will not be missed.
    Now please, do as you say for once in your lives and get out of my city, my state and never return.”

    Sorry, P, but if you think the absurdity of such statements is conducive to civil discourse we will never agree. And kindly show where I attacked anyone’s character. On the contrary, if anyone is impugning character here…

    Save the sanctimonious lectures, P, for an instance where I may have trashed a specious argument that truly was not begging for, or deserving of it.

  35. Volks253 says:

    I see that people like donjames can not be reasoned with, best to look at them like they act, like small little children that don’t know any better.

  36. donjames says:

    Geez, P, now look what you’ve done! You’ve gone and lampreyed a troll to me!

  37. What page from his book did “I will stand with the Muslims in case the political winds shift in a ugly direction” come from?

  38. LuckyCharm says:

    jim, that’s actually a misquote, yet widely circulated (no surprise there!) among righties. The actual passage is on pg. 261:

    “Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

    In other words, he was saying he would back up that group if the threat of anything like the Japanese internment camps ever raised its head in a post-9/11 political climate. Pretty courageous, wouldn’t you say?

  39. Pardon me for not bringing attention to mikemcdonnell’s and volks’ inappropriate remarks, donjames. They were out of line.

    My intent was to promote some civility into these discussions and I wanted to use your polite rep with frosty as an example of how we would sound if we treated each other with respect.

    I figured that you would be more receptive and understanding of my intention than someone new, but my remarks were clearly meant for all to take to heart.

    I think that the regulars should set a good example for those who think they can just come in here and be uncivil toward others.

    You and I tend to disagree but we’ve always done so respectfully.

  40. geeterpontiac says:

    Nice letter Mr. Hammer

  41. donjames says:

    New day, new attitude. The hair’s gone down on my back with the rising of the sun and, going forward, thanks to your admonishments, I shall endeavor to confront overt ignorance and leftist dogma (actually the same things) with a dull pencil rather than a sharp tongue. This will be difficult, so I’ll be relying on your council, your always-respectful-if -not-unbiased (well, usually respectful) and soothing prose to inform me when you think I am being unfair – needlessly or otherwise – with your contemporaries.

    Sincerely yours,


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